[LUAU] RR SMTP should resolve with OpenDNS

2010-12-03 Thread Jeff Mings
That doesn't seem right...  I am using the OpenDNS servers (just 
double-checked resolv.conf to make sure), and I get:

PING smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com (71.74.56.22) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (71.74.56.22): icmp_seq=1 
ttl=242 time=128 ms


I'm using RR in the McCully area, but for a non-RR host, that shouldn't 
matter...


Oddly, the traceroute for what should be a Hawaii-based server dies 
after going through RR's Cali tbone.


Aloha,
-Jeff


On 12/02/2010 09:45 PM, Dwight Victor (Gmail) wrote:
Yeah, I'm not having trouble resolving anything as I have my own 
caching DNS server with Google's DNS as my primary nameservers.  My 
issue is that my RoadRunner email is hosed.  Even with OpenDNS' 
servers I can't resolve smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com...something is 
royally screwed.


-bash-3.00# dig @208.67.222.222 smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com


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Re: [LUAU] RR SMTP should resolve with OpenDNS

2010-12-03 Thread Dwight Victor (Gmail)

Weird...it's working now.

That doesn't seem right...  I am using the OpenDNS servers (just 
double-checked resolv.conf to make sure), and I get:

PING smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com (71.74.56.22) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (71.74.56.22): icmp_seq=1 
ttl=242 time=128 ms


I'm using RR in the McCully area, but for a non-RR host, that 
shouldn't matter...


Oddly, the traceroute for what should be a Hawaii-based server dies 
after going through RR's Cali tbone.


Aloha,
-Jeff


On 12/02/2010 09:45 PM, Dwight Victor (Gmail) wrote:
Yeah, I'm not having trouble resolving anything as I have my own 
caching DNS server with Google's DNS as my primary nameservers.  My 
issue is that my RoadRunner email is hosed.  Even with OpenDNS' 
servers I can't resolve smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com...something is 
royally screwed.


-bash-3.00# dig @208.67.222.222 smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com


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Re: [LUAU] RR SMTP should resolve with OpenDNS

2010-12-03 Thread Al Plant

Dwight Victor (Gmail) wrote:

Weird...it's working now.

That doesn't seem right...  I am using the OpenDNS servers (just 
double-checked resolv.conf to make sure), and I get:

PING smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com (71.74.56.22) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (71.74.56.22): icmp_seq=1 
ttl=242 time=128 ms


I'm using RR in the McCully area, but for a non-RR host, that 
shouldn't matter...


Oddly, the traceroute for what should be a Hawaii-based server dies 
after going through RR's Cali tbone.


Aloha,
-Jeff


On 12/02/2010 09:45 PM, Dwight Victor (Gmail) wrote:
Yeah, I'm not having trouble resolving anything as I have my own 
caching DNS server with Google's DNS as my primary nameservers.  My 
issue is that my RoadRunner email is hosed.  Even with OpenDNS' 
servers I can't resolve smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com...something is 
royally screwed.


-bash-3.00# dig @208.67.222.222 smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com


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I think there is some bigger issue.  For 2 days now I have lost a DNS 
server feed from the mainland off and on and its a Net Enterprise line 
with Hawaii Telcom. But if I recall RR and Oceanic have a dead ocean 
cable and they were using other Pacific services temporarily.




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Re: [LUAU] RR SMTP should resolve with OpenDNS

2010-12-03 Thread Stanfield, Doug
Al,

The dead cable was inter island and has been fixed for a while.  The DNS and 
other issues were resolved in the early hours this morning by fixing 
misbehaving or misapplied route filters.

-Doug-


On 12/3/10 3:31 PM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:

Dwight Victor (Gmail) wrote:
 Weird...it's working now.

 That doesn't seem right...  I am using the OpenDNS servers (just
 double-checked resolv.conf to make sure), and I get:
 PING smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com (71.74.56.22) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (71.74.56.22): icmp_seq=1
 ttl=242 time=128 ms

 I'm using RR in the McCully area, but for a non-RR host, that
 shouldn't matter...

 Oddly, the traceroute for what should be a Hawaii-based server dies
 after going through RR's Cali tbone.

 Aloha,
 -Jeff


 On 12/02/2010 09:45 PM, Dwight Victor (Gmail) wrote:
 Yeah, I'm not having trouble resolving anything as I have my own
 caching DNS server with Google's DNS as my primary nameservers.  My
 issue is that my RoadRunner email is hosed.  Even with OpenDNS'
 servers I can't resolve smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com...something is
 royally screwed.

 -bash-3.00# dig @208.67.222.222 smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com

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I think there is some bigger issue.  For 2 days now I have lost a DNS
server feed from the mainland off and on and its a Net Enterprise line
with Hawaii Telcom. But if I recall RR and Oceanic have a dead ocean
cable and they were using other Pacific services temporarily.



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Re: [LUAU] RR SMTP should resolve with OpenDNS

2010-12-03 Thread Al Plant

Stanfield, Doug wrote:

Al,

The dead cable was inter island and has been fixed for a while.  The DNS and 
other issues were resolved in the early hours this morning by fixing 
misbehaving or misapplied route filters.

-Doug-


On 12/3/10 3:31 PM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:

Dwight Victor (Gmail) wrote:

Weird...it's working now.


That doesn't seem right...  I am using the OpenDNS servers (just
double-checked resolv.conf to make sure), and I get:
PING smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com (71.74.56.22) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (71.74.56.22): icmp_seq=1
ttl=242 time=128 ms

I'm using RR in the McCully area, but for a non-RR host, that
shouldn't matter...

Oddly, the traceroute for what should be a Hawaii-based server dies
after going through RR's Cali tbone.

Aloha,
-Jeff


On 12/02/2010 09:45 PM, Dwight Victor (Gmail) wrote:

Yeah, I'm not having trouble resolving anything as I have my own
caching DNS server with Google's DNS as my primary nameservers.  My
issue is that my RoadRunner email is hosed.  Even with OpenDNS'
servers I can't resolve smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com...something is
royally screwed.

-bash-3.00# dig @208.67.222.222 smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com


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I think there is some bigger issue.  For 2 days now I have lost a DNS
server feed from the mainland off and on and its a Net Enterprise line
with Hawaii Telcom. But if I recall RR and Oceanic have a dead ocean
cable and they were using other Pacific services temporarily.



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   + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
   + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD  7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +
email: n...@hdk5.net 
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Aloha Doug,

You are da man!

I just got an email from my DNS host Zone EDIT and the tech said they 
too are seeing the issue now resolved from there end.


Happy Holidays.

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Re: [LUAU] RR SMTP should resolve with OpenDNS

2010-12-03 Thread Julian Yap
Yeah, all the outbound hawaii.rr.com mail flows through 4 mainland servers

I use Google Public DNS at home: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

The Hawaii.rr.com DNS servers are really bad and don't honor TTL's.  They just 
have very long caching and it varies depending on the DNS server you hit.

- Julian

--- On Thu, 12/2/10, Jeff Mings je...@lava.net wrote:

From: Jeff Mings je...@lava.net
Subject: [LUAU] RR SMTP should resolve with OpenDNS
To: LUAU luau@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org
Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:21 PM

That doesn't seem right...  I am using the OpenDNS servers (just double-checked 
resolv.conf to make sure), and I get:
PING smtp-server.hawaii.rr.com (71.74.56.22) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (71.74.56.22): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 
time=128 ms

I'm using RR in the McCully area, but for a non-RR host, that shouldn't 
matter...

Oddly, the traceroute for what should be a Hawaii-based server dies after going 
through RR's Cali tbone.

Aloha,
-Jeff

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Re: [LUAU] RR SMTP should resolve with OpenDNS

2010-12-03 Thread Peter Besenbruch
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 17:56:25 -0800 (PST)
Julian Yap julian_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I use Google Public DNS at home:
 http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
 
 The Hawaii.rr.com DNS servers are really bad and don't honor TTL's.
 They just have very long caching and it varies depending on the DNS
 server you hit.

Aside from Lavanet's DNS servers, I keep the Verizon DNS IP addresses
handy. They start at 4.2.2.1. I almost always prepend the Verizon
server when a computer uses Hawaiiantel as its ISP, as their DNS servers
are frequently slow, or lack information and stall out (like when
trying to reach debian.org).
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