Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)

2023-12-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Folks – The term “backwards compatibility” is getting abused here. What does “backwards compatibility” mean in the context of a routing protocol like IS-IS? It means that protocol extensions can be advertised and safely used in the presence of legacy nodes (which do not understand the new

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)

2023-12-04 Thread li_zhenqi...@hotmail.com
Hello All, It seems Big-TLV is backward compatible. Backward compatible is an important point that should be considered when we introduce new features in a protocol, especially the widely used protocols like ISIS, BGP etc. Best Regards, Zhenqiang Li China Mobile li_zhenqi...@hotmail.com

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)

2023-12-04 Thread Christian Hopps
Huaimo Chen writes: [HC]: It seems that the implementation of an idea/solution in a draft is not required by LSR WG for the draft to be adopted, or even for the draft to become RFC. [Chair hat on] It is true that we don't need implementations in order to adopt drafts; however, there

Re: [Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang

2023-12-04 Thread Tony Przygienda
per TLV may not be particularly good in lots of cases 1) some TLVs contain tons stuff which triggers all kind of "does that support this" variants 2) most operators do not know ISIS TLV by heart but RFPs are basically structured along RFCs so that's the resoluton I'm most concerned with

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)

2023-12-04 Thread Huaimo Chen
Hi Les, My responses are inline below with [HC]. Best Regards, Huaimo Linda – When we have polarized positions (for whatever reasons), coming to consensus is often difficult. Each side tends to dismiss the arguments of the other – sometimes regardless of merit. So, maybe the following won’t

Re: [Lsr] [yang-doctors] draft-ietf-isis-sr-yang and draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang

2023-12-04 Thread tom petch
An independant review draft-ississ-sr-yang so top posting. Not Ready is my take for two major issues (was three but I m confused). The I-D defines a raft of identity for the SR flags; it uses different names to those used in the base documents, it gives no explanation why it has done this and