Re: [luau] Underclocking / Cooling

2002-07-02 Thread Joe Linux
You could use two PC cases. One for the mother board and associated cards, and the other for the drives. That would be a cheap almost ready to go solution. You could run both cases without the covers to further dissipate the heat statically. A water cooled system would most likely require

Re: [luau] Underclocking

2002-07-02 Thread Joe Linux
I think it would be simpler to leave the cover off. Joel wrote: If you want to be *really* serious about increasing your airflow, you may need to modify your case, as described at http://www.2cooltek.com/case001.html.

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread Joe Linux
Refrigeration systems tend to use Steel in the condenser coil (the hot one) and aluminum or copper in the evaporative coil. My feeling is that copper would tend to hold the heat, for example a copper clad bottom on a pot or skillet. I'm pretty certain that aluminum cooling fins are the most

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread Robert Green
Your idea of just leaving the cover off is less efficient than a well-designed case with good air flow via a case fan, unless you're going to use a room fan to blow into the open case (or other method to increase the air flow across the components). Cooling (heat transfer) is a function of the

[luau] (Was: Underclocking) Fanless Athlon XP

2002-07-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Very interesting, just when we were talking about fanless CPUs, AMD started shipping Athlon XP SFF processors featuring low power consumption.: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1025602160 Vcore=1.05 to 1.45 V, Max heat dissipation: 35W, price: $116 Well, AMD has introduced a CPU

Re: [luau] Underclocking

2002-07-02 Thread Dean Fujioka
Heheheheheheheh I've thought about doing that a few times, but to ventilate my own heat, not the CPU's :-D dean Joel wrote: If you want to be *really* serious about increasing your airflow, you may need to modify your case, as described at http://www.2cooltek.com/case001.html. ;-) --Joel

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread MonMotha
Robert Green wrote: Your idea of just leaving the cover off is less efficient than a well-designed case with good air flow via a case fan, unless you're going to use a room fan to blow into the open case (or other method to increase the air flow across the components). Be really careful with

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread Jim Roby
Last night on slashdot was a link to water cooling,which leads to many interesting sites...total kit for $200 on one,also saw a page from a guy who says the fan can be quieted with out significant proformance loss by simply lowering the voltage from 12V to 7V...he does it by placing diods in

[luau] Lilo to get root shell

2002-07-02 Thread Dustin Cross
Just received this from the ITworld LINUX SECURITY news letter and thought some would find it interesting. --- July 02, 2002 Published by ITworld.com -- changing the way you view IT http://www.itworld.com/newsletters Another Backdoor to Root Access By Brian Hatch In last week's article, I

Re: [luau] Lilo to get root shell

2002-07-02 Thread MonMotha
You didn't know that? There's numerous ways to root a box you haev physical access to. Basically, if an attacker has physical access, you're 0wn3d buddy. linux single linux 1 *(Above two won't work on some distros, slack comes to mind as it's sulogin requires a root pw) linux

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread Robert Green
Yeah, I'd never do it that way, I am always short of outlets. I keep the cases closed up and save the desk fan for pointing at ME! g I've noticed the interference when I realized I can't keep em on my desk itself or it scrambles the monitor display. --- MonMotha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be

Re: [luau] Lilo to get root shell

2002-07-02 Thread Dustin Cross
I know several ways to get root with physical access, but I didn't know about using lilo like this or how to secure it. This is useful if you have linux workstations and want to make sure employees/users can't do things they shouldn't. Most of us know to set a bios/prom password so users can't

Re: [luau] Lilo to get root shell

2002-07-02 Thread MonMotha
lilo has the restricted flag that I usually use to allow normal booting without a password, but requires a password if any parameters are used. Many new BIOSes can have two separate passwords (supervisor and user) and only allow a floppy boot on supervisor (of course you can clear the CMOS,

[luau] Fanless Athlon XP

2002-07-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Well, since for most office tasks, clock speed provides absolutely no benefit once you move into the GHz range, the best desktop PC may be to use a couple of the mobile XPs in an SMP MB. This effectively doubles the size of the cach to 512 KB, as well as data transfer rate. And this system

[luau] HCC linux course

2002-07-02 Thread T. David Burns
There will be a beginning linux course at HCC July 18 and 23, taught by someone named Greevy (sounds sort of familiar?). I've no idea whether it will be good or not. They had one scheduled in May but it was cancelled for lack of students. Info at

Re: [luau] HCC linux course

2002-07-02 Thread Warren Togami
Is that Ho'ala Greevy teaching that course? Ho'ala? - Original Message - From: T. David Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: [luau] HCC linux course There will be a beginning linux course at HCC July 18 and 23, taught by someone

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread Ray Strode
My feeling is that copper would tend to hold the heat, for example a copper clad bottom on a pot or skillet. I'm pretty certain that aluminum cooling fins are the most efficient, although aluminum car radiators aren't very good while car radiators with copper fins are common and easy to

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread MonMotha
The characteristic you're looking to minimize is Thermal Resistance. I'm no thermo expert though so possibly do some googling on what that is exactly. Copper will tend to suck the heat away faster and then the objective of the fins is to maximize contact between the copper and the air (much

Re: [luau] Lilo to get root shell

2002-07-02 Thread yuser
Hey Speaking of uptime... Red Hat Linux release 7.1 (Seawolf) Kernel 2.4.2-2 on an i586 login: yuser Password: Last login: Sun Jun 30 19:08:17 from yuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] yuser]$ uptime 10:33pm up 179 days, 8:11, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 Not to shabby for a home server. My

Re: [luau] Lilo to get root shell

2002-07-02 Thread MonMotha
I had over 200 days on my laptop before I reinstalled win98 on it for the MPEG decoder (coindidentally, the hard drive died within 6 hours after installing win98...). Of course, I didn't really do much on it, but it was impressive to be able to claim I could beat my school's Novell server :)

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread yuser
On 2 Jul 2002 at 16:33, Ray Strode wrote: My feeling is that copper would tend to hold the heat, for example a copper clad bottom on a pot or skillet. I'm pretty certain that aluminum cooling fins are the most efficient, although aluminum car radiators aren't very good while car

Re: [luau] Info on POS terminal

2002-07-02 Thread al plant
Jeff Zidek wrote: I just wanted to let anyone who might be in need of a cheap linux box for whatever reason that I successfully loaded both redhat 7.3 and Mandrake 8.2 on an Omron POS terminal I got at Hawaii Computer Recyclers. It comes with a 200mhz processor a 2.1 gig hard drive

[luau] Wow! KDE 3.0.2

2002-07-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Just installed KDE 3.0.2. I must say . . . WOW!

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

2002-07-02 Thread Ray Strode
The reason for large copper bottoms is for even heating (and the reason that only the bottom is copper). Since copper can dissipate heat very well, the heat is spread across the pan more evenly. It is large to limit warping, provide a reserve, and still provide even heating when cold food is

Re: [luau] Browser interface question

2002-07-02 Thread Ben Beeson
Warren and others, I just donwloaded and installed Mozilla 1.1a, still no luck. That green button just isn't there... Ben On Monday 01 July 2002 07:35 pm, you wrote: The site seems to work in the latest Mozilla nightly build for me. Which part doens't work?