Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Extend desktop across dual monitors -- a feature I would like to see in Lubuntu 12.xx

2011-10-08 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 10/07/2011 06:13 AM, PCMan a écrit :
 For the desktop panel:
 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately
 2. one panel exending to the external monitor
 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one
 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most
 important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the
 external monitor
 5. Other possibilities...
  
 For the desktop icons manager, options are:
 1. icons on main monitor only.
 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then
 how to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is
 disconnected?)
 3. others...
  
 For wallpaper:
 1. one wallpaper per monitor
 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors
 3. others...
I think it's a good idea to collect usages of dual monitor users first.

For example, I use dual monitors on a desktop computer like this :
- I have one main screen, where I mainly works and stay focus on it.
- I expect to have on this main screen the panel and the icons
- I doesn't matter where is the wallpaper :)
- I don't plan to plug and unplug my monitors :)

But, when you use it as a laptop user, it's probably different
(presentation, frequently plug and unplug ...).

Regards,
Julien


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release

2011-10-08 Thread Phill Whiteside
Ali,

we need testing on completely new install - not an upgrade. New people will
not be using zsync... they will be using the iso. At this time of year
(release time) the servers get hammered. Too many people, too few servers.
It is for this reason we beg people to use the torrents and be seeders;
every seeder makes a difference for the better.

I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using:

 zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.co20111007/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso.zsync


 But it always gets stuck some where like:

 #--- 7.1% 0.9 kBps
 #--- 7.1% 41.5 kBps 264:02 ETA  ^C

 ##-- 13.6% 8.1 kBps ETA
 ##-- 14.4% 4.8 kBps ETA
 ##-- 14.5% 106.3 kBps 93:26 ETA  ^C

  21.9% 8.3 kBps ETA
  22.1% 5.0 kBps ETA
  22.5% 1.8 kBps ETA
 ^C

 and as you can see, I have to press Ctrl+C to end it and start over again.

 I thought it will be must faster than downloading 666MB but apparently,
 it's not :(





 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  Hi,

 Just a reminder, the release of Lubuntu 11.10 is planned on Thurday :)

 Pre-release images are available for testing on
 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/

 Pleas use the tracker to report of failed or successful installation and
 testing. We probably not be able to include many fixes in the ISO itself.
 But if we found bugs fixable, we can add them to the post-release updates.

 I maintain the list of current known bugs here :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#ISO_Testing_Bugs
 I'll mention the most annoying ones on the release note. Let me know if
 other bugs should be in.

 We are close to the release, just a bit of more effort, and we can
 celebrate it :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release

2011-10-08 Thread Ali Linx
Hello Phill,

Sure thing. I just founded it (zsync) so interesting to try, thus I tired it
but it was so slow and I understand now why is that.

Yes, I always think that seeding and using torrent is much better but as you
said, we are begging people to use that but we can't force them, apparently.

This is the page I found: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6772
However, I can't see any torrent here.

I stopped the upgrade (zsync) and will go for downloading and as usual, will
do that on my both test PCs.



I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
 new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
 working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )


Sorry, I did not get that?


On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Ali,

 we need testing on completely new install - not an upgrade. New people will
 not be using zsync... they will be using the iso. At this time of year
 (release time) the servers get hammered. Too many people, too few servers.
 It is for this reason we beg people to use the torrents and be seeders;
 every seeder makes a difference for the better.

 I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
 new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
 working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using:

 zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.co20111007/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso.zsync


 But it always gets stuck some where like:

 #--- 7.1% 0.9 kBps
 #--- 7.1% 41.5 kBps 264:02 ETA  ^C

 ##-- 13.6% 8.1 kBps ETA
 ##-- 14.4% 4.8 kBps ETA
 ##-- 14.5% 106.3 kBps 93:26 ETA  ^C

  21.9% 8.3 kBps ETA
  22.1% 5.0 kBps ETA
  22.5% 1.8 kBps ETA
 ^C

 and as you can see, I have to press Ctrl+C to end it and start over again.

 I thought it will be must faster than downloading 666MB but apparently,
 it's not :(





 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  Hi,

 Just a reminder, the release of Lubuntu 11.10 is planned on Thurday :)

 Pre-release images are available for testing on
 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/

 Pleas use the tracker to report of failed or successful installation and
 testing. We probably not be able to include many fixes in the ISO itself.
 But if we found bugs fixable, we can add them to the post-release updates.

 I maintain the list of current known bugs here :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#ISO_Testing_Bugs
 I'll mention the most annoying ones on the release note. Let me know if
 other bugs should be in.

 We are close to the release, just a bit of more effort, and we can
 celebrate it :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release

2011-10-08 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Ali,

you will not see pre-release versions on torrents. The final QA testing is
the most critical part. It is when the few say that it is ready for the
many. After that all the fireworks start. Doing installs of QA releases is a
lot more important than people realise. I'm happy that you are going to try
the QA version. As Julien said, if you have a bug SHOUT (But please
do check the known ones before you raise a new one).

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello Phill,

 Sure thing. I just founded it (zsync) so interesting to try, thus I tired
 it but it was so slow and I understand now why is that.

 Yes, I always think that seeding and using torrent is much better but as
 you said, we are begging people to use that but we can't force them,
 apparently.

 This is the page I found: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6772
 However, I can't see any torrent here.

 I stopped the upgrade (zsync) and will go for downloading and as usual,
 will do that on my both test PCs.



 I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
 new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
 working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )


 Sorry, I did not get that?


 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Ali,

 we need testing on completely new install - not an upgrade. New people
 will not be using zsync... they will be using the iso. At this time of year
 (release time) the servers get hammered. Too many people, too few servers.
 It is for this reason we beg people to use the torrents and be seeders;
 every seeder makes a difference for the better.

 I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
 new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
 working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using:

 zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.co20111007/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso.zsync


 But it always gets stuck some where like:

 #--- 7.1% 0.9 kBps
 #--- 7.1% 41.5 kBps 264:02 ETA  ^C

 ##-- 13.6% 8.1 kBps ETA
 ##-- 14.4% 4.8 kBps ETA
 ##-- 14.5% 106.3 kBps 93:26 ETA  ^C

  21.9% 8.3 kBps ETA
  22.1% 5.0 kBps ETA
  22.5% 1.8 kBps ETA
 ^C

 and as you can see, I have to press Ctrl+C to end it and start over
 again.

 I thought it will be must faster than downloading 666MB but apparently,
 it's not :(





 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote:

  Hi,

 Just a reminder, the release of Lubuntu 11.10 is planned on Thurday :)

 Pre-release images are available for testing on
 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/

 Pleas use the tracker to report of failed or successful installation and
 testing. We probably not be able to include many fixes in the ISO itself.
 But if we found bugs fixable, we can add them to the post-release updates.

 I maintain the list of current known bugs here :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#ISO_Testing_Bugs
 I'll mention the most annoying ones on the release note. Let me know if
 other bugs should be in.

 We are close to the release, just a bit of more effort, and we can
 celebrate it :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release

2011-10-08 Thread Ali Linx
Hello Phill,

Understood and I expected that but I had to check so thanks :)

You know I'm up to anything that will help us to be better and better. I
understand TIME is one of the hardest challenges we do have but that's not
a problem at all :)
I'm so much positive that we'll rock the world ... few more days to prove
that.

Sure, I'll check before shouting so no worries :)

Thanks!


On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi Ali,

 you will not see pre-release versions on torrents. The final QA testing is
 the most critical part. It is when the few say that it is ready for the
 many. After that all the fireworks start. Doing installs of QA releases is a
 lot more important than people realise. I'm happy that you are going to try
 the QA version. As Julien said, if you have a bug SHOUT (But please
 do check the known ones before you raise a new one).

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello Phill,

 Sure thing. I just founded it (zsync) so interesting to try, thus I tired
 it but it was so slow and I understand now why is that.

 Yes, I always think that seeding and using torrent is much better but as
 you said, we are begging people to use that but we can't force them,
 apparently.

 This is the page I found: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6772
 However, I can't see any torrent here.

 I stopped the upgrade (zsync) and will go for downloading and as usual,
 will do that on my both test PCs.



 I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
 new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
 working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )


 Sorry, I did not get that?


 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Ali,

 we need testing on completely new install - not an upgrade. New people
 will not be using zsync... they will be using the iso. At this time of year
 (release time) the servers get hammered. Too many people, too few servers.
 It is for this reason we beg people to use the torrents and be seeders;
 every seeder makes a difference for the better.

 I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
 new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
 working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using:

 zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.co20111007/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso.zsync


 But it always gets stuck some where like:

 #--- 7.1% 0.9 kBps
 #--- 7.1% 41.5 kBps 264:02 ETA  ^C

 ##-- 13.6% 8.1 kBps ETA
 ##-- 14.4% 4.8 kBps ETA
 ##-- 14.5% 106.3 kBps 93:26 ETA  ^C

  21.9% 8.3 kBps ETA
  22.1% 5.0 kBps ETA
  22.5% 1.8 kBps ETA
 ^C

 and as you can see, I have to press Ctrl+C to end it and start over
 again.

 I thought it will be must faster than downloading 666MB but apparently,
 it's not :(





 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote:

  Hi,

 Just a reminder, the release of Lubuntu 11.10 is planned on Thurday :)

 Pre-release images are available for testing on
 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/

 Pleas use the tracker to report of failed or successful installation
 and testing. We probably not be able to include many fixes in the ISO
 itself. But if we found bugs fixable, we can add them to the post-release
 updates.

 I maintain the list of current known bugs here :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#ISO_Testing_Bugs
 I'll mention the most annoying ones on the release note. Let me know if
 other bugs should be in.

 We are close to the release, just a bit of more effort, and we can
 celebrate it :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

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