Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:59:06 +0200 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: I created a Install CD by simply creating a minimal install CD plus a repo. Unfortunetly the Installation fails after installing the base system, because it tries to install a package called lubuntu-desktop^ in the tasksel process which it cant find. I tried this with the modified tasksel version of yours. I even checked the modification you made but cant find the error. I'm not sure I made the correct fix for tasksel, it probably needs another fix somewhere. But I interesting to know how you made the initial CD, because I only find how doing an iso with squash filesystem, but not with .deb packages. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install.
Am 18.10.2010 15:25, schrieb Julien Lavergne: On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:59:06 +0200 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: I created a Install CD by simply creating a minimal install CD plus a repo. Unfortunetly the Installation fails after installing the base system, because it tries to install a package called lubuntu-desktop^ in the tasksel process which it cant find. I tried this with the modified tasksel version of yours. I even checked the modification you made but cant find the error. I'm not sure I made the correct fix for tasksel, it probably needs another fix somewhere. But I interesting to know how you made the initial CD, because I only find how doing an iso with squash filesystem, but not with .deb packages. Ok I see it wasn't quite the right fixes you made as the last line in lubuntu-desktop from the ubuntu-tasks folder contains Packages: task-fields This would as far as I understand connect to the ubuntu server and search for a corresponding task. But there isn't one. Packages: list lubuntu-desktop works much better and fixes the error I got before. To create the CD I basically took the xubuntu alternate cd. Then I copied over the whole ISO and put it into one directory(lets call it cd-img). Replaced the isolinux folder with the fancy isolinux folder from the livecd with the cool looking logo png and where you can set language with F2 and with F3 the keymap and so on. The first thing that I did afterwards was taking the xubuntu.preseed file that ships with the xubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso and changing it basically from xubuntu-desktop to lubuntu-desktop(I know there is a lubuntu.seed file on the live cd but I took the one from the other alternate cds as they were more entries and I didn't want to mess ups things). Then I put this preseed file back to my copy of the minimal install cd(so the cd-img folder) into the preseed folder. I did change the txt.cfg file in isolinux so that the default option would boot with the preseed file option of the lubuntu.seed . Then the little bit more tricky part create a repository. For creating this repository I know that I need every package that needs to be installed when installing lubuntu-desktop. Every means every , so also xorg and those other stuffs. As I had a Minimal Install ISO aswell I simply created a minimal installed cli only system in virtualbox and apt-get install(ed) lubuntu-desktop. All the required deb files are stored in /var/cache/apt/. The only thing to do now is getting those deb files outside the virtual machine. Then there is a cool package called apt-move which is pretty handy as it can automatically copy or move those deb files in a repository like hierarchical folder view. So it will create automatically the structure of a repository that you need, by putting in lubuntu-desktop for example in a pool/l/lubuntu-meta/lubuntu-desktop_xXX-i386.deb file/folder structure. By default this repository structure will be put into /mirrors/debian so you need root right to run apt-move. But I guess the default folder is changeable I just was to lazy to read the manpage ;) Then we copy over the pool directory to the cd-img folder. Again me as being lazy I didn't overwrite all the packages that where already in the xubuntu pool directory (they can be deleted later I guess or you can delete the whole pool directory with the exception of the udeb files. So 'find . -name *.udeb' and copy over all udeb files as they are necessary for the installer). Then we have the pool directory almost ready. I had to repackage the ubuntu-keyring package as I don't have the private key to sign the cd and the new repository with official ubuntu keyring. So I downloaded the keyring and added my own private key to it. This step is really important because otherwise the installer won't install if the repo isn't signed. So I repackaged this package and put it into the pool structure unter u/ubuntu-keyring I think it was. That should be all for the pool directory. Basically we need the Release and Packages.gz file for the repository now and sign it. So I created a release.conf file ( storing the basic info like distro name , codename and main + universe repos) and a config file you can see here to get an Idea how it works: http://pastebin.ca/1965874 This is basically the file that will scan the pool files and create the Packages.gz for each repo (means main and universe). As you can see here you need also some override files that you can get from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/indices As the above config file will only create a package listing for debs I created also a config which scans all the udebs. Here is the config: http://pastebin.ca/1965876 As you can see I basically only replaced the deb with udeb :) Now we have all the config files lets build the packages and release files with: apt-ftparchive -c /path/to/release.conf generate ../apt-ftparchive/apt-ftparchive-deb.conf apt-ftparchive -c
[Lubuntu-desktop] Bluetooth?
I am using Lubuntu desktop on a dell mini 9 that has bluetooth. I have installed blueman (which I remember isnatlled most or all of the bluez stuff) and the bluetooth. It works..but if you turn it off the adapter goes away. I see the BT manager in preferences, click on it and bluez daemon failed to start error. Only way to turn it back on is to reboot and click the icon thats off as soon as it boots into your user and hit Turn on Bluetooth. Is there a fix for this? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] 10.10 user observations
Hi, Just my user experience w/10.10. The install did not see my XP ntfs partition and Grub just listed Lubuntu. All distros I've tried always see it and list it in Grub or Lilo, but Lubuntu 10.10 installed from the iso didn't. I fixed it so no problem now. But someone who didn't do the homework on how to manually edit Grub would be freaking out - where did my windows go maybe. When I right click and add an app to the desktop as a launcher there was a problem. Say I add Seamonkey as a launcher. I click the launcher icon and the terminal and seamonkey will open. This happened a lot - I'd add a launcher and click the icon and the terminal or leafpad or the file manager would open a window in addition to the app the launcher was made for. So I don't use desktop launcher though I'd like to... Other than that it's fast, clean, and stable and my favorite distro easily. Great job totally! -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu.net
Hiyas, I have a serious concern. Above named site is pointing people to a server instead of a torrent link. I have no contact information for them, but as we're desperately trying to tell people to use the torrents, it is a bit of kick in the teeth if they're not also doing the same thing. My obvious concern is that we could loose the primary / secondary server. If someone who has contact details could point them over to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Get Lubuntu for instructions. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Padawans
Hiyas gang, Not a complaint for a change ;) As a part of my general activity in the ubuntu areas and for the good will I receive from all I encounter, a few lubunteers were fed a few cookies and have agreed to become padawans on the the ubuntu beginners team. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam I'd like to put on record to the whole team that having such people helping out on #lubuntu and joining the wider community can do nothing but good for Lubuntu. As I'm about as subtle as punch in the face they are: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bioterror https://wiki.ubuntu.com/frittexxx https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mossyfunk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris The people they have been twinned with can be found over at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Structure They have been warmly welcomed by their mentors, if you spot the work they do on the channel please put in a testimonial for them. In exchange I got one who would like to learn more about lubuntu. If you'd like to know about them, hang about on #lubuntu-offtopic. If there are any other lubunteers who would like a mentor to further their knowledge or help out on the family that we all belong to, please do give me a nudge. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Update Manager
Hiyas Julien... Not sure where to file this bug the below explains the problem.. (04:13:44) hungtran: hello, anyone here has tried lubuntu with a 128MB RAM machine? (04:16:39) phillw: hungtran: yeah many have (04:17:28) phillw: installing it off the normal cd will not work on such a machine though. (04:19:18) phillw: hungtran: you will need to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall (04:20:24) hungtran: phillw: oh thanks I know it, I just want to be sure that we could run Lubuntu on machines like that (04:21:47) phillw: hungtran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Intended%20Audience and the team are resolute that it will remain the case. (04:24:04) hungtran: phillw: in 10.10 update manager uses much memory, is it safe if I remove it? (04:24:24) phillw: yes, quite safe (04:25:16) phillw: you can manually update if you want, but lubuntu does not issue releases every two days like some do :) (04:27:31) phillw: if you use the mini-iso it installs without auto-updates turned on. (04:28:06) hungtran: phillw: yeah, I don't think put update manager in lubuntu is a good idea, my old laptop runs 10.10 a bit slower than 10.04, but I think that because i'm familiar with terminal and linux, some new Linux users could like update manager :) (04:28:43) hungtran: phillw: yes, I use mini-iso but update manager is still running and uses about 10MB RAM :( (04:29:18) phillw: it's always a hard call to make; we want lubuntu to be user friendly, but with that comes an overhead. (04:30:15) phillw: you can remove it, and get that precious 10MB of RAM back. (04:32:34) hungtran: phillw: do you know about translation process? lubuntu team updates new translation or lxde team does? Vietnamese translation is almost done now but I can't see it in 10.10 (04:32:41) phillw: Step 9 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall says to leave it off? Are you saying it is being turned back on ? (04:33:26) hungtran: phillw: yes I always turn it off, it's like my habit now :), I always update ubuntu and lubuntu in terminal (04:34:00) phillw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Translations has details on translation projects. (04:34:16) hungtran: phillw: i think it auto update is off but update manager is on, it runs but I think I do nothing (04:34:30) hungtran: hungtran phillw: i think it auto update is off but update manager is on, it runs but I think it does nothing (04:34:42) phillw: hungtran: I will file a bug for you. (04:35:20) hungtran: phillw: oh thanks (04:35:44) phillw: lubuntu should not be using up 10MB of your RAM for a useless process. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Update Manager
An update (04:58:31) hungtran: phillw: uh oh, I misunderstand, what uses 10 MB RAM is update-notifier not update-manager, update-notifier runs automatically in the background and update-manager is just a gtk application Sorry, Phill. On 19 October 2010 04:40, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hiyas Julien... Not sure where to file this bug the below explains the problem.. (04:13:44) hungtran: hello, anyone here has tried lubuntu with a 128MB RAM machine? (04:16:39) phillw: hungtran: yeah many have (04:17:28) phillw: installing it off the normal cd will not work on such a machine though. (04:19:18) phillw: hungtran: you will need to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall (04:20:24) hungtran: phillw: oh thanks I know it, I just want to be sure that we could run Lubuntu on machines like that (04:21:47) phillw: hungtran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Intended%20Audience and the team are resolute that it will remain the case. (04:24:04) hungtran: phillw: in 10.10 update manager uses much memory, is it safe if I remove it? (04:24:24) phillw: yes, quite safe (04:25:16) phillw: you can manually update if you want, but lubuntu does not issue releases every two days like some do :) (04:27:31) phillw: if you use the mini-iso it installs without auto-updates turned on. (04:28:06) hungtran: phillw: yeah, I don't think put update manager in lubuntu is a good idea, my old laptop runs 10.10 a bit slower than 10.04, but I think that because i'm familiar with terminal and linux, some new Linux users could like update manager :) (04:28:43) hungtran: phillw: yes, I use mini-iso but update manager is still running and uses about 10MB RAM :( (04:29:18) phillw: it's always a hard call to make; we want lubuntu to be user friendly, but with that comes an overhead. (04:30:15) phillw: you can remove it, and get that precious 10MB of RAM back. (04:32:34) hungtran: phillw: do you know about translation process? lubuntu team updates new translation or lxde team does? Vietnamese translation is almost done now but I can't see it in 10.10 (04:32:41) phillw: Step 9 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall says to leave it off? Are you saying it is being turned back on ? (04:33:26) hungtran: phillw: yes I always turn it off, it's like my habit now :), I always update ubuntu and lubuntu in terminal (04:34:00) phillw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Translations has details on translation projects. (04:34:16) hungtran: phillw: i think it auto update is off but update manager is on, it runs but I think I do nothing (04:34:30) hungtran: hungtran phillw: i think it auto update is off but update manager is on, it runs but I think it does nothing (04:34:42) phillw: hungtran: I will file a bug for you. (04:35:20) hungtran: phillw: oh thanks (04:35:44) phillw: lubuntu should not be using up 10MB of your RAM for a useless process. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
