Re: [Lsr] LSR WG Adoption Poll for "IS-IS Topology-Transparent Zone" - draft-chen-isis-ttz-11.txt

2020-08-22 Thread Anil Kumar
Hi All,

As Co-Author, I support working group adoption of this draft as
experimental.

With Regards
Anil S N

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 7:47 PM Acee Lindem (acee)  wrote:

>
>
> Based on the discussions in the last meeting and on the mailing list
> regarding draft-chen-isis-ttz-11, the chairs feel that there are enough
> differences with draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-03 and in the community to
> consider advancing it independently on the experimental track.
>
>
>
> These differences include abstraction at arbitrary boundaries and IS-IS
> extensions for smooth transition to/from zone abstraction.
>
>
>
> We are now starting an LSR WG adoption call for
> draft-chen-isis-ttz-11.txt. Please indicate your support or objection to
> adoption prior to Tuesday, September 2nd, 2020.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Acee and Chris
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Re: [Lsr] LSR WG IPR Poll for "IS-IS Topology-Transparent Zone" - draft-chen-isis-ttz.txt

2020-08-22 Thread Anil Kumar
Hi All,

I am not aware of any undeclared IPR for this document.


With Regards
Anil S N

On Fri, 21 Aug, 2020, 10:02 LEI LIU,  wrote:

> I’m not aware of any IPR associated with this draft.
>
>
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> Thanks,
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Lei
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>
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> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 7:24 AM Acee Lindem (acee)  wrote:
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>> Authors,
>>
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>> The IETF IPRs declarations submitted for draft-chen-isis-ttz are
>> specified here:
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>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/4029/
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>> Are you aware of any other IPR that applies to draft-chen-isis-ttz?
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>> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
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>> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
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>> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond
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>> to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any
>>
>> relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the LSR WG mailing
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>> list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a
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>> response has been received from each author and contributor.
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>> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of
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>> any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Acee
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Re: [Lsr] Request WG adoption of TTZ

2020-07-11 Thread Anil Kumar
 I would support the IS-IS TTZ solution for WG adoption.

With Regards
Anil S N

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 4:38 AM Uma Chunduri  wrote:

>  I would support the IS-IS TTZ solution for WG adoption.
>
>
> Of course, obviously not with OSPF encodings or concepts only relevant to
> OSPF (thx for the updated version).
>
> Thanks for the good work which was started way back on TTZs with OSPF
> protocol first (RFC 8099).
>
>
> I will send my specific comments/suggestions a bit later.
>
> --
>
> Uma C.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:38 PM Huaimo Chen 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris and Acee, and everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to request working group adoption of
>> "Topology-Transparent Zone"
>>
>> (TTZ for short) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-isis-ttz/ .
>>
>>
>> This draft comprises the following solutions for helping to improve
>> scalability:
>>
>> 1) abstracting a zone to a single pseudo node in IS-IS,
>>
>> 2) abstracting a zone to a single pseudo node in OSPF,
>>
>> 3) abstracting a zone to zone edges' full mess in IS-IS, and
>>
>> 4) transferring smoothly between a zone and a single pseudo node..
>>
>> A zone is a block of an area (IS-IS L2 or L1 area, OSPF backbone or
>>
>> non-backbone area).
>>
>>
>>
>> When a network area becomes (too) big, we can reduce its size in the
>> sense
>>
>> of its LSDB size through abstracting a zone to a single pseudo node or
>>
>> abstracting a few zones to a few pseudo nodes.
>>
>>
>>
>> While a zone is being abstracted (or transferred) to a single pseudo
>> node,
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>> the network is stable. There is no or minimum service interruption.
>>
>>
>>
>> After abstracting a few zones to a few pseudo nodes, if we want to
>> reconstruct
>>
>> them, we can transfer (or roll) any of the pseudo nodes back to its zone
>> smoothly
>>
>> with no or minimum service interruption.
>>
>>
>>
>> We had a prototype implementation of abstracting a zone to zone
>> edges' full
>>
>> mess in OSPF. The procedures and related protocol extensions for
>> transferring
>>
>> smoothly from a zone to zone edges' full mess are implemented and tested..
>>
>> A zone (block of an OSPF area) is smoothly transferred to its edges’ full
>> mess
>>
>> without any routing disruptions. The routes on every router are stable
>> while
>>
>> the zone is being transferred to its edges' mess. It is very easy to
>> operate
>>
>> the transferring.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are two other drafts for improving scalability: "Area Proxy
>> for IS-IS"
>>
>> (Area Proxy for short) and "IS-IS Flood Reflection" (Flood Reflection for
>> short).
>>
>>
>>
>> "Area Proxy"
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-li-lsr-isis-area-proxy-03
>>
>> abstracts an existing IS-IS L1 area to a single pseudo node.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Flood Reflection"
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-przygienda-lsr-flood-reflection-01
>>
>> abstracts an existing IS-IS L1 area to its edges' connections via one or
>> more
>>
>> flood reflectors.
>>
>>
>>
>> We believe that TTZ has some special advantages even though
>>
>> Area Proxy and Flood Reflection are very worthy. We would like
>>
>> to ask for working group adoption of TTZ.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Huaimo
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