Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi, > Did you read the draft? The main difference is that since OSPF-GT is >> generalized to be used for non-routing, there is no installation of routes. >> > > Gyan> So The routes would be application use case specific “non > routing” routes for example for BGP-LS it would be the related

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Gyan Mishra
Hi Acee Responses in-line On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:44 AM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Gyan, > > > > *From: *GROW on behalf of Gyan Mishra < > hayabusa...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Monday, July 11, 2022 at 1:41 AM > *To: *Yingzhen Qu > *Cc: *IDR List , "g...@ietf.org g...@ietf.org" < >

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Tianran Zhou
Hi Robert, Thanks for sharing your point. We are actually very open on a new protocol also. We just want to solve real problems. We organized a side meeting in IETF to discuss this. The feedback from that meeting is a preference on reusing BMP.  Best, Tianran

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi, I think BMP is busy enough that loading more on it will be problematic. Sourcing from two protocols just to leverage single transport session seems not best idea. IMO opening a new unicast session directly by the producer of subject data is best way to share/export it. Many thx, R. On

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Tianran Zhou
Hi Robert, Since our work is just follow the BMP which is in GROW in OPS area, we presented this in OPSAWG and GROW. We want to reuse BMP for IGP with some simple extensions. We do not want to create a new protocol only because of the BMP name. Cheers, Tianran

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hello Tianran, Oh I was not aware of such document. Did you ever share it with LSR WG before ? Quick browsing reveals that you have taken a bit different approach .. very IGP centric borrowing IGP encoding at the message level. For example peer state notification I purposely decided not to

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Tianran Zhou
Hi Robert, This is very interesting to me. We had a protocol design for IGP monitoring: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gu-opsawg-network-monitoring-igp-01 It would be a good idea if we can find some common ground. Cheers, Tianran Sent from

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
See one typo. From: GROW on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" Date: Monday, July 11, 2022 at 10:45 AM To: Gyan Mishra , Yingzhen Qu Cc: IDR List , "g...@ietf.org g...@ietf.org" , lsr Subject: Re: [GROW] [Idr] [Lsr] IGP Monitoring Protocol Hi Gyan, From: GROW on behalf of Gyan Mishra Date:

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Gyan, From: GROW on behalf of Gyan Mishra Date: Monday, July 11, 2022 at 1:41 AM To: Yingzhen Qu Cc: IDR List , "g...@ietf.org g...@ietf.org" , lsr Subject: Re: [GROW] [Idr] [Lsr] IGP Monitoring Protocol Hi Yingzhen So with OSPFV2 using RFC 6549 would support multiple instances or

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Tianran, Yes it is, I dedicated entire paragraph in section 1 of the document to highlight that point: The primary inspiration for this work has been based on the success of BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP) [RFC7854] which in a number of aspects shares the same high level requirements

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-11 Thread Tianran Zhou
Hi Robert, I see this name very similar to BMP bgp monitoring protocol. Is this the similar function and scope as BMP? Best, Tianran Sent from WeLink 发件人: Robert Raszukmailto:rob...@raszuk.net>> 收件人: Yingzhen Qumailto:yingzhen.i...@gmail.com>> 抄送:

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-10 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hello Thomas, Many thx for your comments and review. See inline .. On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 7:13 AM wrote: > Dear Robert, > > > > I reviewed draft-raszuk-lsr-imp-00 and have some firsts comments and > suggestions. > > > > First of all, speaking as a network operator who is using BMP to gain >

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-09 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Robert, I reviewed draft-raszuk-lsr-imp-00 and have some firsts comments and suggestions. First of all, speaking as a network operator who is using BMP to gain visibility into the BGP control-plane, seeing the real benefits in operation every day, I was looking very forward at IETF

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] [Idr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-09 Thread Gyan Mishra
During the interim meeting we should keep it open to discuss all possible alternatives to BGP-LS. Thanks Gyan On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 4:45 PM Susan Hares wrote: > Jeff: > > > > An interim sounds like a good plan. > > > > [IDR-chair hat] > > Alvaro has indicated that since all of the proposal