Re: [Lsr] New Subject: Is Flex-Algo One App or Many (was “RE: IETF13: Comments on The Application Specific Link Attribute (ASLA) Any Application Bit”)

2022-03-28 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi, > I do see new drafts that mistakenly assume ASLA can be used to advertise application specific values. Exactly ! And I do not blame any authors of those new drafts as for anyone with reading skills "Application Specific Link Attribute" means links attributes which correspond to either user

Re: [Lsr] New Subject: Is Flex-Algo One App or Many (was “RE: IETF13: Comments on The Application Specific Link Attribute (ASLA) Any Application Bit”)

2022-03-27 Thread Shraddha Hegde
>Calling RSVP-TE, SR, LFA or Flex-Algo as "applications" is confusing as those >are network forwarding paradigms and >not applications. I totally agree with that. It is very confusing to call them applications . I do see new drafts that mistakenly assume ASLA can be used to advertise

Re: [Lsr] New Subject: Is Flex-Algo One App or Many (was “RE: IETF13: Comments on The Application Specific Link Attribute (ASLA) Any Application Bit”)

2022-03-26 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Les, Nope the abbreviation is not confusing. Calling RSVP-TE, SR, LFA or Flex-Algo as "applications" is confusing as those are network forwarding paradigms and not applications. Applications (read user applications which samples I provided) are running on top of them. What you call

Re: [Lsr] New Subject: Is Flex-Algo One App or Many (was “RE: IETF13: Comments on The Application Specific Link Attribute (ASLA) Any Application Bit”)

2022-03-26 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert – The complete name (as reflected in the referenced registry name) is: Link Attribute Application Identifiers In the context of ASLA we tend to abbreviate that as “Application”. If you find that confusing, we can all try to use the more complete name. But whatever name we use, that is

Re: [Lsr] New Subject: Is Flex-Algo One App or Many (was “RE: IETF13: Comments on The Application Specific Link Attribute (ASLA) Any Application Bit”)

2022-03-26 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Les, What you call "an application" is simply counter intuitive and not what 99.9% of people understand by this term. Application to me is a web server running on the host waiting for user requests, SIP gateway providing VoIP connections, database instance running on some specific port and

Re: [Lsr] New Subject: Is Flex-Algo One App or Many (was “RE: IETF13: Comments on The Application Specific Link Attribute (ASLA) Any Application Bit”)

2022-03-26 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert – The defined set of APPs can be seen here : Bit NameReference 0 RSVP-TE (R-bit) [RFC8919] 1 Segment Routing Policy (S-bit)[RFC8919] 2

Re: [Lsr] New Subject: Is Flex-Algo One App or Many (was “RE: IETF13: Comments on The Application Specific Link Attribute (ASLA) Any Application Bit”)

2022-03-26 Thread Robert Raszuk
Les, To me what corresponds to network application is effectively a forwarding paradigm/topology build and used to forward corresponding traffic classe. You can overload application name the way you like but it does not change anything. So if this is going to make you more happy let's rename my

[Lsr] New Subject: Is Flex-Algo One App or Many (was “RE: IETF13: Comments on The Application Specific Link Attribute (ASLA) Any Application Bit”)

2022-03-26 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Robert – I changed the subject – because what you are talking about has nothing to do w the discussion of ANY bit. You have mentioned this before – and been corrected before – but it seems that did not alter your thinking. Flex-Algo is ONE APP. There is not a bit in the SABM assigned per algo