, 2007 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Top 10 Best / Worst Cities For Software Developer Pay
On Mar 25, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Maddog wrote:
Hawaii's real estate market actually looks a lot better than other
areas. Since real estate is a regional business and not a national
business I would tend to think
On Mar 25, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Maddog wrote:
Like I said in my last post, solve the VC problem and a software
industry might have a better chance of surviving.
Straight-forward. Eliminate the need for a 2nd round. Possible
issue here is fooling the VCs (who are greedy) into thinking that
On Mar 25, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Maddog wrote:
Hawaii's real estate market actually looks a lot better than other
areas. Since real estate is a regional business and not a national
business I would tend to think you might see a small dip rather
than the sky is falling . In comparison to the
!
MD
jim
MD
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On Mar 23, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Maddog wrote:
Jim,
I think it's
have a better chance of surviving.
MD
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On Mar 24, 2007, at 6:12 AM, Maddog wrote:
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On Mar 23, 2007, at 6:09 AM, Maddog wrote:
I think it's more of a supply and demand proposition. There are
not a lot of software development companies here
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From: Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mar 23, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Maddog wrote:
Jim,
I think it's a perpetual chicken and egg thing. More
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Subject: Re: [LUAU] Top 10 Best / Worst Cities For Software
Developer Pay
On Mar 23, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Maddog wrote:
Jim,
I think it's a perpetual chicken and egg thing. More companies
would consider moving here if the talent pool existed and more
software engineers would
salaries.
MD
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On Mar 20, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Eric Hattemer wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote
--- Maddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it's more of a supply and demand proposition. There
are not a lot of
software development companies here and worker demand is low,
therefore
employers can pay whatever workers will accept and workers
have to accept
what is offered or not work.
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Subject: Re: [LUAU] Top 10 Best / Worst Cities For Software
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On Mar 20, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Eric Hattemer wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Where are the exports for Hawaii
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Subject: Re: [LUAU] Top 10 Best / Worst Cities For Software Developer Pay
On Mar 23, 2007, at 6:09 AM, Maddog wrote:
I think it's more of a supply and demand proposition. There are not a
lot of software development companies here and worker demand is low,
therefore employers can pay
Jim,
I think that you misunderstood Stan's comment (and explanation). The voice
saying If you don't like it, don't let the door hit your butt... is not
Stan's advice to you but his description of the basic attitude of potential
employers in Hawaii.
Email sure has a way of being taken the
Well, if thats true, then I apologize.
On Mar 19, 2007, at 10:06 PM, Ronald L Fox wrote:
Jim,
I think that you misunderstood Stan's comment (and explanation).
The voice saying If you don't like it, don't let the door hit your
butt... is not Stan's advice to you but his description of the
Jim Thompson wrote:
Well, if thats true, then I apologize.
It is. It was clear Stan wasn't happy with the situation either.
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Jim Thompson wrote:
Where are the exports for Hawaii?
I think this is the key question. You can't pay people with money you
don't have. It's not so much about how much are they paying as who
is there that can actually pay? I think the only way to solve this
problem would be to get more
On Mar 20, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Eric Hattemer wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Where are the exports for Hawaii?
I think this is the key question. You can't pay people with money
you don't have. It's not so much about how much are they paying
as who is there that can actually pay? I think
Honolulu does not rank well on this:
http://www.delatores.com/blog/default.aspx?id=14t=Top-10-Best-Worst-
Cities-For-Software
While Honolulu ranks fourth from the top in raw salary levels, when
adjusted for cost of living, Honolulu ranks *dead last*.
Perhaps Lingle should do something
On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 22:04 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
Honolulu does not rank well on this:
http://www.delatores.com/blog/default.aspx?id=14t=Top-10-Best-Worst-
Cities-For-Software
While Honolulu ranks fourth from the top in raw salary levels, when
adjusted for cost of living, Honolulu
Out of interests sake, this is what you get when you sort by the Cost of
Living column.
Top 10:
CitySalary
---
San Francisco $92,570 206 $ 44,937
San Jose$99,250 192 $ 51,693
Oakland $92,570 180 $ 51,428
San Diego
On Mar 18, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Julian Yap wrote:
Out of interests sake, this is what you get when you sort by the
Cost of
Living column.
Top 10:
CitySalary
---
San Francisco $92,570 206 $ 44,937
San Jose$99,250 192 $ 51,693
At 01:27 am Monday 07 03 19, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mar 18, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Julian Yap wrote:
Out of interests sake, this is what you get when you sort by the
Cost of
Living column.
Top 10:
CitySalary
---
San Francisco $92,570 206 $
Why does Hawaii pay so little when the cost of living is so high?
For better or worse the answer comes down to: Because it can. Also called the
price of paradise.
I asked this question when I came back home after being away for 30 years and
making a living as a software engineer in the Boston
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Julian Yap wrote:
The figure that sticks out like a sore thumb is that Honolulu pays at
least $14,000 LESS than the next lowest raw salary in the top 10.
Why does Hawaii pay so little when the cost of living is so high?
No big mystery or conspiracy. Might want to pick
On Mar 19, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Stan Baptista wrote:
Why does Hawaii pay so little when the cost of living is so high?
For better or worse the answer comes down to: Because it can. Also
called the price of paradise.
I asked this question when I came back home after being away for 30
Yet Lingle is making noise about getting Hawaii competitive,
Operative word: noise.
Basically, if you don't like it, don't let the door hit your butt
on your way to San Francisco (or, I guess, Houston;-)
expletive that noise. I'm here and staying. Who the expletive are
you to
On Mar 19, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Stan Baptista wrote:
Yet Lingle is making noise about getting Hawaii competitive,
Operative word: noise.
Basically, if you don't like it, don't let the door hit your butt
on your way to San Francisco (or, I guess, Houston;-)
expletive that noise. I'm here and
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