Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-zhu-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-flexalgo-07

2024-04-02 Thread Peter Psenak
Peter, Please see inline: *From:*Peter Psenak <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com> *Sent:* Thursday, March 21, 2024 5:39 PM *To:* Dongjie (Jimmy) <mailto:jie.dong=40huawei@dmarc.ietf.org>; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <mailto:ginsb...@cisco.com>; lsr@ietf.org;

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-zhu-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-flexalgo-07

2024-04-02 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Jie, On 02/04/2024 10:18, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote: Hi Peter, Please see inline: *From:*Peter Psenak *Sent:* Thursday, March 21, 2024 5:39 PM *To:* Dongjie (Jimmy) ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; draft-zhu-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-flexalgo.auth...@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Comments

Re: [Lsr] Is UPA expected to trigger BGP best path calculation?

2024-04-02 Thread Peter Psenak
PA signal. thanks, Peter Regards, Muthu On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:44 PM Peter Psenak wrote: Muthu, On 18/03/2024 10:41, Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal wrote: Hi all, draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce mentions BGP PIC edge as one the use cases for UPA in the prese

Re: [Lsr] Reg Question regarding ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2024-03-22 Thread Peter Psenak
Kotesh, On 19/03/2024 12:44, Kotesh Chundu wrote: Hi,   I have one query regarding the following content from the IGP UPA draft. As UPA advertisements in IS-IS are advertised in existing Link State PDUs (LSPs) and the unit of flooding in IS-IS is an LSP,*it is recommended that, when

Re: [Lsr] Is UPA expected to trigger BGP best path calculation?

2024-03-22 Thread Peter Psenak
Muthu, On 18/03/2024 10:41, Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal wrote: Hi all, draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce mentions BGP PIC edge as one the use cases for UPA in the presence of summarization. However, it is not quite clear whether UPA is expected to trigger BGP best path calculation at

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-igp-flex-algo-reverse-affinity-02.txt

2024-03-21 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 21/03/2024 20:52, Robert Raszuk wrote: Peter, Ok I think what you are proposing is pretty granular and that is fine. We may still disagree if link should be used at all if there are errors on this link in *ANY* direction. So my suggestion here is to have that support build in as

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-igp-flex-algo-reverse-affinity-02.txt

2024-03-21 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Robert, On 21/03/2024 18:26, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hey Peter, Why do we need the notion of "reverse direction" to be any different then the notion of forward direction from node B to A on a link ? For a link A->B, we typically use attributes in the direction A->B.

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-igp-flex-algo-reverse-affinity-02.txt

2024-03-21 Thread Peter Psenak
aft-ietf-lsr-igp-flex-algo-reverse-affinity-02.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Link State Routing (LSR) WG of the IETF.    Title:   IGP Flexible Algorithms Reverse Affinity Constraint    Authors: Peter Psenak             Jakub Horn             Amit Dhamija    N

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-zhu-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-flexalgo-07

2024-03-21 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Jie, On 21/03/2024 02:34, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote: Hi Les, Thanks for providing your opinion with an example. In your example, the default IGP metric is used, which is normally calculated based on bandwidth. While Flex-Algo can support metric types such as TE metric and delay. When

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption Poll for "Updates to Anycast Property advertisement for OSPFv2" - draft-chen-lsr-anycast-flag-06

2024-03-21 Thread Peter Psenak
ter thanks -- tony On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 6:22 PM Peter Psenak wrote: Tony, there are two use cases: 1. Your application wants to exclude address that is anycast - an example of where this can be used internally by IGP is a TI-LFA or uloop, when picking up the address

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption Poll for "Updates to Anycast Property advertisement for OSPFv2" - draft-chen-lsr-anycast-flag-06

2024-03-20 Thread Peter Psenak
Tony, there are two use cases: 1. Your application wants to exclude address that is anycast - an example of where this can be used internally by IGP is a TI-LFA or uloop, when picking up the address of the node over which we want to do the enforcement. There is a N bit as well, but in case

Re: [Lsr] IPR Poll for WG Adoption for "Updates to Anycast Property advertisement for OSPFv2" - draft-chen-lsr-anycast-flag-06

2024-03-20 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Acee, I am not aware of any IPR related to this document. Thanks, Peter On 19/03/2024 19:33, Acee Lindem wrote: Co-Authors, Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-chen-lsr-anycast-flag? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879,

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-gong-lsr-ospf-unreachable-link (02/23/24 - 03/08/24)

2024-02-23 Thread Peter Psenak
I support the adoption of the draft as a WG document. thanks, Peter On 23/02/2024 06:27, Yingzhen Qu wrote: Hi, This email begins a 2 week WG adoption poll for the following draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gong-lsr-ospf-unreachable-link/Please review the document and indicate

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call IPR Poll for "Flexible Algorithms: Bandwidth, Delay, Metrics and Constraints"

2024-02-19 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Acee, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR related to this document. thanks, Peter On 19/02/2024 23:20, Acee Lindem wrote: Co-Authors, Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-bw-con-07.txt? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-09 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi, I don't believe any of what is being proposed in the draft is necessary. There are existing mechanism available to advertise an inter-AS link. Using the prefix advertisement to pair the two ends of the inter-AS link is a bad idea IMHO. There are better ways of doing it - e.g.

[Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce - Early IANA allocation

2023-12-11 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi LSR Chairs, I would like to ask for an early IANA allocation for the two new prefix attributes flags as specified at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-01#name-iana-considerations For ISIS, the allocations of two new Prefix Attributes Flags

[Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-igp-flex-algo-reverse-affinity - Early IANA allocation

2023-12-11 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi LSR Chairs, I would like to ask for an early IANA allocation for the FAD sub-TLVs as specified at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-igp-flex-algo-reverse-affinity-01#section-11 There is a shipping implementation of the draft and we would like to secure the code points

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call for "Prefix Flag Extension for OSPFv2 and OSPFv3" - draft-chen-lsr-prefix-extended-flags-03

2023-11-22 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Shraddha, On 22/11/2023 12:58, Shraddha Hegde wrote: I support the adoption of the document. I have below comments 1. It is not clear whether " OSPFv2 Prefix Attributes Sub-TLV" and "OSPFv3 Prefix Attributes Sub-TLV" Would allow other sub-tlvs under them in future. If so, the flags should

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call for "Prefix Flag Extension for OSPFv2 and OSPFv3" - draft-chen-lsr-prefix-extended-flags-03 (Corrected End Date)

2023-11-21 Thread Peter Psenak
Changwang, On 22/11/2023 04:40, linchangwang wrote: Hi Acee and WG, I support the adoption of this draft as it provides a solution to effectively address the problem of insufficient existing flags for OSPFv2/OSPFv3. Additionally, it significantly enhances protocol extension

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv (11/17/2023 - 12/09/2023)

2023-11-19 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Yingzhen, I support the adoption. Multiple implementations already support what the draft is proposing. thanks, Peter On 17/11/2023 18:23, Yingzhen Qu wrote: Hi, This begins a WG adoption call for draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv: draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv-04 - Multi-part TLVs in IS-IS

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption IPR Poll for "Prefix Flag Extension for OSPFv2 and OSPFv3" - draft-chen-lsr-prefix-extended-flags-03

2023-11-17 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Acee, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-chen-lsr-prefix-extended-flags-03. thanks, Peter On 17/11/2023 16:48, Acee Lindem wrote: Co-Authors, Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-chen-lsr-prefix-extended-flags-03? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance

Re: [Lsr] Technical questions for draft about unreachable prefixes announcement

2023-11-06 Thread Peter Psenak
Aijun, please see inline: On 06/11/2023 13:23, Aijun Wang wrote: Hi, all: Here are some technical questions for the hurry adopted draft about unreachable prefixes announcement: 1) There exists already “prefix originator” sub-TLV to indicate the associated prefix is unreachable, what’s the

Re: [Lsr] 【Request AD Step In】 Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-11-03 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi John, On 31/10/2023 23:01, John Scudder wrote: Hi Aijun, I apologize for the length of time it’s taken me to respond to your request. Having now taken the time to study the question properly, including a review of both drafts in question, the WG adoption call, and the subsequent email,

Re: [Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-06 Thread Peter Psenak
un Wang *抄送:*Robert Raszuk ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak ; linchangwang ; lsr *主题:*Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 Hi Aijun, When the WG discussion first indicated th

Re: [Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-09-06 Thread Peter Psenak
[mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] *代表 *Acee Lindem *发送时间:*2023年9月6日0:56 *收件人:*Aijun Wang *抄送:*Robert Raszuk ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak ; linchangwang ; lsr *主题:*Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ure

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Peter Psenak
mailto:40huawei@dmarc.ietf.org>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 6:33 PM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) mailto:ginsb...@cisco.com>>; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>>; linchangwang mailto:linchangwang.04...@h3c.com>>; > Acee Lind

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Peter Psenak
ei....@dmarc.ietf.org>>; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>>; linchangwang mailto:linchangwang.04...@h3c.com>>; Acee Lindem mailto:acee.i...@gmail.com>>; lsr mailto:lsr@ietf.org>>; draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-annou...@ietf.o

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-30 Thread Peter Psenak
Changwang, On 30/08/2023 08:15, linchangwang wrote: Hi WG, When considering adoption, it's important to take into account the following drafts as well. Draft #1 link:https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-12.txt Draft #2

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Peter Psenak
wide. You claimed "PE may find useful to know them". All I sad was that MSDs are orthogonal to the summarization. thanks, Peter Thx. R. On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 11:52 AM Peter Psenak <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> wrote: Robert, On 29/08/2023 02:23,

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Peter Psenak
with prefixes and summarization. thanks, Peter Thx, R. On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 10:38 AM Peter Psenak <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> wrote: Robert, On 28/08/2023 14:19, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Daniel, > >  > [DV] No, there’s no need to leak and advertise

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 28/08/2023 14:19, Robert Raszuk wrote: Daniel, > [DV] No, there’s no need to leak and advertise You mean there is no need for RFC9352 in your network. If so - great. I was however asking the question: if network needs to advertise any of the information defined in RFC9352 would

Re: [Lsr] IPR Poll for Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-28 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Acee, I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR. thanks, Peter On 23/08/2023 13:02, Acee Lindem wrote: Co-Authors, Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-posenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979,

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04 (Fixed draft name)

2023-08-28 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Robert, please see inline: On 23/08/2023 14:48, Robert Raszuk wrote: Dear LSR WG, I object on two basis ... 1) The version -04 does not contain normative MUST that UPA shall only be used to trigger invalidation when end to end encapsulation is used for subject application(s). So as

Re: [Lsr] LFA types in ASLA

2023-08-14 Thread Peter Psenak
Muthu, On 14/08/2023 02:44, Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal wrote: Hi, draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis defines the F-bit in SABM as:       F-bit:  Set to specify Loop-Free Alternate (LFA) (includes all LFA          types). Does all LFA types mean LFA/RLFA/DLFA/TI-LFA as an application? if you need to

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-30 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Bruno, I will update the draft. thanks, Peter On 28/07/2023 14:32, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, From: Peter Psenak Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 8:00 PM Bruno, On 27/07/2023 16:12, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Bottom line: - we see that this can be problematic

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-27 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, On 27/07/2023 16:12, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Bottom line: - we see that this can be problematic in some cases - it's very easy to fix by mandating the use of the flags(s). I believe we understand each other. I even believe we are in a violent agreement, although we have

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-26 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, please see inline (##PP2): On 26/07/2023 23:34, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, From: Peter Psenak Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 11:26 PM Bruno, please see inline (##PP): On 26/07/2023 22:46, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, Please see inline From: Peter

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-26 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, please see inline (##PP): On 26/07/2023 22:46, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, Please see inline From: Peter Psenak Bruno, please see inline: On 25/07/2023 21:11, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, Please see inline From: Peter Psenak Sent: Tuesday, July 25

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-26 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Bruno, please see inline: On 26/07/2023 16:38, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, please see inline From: Peter Psenak Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 10:04 PM Bruno, please see inline: On 25/07/2023 20:58, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, Thank for you answer. Please

Re: [Lsr] UPA for option C

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 25/07/2023 22:19, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hey Peter and Lsr, At the risk of being called troublemaker by Les again :) can you refresh my failing memory how UPA would work in case of Inter-AS option C (where original next hops are maintained for service routes across two or more

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, please see inline: On 25/07/2023 21:11, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, Please see inline From: Peter Psenak Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 6:49 PM Bruno, please see inline: On 25/07/2023 18:36, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, Thanks for your answer. Please see

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, please see inline: On 25/07/2023 20:58, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, Thank for you answer. Please see inline [Bruno] From: Peter Psenak Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 6:11 PM Bruno, On 25/07/2023 14:39, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Hi all, IP reachability

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Psenak
, R. On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:38 AM Peter Psenak <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> wrote: Hi Robert, On 25/07/2023 18:51, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Hey Peter, > > I think the point Bruno is making is valid ... Imagine dual or triple > vendor networ

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Psenak
d networks (if ever to use UPA) this is NOT a local decision, For vast majority it is local as forwarding is using some sort of PE-PE encapsulation. Cheers, R. On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 9:11 AM Peter Psenak mailto:40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: Bruno, On 25/07/2023 14

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, please see inline: On 25/07/2023 18:36, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, Thanks for your answer. Please see inline [Bruno] From: Peter Psenak Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 6:05 PM Bruno, On 25/07/2023 14:39, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Hi all, With RC5305

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, On 25/07/2023 14:39, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Hi all, IP reachability advertised by IS-IS is often used by other routing and signaling protocols (e.g., BGP, PIM (rpf vector) LDP, RSVP-TE...). As such, UPA may affect those protocols. Has UPA been presented in other WGs in the

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, On 25/07/2023 14:39, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Hi all, With RC5305, in IS-IS we can advertise two states for a prefix IP1: * Positive reachability (state “1”), by advertising IP1 in TLV 135 with a metric lower than 0xFE00 * No reachability (state “0”) by either:

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call IPR Poll for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - draft-ietf-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-04

2023-07-20 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Acee, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR. thanks, Peter On 20/07/2023 01:19, Acee Lindem wrote: Authors, A cornucopia of IPR declarations have already been disclosed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft=draft-ietf-lsr-isis-fast-flooding Are you aware of any

Re: [Lsr] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-13: (with COMMENT)

2023-06-28 Thread Peter Psenak
2023 at 12:47, Peter Psenak wrote: Hi John, please see inline (##PP): On 27/06/2023 17:48, John Scudder wrote: Hi Authors, I don’t think we’ve completely closed on this. Zahed is asking for Section 3 to be tightened a little bit. The authors haven’t either said “no we won’t” or proposed text

Re: [Lsr] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-13: (with COMMENT)

2023-06-28 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi John, please see inline (##PP): On 27/06/2023 17:48, John Scudder wrote: Hi Authors, I don’t think we’ve completely closed on this. Zahed is asking for Section 3 to be tightened a little bit. The authors haven’t either said “no we won’t” or proposed text. In hopes of provoking some

Re: [Lsr] Paul Wouters' No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-13: (with COMMENT)

2023-06-08 Thread Peter Psenak
John, I'll remove the MUST. thanks, Peter On 08/06/2023 15:05, John Scudder wrote: Hi Peter and all, On Jun 8, 2023, at 2:43 AM, Peter Psenak wrote: A node MUST participate in a Flex-Algorithm to be: - Able to compute path for such Flex-Algorithm - Part

Re: [Lsr] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-13: (with COMMENT)

2023-06-08 Thread Peter Psenak
Zahed, please see inline: On 08/06/2023 12:42, Zaheduzzaman Sarker wrote: On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 9:36 AM Peter Psenak <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> wrote: Zahed, please see inline: On 08/06/2023 07:00, Zaheduzzaman Sarker via Datatracker wrote: > Zaheduzzama

Re: [Lsr] Paul Wouters' No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-13: (with COMMENT)

2023-06-08 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Paul, thanks for your comments, please see inline: On 08/06/2023 03:55, Paul Wouters via Datatracker wrote: Paul Wouters has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email

Re: [Lsr] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-13: (with COMMENT)

2023-06-08 Thread Peter Psenak
Zahed, please see inline: On 08/06/2023 07:00, Zaheduzzaman Sarker via Datatracker wrote: Zaheduzzaman Sarker has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-12: (with COMMENT)

2023-06-05 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Robert, On 05/06/2023 12:55, Robert Wilton via Datatracker wrote: Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-12: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines.

Re: [Lsr] [Last-Call] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-12

2023-06-01 Thread Peter Psenak
ne 1, 2023 at 06:19:54 PM GMT+3, Acee Lindem wrote: On Jun 1, 2023, at 06:54, Peter Psenak wrote: Hi Antoine, thanks for the review, please see my response inline: On 01/06/2023 11:22, Antoine Fressancourt via Datatracker wrote: Reviewer: Antoine Fressancourt Review result: Re

Re: [Lsr] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-12

2023-06-01 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Antoine, thanks for the review, please see my response inline: On 01/06/2023 11:22, Antoine Fressancourt via Datatracker wrote: Reviewer: Antoine Fressancourt Review result: Ready I have reviewed this document as part of the INT area directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF

Re: [Lsr] Ballot issued: to Proposed Standard

2023-05-21 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi John, I have uploaded the new version. thanks, Peter On 19/05/2023 20:45, John Scudder wrote: Hi Authors (and cc WG), I see there were some changes that were agreed during IETF LC. It would be great if you could issue a new version incorporating those before IESG evaluation; in the

Re: [Lsr] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-11

2023-05-16 Thread Peter Psenak
Yoav, thanks for comments, please see inline: On 15/05/2023 21:36, Yoav Nir via Datatracker wrote: Reviewer: Yoav Nir Review result: Has Nits Hi. I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.

Re: [Lsr] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-11 (Reformatted for Readability)

2023-05-15 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Bill, thanks for your comments, please see inline (##PP): On 13/05/2023 22:38, Acee Lindem wrote: Hi Bill, Thanks for the Ops review. I reformatted your Email for readability and continued discussion. Thanks, Acee Reviewer: Qin Wu Review result: Has Issues I have reviewed this document

Re: [Lsr] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-11 [REVISED]

2023-05-15 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Paul, thanks for your comments, I fixed both of them. Changes will be part of the next version. thanks, Peter On 12/05/2023 16:21, Paul Kyzivat wrote: [Resending with the the wg email address corrected] I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team

Re: [Lsr] AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-09

2023-05-04 Thread Peter Psenak
-authors of that draft, could either you or Acee cover applicability for both IP Algo and SRv6 Locator? sure. thanks, Peter That way we have functional parity for IP algorithm reachability for OSPF all taken care of. Thanks, Ketan On Thu, 4 May, 2023, 5:39 pm Peter Psenak, <mailto:p

Re: [Lsr] AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-09

2023-05-03 Thread Peter Psenak
a revision with corrections if you want. —John On May 2, 2023, at 6:06 AM, Peter Psenak wrote: Hi John, I apologize for the misses, likely the result of multiple editors updating the draft in parallel. I also fixed the nits and updated the security sections as you proposed. Version 10 has been

Re: [Lsr] AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-09

2023-05-03 Thread Peter Psenak
’t insist on the proposed rewrite. But even if you don’t use it you presumably should take the s/servers/serves/ proofreading correction. I’m going to go ahead and request IETF Last Call, but feel free to push a revision with corrections if you want. —John > On May 2, 20

Re: [Lsr] AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-09

2023-05-02 Thread Peter Psenak
(and Shraddha), On Apr 28, 2023, at 9:13 AM, Peter Psenak wrote: Shradha and I have worked to address your comments. The new version of the draft has been published. Thanks for that. I’ve reviewed the diffs in 09. I’ve attached a short review of it; there are some minor proofreading changes, but also

Re: [Lsr] AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-08

2023-04-28 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi John, Shradha and I have worked to address your comments. The new version of the draft has been published. thanks, Peter On 20/04/2023 02:27, John Scudder wrote: Hi Authors, WG, Thanks for this spec and for your patience as it waited for me to review it. I’ve supplied my questions and

Re: [Lsr] AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-08

2023-04-20 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi John, I usually push txt version and give XML only to RFC Editors. No particular reason, I can upload XML next time. thanks, Peter On 20/04/2023 15:41, John Scudder wrote: [adding individual cc for authors to work around bounce issues] One additional request — when you post your next

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-18 Thread Peter Psenak
uld answer directly. It is a mutual respect and also be fair to all of us, as I tried to answer all challenging questions whenever I could. I thought I have answered all of them already during the discussion. Let me try again, please see below. Rgds Louis -Original Message----- From: Pe

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-14 Thread Peter Psenak
s Louis -Original Message- From: Peter Psenak Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 7:03 PM To: Weiqiang Cheng ; 'Peter Psenak' ; Louis Chan ; 'linchangwang' ; 'Les Ginsberg (ginsbe' ; 'Acee Lindem' Cc: 'lsr' ; Krzysztof Szarkowicz Subject: Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertis

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-14 Thread Peter Psenak
that it may be optimized, does not mean it is a good idea to do so. thanks, Peter B.R. Weiqiang Cheng -邮件原件- 发件人: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppse...@cisco.com] 发送时间: 2023年4月14日 19:03 收件人: Weiqiang Cheng; 'Peter Psenak'; 'Louis Chan'; 'linchangwang'; 'Les Ginsberg (ginsbe'; 'Acee Lindem' 抄送: 'lsr

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-14 Thread Peter Psenak
Peter Psenak 发送时间: 2023年4月14日 16:51 收件人: Louis Chan; linchangwang; 程伟强; Les Ginsberg (ginsbe; Acee Lindem 抄送: lsr; Krzysztof Szarkowicz 主题: Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm Louis, On 14/04/2023 10:25, Louis Chan wrote: Hi Peter, I do not think we

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-14 Thread Peter Psenak
s, but only 5% difference in order to achieve some desired behavior. In this case, we should find a way to pack it efficiently. maybe you need a new version of the protocol to do what you propose. thanks, Peter Rgds Louis -Original Message- From: Peter Psenak Sent: Friday, April 14,

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-14 Thread Peter Psenak
that is advertised per link. You may have many SRLGs, many affinities, etc. Peter Rgds Louis -Original Message- From: Peter Psenak Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 5:09 PM To: Louis Chan ; linchangwang ; 程伟强 ; Les Ginsberg (ginsbe ; Acee Lindem Cc: lsr ; Krzysztof Szarkowicz Subject: Re

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-13 Thread Peter Psenak
th offset would also reduce the refresh requirement. Rgds Louis -Original Message- From: Peter Psenak Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 11:26 PM To: linchangwang ; 程伟强 ; Louis Chan ; Les Ginsberg (ginsbe ; Acee Lindem Cc: lsr ; Krzysztof Szarkowicz Subject: Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-13 Thread Peter Psenak
algos. thanks, Peter Rgds Louis *From:* Ketan Talaulikar *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:44 PM *To:* Louis Chan *Cc:* Krzysztof Szarkowicz ; Robert Raszuk ; linchangwang ; Acee Lindem ; Peter Psenak ; 程伟强 ; Les Ginsberg (ginsbe ; lsr *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for AdvertisingOffsetforFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-13 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert Raszuk ,linchangwang   ,Acee Lindem ,Peter Psenak  ,"程伟强"  ,"Les Ginsberg(ginsbe" ,lsr   *发送时间:*2023-04-13 12:31:12 *主题:*Re: [Lsr] IETF- 116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising OffsetforFlex-Algorithm Hi Ketan, Just a short response.

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-12 Thread Peter Psenak
Krzysztof, On 12/04/2023 17:50, Krzysztof Szarkowicz wrote: Hi, On 2023 -Apr-12, at 17:48, Peter Psenak wrote: [External Email. Be cautious of content] Krzysztof, On 12/04/2023 17:41, Krzysztof Szarkowicz wrote: Hi, It is the question, if we could for example have more than 20 (e.g

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-12 Thread Peter Psenak
guarantees, corresponding to different resource requirements. __ __ Thanks, Changwang lin __ __ *From:*Acee Lindem [mailto:acee.i...@gmail.com <mailto:acee.i...@gmail.com>] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 12, 2023 10:12 PM *To:* Peter Psenak *Cc:* l

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-12 Thread Peter Psenak
, Changwang lin -Original Message- From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Psenak Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 7:10 PM To: 程伟强; Louis Chan; Les Ginsberg (ginsbe; Acee Lindem Cc: lsr; Krzysztof Szarkowicz Subject: Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-12 Thread Peter Psenak
, Changwang lin -Original Message- From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Psenak Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2023 7:10 PM To: 程伟强; Louis Chan; Les Ginsberg (ginsbe; Acee Lindem Cc: lsr; Krzysztof Szarkowicz Subject: Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising

Re: [Lsr] IETF-116 LSR - IGP extensions for Advertising Offset forFlex-Algorithm

2023-04-12 Thread Peter Psenak
Weiqiang, please see inline (##PP): On 12/04/2023 12:05, 程伟强 wrote: Hi Louis and Les, My two cents from operator perspective. We've met the same problem when applying Flex Algo in SRv6 network. what problem exactly, can you please describe it? As the number of slices and the scale of

Re: [Lsr] Comments on draft-chen-lsr-isis-big-tlv-00

2023-03-29 Thread Peter Psenak
On 29/03/2023 10:29, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: a)Big TLV does not provide what the draft claims it does b)Having two ways to do the same thing is undesirable I can only agree with the above, (b) being the most important. Peter ___ Lsr mailing

Re: [Lsr] Interdomain UPA & UP Flag

2023-03-28 Thread Peter Psenak
On 28/03/2023 11:41, Aijun Wang wrote: There is already overload bit to accomplish the maintenance purposes, Why do you guys repeat such work again? OL-bit is only propagated inside the area. We are solving inter-area/inter-domain routing convergence here. Peter Aijun Wang China

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-03-27 Thread Peter Psenak
Mar 27, 2023 at 8:07 AM Peter Psenak <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> wrote: Robert, On 27/03/2023 16:57, Robert Raszuk wrote: >     Hi Peter, > >      >  4. Is an UPA for a /24 equivalent to 255 UPA for /32? (i.e. will >      &

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-03-27 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 27/03/2023 16:57, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hi Peter, >  4. Is an UPA for a /24 equivalent to 255 UPA for /32? (i.e. will >     trigger BGP PIC edge for 255 /32) no. For BGP PIC to be triggered by UPA, the UPA must be sent for the prefix that is used to resolve BGP

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

2023-03-27 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Bruno, On 27/03/2023 06:59, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Hi authors, Please find below some questions. 1. Assuming ABR1 advertises IP1 with metric 10 while ABR2 advertises IP1 with MAX metric. Is this prefix reachable or unreachable (or both)? UPA is meant to be sent only for

Re: [Lsr] Interdomain UPA & UP Flag

2023-03-27 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Robert, On 27/03/2023 10:05, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hi, I would like to get more clarification in respect to extending External LSAs for UPA. Area summary use case is pretty clear - but in case of redistribution (typical src of external LSAs) IMO we are going way too far with this. Let's

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption IPR Poll for "IGP Flexible Algorithms Reverse Affinity Constraint" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-flex-algo-reverse-affinity-01

2023-03-14 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Acee, I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPRs related to this draft. thanks, Peter On 10/03/2023 14:43, Acee Lindem wrote: Co-Authors, Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-flex-algo-reverse-affinity-01? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF

Re: [Lsr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9350 (7376)

2023-03-06 Thread Peter Psenak
Acee, if you ask me, I would not do anything. "IS" is correct in the text and it's well known. my 2c, Peter On 05/03/2023 14:32, Acee Lindem wrote: Hi Tony, On Mar 4, 2023, at 4:42 PM, Tony Li wrote: Hi all, IMHO, this erratum is correct, but the proposed fix is incorrect. In this

Re: [Lsr] Work Group Last Call IPR Call for 'Dynamic-Flooding on Dense Graphs" - draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding

2023-02-23 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Acee, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR. thanks, Peter On 22/02/2023 22:45, Acee Lindem wrote: Co-Authors, Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding-11.txt? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669

Re: [Lsr] Flags from draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions-19 and draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-08

2022-12-15 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Acee, On 15/12/2022 14:45, Acee Lindem wrote: Hi Peter, On Dec 15, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Peter Psenak wrote: On 15/12/2022 13:51, John Scudder wrote: Thanks, Peter. Doesn’t this mean that the OSPFv3 draft needs to create its own registry for the flags, then? it does. Section 2 defines

Re: [Lsr] Flags from draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions-19 and draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-08

2022-12-15 Thread Peter Psenak
. On Dec 15, 2022, at 6:29 AM, Peter Psenak wrote: John, On 14/12/2022 22:59, John Scudder wrote: Hi Authors, WG, As part of my review of draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext-12 I was looking at these documents and came up with a few comments that would otherwise become part of my AD review

Re: [Lsr] Flags from draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions-19 and draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-08

2022-12-15 Thread Peter Psenak
John, On 14/12/2022 22:59, John Scudder wrote: Hi Authors, WG, As part of my review of draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext-12 I was looking at these documents and came up with a few comments that would otherwise become part of my AD review for ospfv3-srv6-extensions, so I thought I’d share them

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8920bis-00

2022-12-08 Thread Peter Psenak
Chris, I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Peter On 07/12/2022 14:20, Christian Hopps wrote: This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending Dec 21, 2022, for: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8920bis/ Authors, Please indicate to the list, your knowledge of

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis-00

2022-12-08 Thread Peter Psenak
Chris, I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Peter On 07/12/2022 14:20, Christian Hopps wrote: This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending Dec 21, 2022, for: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis/ Authors, Please indicate to the list, your knowledge of

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-13 Thread Peter Psenak
On 12/11/2022 06:45, Christian Hopps wrote: On Nov 9, 2022, at 2:13 PM, Peter Psenak wrote: On 09/11/2022 14:56, David Lamparter wrote: On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 01:27:41PM +, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: I guess I'd like to understand what one would accomplish with further specification

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-10 Thread Peter Psenak
On 10/11/2022 11:59, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: Hi Robert, *From: *Robert Raszuk *Date: *Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 10:51 AM *To: *Acee Lindem *Cc: *Peter Psenak , Bruno Decraene , David Lamparter , "lsr@ietf.org" *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-anno

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-10 Thread Peter Psenak
On 09/11/2022 22:51, Aijun Wang wrote: Hi, Peter: Actually, the “unreachable” meaning of LSInfinity in current standard is not the same as the “unreachable” meaning that we are supposed to act: 1) In current standard, the “unreachable” is meant that the related prefix will not be in the

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-10 Thread Peter Psenak
Bruno, On 10/11/2022 02:18, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Peter, From: Peter Psenak Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 2:13 PM On 09/11/2022 14:56, David Lamparter wrote: On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 01:27:41PM +, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: I guess I'd like to understand what one would

Re: [Lsr] draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce / UPA IS-IS semantics

2022-11-09 Thread Peter Psenak
On 09/11/2022 16:32, David Lamparter wrote: On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 03:16:11PM +, Peter Psenak wrote: On 09/11/2022 15:48, David Lamparter wrote: On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 02:32:35PM +, Peter Psenak wrote: as far as that /128 is not used as BGP next-hop (which obviously is not the case

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