Re: [Lsr] NewVersionNotificationfordraft-cheng-ospf-adjacency-suppress-00.txt

2023-03-29 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Acee - I leave it to you and others to work out the optimal OSPF solution. I only want to emphasize that my concern here is about the state of the LSDB on nodes other than the restarting router and its neighbor(s). I think we would like to prevent those routers from ever entering a state where

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv-00

2023-03-29 Thread Christian Hopps
"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" writes: Chris - -Original Message- From: Christian Hopps Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:40 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Cc: Christian Hopps ; Huaimo Chen ; draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv.auth...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Comments on

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv-00

2023-03-29 Thread Peter Psenak
On 29/03/2023 10:29, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: a)Big TLV does not provide what the draft claims it does b)Having two ways to do the same thing is undesirable I can only agree with the above, (b) being the most important. Peter ___ Lsr mailing

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv-00

2023-03-29 Thread Tony Przygienda
for what's it worth I +1 here Les & Tony obviously -- tony On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:30 PM Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > Chris - > > > -Original Message- > > From: Christian Hopps > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:40 PM > > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > > Cc: Christian Hopps ;

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv-00

2023-03-29 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Chris - > -Original Message- > From: Christian Hopps > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:40 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Cc: Christian Hopps ; Huaimo Chen > ; draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv.auth...@ietf.org; > lsr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Lsr] Comments on

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv-00

2023-03-29 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Bruno - I have read your post carefully - but it is still possible that I have misunderstood some of what you have written. If so, please help correct my misunderstandings. Please see my responses inline. > -Original Message- > From: bruno.decra...@orange.com > Sent: Tuesday, March

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv-00

2023-03-29 Thread Christian Hopps
Supporting incremental upgrading routers in a network, with the understanding that only the upgraded routers will take advantage of a new feature -- is normal. In fact, it's what we normally strive for; flag-days are bad. In any case, there's a pivot here from "this doesn't technically work"