Re: [Lsr] A review of draft-zhu-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-flexalgo-04

2022-05-18 Thread Gyan Mishra
Hi Jie Very welcome! I was actually referring to “SR” Flex Algo not IP Flex Algo comment I made. This is a bit confusing which is why I brought it up. Since the original Flex Algo draft is the base draft for Flex Algo it was termed by the authors “IGP Flex Algo” not “SR Flex Algo” as the base

Re: [Lsr] A review of draft-zhu-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-flexalgo-04

2022-05-18 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
Hi Gyan, Thanks for your review and useful comments. The VTN concept is introduced in VPN+ framework (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn) in TEAS, and its relationship with NRP is described in that document. VTN can be used to support VPN+ service, which provides a

Re: [Lsr] Protection between flex-algo topologies

2022-05-18 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert – Any SPF/CSPF – including that done for FRR – is per topology. Fallback does not give you LFA – and if you tried to calculate a “fallback topology” that would give you LFA I don’t see any advantage over existing FRR techniques. My comment regarding fallback has to do with the

[Lsr] Protection between flex-algo topologies

2022-05-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
/* As this departs from ip-flexalgo topic adjusting the subject line */ Hi Les, I am not so much focusing on fallback just making sure I did not miss any paragraph or draft which already would describe how to provide protection in other then on a per topology basis. Yes, fallbacks are tricky if

Re: [Lsr] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-06

2022-05-18 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert – It isn’t clear to me why you are focused on “fallback” as a solution here. If you are willing to allow traffic that prefers the “Algo-X topology” to use other paths in the event of link/node failures, it seems straightforward – using the new metrics being defined in

Re: [Lsr] A review of draft-zhu-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-flexalgo-04

2022-05-18 Thread Gyan Mishra
Hi John Agreed FAD is restrictive with 128 values. Agreed. Very good point and great idea! Kind Regards Gyan On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:13 AM John E Drake wrote: > Gyan, > > > > I don’t think we want a 1:1 mapping between NRP and FAD because it is a > too restrictive and because it

Re: [Lsr] A review of draft-zhu-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-flexalgo-04

2022-05-18 Thread John E Drake
Gyan, I don't think we want a 1:1 mapping between NRP and FAD because it is a too restrictive and because it unnecessarily burns through FADs. Rather, what I think we want is a set of resource SIDs, one per-NRP that are allocated by each node that is part of a FAD on each of its links that

Re: [Lsr] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-06

2022-05-18 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert. On 18/05/2022 13:18, Robert Raszuk wrote: Peter, This was not my question ... Section 10 of soon to be published RFC clearly states that *"IGP restoration will be fast and additional protection mechanisms will not be required." * We can remove that sentence if you don't like it.

Re: [Lsr] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-06

2022-05-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
Peter, This was not my question ... Section 10 of soon to be published RFC clearly states that *"IGP restoration will be fast and additional protection mechanisms will not be required." * Those "additional mechanisms" are listed further like LFA, FRR with all its flavors which of course can be

Re: [Lsr] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-06

2022-05-18 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 18/05/2022 10:53, Robert Raszuk wrote: Peter, It is not about someone thinking if this is a good idea or not. It is about practical aspects of real deployments. But ok section 10 of the subject draft says something pretty interesting: /10.  Protection    In many networks where

Re: [Lsr] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-06

2022-05-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
Missed it - sorry: s/ control plane CPUs and data plane FIBs / control plane CPUs and data plane FIBs with LFA or R-LFA enabled per topo/ On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 10:53 AM Robert Raszuk wrote: > Peter, > > It is not about someone thinking if this is a good idea or not. It is > about practical

Re: [Lsr] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-06

2022-05-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
Peter, It is not about someone thinking if this is a good idea or not. It is about practical aspects of real deployments. But ok section 10 of the subject draft says something pretty interesting: *10. Protection In many networks where IGP Flexible Algorithms are deployed, IGP

[Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-20.txt

2022-05-18 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Link State Routing WG of the IETF. Title : IGP Flexible Algorithm Authors : Peter Psenak Shraddha Hegde

Re: [Lsr] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-06

2022-05-18 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, I really do not want to get into fallback between algorithms. If someone really thinks it is a good idea, he can write a separate document and describe the use case and how to do that safely. But please not in the base flex-algo specification. thanks, Peter On 17/05/2022 19:58,