Re: [LUAU] My experience with using Fedora Core 6 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook

2006-11-13 Thread Julian Yap
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 19:43 -1000, Peter Besenbruch wrote:
  The link doesn't work.
 
  Try this one instead:
  http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_%22Zod%22_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook
 
 I went to the site and did a search for Fedora. I got a laptop from 
 rCubed with Fedora 5 installed. All buttons work, and so does 
 hibernation. Networking is nicely automated. I understand they did a lot 
 of kernel patching to get things to work. Using a standard Fedora kernel 
 breaks a lot of stuff.

Does using the standard kernel break stuff?  Or do things (such as
wireless cards) not work it because it doesn't include non-free or
binary only drivers? 

 My other machines, including laptops use Kanotix. Debian's apt is so 
 much faster than Yum, it isn't funny.

Yum in FC6 is noticeably faster.  For FC =5 Yum was totally written in
Python, so for FC6, some functions were re-written in C.

Yum at times can give the impression that it's slower as it randomly
picks an official mirror to download from.  Sometimes you get a slow
mirror...  But you can change that for instance by installing
'yum-fastestmirror'.

Mostly Yum and Apt give the same result.  They just have different
approaches...  So I doubt Yum will reach the 'speed' of Apt because of
how Yum and RPM headers are implemented.

The biggest issue I've heard about Apt is that it can't handle
multi-architecture packages as well as Yum but I'm not too sure:
http://lwn.net/Articles/190671/

~ Julian


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[LUAU] My experience with using Fedora Core 6 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook

2006-11-12 Thread Julian Yap
Hi all,

A quick search found few notebook write ups about FC6 so I though I'd
post my review.

Link:
http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_Zod_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook

Overall I am more that satisfied with Fedora Core 6 on my notebook.
Previously I ran and used (not just installed for the fun of it) FC5,
Ubuntu 6.06 and 5.10.

FC6 is rock solid and the AIGLX/Compiz integration is awesome.  Ubuntu
always felt more flaky on my notebook.

~ Julian

PS.  PFOSSCON 2007 is coming...

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Re: [LUAU] My experience with using Fedora Core 6 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Besenbruch

Julian Yap wrote:

Hi all,

A quick search found few notebook write ups about FC6 so I though I'd
post my review.

Link:
http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_Zod_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook


The link doesn't work.

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Re: [LUAU] My experience with using Fedora Core 6 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook

2006-11-12 Thread Julian Yap
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:49 -1000, Peter Besenbruch wrote:
 Julian Yap wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  A quick search found few notebook write ups about FC6 so I though I'd
  post my review.
  
  Link:
  http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_Zod_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook
 
 The link doesn't work.

Try this on instead:
http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_%22Zod%
22_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook

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Re: [LUAU] My experience with using Fedora Core 6 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook

2006-11-12 Thread Julian Yap
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 18:01 -1000, Julian Yap wrote:
 On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:49 -1000, Peter Besenbruch wrote:
  Julian Yap wrote:
   Hi all,
   
   A quick search found few notebook write ups about FC6 so I though I'd
   post my review.
   
   Link:
   http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_Zod_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook
  
  The link doesn't work.
 
Try this one instead:
http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_%22Zod%22_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook

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Re: [LUAU] My experience with using Fedora Core 6 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook

2006-11-12 Thread Hawaii Linux Institute

Julian Yap wrote:

Hi all,

A quick search found few notebook write ups about FC6 so I though I'd
post my review.

Link:
http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_Zod_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook

Overall I am more that satisfied with Fedora Core 6 on my notebook.
Previously I ran and used (not just installed for the fun of it) FC5,
Ubuntu 6.06 and 5.10.

FC6 is rock solid and the AIGLX/Compiz integration is awesome.  Ubuntu
always felt more flaky on my notebook.

~ Julian

PS.  PFOSSCON 2007 is coming...

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FC6 works very nicely, one of the main reasons is that it is the only 
major distro that uses the 2.6.18 kernel.  In fact it is the only distro 
that works well with nVidia's newest nforce 570/590 chipsets if you have 
a Windows/Linux dual boot (or for my case, Windows/Linux/Solaris 
triple-boot) system.  SuSE 10.2 final is coming out anytime now.  Many 
will find it more polished than FC6.  ( in a few months FC7 will be 
even better than SuSE 10.2, and so far so forth . . .)


For whatever reasons, FC6 installation does not include kernel headers.  
A quick  dirty yum install will install the wrong kernel headers.  Do a 
uname -r before you manually install the headers from a Fedora Core 
ftp.  Then the config.h header file is deprecated.  If your work depends 
on VMWare, make sure you do a thorough googling b/f deciding whether to 
do the upgrade.  But overall, Fedora Core 6 is a very polished distro; 
it is fast, and is highly recommended.


Ubuntu always makes a very appealing initial impression, but, as I 
mentioned previously, it requires a lot of customizations.  For 
sophisticated home users who have a large size LCD/plasma HDTV, the most 
interesting distro is probably KnoppMyth-based Debian.  Wayne

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Re: [LUAU] My experience with using Fedora Core 6 on a Dell Inspiron 6000 notebook

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Besenbruch

The link doesn't work.



Try this one instead:
http://julianyap.com/wiki/Fedora_Core_6_%22Zod%22_on_a_Dell_Inspiron_6000_notebook


I went to the site and did a search for Fedora. I got a laptop from 
rCubed with Fedora 5 installed. All buttons work, and so does 
hibernation. Networking is nicely automated. I understand they did a lot 
of kernel patching to get things to work. Using a standard Fedora kernel 
breaks a lot of stuff.


My other machines, including laptops use Kanotix. Debian's apt is so 
much faster than Yum, it isn't funny.

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