Re: [luau] For Ohau Locals Only

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 22:37, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: The last sentence should be: My main concern is, at the present time, nothing is going on, but when something may be going on, we, I am afraid, probably will not have enough manpower nor the (system-wide deployment) experience.

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 20:24, John Johnson wrote: Hmm...I just got the email from Red Hat today stating that my free distribution will reach its end-of-life in the next quarter. Not being aware of the current RH prices, I went over to the site to look at how much a low-end subscription would

Re: [luau] For Ohau Locals Only

2003-11-04 Thread Jan Daniel Semrau
Maybe you want to create and maintain a list of people who used to live in Hawaii, loved it, were driven out by the bad economy, but would love to come back. If you do that, you can put me on top of that list ;-). Because, I am moving to London in 3 weeks and I just deployed a system-wide

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread Tom_Gordon/RISE/HIDOE
Mandrake is just a shittier version of Red Hat. I've not used the drake-fly distro because of it's insistence that web-based GUI are acceptable means for system administration. Did you know Mandrake was once just a modified version of Red Hat Linux? SuSe is fine if you like lengthy install

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
When the best question (or which in this case) evokes responses with cursewords and slights without examples, no one really benefits. Tom_Gordon/RISE/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian is the biggest waste of storage space known to man. 8 CDs! Mostly crappy, useless, abandoned applications.

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread Warren Togami
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 07:52, R. Scott Belford wrote: If you liked the feel of RedHat, Mandrake or Suse are reasonable alternatives. I would personally advise that you consider Debian. The stable branch is something you can count on for the charity sites' servers. Come by one of our

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 09:43, Warren Togami wrote: Debian is fine, however it is absurd to recommend *BSD for end-user desktops. This is really missing the point, and calling it absurd sure doesn't add to the civility, Warren. Find below the original poster's comment. I picked up on two

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread Jan Daniel Semrau
I actually don't want to participate in religious distribution discussions, but what Tom wrote is not correct. I had only Debian 3.0 Disc 1 when I installed it on a server last month, but if you pass the boot option bf24 then Debian installes fine with Kernel 2.4.x.x and its no problem to

Re: [luau] For Ohau Locals Only

2003-11-04 Thread Hawaii Linux Institute
R. Scott Belford wrote: a yet-to-be released OS, Fedora, It appears to me that you have never tried Fedora, and, for some very strange reasons, probably never even bother to understand it. Please do not spread mis-information. Plus, there are other very unique reasons for me at least to

[luau] get your distros

2003-11-04 Thread Michael F.
i'm not sure i saw anyone mention that debian is the truly 'free' distro and hence good for your karma. besides apt-get last i checked is the preferred package manager. but 'distro war' has been done? aloha the penguin.

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread Warren Togami
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 10:16, R. Scott Belford wrote: Any early and successful user of Slackware should be able to migrate to a *bsd. I apologize, I read too quickly and didn't realize he meant server. Warren

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread Eric Hattemer
I firmlly believe that no one should comment on distributions they haven't tried and know little about. I've alternated between Mandrake and redhat every year for the last several years. I use Mandrake because its better, and Redhat every time Warren claims its better because of some kernel

[luau] user group defined logon scripts with Samba

2003-11-04 Thread Karotu Tannang
Mauri All - (Hi All) I've been trying to get Samba to redirect its users to their respective logon scripts but have had no luck lately. Here is my smb.conf # [global] workgroup = MWE netbios name = Server01 encrypt passwords =

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread Steve Anderson
Once you get used to single boot diskette based network installs for redhat, mandrake, and debian, its hard to go back to downloading gigabytes of CDs unless you already own the CDs or are installing many machines. SuSE also does the ftp install ... so no need for those ISOs and/or CDs

Re: [luau] get your distros

2003-11-04 Thread Vince Hoang
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:47:32AM -1000, Michael F. wrote: besides apt-get last i checked is the preferred package manager. I like to refer to apt as a front-end to package managers like dpkg and rpm. Most people refer to apt only by apt-get, but they neglect apt-cache. Before apt, I used

Re: [luau] Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread Vince Hoang
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:42:58AM -1000, Tom_Gordon/RISE/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you know Mandrake was once just a modified version of Red Hat Linux? Given that rpm used to stand for Red Hat Package Manager. This applies to distros like SuSE and Yellow Dog as well. -Vince

[luau] looking for google article that was previously posted

2003-11-04 Thread Vikram Khurana
Hi folks, Sometime back an article was posted on this newsgroup describing how google works. Unfortunately i can't seem to find it in the archives. Can someone please post it again. Thanks, V

[luau] Re: Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread John Johnson
I appreciate all the input you all have given. I think I will try out the Fedora project over debian for now. I am used to RH9 and that alone may make it worth doing. I was planning to set up a newer, faster box, so I don't mind the reinstall and reconfiguring. I was a little disappointed that RH

Re: [luau] Re: Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread Warren Togami
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 22:37, John Johnson wrote: I appreciate all the input you all have given. I think I will try out the Fedora project over debian for now. I am used to RH9 and that alone may make it worth doing. I was planning to set up a newer, faster box, so I don't mind the reinstall

Re: [luau] Re: Which Distribution To Go With

2003-11-04 Thread R. Scott Belford
Warren Togami wrote: Don't worry about Fedora disappearing or Red Hat abandoning the community. Everything in Fedora and even RH enterprise is still 100% Open Source Software. They have not compromised Open Source principles in the name of corporate profit. What would happen if, say in 5