Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Jimen Ching
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Charles Lockhart wrote: >It was one of the things I too felt like I missed out on when I was a >full time student. Work played a significant part in killing many >aspects of student life for me. I guess things haven't changed much since when I was at UH in the '90 to '95 time

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Jimen Ching
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Ronnie T Livingston wrote: >I have known people who can sit down without any reference material and >code in multiple languages, this just boggles my mind. I love to program >and spend much of my free time doing so but I doubt I could compete with >these type of programmers in

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Warren Togami
- Original Message - From: "W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: [luau] ics412: operating systems > University and perhaps transfer away.> > > Please keep me posted and let's do some research to get prepared (in ca

[luau] Mandrake 9 & Geforce4 MX420

2002-09-30 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I really don't know what the heck is going on, but this is what happened. When the installation of the nVidia driver totally screwed up my machine, it simply booted to runlevel 3. So I logged in, cd'd to /etc/X11, used vi to edit the XF~-4 file by commenting out the "glx" line. This allowed

[luau] Demo Shirts

2002-09-30 Thread linuxdan
Im picking up the shirts for the team to wear at Demo day on Wednesday morning here locally.  They are 100% cotton Polo shirts and Royal blue in color.  I may not have time to have the MPLUG embrodered on the shirts but I will try.  I think someone in Chinatown may be able to do it.  I thoug

Re: [luau] RH8

2002-09-30 Thread Warren Togami
Hi Alvin, Could you please describe the overheating problems you were experiencing? I myself haven't seen those problems while I was working with Red Hat 7.3 on a Presario 722US. None of the current distributions would be any different when it comes to fan or thermal control because they all use

Re: Re: [luau] Mandrake 9 & Geforce4 Ti4200]

2002-09-30 Thread Rodney Kanno
I received them about 3:47pm today > > Did anyone get these? They haven't shown up on my side in over an > hour. > > -Eric Hattemer >

Re: [luau] Setting up a simple PPP Server

2002-09-30 Thread MonMotha
Brian Low wrote: Aloha all, I have a RedHat 7.3 system and I have been having trouble setting up a PPP Server for incomming trafic from ttyS0 port. Can anyone direct me toward the right direction to setting this up? Thanks, Brian Get a getty running on that terminal (modify /etc/inittab)

[Fwd: Re: [luau] Mandrake 9 & Geforce4 Ti4200]

2002-09-30 Thread Eric Hattemer
Did anyone get these? They haven't shown up on my side in over an hour. -Eric Hattemer --- Begin Message --- Really, something must've gone wrong. I'm using mdk 9rc3, which is 99% the same as mdk9. I installed the nvidia source rpms using the rpm command, not urpmi. I then compiled them wit

Re: [luau] Mandrake 9 & Geforce4 Ti4200

2002-09-30 Thread Eric Hattemer
Well, I have a nforce with GF2, so I can't 100% guarantee these. I'm still waiting for two posts to show up on the list, so who knows if this one will get through. But anyeay. If it says could not load GLX, that's a common error. Usually you don't even need to concern yourself with that. But t

Re: [luau] Mandrake 9 & Geforce4 Ti4200

2002-09-30 Thread Rodney Kanno
I tried your (Eric) instructions..and I suppose I got a little farther. Instead of getting the "no device found error" I get "could not load NV driver" or something like that (can't recall at the moment). Do I need to look into the instructions on the NVIDIA website a little more to try and get it

Re: [luau] Harsh review of RH 8

2002-09-30 Thread Don Brown
To second that, every time I think I've grown up and moved beyond Mandrake, I come back. MDK 9 really impressed me by configuring good menus for all window managers for one. I run mostly SuSE w/ IceWM and their menus were anemic. Of course I hacked up MDK's menu first thing, but it was nice to s

Re: [luau] Harsh review of RH 8

2002-09-30 Thread Eric Hattemer
I agree 100%. Mandrake 9 is sweet. RH is pretty frustrating sometimes. Everything that I found wrong in RH works beautifully in mandrake. I think one reason for this is the difference in their beta mailing lists. I was a member of both. The mdk guys are so nice and they fix problems like noth

Re: [luau] Mandrake 9 & Geforce4 Ti4200

2002-09-30 Thread Eric Hattemer
Really, something must've gone wrong. I'm using mdk 9rc3, which is 99% the same as mdk9. I installed the nvidia source rpms using the rpm command, not urpmi. I then compiled them with little problems (at first I forgot to download kernel-source and was all confused). Then when I set it up and r

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Eric Hattemer
Alright, nothing specific to cite here, but I have some comments. I'm at USC, and here we use a program called nachos for our OS class. I haven't taken the class, but I can tell you its the hardest class in CS if not the entire university. But everyone knows this, its a grad requirement, and the

Re: [luau] Mandrake 9 & Geforce4 Ti4200

2002-09-30 Thread cpaul
> From my limited experience, the only distro with 2.4.19 kernel that > works with GeForce4 card is Xandros (beta 3). Perhaps I should not have > written off Xandros so quickly. I have heard that, for networking with > Windows, Xandros does the best job. Gentoo and Debian work fine with 2.4.1

[luau] Harsh review of RH 8

2002-09-30 Thread Jeff Mings
I just read the OSNews review at http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1842 and am disappointed with many of its reported shortcomings. Mandrake 9 is looking more appealing all the time. -Jeff

[luau] RH8

2002-09-30 Thread Alvin Murphy
Thanks for the notice. I will definitely try it. I thought Mdk 9 would solve all my problems, but not so; for some reasons I do not understand, smb file transfers worked a lot better under RH 7.3 (both Nautilus and Konqueror had a drop down option of "copy to" which is not there in Mdk9); st

Re: [luau] Apache...again

2002-09-30 Thread Erich S.
Hiya, Check your httpd.conf file. It should be set in there. Do a search for the keyword "UserDir" and that should get you in the zone. Normally you'd get to it by going to: http://www.yourdomain.com/~username Where 'yourdomain' is your domain name, and 'username' is your username on your ser

[luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Please keep me posted and let's do some research to get prepared (in case we need to f*ck them). If they really do that (i.e., forcing students to sign a non-disclosure agreement), then we have a pretty serious constitution issue here.

[luau] Apache...again

2002-09-30 Thread Mike
I still have problems w/ apache and mandrake 9. Please help I want to make a web-site available to the internet, but i can't get it to work on localhost at all... i tried makeing the "public_html" folder under my user name (not root). But how am i going to get my Domain to point to it? i kn

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Charles Lockhart
Ronnie T Livingston wrote: I think a lot of students tend to gripe a lot and maybe get there way. I am also taking the 412 class and I remember Pat mentioning early on that he was going to give each student 3 opportunities to take a quiz and the final score you receive would be given to you. I

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Ronnie T Livingston
A wise man can see more from the bottom of a well than a fool can from a mountain top. -Unknown On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Charles Lockhart wrote: > remarks about Linux to date, except for this recent statement that he's > thinking (going to?) partially (completely?) switch the course back to > the e

[luau] Setting up a simple PPP Server

2002-09-30 Thread Brian Low
Aloha all, I have a RedHat 7.3 system and I have been having trouble setting up a PPP Server for incomming trafic from ttyS0 port. Can anyone direct me toward the right direction to setting this up? Thanks, Brian Brian Low Security X 1515 Nuuanu Ave. #555 Honolulu, HI 96817 Phone: (808) 371-3

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Charles Lockhart
Hey Jimen, Sorry, should have been more specific, but when writing my initial email I was in the middle of a little margarita party. The shell program was really a shell simulator that would provide basic shell functionality, parse the command line, find the command, redirect stdin/stdout, p

[luau] Eldred v. Ashcroft in Supreme Court

2002-09-30 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
The BusinessWeek article is somewhat misleading. On October 9, the Supreme Court will only decide whether it will "grant certiorari" to hear this case. The Supreme Court does not have to hear every case sent to it. Typically, only one out of every 100 cases petitioned to the Supreme Court is

[luau] Mandrake 9 & Geforce4 Ti4200

2002-09-30 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I don't think the downable nVidia source rpms work with the 2.4.19 kernel, yet. I installed the GLX and kernel source rpms on a system with GeForce4 MX420 and they screwed up my Mandrake 9.0 solid--I probably need to reinstall the whole thing. Ditto for Red Hat 8.0 Null. For the time being,

[luau] Mandrake 9 and Presario 711

2002-09-30 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
For non-network installations, Mandrake 9.0 seems to have problems with Samba. I understand some workarounds are being documented. http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/muo/connect/csamba4.html#winbind (We always have to wait until the betas are closed to report bugs. :-) )

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Charles Lockhart
Uhm, I tend to think that comp-sci is a professional degree, as is engineering, etc. Versus majors like, history, or communications. But then they might not see it that way either. But I understand and agree with where you're coming from. Unfortunately I have run into a lot of people who ge

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Charles Lockhart
Well, I can't say that I have any particular beef with Professor Gilbert 's attitude towards Linux. I haven't heard him make any negative remarks about Linux to date, except for this recent statement that he's thinking (going to?) partially (completely?) switch the course back to the emulator

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Charles Lockhart
Ah, I did misunderstand one thing in his email: he is going to allow the class to diverge into two paths, and allow people to either do the Linux based projects, or switch to the os simlator. Unfortunately, I would guess that if a majority of people wuss out, this'll be the last semester they

Re: [luau] Red Hat 8.0 release Monday

2002-09-30 Thread Jon Reynolds
Warren, Will other distro's have to follow suit in regards to mp3? Or is this just an RH deal? Also, does this mean that the ogg vorbis format could/should become the new standard? I would be interested to hear what you think. Jon On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 01:18, Warren Togami wrote: > Somet

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Jimen Ching
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Warren Togami wrote: >IMHO, it isn't that Linux is too hard... they just put almost zero effort >into giving resources to the students in getting them acclimated. Have you looked at the Linux kernel sources? I have. There are a few projects out there that are very hard to co

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Jimen Ching
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I may get flamed for saying this, but here goes anyway: Most people >study computer science because professional degrees (Law/Medicine) >usually require 7+ years of schooling. Ok, let me flame you for this. ;-} As long as people treat computer scien

Re: [luau] ics412: operating systems

2002-09-30 Thread Jimen Ching
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Charles Lockhart wrote: >From reading his email to the class it looks like the problems (excuses?) >people had were that they weren't good enough C programmers, Linux isn't >documented well enough, and os stuff is hard. All of these answers kind >of blow me away. If the goal