Re: [LUAU] Anyone want some computer parts?

Hi Karen, I have a friend who can use the tablet for illustrating work that he dabbles with. Aloha, Rob - Original Message From: Karen Lofstrom To: LUAU Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 8:08:50 AM Subject: [LUAU] Anyone want some computer parts? Free: A roomy Antec tower case, all alu

Re: [LUAU] Open Source Pizza - Tuesday, January 20

Aloha, It's been so long since I had a free Tuesday, but tomorrow looks promising --- do we need to RSVP? What's the cost? Which building should I be looking for? Looking forward to seeing the OLPC and learning more about DIY netbook Mahalo, Rob --- On Mon, 1/19/09, R. Scott Belford wrote

Re: [LUAU] origins of Project GNU questioned...

--- Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, apparently wnj (Bill Joy) was the "unix hacker" who didn't > understand the "PC loser-ing problem" (PCLSRing), as referenced in > Gabriel's "Worse is Better" > ( >):

Re: [LUAU] AMD 500 CPU

What sort of performance do you need? I have a working Compaq celeron box in the garage (500 or 600 Mhz, I think) that your friend can have, complete with a DVD drive and the win 98 license & install CD =-) Aloha, Rob --- "HawaiiDakine.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aloha. > > Does anyone

Re: [LUAU] Linux HD Recovery

--- "John S. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the HD is intact, you can probably move it to the primary IDE > > interface and boot straight off of it. > > Thanks Vince! > HD is intact, but the motherboard is kaput. It's an old Athlon and > the system I am attaching it to via external U

Re: [LUAU] s/hosef.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors.hosef.org/g

Against my better judgment, I’m adding my 2 cents to this on the open list. Like Vince, I think it probably belongs off the list, but when I get 40-odd messages over the course of a day or two, and it is primarily from one or two people, I feel like folks feel that “everyone” agrees with one point

Re: [LUAU] Fighting Nudity at the Ewa Beach Park

This is probably off topic, but how did you come up with the subject line? Are the firefox settings being used to prevent access to adult content? --- "R. Scott Belford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aloha All > > With each firefox update of our K12LTSP lab at the park in Ewa Beach, > > the prox

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

Hi there, You may not know me, I'm a list lurker 99% of the time for the past many years, and just now wading through the smoldering backlog of mail from the past week on LUAU and HOSEF / HOSEF managers. I just wanted to thank you for: a) trying to keep a level head and calm things down when

Re: [LUAU] doing 'e'

--- Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Robert Green wrote: > > >--- Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Doug, of course, is a long-standing member of the Unix community. > >>(And thanks, I

Re: [LUAU] doing 'e'

--- Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doug, of course, is a long-standing member of the Unix community. > (And thanks, I didn't know about "The Music of Streams". > > Here is a large collection of programming "e-books". > http://www.programmingebooks.tk/ > > just in-case anyone is ge

Re: [LUAU] Interesting article - $100 laptop being developed at MIT

Considering the reports I have heard about air pollution and other pollution problems in in China, I think it would be a drop in the bucket, and worth the trade off. With any luck, they will have some better methods of handling IC and circuit board waste recycling in the years to come. --- Tim New

[LUAU] Interesting article - $100 laptop being developed at MIT

I saw this in one my tech newsletters: http://news.com.com/The+100+laptop+moves+closer+to+reality/2100-1044_3-5884683.html They're targetting developing nations, but this could be a real boon for any students anywhere. They mention a possible commercial version in the $200-$300 range, which would

[LUAU] from newsforge: Detroit school chooses Openoffice over MS Office

Interesting article from Newsforge about a Detroit schoolusing Openoffice http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/05/18/1944227.shtml?tid=130&tid=93 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yah

Re: [LUAU] Cherry gets a Clue

I'm confused it says its launching 5-1-2005 what did they learn exactly? --- "R. Scott Belford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose that many of you have been keeping up, when possible, with > the > CherryOS debacle. Well, it appears that the clue stick came down > pretty > hard la

Re: [LUAU] Might I Be Hacked II

Just a wild guess, but check to make sure you have plenty of space in your partitions. A few years ago I had a little web and game server that doubled as my workstation. All of a sudden, it was on its face for no apparent reason, and it turned out that the partition with the mail spool was too sm

Re: [LUAU] Tonights Think Tech Law

Not be critical, since I appreciate having the notifications posted, but I frequently stop checking my e-mail during the mid afternoon as I wrap up things for the day. If you put the notices out during mid-morning, I would be much more likely to get the word in time to try and tune into the show.

[LUAU] Laserjet 1000 help -- mechanical, not OSS

> > --- Original message follows. > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from [67.52.184.134] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; > Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:53:34 PDT > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:53:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: R

[LUAU] any laptops left from the Hosef giveaway?

I didn't make it down to the HOSEF giveaway because I was trying to curb my habit of "adopting" stray boxen in need of good homes, but after I checked my e-mail that night, I saw that there were some older laptops scheduled for liberation as well. If anybody picked up one that they could spare, I

Re: [luau] Be on the lookout for Stolen laptops

I wonder if there is a fax list for pawn shops, too? --- Brian Chee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've actually sent the exact same stuff to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and nothing > was on > the radio this morning > > I've also sent this out to every computer shop that I had in my > rolodex and > ever

Re: [luau] Re: Printing on FreeBSD

I didn't find out about free kits, but I bought one for $10 or $15 online that fixed the problem. Basically a sticky-back peice of rubber to replace the worn one in the pickup mechanism of the printer. Super easy to do, and fixed the problem on my machine as well. Well worth checking into if you ha

Re: [luau] [OT] Konami

Actually, I believe they still have offices in Waikiki near Duty Free. I have a friend who works three, they do game development for Game Boy, and I'm pretty sure it was Konami that she works for. --- Virgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They have a presence here in Hawaii but most of their develo

Re: [luau] Getting Donations

I would suggest approaching any small- to medium-sized business, as they may equipment they are replacing. As most will not bother to sell older equipment, they may find it attractive to hae the donateion as a tax write-off (assuming you're LUG is a non-profit). Aloha, Rob --- Florian Hines <[E

RE: [luau] Re: HOSEF Logo Vote

Tux-penguin == better than generic penguin -- it emphasizes the Open Source ties. Rob --- Taylor Cody L Contractor 502 AOS/PETS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. > > -Original Message- > From: Nakashima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PR

Re: [luau] Re: HOSEF Logo Vote

I'll vote for #6 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please vote for one of the two logos, #5 or #6, by posting to the > Luau > mailing list. > Deadline 27-June-2003, 11:59pm. > > http://www.hosef.org/logo.html > > > Mahalo, > Enrico > > ___ > LUAU mailin

Re: [luau] HOSEF / how to set up a non-profit

ARG! forgot to change the reply-to address. Sorry folks! That was supposed to go directly to Scott. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

[luau] HOSEF / how to set up a non-profit

Aloha Mr. Belford My name is Rob Green, and I know of you from the LUAU mailing list and your work with HOSEF. I wanted to see if I can ask you for any info you might be able to point me towards as far as establishing a non-profit organization. We are trying to re-establish our karate club, and

Re: [luau] Gov Tech Magazine Article

--- "Dennis T. Ching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was interesting that nobody really knows how it works yet, but > it is > working... > > --Dennis I think its is a case of the people at the ground level have a good grasp on it, and the upper management just taking the techies' word that it i

Re: [luau] Fuel for the Linux Fire

--- Casey Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, I noticed something else a little interesting in > both bills. They both mentioned that the state > governments would have to "avoid acquiring products > that do not comply with open standards for > interoperability or data storage; and avoid a

Re: [luau] server question

--- Vince Hoang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not sure what you mean by a daemon vs. rc.local. Adding > something to rc.local is a quick hack, but you might want to > add a script to /etc/init.d and offering start/stop services > so things run more cleanly. > > -Vince I didn't have the origi

Re: [luau] Personal Touch (was anyone know of a good computer repair place?)

An off-list buddy just got a Dell laptop that has a similar symptom, and he said that this particular model is notorious for eating fans. It sounds like its a likely culprit in this case, too... and a lot easier and cheaper to fix, probably a D-I-Y job once you find the right replacement fan...

Re: [luau] HOSEF logo suggestions

Speaking of the Aloha shirt Tux, what about a version with a scholar's mortar on his head and a diploma in his hand, plus the aloha shirt? That would say "linux" "education" and "hawaii" pretty graphically Aloha, Rob __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! P

Re: [luau] Personal Touch (was anyone know of a good computer repair place?)

I've also been there more than a few times for hard drives and other components, and they have been helpful gave me good prices and service, including giving me a little bit of a price break when I bought $600 worth of components a month ago to build a new system. I was really suprised to hear peop

Re: [luau] Belford sytlin'

I checked his site several times, I never found anything referencing Scott ... was it only in the print edition, or did they change their mind about what lead story to run this month? --- Ho'ala Greevy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The e-biz cover story for the March 2003 isssue of Hawaii Busines

[luau] "paperless" document management

I wonder if anybody on the list has had experience with converting or duplicating paper records (including text, scannable documents, photos, images, etc) into a digital format, and how best to manage search and retrieval. I have a large group of client records that I am considering either conver

Re: [luau] GLUUG, Friday Evening, 6:30PM -- Reservations?

Hehe, I was going to say, I didn't think Fergusson's took reservations, and I'm pretty sure they don't have a table for 10! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Woops - you are right - it is Murphy's. > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:36:28AM -1000, Ben Timmerman wrote: > > Uh, this is the first time

[luau] re: Public Schools (was: 'trolls')

Doh! sorry about that last one, hit the wrong key I think there is a tendancy of many folks in the Open Source camp (myself included) to get a little overzealous in doling out generalizations, particularly when we're faced with people who don't understand why we "know" Open Source is a better

[luau] Re: HOSEF & Public Schools (was: Trolls)

Doh! sorry about that last one, hit the wrong key I think there is a tendancy of many folks in the Open Source camp (myself included) to get a little overzealous in doling out generalizations, particularly when we're faced with people who don't understand why we "know" Open Source is a better

[luau] Re: HOSEF & Public Schools (was: Trolls)

--- Nakashima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, al plant wrote: > > > The Hawaii DOE is useless in any case. ( But the new Gov. is > trying to > > change it.) We should stick to the private schools like Mid PAC > and > > renegades in the State System like Mililani that appreciate

Re: [luau] users meet

--- Vince Hoang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A pizza parlor for a future outing would be cool. D&B (Dave & > Busters) would be fun, but very expensive. > > -Vince Nothing against Fergusson's (I like that place) but for pizza pubs, Magoo's at Puck's Alley has some parking, decent pizza and othe

Re: [luau] Trolls win when people quit

--- al plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Hawaii DOE is useless in any case. ( But the new Gov. is trying > to > change it.) We should stick to the private schools like Mid PAC > and > renegades in the State System like Mililani that appreciate the > Open > Source movement and the help HOSEF

Re: [luau] hyperthreading facts

--- MonMotha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Green wrote: > > I don't know much about Hyperthreading, but do the applications > need > > to be specially optimized and/or recompiled for you to get > > performance increases, or will standard applications se

Re: [luau] hyperthreading facts

I don't know much about Hyperthreading, but do the applications need to be specially optimized and/or recompiled for you to get performance increases, or will standard applications see these types of improvements just due to the CPU alone? Thanks! Rob --- "R. Scott Belford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [luau] Western DIgital Drives / Hard drives in general

Are all industry hard drive warrantees now shortened to 1 year? Are any of the drives carrying longer warrantees? Aloha, Rob --- Dustin Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aloha, > > I have 4 80GB western digital drives and I had to replace all 4 of > them > within 9 months of buying them. They

Re: [luau] talking smack

Keep your chin up, Charles I find myself deleting nearly everything I start to compose along these lines because either: 1) I'm afraid it will just fan the flames 2) I figure somebody else is going to say it anyway (which they do, even if worded differently) 3) I doubt the person will respo

Re: [luau] Graphic art design

--- Joe Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wondered that myself, because I know sometimes things come > through as > a double post. Also when you are new to some list, or a strange > one > like a "Linux" list then you might not acutely know if your message > went > through. My impression is

Re: [luau] Advertiser open source article

--- Warren Togami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2002/Oct/15/tc/tc01a.html > > This is the guy that wrote the very uninformed article a few months > ago > saying that the browser war was over, Internet Explorer won, and it > was > a waste of time t

Re: [luau] Logos Shirt design

I rather liked the aloha shirt Tux design that somebody made up a few years back, although I'm not sure where the link is nowadays.. --- Warren Togami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, could you please edit your Outlook Express settings to post > Plain Text > rather than HTML mail? Thanks. > >

Re: [luau] non-profit incorporation

--- "R. Scott Belford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. Great suggestion. It should be more general. > > > Let's generalize. I like how the following rolls of the tongue: > > Hawaiian Open Source Technology Foundation > or > Hawaiian Foundation for Open Source Technology > > scott I echo

[luau] Linux for Hawaii RR Tucows server (was: Redhat8.0 CD's...)

--- Patrick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the offer but I want to note, as I may have in the past, > it sure > would be nice if oceanic put linux releases on their tucows server. > It > would save rr users from glacial download times. > > Patrick I wonder if it would do any

Re: [luau] New Linux Worm Threatens Serious Denial Of Service Attacks Sept. 16, 2002

--- Eric Hattemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But seriously, does "Jaguar" actually do anything worthy of giving > it its > own name? > > -Eric Hattemer I don't keep up on Macs that much (I was told if we went to OSX on my wife's G3 it would be slow as cold molasses), but I do recall reading i

Re: [luau] Commercial Announcement Policy - Request for Comment

This seems like a reasonable idea. The vendor can submit the info, and notify the list, and after a certain number of people rate it, it gets the yeah or nay. --- MonMotha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about a K5 like system for these kinds of things. People post > their > opportunity to a

Re: [luau] Have a drink at the Elks?

Doh! Didn't mean to send that to the whole list --- Robert Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aloha Wayne, > > My wife keeps talking about wanting to join the Elks; if its not > too > nosy, can you tell me what the ballp

Re: [luau] Have a drink at the Elks?

Aloha Wayne, My wife keeps talking about wanting to join the Elks; if its not too nosy, can you tell me what the ballpark cost is for membership? Thanks, Rob Green --- "W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Protective Order > of the Elks (BPOE)? > > -Charles> > > Sorry that I missed

Re: [luau] IMPORTANT - Upcoming List Policy

Perhaps the best idea would be to have a separate list centered around the Linux for Schools project, particularly for the non-geek types? --- Jimen Ching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I will not support efforts to water down geek culture for the sake

Re: [luau] IMPORTANT - Upcoming List Policy

--- Warren Togami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 09:19, Gary Sublett wrote: > > > > Frankly, I am more troubled by the lack of trimming and off topic > > threads than the unsubstantiated controversial comments. > > > > Thank you for your polite suggestion. I will need to loo

Re: [luau] LUAU archive

This is a handy resource, but I don't suppose there is any way to add a search function, is there? --- Warren Togami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please remember that the list is archived on the Mailman web based > interface. Every LUAU post since November 1998 is there currently, > and > we

Re: [luau] Monitor Repair guy?

I'd be interested in getting this info, too - I have an ailing big boy monitor that has a fussy power supply (it only comes on when it feels like it, and I have to sit there cycling the power off and on a random number of times until it feels cooperative and comes online). --- Warren Togami <[EMA

Re: [luau] DSL vs. Cable (was: Configuring Router)

Dusty, Do you have to pay extra for the DSL line itself from the phone company, or does the $55 cover the line and the bandwidth both? Aloha, Rob --- Dustin Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mon > > I am not complaining about the cost. But for me as a power user > that is > too much. I run

Re: [luau] HELP please, need "undelete" / data recovery utility for FAT32 (Win 98)

He's not interested in changing his OS, he's interested in getting back the data from the machine that his ex-employees wiped. Thanks for the suggestion, though. --- al plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just converted a crashed Win 98 to Red hat 7.2 Linux with Open > Office. > Try that it

[luau] HELP please, need "undelete" / data recovery utility for FAT32 (Win 98)

Hi Folks, I am trying to fix a system for a friend. It is (was) a windows 98 machine, and his ex-employee either dragged the whole drive into the trash can, or did a recursive delete from the command line -- I don't know which one it was. When you start the machine, it will come up to the C:\ pro

Re: [luau] Shell Script Help

It was posted on the old list ... we all thought you were here and just lurking =-P - Rob --- Mike Ballon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To those that don't know me Aloha, to those that do how come nobody > told me > about the new list :P > __ Do Y

Re: [luau] Red Hat vs. Mandrake vs. SuSE

> With respect to the subject "Red Hat vs. Mandrake vs. SuSE", I am > actually in a very serious mode (definitely not in an experimental > mode). I am very interested in a Linux distro that can > legitimately > replace Windows for business desktops. > > I have all the four FreeBSD 4.6 CDs, but

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

Yeah, I'd never do it that way, I am always short of outlets. I keep the cases closed up and save the desk fan for pointing at ME! I've noticed the interference when I realized I can't keep em on my desk itself or it scrambles the monitor display. --- MonMotha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Be r

Re: [luau] Underclocking / Aluminum cases

Your idea of just leaving the cover off is less efficient than a well-designed case with good air flow via a case fan, unless you're going to use a room fan to blow into the open case (or other method to increase the air flow across the components). Cooling (heat transfer) is a function of the the

Re: [luau] Underclocking

No, thinkgeek was the only place I had heard of the Zalman. I guess you'd have to call around. Alternate idea: Peltier cooler ... I think several of the electronics surplus/supply places have them. Maybe allelectonics.com still has those. No moving parts, but the downside would be that it might he

Re: [luau] Underclocking

--- "W. Wayne Liauh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem with a fancy heat sink is that (I used to teach heat > transfer in college), when the fins collect dust, the heat transfer > > efficiency will be compromised substantially. The fancier the fins > are > designed, the more substantial

Re: [luau] Underclocking

Thinkgeek has a fancy cooling fin type setup at: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/fun-stuff/5a94.shtml that looks like it provides a ton of heat exchange. It may not allow you to completely eliminate the fan (although its possible) but certainly you might be able to get by withg something a lot le

[luau] Open source for Mac OS X?

My wife is getting one of the new Sony PDA's, and we need to upgrade her Mac to either OS 9 or OS X. I was wondering if there is a significant advantage in terms of getting more Open Source software for OS X like there are for other flavors of Linux/Unix? Otherwise ismight be tempting to get OS 9

Re: [luau] Re: 1st batch of USAF Dell computers

--- MonMotha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If Dell doesn't have a flash available, you might want to call them > up > and ask them if they could make one. They seem to have changed > their > policy on proprietary RAM (though not proprietary PSUs yet...). > > --MonMotha Speaking of proprietar

Re: [luau] Programming List

--- Dustin Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So if you do start that programming list I need help trying to get > a DOS > batch file to do the job of perl or a unix shell script and it aint > easy! :) > > > Dusty Just out of curiosity, have you considered perl for the DOS box? Rob _

[luau] Re: UML / read-only root file system (Was: INFO: Heavy duty storage needs)

--- MonMotha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've used UML before to isolate services. Ever tried breaking out > of a > chroot jail? This is even better. Ever tried breaking a system > where > the only thing available is a readonly root filesystem with a > single > daemon and a few required util

Re: [luau] [Article] Preinstalled Windows: AARGH! I can't get it off!

Time for: "As far as we know, this machine never had Windows installed on it " - Rob --- Rodney Kanno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you find the actual link? > > Whoops...here's the link > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25085.html > > -- > Take Action! Oppose the CBDTPA! >

[luau] Related to our "mission" : "E-cycling"

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/27/1331232 >From slashdot: eCycling" Pilot Program in 5 States and D.C. Several /. stories have discussed the problem of disposing of electonic gear laden with hazardous materials. The EPA, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia, West Virginia, DC, an

Re: [luau] Free DNS?

In addition to the search engine suggestion, you can also check out www.pronym.com Aloha, Rob --- Toky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Along time ago someone posted here some URLs of some companies that > were > providing free DNS servers I forgot all the other info on the post, > the > thing is t

Re: [luau] A Mission For Luau

If nothing else, we could set up thin clients or other machines to add to local projects which already have Linx and/or sysadmins available -- wasn't there one or two of the list members who was working with setting up linux machines for local schools? If nothing else, even if we don't set up a h

[luau] USB, CD-R questions

Two questions for ye of great technical savvy 1) RE: USB hubs - is USB really a "bus" in the electrical sense of the word, as in does it really matter what kind of hub I use to expand it, and can they be daisy-chained to create additional hubs if needed? I only have 2 ports on the machine I'm

[luau] USB, CD-R questions

Two questions for ye of great technical savvy 1) RE: USB hubs - is USB really a "bus" in the electical sense of the word, as in does it really matter what kind of hub I use to expand it, and can they be daisy-chained to create additional hubs if needed? I only have 2 ports on the machine I'm