Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-02-06 Thread Hawaii Linux Institute
Clifton Royston wrote: I also hope you bring back John Terpstra's seminar next year, as I'm still kicking myself for passing it up. Just my $0.02c. Am still kicking my own 8th for not attending it. Wayne

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-02-04 Thread Al Plant
Aloha Rob, Applause for Jim from over here in FreeBSD land too. Al Plant -- Webmaster- http://hawaiidakine.com Admin- http://freebsdinfo.org -- Supporting Open Source Computing - - FreeBSD 4.11/6.* -- Debian Linux 3* All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carroll

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-02-01 Thread Robert Green
Hi there, You may not know me, I'm a list lurker 99% of the time for the past many years, and just now wading through the smoldering backlog of mail from the past week on LUAU and HOSEF / HOSEF managers. I just wanted to thank you for: a) trying to keep a level head and calm things down

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-31 Thread Stan Baptista
Or, I could be wrong about any or all of the above. No, you're pretty much right on target I think. You touched on a lot of areas that go beyond the direct focus of this list (energy, land, education...) in response to some of my comments. Given that, this may now be too off-topic for others

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-31 Thread Maddog
] To: LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why? this means they reflexively shy away from associating it with doing serious business. This definitely seems to be the case in Hawaii but there's probably a bit more

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-31 Thread Jon Reynolds
Jim Thompson wrote: Stan Baptista wrote: this means they reflexively shy away from associating it with doing serious business. This definitely seems to be the case in Hawaii but there's probably a bit more to it. Vegas has a major marketing campaign going on these days about what happens

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-30 Thread Clifton Royston
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 11:17:37PM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Matt Darnell wrote: I really don't follow this. For the most part, people did not attend because of the time of year, time of week, and time of day. Next year we will do this on Friday and

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-30 Thread Jim Thompson
Clifton Royston wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 11:17:37PM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote: On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Matt Darnell wrote: I really don't follow this. For the most part, people did not attend because of the time of year, time of week, and time of day. Next year we

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-30 Thread Stan Baptista
this means they reflexively shy away from associating it with doing serious business. This definitely seems to be the case in Hawaii but there's probably a bit more to it. Vegas has a major marketing campaign going on these days about what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Exactly which part of

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-30 Thread Jim Thompson
Stan Baptista wrote: this means they reflexively shy away from associating it with doing serious business. This definitely seems to be the case in Hawaii but there's probably a bit more to it. Vegas has a major marketing campaign going on these days about what happens in Vegas stays in

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Matt Darnell
Jim, Guess what? The HCC is *cheap*. They want a small percentage of the gate for us. *C*H*E*A*P*, and its a nice venue to boot. What about the WIFI situation would have made your blood boil? I'm curious. I thought I heard that they would sell an Internet connection for a large sum and

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Julian Yap
On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 19:12 -1000, Matt Darnell wrote: I think general conferences are dead. If I subscribed to a couple of podcasts, I am sure I could hear what the speakers presented, maybe not the exact same thing, but something similar. Why would anyone want to come to a convention just

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread R. Scott Belford
Matt Darnell wrote: A little late but here are my answers Am I going - No I find your response most interesting and obviously a little late to be helpful. Ironically, you made no such comments after our first year, when, let's see, you spoke and were an in-kind sponsor. Why? - None

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread R. Scott Belford
Matt Darnell wrote: Jim, Guess what? The HCC is *cheap*. They want a small percentage of the gate for us. *C*H*E*A*P*, and its a nice venue to boot. What about the WIFI situation would have made your blood boil? I'm curious. I thought I heard that they would sell an Internet

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Stan Baptista
Normally a conference is not mic'd up to capture audience questions. So mic them. Although this thread is discussing the pros/cons of attending a conference and what the topics should be, fact is not everyone can do that. The QAs are extremely useful.

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread R. Scott Belford
Stan Baptista wrote: Normally a conference is not mic'd up to capture audience questions. So mic them. Although this thread is discussing the pros/cons of attending a conference and what the topics should be, fact is not everyone can do that. The QAs are extremely useful. Thanks, Stan. I

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Julian Yap
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 07:45 -1000, R. Scott Belford wrote: Stan Baptista wrote: Normally a conference is not mic'd up to capture audience questions. So mic them. Although this thread is discussing the pros/cons of attending a conference and what the topics should be, fact is not

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Jim Thompson
R. Scott Belford wrote: Matt Darnell wrote: Jim, Guess what? The HCC is *cheap*. They want a small percentage of the gate for us. *C*H*E*A*P*, and its a nice venue to boot. What about the WIFI situation would have made your blood boil? I'm curious. I thought I heard that they

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Matt Darnell
On 1/29/06, Julian Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C. Hell, if you weren't there to listen to Andre Hill, CHIEF TECHNICAL OFFICER of Novell, answer questions in depth for over an hour about the direction and strategy of one of the largest global companies supporting Open Source then that's your

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Matt Darnell
On 1/29/06, R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Darnell wrote: A little late but here are my answers Am I going - No I find your response most interesting and obviously a little late to be helpful. Ironically, you made no such comments after our first year, when, let's

Fwd: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Matt Darnell
I thought I heard that they would sell an Internet connection for a large sum and would not let you NAT it (not that they could stop you) so people were trying to pick up WiFi from across the street. We set up a brilliant station with Jim's gear from Netgate. Sorry you missed it and

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Matt Darnell
On 1/29/06, R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Novell *has* migrated their own stuff. They address this subject well. Rana Dutt definitely could have taught you a few things about big time VOIP deployments. I fear, Matt, you are determined to stick to your opinion in spite of the

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread R. Scott Belford
Matt Darnell wrote: On 1/29/06, R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Novell *has* migrated their own stuff. They address this subject well. Rana Dutt definitely could have taught you a few things about big time VOIP deployments. I fear, Matt, you are determined to stick to your

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Ho'ala Greevy
A weekend conference would work much better for me! Scott, put me down for helping next year. I don't know if I can commit a lot of time, but I'll do what I can. mahalo, Ho'ala R. Scott Belford said: For the most part, people did not attend because of the time of year, time of week, and

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Matt Darnell
On 1/29/06, R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Darnell wrote: On 1/29/06, R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Novell *has* migrated their own stuff. They address this subject well. Rana Dutt definitely could have taught you a few things about big time VOIP

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-29 Thread Jim Thompson
On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Matt Darnell wrote: I really don't follow this. For the most part, people did not attend because of the time of year, time of week, and time of day. Next year we will do this on Friday and Saturday. I hope changing the day makes a big difference. We've

[LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-28 Thread Matt Darnell
A little late but here are my answers Am I going - No Why? - None of the topics were of much interest to me. They all had a very academic feel to them...not practical. The price was fine, like me, most of us here, I tip more that in a month. What would cause me to attend TCON-07? - I

Re: [LUAU] Am I going to TPOSSCON - If not why?

2006-01-28 Thread Jim Thompson
A little late but here are my answers Am I going - No Why? - None of the topics were of much interest to me. They all had a very academic feel to them...not practical. The price was fine, like me, most of us here, I tip more that in a month. What would cause me to attend TCON-07? -