Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian Jessie LTSP server?

2016-10-11 Thread Robert Mavrinac
The last message was an incomplete reply - got sent prematurely.

I resolved the issue by creating a separate physical Ubuntu 16.04 server for 
these clients, Not exactly what I wanted, but it works for what I needed it for.

As for the additional chroot on the Debian server, the Ubuntu client never 
starts as a fat client. Any missing information from the last reply will have 
to be added later, when I can get back to it.


From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagr...@debian.org>
Sent: October 4, 2016 12:17 PM
To: Robert Mavrinac; ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian 
Jessie LTSP server?

> That sure doesn't give much to go on...

> What is the output of "ltsp-info"?

I'll have to rebuild the client to try this again. I had to clean up the server 
cluster for now.

> Are there any *.desktop files in /opt/ltsp/CHROOT/usr/share/xsessions/?

Yes. gnome-flashback-metacity and gnome-flashback-compiz.

> How much ram do the clients have?

8 GB

> Do you have both the old LTSP-PNP image and Ubuntu image present, and is
> it booting from the desired image?

Yes, both are present, and it is booting from the desired image.

> Any other *detailed* useful information you might be able to provide?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian Jessie LTSP server?

2016-10-04 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2016-10-04, Robert Mavrinac wrote:
> ldm was already installed in the chroot, but the client still only
> boots as a thin client.
>
> These servers normally present clients configured using the ltsp-pnp
> method. I was trying to also add special purpose clients for
> occasional programming competitions and events. This is why I tried to
> add an Ubuntu client to a Debian LTSP server.
>
> The client installs and boots fine as a thin client, but I stall can't
> get it to boot as a fat client.

That sure doesn't give much to go on...

What is the output of "ltsp-info"?

What are the contents of your lts.conf, and where is the location of
your lts.conf?

Are there any *.desktop files in /opt/ltsp/CHROOT/usr/share/xsessions/?

How much ram do the clients have?

How do you know they're booting as thin clients? Open an
xterm/gnome-terminal/mate-terminal/etc.; what is the "USER@COMPUTER"
presented at the prompt?

How do you build the LTSP image? Did you rebuild it after installing a
desktop into the chroot?

Do you have both the old LTSP-PNP image and Ubuntu image present, and is
it booting from the desired image?

Any other *detailed* useful information you might be able to provide?


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian Jessie LTSP server?

2016-10-04 Thread Robert Mavrinac
I finally came back to revisit this.


ldm was already installed in the chroot, but the client still only boots as a 
thin client.


These servers normally present clients configured using the ltsp-pnp method. I 
was trying to also add special purpose clients for occasional programming 
competitions and events. This is why I tried to add an Ubuntu client to a 
Debian LTSP server.


The client installs and boots fine as a thin client, but I stall can't get it 
to boot as a fat client.


From: Raphaël RIGNIER <r.rign...@leschartreux.net>
Sent: September 28, 2016 2:40 PM
To: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian 
Jessie LTSP server?

Also, Fat client works only with ldm.
CHeck if it is installeld in chroot, and no param in lts.conf prevent the 
defaut behaviour (SCREEN_07=ldm).


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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian Jessie LTSP server?

2016-09-28 Thread Raphaël RIGNIER

Also, Fat client works only with ldm.
CHeck if it is installeld in chroot, and no param in lts.conf prevent 
the defaut behaviour (SCREEN_07=ldm).



Le 28/09/2016 à 09:21, Alkis Georgopoulos a écrit :

You need to install a desktop environment in the chroot, for example

sudo ltsp-chroot -m apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop

Then the appropriate /usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop file will
appear and LTSP_FATCLIENT will default to True.


On 27/09/2016 10:54 μμ, Robert Mavrinac wrote:

So I successfully built an Ubuntu 16.04 fat-client on a Debian Jessie
server. Rather than installing from jessie-backports, I pinned the ltsp
packages to the testing repository instead.


The client only boots as a thin client even with FAT_CLIENT=True in the
lts.conf file.


Is a fat-client boot not supported with mixed server/client
distributions? That would defeat the purpose of this experiment! What
might I be missing if it is supported? Would more packages in the
chroot fix this?




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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian Jessie LTSP server?

2016-09-28 Thread Alkis Georgopoulos
You need to install a desktop environment in the chroot, for example

sudo ltsp-chroot -m apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop

Then the appropriate /usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop file will
appear and LTSP_FATCLIENT will default to True.


On 27/09/2016 10:54 μμ, Robert Mavrinac wrote:
> So I successfully built an Ubuntu 16.04 fat-client on a Debian Jessie
> server. Rather than installing from jessie-backports, I pinned the ltsp
> packages to the testing repository instead.
> 
> 
> The client only boots as a thin client even with FAT_CLIENT=True in the
> lts.conf file.
> 
> 
> Is a fat-client boot not supported with mixed server/client
> distributions? That would defeat the purpose of this experiment! What
> might I be missing if it is supported? Would more packages in the
> chroot fix this?
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian Jessie LTSP server?

2016-09-27 Thread Robert Mavrinac
So I successfully built an Ubuntu 16.04 fat-client on a Debian Jessie server. 
Rather than installing from jessie-backports, I pinned the ltsp packages to the 
testing repository instead.


The client only boots as a thin client even with FAT_CLIENT=True in the 
lts.conf file.


Is a fat-client boot not supported with mixed server/client distributions? That 
would defeat the purpose of this experiment! What might I be missing if it is 
supported? Would more packages in the chroot fix this?

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian Jessie LTSP server?

2016-09-22 Thread Robert Mavrinac
That worked. Thanks.

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From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagr...@debian.org>
Sent: September 22, 2016 1:25 PM
To: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Can I build an Ubuntu Xenial chroot on a Debian 
Jessie LTSP server?

On 2016-09-22, Robert Mavrinac wrote:
> VENDOR=Ubuntu ltsp-build-client --arch amd64 --chroot xenial  --dist xenial 
> --mirror http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu --fat-client-desktop 
> ubuntu-mate-desktop --prompt-rootpass --purge-chroot
...
> ERROR: invalid distribution: xenial
> you may need to specify the distribution with the --dist argument:
>   /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client --dist etch
> error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally

You'll at least need the "debootstrap" package from
jessie-backports. Older versions of debootstrap do not support xenial.

  https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

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