Re: [Lsr] [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-03 Thread Randy Bush
i am confused as why this is in grow. it's protocol. randy ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-05 Thread Randy Bush
robin, > It is not described clearly in the draft that reusing BMP is also a > possible option for monitoring IGP. We will refine the draft. if i could also use bmp for monitoring dns, smtp, and ntp, i could stop using nagios! i think what acee is trying to say is that "B" in BMP does not stan

Re: [Lsr] [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-06 Thread Randy Bush
> ​Why anyone would need BMP wrapper to monitor IGP ? probably similar reasons that folk seem to need bgp-ls to get the is-is/ospf databases. is-is and ospf have decades of complexity layered on un-simple bases. so we seek yet another layer of gunk through which to see them more 'simply.' i wou

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-07 Thread Randy Bush
robin, i am not ignoring you. i did not want to write unless i had something possibly useful to say; and that requires pretending to think, always difficult. > I would also like to propose following draft for your reference which > trigger us to move forward for better network maintenance with >

Re: [Lsr] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-11 Thread Randy Bush
> But I guess we all agree that this is not the best use of BGP protocol to > be now a vehicle of NMS only because it is easy with BGP to establish a TCP > session and to distribute "stuff" in a relatively loop free fashion. now that dns over tcp/tls is being deployed, we can return to the other o