[LUAU] Something Linux Related

2008-07-04 Thread Peter Besenbruch
I thought I would put in something Linux related. I installed OpenSuse on a 
Virtualbox machine. It was a network install. It took hours. Part of the 
problem was that Suse's servers have the bad habit of dying. At least it was 
easy to recover.

I installed KDE4. I was pleasantly surprised; this was the first KDE4 from a 
distro that I found usable. It was vastly better that Fedora's aborted 
monstrosity. Another benefit over Fedora, is that Suse's X server actually 
played well with Virtualbox.

I am also playing with a Qemu image of KDE4daily. These are regularly updated 
versions of KDE4 on Ubuntu (almost daily). I am watching the updates come 
down as I write. I have seen KDE4.1 go from a painfully slow, crash prone 
desktop to something improved. It's picked up speed (yes, even on Qemu), and 
it doesn't crash as much. Sometimes, a new feature will creep in, but I'm 
still waiting for a decent bookmark tool for Konqueror.
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Re: [LUAU] Something Linux Related

2008-07-04 Thread Julian Yap
One thing I liked about KDE3 was their version of Konsole (X terminal program).

I had set up nice settings for it so it felt like Firefox with the tab 
shortcuts and a few other things like you could make different display settings 
for the title bar and the tab text.  You could do this thing where you could 
send the text input for one window to all the other tabs.

So not with KDE4 they've 'cleaned it up' so a lot of the reasons I used it in 
the first place are gone.  They've taken out all the 'Advanced' features.  I 
may as well be using Gnome-Terminal.

Luckily I haven't upgraded my office workstation so I'm still on the Konsole 
version I like...  A different story on my home laptop.

Anyone know if I can easily run KDE3's Konsole on a KDE4 based distro?

Anyone else know of another 'advanced' X terminal program that they use?

- Julian

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 From: Peter Besenbruch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [LUAU] Something Linux Related
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 Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 10:35 AM
 I thought I would put in something Linux related. I
 installed OpenSuse on a 
 Virtualbox machine. It was a network install. It took
 hours. Part of the 
 problem was that Suse's servers have the bad habit of
 dying. At least it was 
 easy to recover.
 
 I installed KDE4. I was pleasantly surprised; this was the
 first KDE4 from a 
 distro that I found usable. It was vastly better that
 Fedora's aborted 
 monstrosity. Another benefit over Fedora, is that
 Suse's X server actually 
 played well with Virtualbox.
 
 I am also playing with a Qemu image of KDE4daily. These are
 regularly updated 
 versions of KDE4 on Ubuntu (almost daily). I am watching
 the updates come 
 down as I write. I have seen KDE4.1 go from a painfully
 slow, crash prone 
 desktop to something improved. It's picked up speed
 (yes, even on Qemu), and 
 it doesn't crash as much. Sometimes, a new feature will
 creep in, but I'm 
 still waiting for a decent bookmark tool for Konqueror.
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 HAS Deepsky Atlas: http://www.hawastsoc.org/deepsky
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Re: [LUAU] Something Linux Related

2008-07-04 Thread Peter Besenbruch
 So not with KDE4 they've 'cleaned it up' so a lot of the reasons I used it
 in the first place are gone.  They've taken out all the 'Advanced'
 features.  I may as well be using Gnome-Terminal.

KDE4 has gotten a little more Gnomish, and that's not a good thing. I'm 
hoping much of that configurability comes back.

 Anyone know if I can easily run KDE3's Konsole on a KDE4 based distro?

You should be able to run KDE3 and 4 on the same machine. One of the reasons 
Suse's version of KDE4 is so good is that it incorporates elements of KDE3.

I read in the Debian newsletter that Lenny, the upcoming release will not 
include KDE4. I think that's a good thing. In preparation for the changeover, 
I have been changing my APT sources to reference Lenny, rather than Testing. 
KDE 3.5.9 is a really good desktop environment, and I think I want to stick 
with it for a while yet.

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