Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Vince Hoang
Brian,

That stratum-1 Rasberry Pi project is really cool.

Jeff,

http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/us

You can list multiple servers and get your time normalized between all of
them.

-Vince

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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Al Plant

Brian Chee wrote:

Why not run your own NTP server? The stratum1 Raspberry Pi would cost under
$100 in hardware and that includes a pretty long external GPS patch antenna
that you can stick to the inside of a window.

http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.html

Though the GPS unit from Adafruit has an external antenna connector and the
patch antenna is bitchin. I'm considering combining projects to do a gps
synched clock (7 segment displays) that also serves NTP.

/brian chee

## 


Brian,

  Cool Project

 AL.



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:


Yes, Brian, the first NTP pool address I listed is from ntp.pool.org, but
it may be farther away /slower depending upon which server in the pool
answers the query.

Al, I always appreciate your suggestions, but I noticed that the NASA
NTP server is really not supposed to be publicly available:
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000270
Strangely, the ntp.hawaii.edu server doesn't have a stratum rating, and I
know that a few years ago, it oddly jumped forward to the year 2030:
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000453

In terms of ping time and likely long-term reliability, the NIST
server in LA is looking like my best option : nist1-la.ustiming.org

Sincerely,
-Jeff




On 02/20/2014 12:52 PM, Brian Chee wrote:


Can't answer that, but Alan Whinery is behind it and it's providing NTP
for
UHM ITS facilities. Have you thought of ntp.pool.org?

/brian chee



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

 That was fast!  You are SO on it, Mr. Chee!  :D

 Since you work with the UH IT dept., I'm not surprised you produced
a
UH server.  Is this particular server _reliably_ deployed?  I.e., will it
likely be consistently available 5 years from now?  There are a lot of
devices, like phones, that I need to set a good NTP server on that I
might
not check for several years.

Thanks Brian,
-Jeff

On 02/20/2014 12:44 PM, Brian Chee wrote:

 ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.

Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
Address: 128.171.235.62


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

  Hi All!


  After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are
changing
their operation.

  I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for
quite
some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.

  Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to
have
a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a
server
or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft
NTP
servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice
for
long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
times, and the NIST has a nice status page at
http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
servers.cgi   for checking service.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks,

-Jeff


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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Al Plant

Jeff Mings wrote:
Yes, Brian, the first NTP pool address I listed is from ntp.pool.org, 
but it may be farther away /slower depending upon which server in the 
pool answers the query.


Al, I always appreciate your suggestions, but I noticed that the 
NASA NTP server is really not supposed to be publicly available:

http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000270
Strangely, the ntp.hawaii.edu server doesn't have a stratum rating, and 
I know that a few years ago, it oddly jumped forward to the year 2030:

http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000453

In terms of ping time and likely long-term reliability, the NIST 
server in LA is looking like my best option : nist1-la.ustiming.org


Sincerely,
-Jeff



Hi Jeff,

I got the nasa, columbia servers from some freeBSD list in a published 
form. I think Mike Lucas lists some reliable ntp servers for regions in 
Absolute BSD.


The pool servers are part of the problem since the IP s are from all 
over. One of the guys in England tells me and shouldnt be trusted if you 
need real accuracy.


AL

##


On 02/20/2014 12:52 PM, Brian Chee wrote:
Can't answer that, but Alan Whinery is behind it and it's providing 
NTP for

UHM ITS facilities. Have you thought of ntp.pool.org?

/brian chee



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:


That was fast!  You are SO on it, Mr. Chee!  :D

 Since you work with the UH IT dept., I'm not surprised you 
produced a
UH server.  Is this particular server _reliably_ deployed?  I.e., 
will it

likely be consistently available 5 years from now?  There are a lot of
devices, like phones, that I need to set a good NTP server on that I 
might

not check for several years.

Thanks Brian,
-Jeff

On 02/20/2014 12:44 PM, Brian Chee wrote:


ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
Address: 128.171.235.62


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

  Hi All!

  After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are
changing
their operation.

  I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for 
quite

some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.

  Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to
have
a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a
server
or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the 
Microsoft NTP
servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid 
choice for

long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
times, and the NIST has a nice status page at 
http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/

servers.cgi   for checking service.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks,

-Jeff











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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Brian Chee
Why not run your own NTP server? The stratum1 Raspberry Pi would cost under
$100 in hardware and that includes a pretty long external GPS patch antenna
that you can stick to the inside of a window.

http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.html

Though the GPS unit from Adafruit has an external antenna connector and the
patch antenna is bitchin. I'm considering combining projects to do a gps
synched clock (7 segment displays) that also serves NTP.

/brian chee



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

> Yes, Brian, the first NTP pool address I listed is from ntp.pool.org, but
> it may be farther away /slower depending upon which server in the pool
> answers the query.
>
> Al, I always appreciate your suggestions, but I noticed that the NASA
> NTP server is really not supposed to be publicly available:
> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000270
> Strangely, the ntp.hawaii.edu server doesn't have a stratum rating, and I
> know that a few years ago, it oddly jumped forward to the year 2030:
> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000453
>
> In terms of ping time and likely long-term reliability, the NIST
> server in LA is looking like my best option : nist1-la.ustiming.org
>
> Sincerely,
> -Jeff
>
>
>
>
> On 02/20/2014 12:52 PM, Brian Chee wrote:
>
>> Can't answer that, but Alan Whinery is behind it and it's providing NTP
>> for
>> UHM ITS facilities. Have you thought of ntp.pool.org?
>>
>> /brian chee
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:
>>
>>  That was fast!  You are SO on it, Mr. Chee!  :D
>>>
>>>  Since you work with the UH IT dept., I'm not surprised you produced
>>> a
>>> UH server.  Is this particular server _reliably_ deployed?  I.e., will it
>>> likely be consistently available 5 years from now?  There are a lot of
>>> devices, like phones, that I need to set a good NTP server on that I
>>> might
>>> not check for several years.
>>>
>>> Thanks Brian,
>>> -Jeff
>>>
>>> On 02/20/2014 12:44 PM, Brian Chee wrote:
>>>
>>>  ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
 Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
 Address: 128.171.235.62


 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

   Hi All!

>   After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are
> changing
> their operation.
>
>   I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for
> quite
> some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.
>
>   Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to
> have
> a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
> CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a
> server
> or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft
> NTP
> servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice
> for
> long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
> times, and the NIST has a nice status page at
> http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
> servers.cgi   for checking service.
>
> Any better suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jeff
>
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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Jeff Mings
Yes, Brian, the first NTP pool address I listed is from ntp.pool.org, 
but it may be farther away /slower depending upon which server in the 
pool answers the query.


Al, I always appreciate your suggestions, but I noticed that the 
NASA NTP server is really not supposed to be publicly available:

http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000270
Strangely, the ntp.hawaii.edu server doesn't have a stratum rating, and 
I know that a few years ago, it oddly jumped forward to the year 2030:

http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer000453

In terms of ping time and likely long-term reliability, the NIST 
server in LA is looking like my best option : nist1-la.ustiming.org


Sincerely,
-Jeff



On 02/20/2014 12:52 PM, Brian Chee wrote:

Can't answer that, but Alan Whinery is behind it and it's providing NTP for
UHM ITS facilities. Have you thought of ntp.pool.org?

/brian chee



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:


That was fast!  You are SO on it, Mr. Chee!  :D

 Since you work with the UH IT dept., I'm not surprised you produced a
UH server.  Is this particular server _reliably_ deployed?  I.e., will it
likely be consistently available 5 years from now?  There are a lot of
devices, like phones, that I need to set a good NTP server on that I might
not check for several years.

Thanks Brian,
-Jeff

On 02/20/2014 12:44 PM, Brian Chee wrote:


ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
Address: 128.171.235.62


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

  Hi All!

  After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are
changing
their operation.

  I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for quite
some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.

  Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to
have
a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a
server
or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft NTP
servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice for
long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
times, and the NIST has a nice status page at http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
servers.cgi   for checking service.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks,

-Jeff


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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Al Plant

Brian Chee wrote:

Can't answer that, but Alan Whinery is behind it and it's providing NTP for
UHM ITS facilities. Have you thought of ntp.pool.org?


Aloha,

Its the pool that is the problem in NTP. There are old allowed services 
that have been removed from the new release and the vulnerable things 
removed. A rarely used  monitoring feature for instance.


AL




/brian chee



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:


That was fast!  You are SO on it, Mr. Chee!  :D

Since you work with the UH IT dept., I'm not surprised you produced a
UH server.  Is this particular server _reliably_ deployed?  I.e., will it
likely be consistently available 5 years from now?  There are a lot of
devices, like phones, that I need to set a good NTP server on that I might
not check for several years.

Thanks Brian,
-Jeff

On 02/20/2014 12:44 PM, Brian Chee wrote:


ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
Address: 128.171.235.62


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

 Hi All!

 After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are
changing
their operation.

 I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for quite
some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.

 Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to
have
a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a
server
or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft NTP
servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice for
long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
times, and the NIST has a nice status page at http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
servers.cgi   for checking service.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks,

-Jeff


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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Brian Chee
I have no idea what the UH policy is on this, but I use ntp1.hawaii.edu for
all kinds of things, and my secondary is ntp.pool.org

My next step is to build a stratum1 on my raspberry PI for my lab

/brian chee



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Al Plant  wrote:

> Brian Chee wrote:
>
>> ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
>> Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
>> Address: 128.171.235.62
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi All!
>>>
>>> After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are
>>> changing
>>> their operation.
>>>
>>> I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for quite
>>> some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.
>>>
>>> Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to have
>>> a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
>>> CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a
>>> server
>>> or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft NTP
>>> servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice for
>>> long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
>>> times, and the NIST has a nice status page at http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
>>> servers.cgi   for checking service.
>>>
>>> Any better suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Jeff
>>>
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>>  Aloha,
>
> The FreeBSD group has been sending out info on what to do and telling
> everyone to use military, or private instutions that are know to you.
> I had one old server hit. The only one I used the 1. 2. 3. pool ntp on.
>
> I manually use ntp.nasa.gov ( California) and sundial.columbia.edu (NYC)
> and  ntp.hawaii.edu  (HNL)
>
> Brian, could I use lntpl.hawaii.edu ?
>
> Thanks:
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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Al Plant

Brian Chee wrote:

ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
Address: 128.171.235.62


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:


Hi All!

After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are changing
their operation.

I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for quite
some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.

Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to have
a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a server
or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft NTP
servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice for
long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
times, and the NIST has a nice status page at http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
servers.cgi   for checking service.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks,

-Jeff


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Aloha,

The FreeBSD group has been sending out info on what to do and telling 
everyone to use military, or private instutions that are know to you.

I had one old server hit. The only one I used the 1. 2. 3. pool ntp on.

I manually use ntp.nasa.gov ( California) and sundial.columbia.edu (NYC) 
and  ntp.hawaii.edu  (HNL)


Brian, could I use lntpl.hawaii.edu ?

Thanks:

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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Brian Chee
Can't answer that, but Alan Whinery is behind it and it's providing NTP for
UHM ITS facilities. Have you thought of ntp.pool.org?

/brian chee



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

> That was fast!  You are SO on it, Mr. Chee!  :D
>
> Since you work with the UH IT dept., I'm not surprised you produced a
> UH server.  Is this particular server _reliably_ deployed?  I.e., will it
> likely be consistently available 5 years from now?  There are a lot of
> devices, like phones, that I need to set a good NTP server on that I might
> not check for several years.
>
> Thanks Brian,
> -Jeff
>
> On 02/20/2014 12:44 PM, Brian Chee wrote:
>
>> ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
>> Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
>> Address: 128.171.235.62
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi All!
>>>
>>>  After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are
>>> changing
>>> their operation.
>>>
>>>  I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for quite
>>> some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.
>>>
>>>  Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to
>>> have
>>> a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
>>> CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a
>>> server
>>> or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft NTP
>>> servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice for
>>> long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
>>> times, and the NIST has a nice status page at http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
>>> servers.cgi   for checking service.
>>>
>>> Any better suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Jeff
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Jeff Mings

That was fast!  You are SO on it, Mr. Chee!  :D

Since you work with the UH IT dept., I'm not surprised you produced 
a UH server.  Is this particular server _reliably_ deployed?  I.e., will 
it likely be consistently available 5 years from now?  There are a lot 
of devices, like phones, that I need to set a good NTP server on that I 
might not check for several years.


Thanks Brian,
-Jeff

On 02/20/2014 12:44 PM, Brian Chee wrote:

ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
Address: 128.171.235.62


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:


Hi All!

 After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are changing
their operation.

 I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for quite
some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.

 Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to have
a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a server
or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft NTP
servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice for
long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
times, and the NIST has a nice status page at http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
servers.cgi   for checking service.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks,

-Jeff


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Re: [LUAU] Favorite NTP server?

2014-02-20 Thread Brian Chee
ntp1.hawaii.edu canonical name = ntproundtop.hawaii.edu.
Name: ntproundtop.hawaii.edu
Address: 128.171.235.62


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Mings  wrote:

> Hi All!
>
> After the new NTP DOS vulnerability, a lot of NTP servers are changing
> their operation.
>
> I have used the navy's atomic clock at tick.mhpcc.hpc.mil for quite
> some time, but it appears that they may be reducing access to it now.
>
> Many of my clients use RoadRunner locally, which doesn't seem to have
> a publicly-listed NTP server in this area.  I could use the pool from
> CentOS, or even the one from Apple, but I want to make sure I use a server
> or pool of them that won't be overwhelmed/useless like the Microsoft NTP
> servers.  So far, using 0.us.pool.ntp.org  looks like a solid choice for
> long-term reliability, but nist1-la.ustiming.org yields better ping
> times, and the NIST has a nice status page at http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/
> servers.cgi   for checking service.
>
> Any better suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jeff
>
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