[Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip

I need to modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg in lubuntu that I've set up in usb drive.
But I found that it is not possible through lubuntu.
I had to boot up kubuntu to edit it.

What is the equivalent in Lubuntu for 'kdesudo kate' or 'gksudo gedit' ?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Andrew Woodhead
You do NOT edit the grub.cfg ile. That file is generated using config files
and scripts. You can edit the file but next time:
sudo update-grub
is ran the changes will be completely lost.

LXDE is a GTK based DE so 'gksudo leafpad' is what you  will need (you can
install gedit if you like but leafpad is a lot leaner and default in LXDE.

If you want your changes to grub.cfg to stick you must either:
1. *Never* upgrade the kernel  OR
2. Edit Grub2 the correct way so that grub updates get applied and your
changes stay

The grub.cfg file is marked as read only (even to root) and the file says
"Do not edit this file" for a reason. I suggest you read:
https://help.*ubuntu*.com/community/*Grub2*
*
*
*
*

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Goh Lip  wrote:

>
> I need to modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg in lubuntu that I've set up in usb
> drive.
> But I found that it is not possible through lubuntu.
> I had to boot up kubuntu to edit it.
>
> What is the equivalent in Lubuntu for 'kdesudo kate' or 'gksudo gedit' ?
>
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>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Glen Bizeau
or the graphical way

alt-f2

gksudo leafpad

Glen


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Glen Bizeau  wrote:
> Open lxterminal
>
> sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg
>
> Glen
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Goh Lip  wrote:
>>
>> I need to modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg in lubuntu that I've set up in usb 
>> drive.
>> But I found that it is not possible through lubuntu.
>> I had to boot up kubuntu to edit it.
>>
>> What is the equivalent in Lubuntu for 'kdesudo kate' or 'gksudo gedit' ?
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Glen Bizeau
Open lxterminal

sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Glen


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Goh Lip  wrote:
>
> I need to modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg in lubuntu that I've set up in usb drive.
> But I found that it is not possible through lubuntu.
> I had to boot up kubuntu to edit it.
>
> What is the equivalent in Lubuntu for 'kdesudo kate' or 'gksudo gedit' ?
>
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>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Can i recommend that you have a read of
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 if you want to learn about modifying
grub

Phill.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Glen Bizeau  wrote:

> or the graphical way
>
> alt-f2
>
> gksudo leafpad
>
> Glen
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Glen Bizeau  wrote:
> > Open lxterminal
> >
> > sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> >
> > Glen
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Goh Lip  wrote:
> >>
> >> I need to modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg in lubuntu that I've set up in usb
> drive.
> >> But I found that it is not possible through lubuntu.
> >> I had to boot up kubuntu to edit it.
> >>
> >> What is the equivalent in Lubuntu for 'kdesudo kate' or 'gksudo gedit' ?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards - Goh Lip
> >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:15:16 +0100
Andrew Woodhead  wrote:

> You do NOT edit the grub.cfg ile. That file is generated using config files
> and scripts. You can edit the file but next time:
> sudo update-grub
> is ran the changes will be completely lost.

Yes, I know. Understood.

> LXDE is a GTK based DE so 'gksudo leafpad' is what you  will need (you can
> install gedit if you like but leafpad is a lot leaner and default in LXDE.

Yes, I am new to LXDE, (I use Kubuntu mainly) and I should try to find out more 
about its commands first. Will google and learn more. Thanks for your feedback 
though.


> If you want your changes to grub.cfg to stick you must either:
> 1. *Never* upgrade the kernel  OR
> 2. Edit Grub2 the correct way so that grub updates get applied and your
> changes stay
> 
> The grub.cfg file is marked as read only (even to root) and the file says
> "Do not edit this file" for a reason. I suggest you read:
> https://help.*ubuntu*.com/community/*Grub2*

Andrew, besides setting a (previous) grub of hard drive to sda (mbr) and 
updating it for to include Lubuntu, I've also set grub to the usb thumb drive 
so that it is portable AND bootable from any computer (like what I've done for 
all my previous thumb drives, LILO/grub-legacy then though). However, the 
parameters are always wrong and needs to be corrected. (not peculiar to 
Lubuntu, happens to all); for example, booting from usb drives will always be 
(hd0,1) not what was specified (like (hd2,1) or (hd3,1)). and root=/dev/sda 
needs to be changed to root=/dev/sdc1 for example. Sometimes it will boot, (but 
not always) due to the specified UUID but I like to make sure it ALWAYS boot 
wherever the thumb drive is put. So I will modify the grub.cfg by the following 
method... 

At /etc/grub.d, make a new entry, say 08_mefirst as a custom entry and make it 
executable.
I put in the entry 

menuentry 'Lubuntu' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set c25a3c07-99ba-456a-b8f1-54aa427c2d87
linux   /vmlinuz root=UUID=c25a3c07-99ba-456a-b8f1-54aa427c2d87 ro   
quiet splash
initrd  /initrd.img
}

Note the (hd0,1) and that /vmlinuz is not the specified kernel number (so that 
it will always be the latest kernel).
I'll leave the 10_linux as is.
Then I'll do the update-grub or grub mk-config -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg.

Andrew, if you see anything wrong with this, will appreciate your feed back.
Thanks again.

Regards _ Goh Lip

ps: my hard drive grub (grub2) that is set to sda (mbr) is from a separate grub 
partition, OS- independent and similarly heavily modified and not affected by 
any kernel upgrade of any OS either. (nuke-proof)



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:02:47 -0300
Glen Bizeau  wrote:

> or the graphical way
> 
> alt-f2
> 
> gksudo leafpad


> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Glen Bizeau  wrote:
> > Open lxterminal
> >
> > sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Thanks, Glen and Andrew.  Got it. Thanks. (and that was fast!)

One side note here.
Lubuntu is definitely the best distro to set to a usb drive. I find Ubuntu (and 
Kubuntu) Netbook Remix to be not suitable for usb installation as the transfer 
speed from usb is far too slow to be any.er, fun. Puppy and dsl linux is 
too skeletal to be of any.. er, use. (try installing flash; fonts 
horrible). I used to carry dsl thumbs for my extensive travels some time back. 
(lab tops were too heavy then). Tried Lubuntu install to usb just to test. I am 
impressed. The choice of applications is good, with slypheed now with newsgroup 
capability. Kudos to the Lubuntu team. Great job.

Any possibility to 'port' the mailing list to gmane newsgroup? Would be very 
handy.

Andrew, I will reply to your post separately about modifying grub.cfg. 
Thanks for your input.

Regards and Thanks _ Goh Lip




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[Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip

This is also my first time using slypheed, noticed 2 areas that could improve.
o  The reply to mailing list sends to sender instead. (have to resend my 2 
previous messages).
o  When typing address, slypheed does not auto-fill; (nice feature to have, 
otherwise may type address wrongly).

Hope this input helps, (I am not complaining :)  )

Regards - Goh Lip

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Hardware Detection ?

2010-04-21 Thread Glen Bizeau
I installed Lubuntu and ubuntu 10.4B on the same laptop, Ubuntu 10B
detected and installed the hardware drivers for the system, Lubuntu
did not, even after I started Jockey manually, no HW detection.

Anyone else notice this?

Thanks

Glen

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:23:15 +0100
Phillip Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi, do you mind if i use your comment of lubuntu here -->
> forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=73  I always strip out the name of the
> person.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Phill.
> P.S. I love lubuntu as well :-)


Sure thing Phil, hope this helps.
I am mostly at Lubuntu now, (on the thumb drive!) though I have Kubuntu Hardy, 
Lucid on hard drive install.
awesome! 

Regards, take care - Goh Lip

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Nokel
2010/4/21 Goh Lip 

>
> This is also my first time using slypheed, noticed 2 areas that could
> improve.
> o  The reply to mailing list sends to sender instead. (have to resend my 2
> previous messages).
> o  When typing address, slypheed does not auto-fill; (nice feature to have,
> otherwise may type address wrongly).
>
> Hope this input helps, (I am not complaining :)  )
>
> Regards - Goh Lip
>

Instead of typing here about sylpheed you may see TODO-list designed for its
developers: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/todo.html
There are a lot of more features to improve/add than you specified. It is
not a problem of lubuntu team, by the way.

Regards,
Michael
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day

2010-04-21 Thread Luther Goh Lu Feng



>
>From: Phillip Whiteside 
>To: Julien Lavergne 
>Cc: lubuntu-desktop 
>Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 7:51:37 AM
>Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
>
>Yes, I know all the above is dead boring, but we're going to have n00bs hit 
>lubuntu & they are going to need their hands holding.
>
>I'm having a chat with a couple of people regarding how to make a minimal iso 
>with lubuntu on, but with the onset of 10.04 release they're a bit busy.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>Phill.

Hi Phillip,

Could you kindly elaborate what you meant by "minimal iso with lubuntu"? 



  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day

2010-04-21 Thread Luther Goh Lu Feng
My apologies. It seems that I have missed out some bits of the discussion as I 
comb through my mails from the newest to the oldest. Ignore my last mail.



- Original Message 
> From: Luther Goh Lu Feng 
> To: Phillip Whiteside ; Julien Lavergne 
> Cc: lubuntu-desktop 
> Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 11:45:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Documentation and the 'dreaded' day
> 
> 
> Hi  Phillip,

>Could you kindly elaborate what you meant by "minimal iso with 
> lubuntu"? 


  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:43:07 +0400
Mike Nokel  wrote:



> Instead of typing here about sylpheed you may see TODO-list designed for its
> developers: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/todo.html
> There are a lot of more features to improve/add than you specified. It is
> not a problem of lubuntu team, by the way.

Okay, will do, understood. Thanks for the link.

Regards _ Goh Lip
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:50:01 +0800
Goh Lip  wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:43:07 +0400
> Mike Nokel  wrote:

> > Instead of typing here about sylpheed you may see TODO-list designed for its
> > developers: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/todo.html
> > There are a lot of more features to improve/add than you specified. It is
> > not a problem of lubuntu team, by the way.
> 
> Okay, will do, understood. Thanks for the link.

I did not see the 2 issues on the ToDo list, so I've registered and sent 
message on mailing list.
Is there a bug-report for Slypheed I should send to instead? 
Also, is it just me or are you also having these problems too? If it is just 
me, I don't mind reinstalling slypheed.
ps: I don't read japanese.

Regards _ Goh Lip

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed

2010-04-21 Thread 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna
Sylpheed does autocompletion, it's a bit hard to find, but it reminds me a 
terminal behaviour:

- Put the cursor at address field
- Type the three first letters of your contact
- Now press TAB and a list will be displayed for choosing
- Select one and press ENTER, that's it

Easy and funny, eh? I recognise that it's a bit different from Evolution.










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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip


> 
> I did not see the 2 issues on the ToDo list, so I've registered and sent 
> message on mailing list.
> Is there a bug-report for Slypheed I should send to instead? 
> Also, is it just me or are you also having these problems too? If it is just 
> me, I don't mind reinstalling slypheed.
> ps: I don't read japanese.

I restarted slypheed and Voila!, the 'reply to mailing list' now works.
Sorry for the noise, guys, should teach me not to go 'shooting off the hip' and 
need to recheck and verify first.

Apologies to all.
Regards - Goh Lip
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:53:31 +0200
神癒礁湖  ·  Rafael Laguna  wrote:

> Sylpheed does autocompletion, it's a bit hard to find, but it reminds me a 
> terminal behaviour:
> 
> - Put the cursor at address field
> - Type the three first letters of your contact
> - Now press TAB and a list will be displayed for choosing
> - Select one and press ENTER, that's it
> 
> Easy and funny, eh? I recognise that it's a bit different from Evolution.

Yes, you're right! It works that way.
Again, sorry for the noise.
Thanks for pointing this out.

Regards Goh Lip

ps: but now, I've to "reply to all" to get the lubuntu mailing list on it.  :(



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed

2010-04-21 Thread Goh Lip
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:20:14 +0800
Goh Lip  wrote:



> ps: but now, I've to "reply to all" to get the lubuntu mailing list on it.  :(

I noticed that when there is an attachment, usually of a html nature, the 
"reply to mailing list' will be sent to the sender and not to the mailing list.
However, if the sender uses only plain text, then 'send to mailing list' will 
work.

Just need to watch out for it.

Regards - Goh Lip

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wiki reorganisation

2010-04-21 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi,

1) is the removal of how to update lubuntu a wise choice as there is not yet
a option in menus to do it
2) does lubuntu still need 9.10 instructions koala is so 'last year' and
would just confuse n00bs

As i requested earlier, can we all post up our various documents for the
project into one place. I think that the wiki page is the best place for
them as it should be the 'one-stop shop' for everything lubuntu, even if it
does have external links  (I have seen wiki pages linking to non-*buntu
pages) such as
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStickQuick

Regards,
.
Phill


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Today I tried to reorganize a bit the wiki, by splitting the main page
> into several pages, and adding a Header for quick access.
>
> I also don't think the principe of "Teams" is not appropriate for now,
> we have not many contributors, but each team page could be a good
> category for contributing.
>
> You can see the result here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu_Draft It's
> just a quick draft, not all pages are updated.
>
> What do you think ?
>
> I also plan to update the documentation before the release, it's
> important to have up-to-date docs before the release :)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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