Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPC

2011-11-04 Thread

On 11/4/11 8:46 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote:

On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 08:24:57 -0700
∅  wrote:

At the time I wrote to the list, the only available PPC ISO was an old
daily, NOT the most current. Also, there still has never been an
official release build of Oneiric. At this time, I see 12.04 in the
dailies. So I'd be happy to test that but I'd like to write instructions
for Oneiric. Any chance of getting an official release build?

What do you mean by old ? If it's around October 10, it's the last daily build 
of Oneiric, so the most up-to-date you can have for 11.10. It's not possible to 
have an official release for Oneiric, you can only try to use the last ISO.
That's about right. Unfortunately, it's gone now, so I can't check it. 
Which makes me wonder about the utility of even having instructions 
made. Sigh. Maybe that's what Phill meant about hosting? Perhaps I can 
do a remaster. As long as someone can host it!

For 12.04, you can test dailies later (it's not useful right now, it's too 
early in the cycle). It's more important to test ISO before developement 
release (Alpha, Beta ...).
Just say the word. I will happily help in any way I can in regards to 
PPC usage. That being said, I'm refurbishing a ThinkPad R60 so it looks 
like I might actually have an official Lubuntu with official support for 
once ;)


wxl/walter

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-04 Thread Michael Rawson
A suggestion; (although you may or may not think it's acceptable-as mentioned, 
your baby, I respect.)
Perhaps you could leave the thread as-is and any helpful post/articles could be 
incorproted into the wiki? I see this as a good way to generate loads of wiki 
pages at relatively little effort and/or inspiration.

And it's a brilliant idea, the LOST. :) 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPC

2011-11-04 Thread Julien Lavergne
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 08:24:57 -0700
∅  wrote:

> At the time I wrote to the list, the only available PPC ISO was an old 
> daily, NOT the most current. Also, there still has never been an 
> official release build of Oneiric. At this time, I see 12.04 in the 
> dailies. So I'd be happy to test that but I'd like to write instructions 
> for Oneiric. Any chance of getting an official release build?
What do you mean by old ? If it's around October 10, it's the last daily build 
of Oneiric, so the most up-to-date you can have for 11.10. It's not possible to 
have an official release for Oneiric, you can only try to use the last ISO.

For 12.04, you can test dailies later (it's not useful right now, it's too 
early in the cycle). It's more important to test ISO before developement 
release (Alpha, Beta ...).

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPC

2011-11-04 Thread
At the time I wrote to the list, the only available PPC ISO was an old 
daily, NOT the most current. Also, there still has never been an 
official release build of Oneiric. At this time, I see 12.04 in the 
dailies. So I'd be happy to test that but I'd like to write instructions 
for Oneiric. Any chance of getting an official release build?


wxl/Walter

On 11/4/11 7:47 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for the delay.
I didn't understand if you tested the last PPC ISO from daily build or not ? If 
it's working, it can be considered as an unofficial ISO.
Also, it's possible to make it official for 12.04, but we need people available 
to test Alpha and Beta ISO, during ISO testing process.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:21:13 -0700
∅  wrote:


Before I invest much more time in it, what say you, Julien?

On 11/1/11 8:18 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

I have no problems mentioning it as a community build, but Julien ıs
better placed to check if it would cause problems on our 'Get Lubuntu'
page.

Regards,

Phillw



On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM,mailto:maps.backw...@gmail.com>>  wrote:

 i know we've talked briefly about deferring any ppc builds but i
 was hoping (if not for any other reason, but to help further
 development of the unofficial and unsupported port) to post up on
 the wiki my methodology to install and get current using the most
 current ppc build at
 http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111011/.

 all in favor, say aye. all against, nay.

 if worse comes to worst and we'd rather not suggest ppc on the
 wiki, then i can always throw something on ubuntu forums but i
 personally tend to give more weight to the wiki than the forums.

 i'll add that i've been running mintppc as well and it is
 fantastic out of the box-- even better than debian ppc. i'm hoping
 to hack into the config files and see what's under the hood and
 see if i can't re-create it. possibly i might even be able to
 create an unattend file (mintppc install involves booting the
 debian netboot cd and issuing "auto url=mintppc.org
 " at the yaboot prompt) to make things even
 easier. if anyone's interested at least!

 lastly, is there anything i can do to help with the ppc builds?
 despite canonical's lack of support for ppc, it is the perfect
 platform for a lightweight linux like lubuntu, so i'm motivated to
 help make it happen.

 wxl/walter

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: End of support for Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Netbook and ARM - 2011/10/29

2011-11-04 Thread Julien Lavergne
No, but you probably noticed that the backporting was quite slow recently.
Also, pcmanfm is still broken using the backports, so the situation is not 
really good right now :(

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:20:36 +0200
Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> does this affect our backporting of stuff to the 10.04 release?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
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> Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM
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> 
> 
> Ubuntu announced the 10.04 Netbook Edition and Ubuntu for ARM products
> 18 months ago, on April 29, 2010.   At that time, Ubuntu committed to
> ongoing security and critical fixes for a period of 18 months for these
> specific products.
> 
> This support period is now ending, and on October 29, 2011 the 10.04
> Netbook Edition and Ubuntu for ARM products will no longer be supported.
> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop and Server products continue to be supported.
> 
> The upgrade path from Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook and ARM is to Ubuntu 10.10.
> Instructions and caveats for the upgrade may be found at
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades.
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPC

2011-11-04 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

Sorry for the delay.
I didn't understand if you tested the last PPC ISO from daily build or not ? If 
it's working, it can be considered as an unofficial ISO.
Also, it's possible to make it official for 12.04, but we need people available 
to test Alpha and Beta ISO, during ISO testing process.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:21:13 -0700
∅  wrote:

> Before I invest much more time in it, what say you, Julien?
> 
> On 11/1/11 8:18 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> > I have no problems mentioning it as a community build, but Julien ıs 
> > better placed to check if it would cause problems on our 'Get Lubuntu' 
> > page.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phillw
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM,  > > wrote:
> >
> > i know we've talked briefly about deferring any ppc builds but i
> > was hoping (if not for any other reason, but to help further
> > development of the unofficial and unsupported port) to post up on
> > the wiki my methodology to install and get current using the most
> > current ppc build at
> > http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111011/.
> >
> > all in favor, say aye. all against, nay.
> >
> > if worse comes to worst and we'd rather not suggest ppc on the
> > wiki, then i can always throw something on ubuntu forums but i
> > personally tend to give more weight to the wiki than the forums.
> >
> > i'll add that i've been running mintppc as well and it is
> > fantastic out of the box-- even better than debian ppc. i'm hoping
> > to hack into the config files and see what's under the hood and
> > see if i can't re-create it. possibly i might even be able to
> > create an unattend file (mintppc install involves booting the
> > debian netboot cd and issuing "auto url=mintppc.org
> > " at the yaboot prompt) to make things even
> > easier. if anyone's interested at least!
> >
> > lastly, is there anything i can do to help with the ppc builds?
> > despite canonical's lack of support for ppc, it is the perfect
> > platform for a lightweight linux like lubuntu, so i'm motivated to
> > help make it happen.
> >
> > wxl/walter
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-04 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

I don't think all the sources are incompatible.
I'm agree that wiki should be the knowledge base, and the reference for all the 
documentation. However, having a forum thread for a bookmark purpose and 
chatting is also useful, as long as it points to wiki pages, and people are 
encourage to contribute to the wiki. Having useful answer or info in a post 
will be lost if nobody "save" it on the wiki.
Even Askubuntu can be used, with some links to the wiki also.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:57:03 +0400
Ali Linx  wrote:

> Note: This is for everyone so lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net :)
> 
> Dear ALL,
> 
> First thing I've been told when I joined back in August is to learn how to
> be patient so please, be patient :)
> 
> Appearances could be deceiving ;)
> One Stop Thread has started as 2 HOWTOs for Lubuntu, that's all. I then
> figured out that Lubuntu Users need something a little bit beyond so there
> came One Stop Thread. After my thread became sticky, that motivated me even
> more to go beyond but I'm just waiting the right moment as I have huge
> personal issues on real life that I must deal with it before anything else
> but I'm actually ignoring and focusing on the best thing I love to do in
> life, that is Linux.
> 
> What am I talking about?
> One Stop Thread is just the first step towards something bigger and much
> more useful.
> Last night, I made a banner using Photoshop (sorry, can't use GIMP at the
> moment - I'm faster on Photoshop) and I made it for a purpose. If you will
> have a look, you'll understand the whole point of having One Stop Thread
> and the real primary purpose of it :)
> 
> Check : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755
> You'll see the banner at the very beginning :)
> 
> I'm trying to see the reactions of people and so far, they loved it. Then,
> I'm going to improve it on daily basis. Then, I'm going even beyond that
> but again, please be patient.
> 
> However, I DO REALLY REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE all what you have mentioned
> and I'll take that into consideration. One thing that you guys need to know
> is, One Stop Thread is NOT meant to be a place where people start posting
> about their problems and expect an answer. I know this is what is happening
> right now but if you notice, these are general questions. Above all, I can
> NOT ask people NOT to post over there because that is against the real
> purpose of my thread. However, what I can do is to keep it simple and short
> and organized as much as possible and I do have some plans for that but
> again, wait please :)
> 
> I found myself helpful more on the forum. This is what I've been doing for
> a year even before joining Lubuntu Team so I'll carry on with that :)
> I also founded very interesting to update the Wiki Area and keep it up to
> date. However, the real question is: Do you guys want the Wiki Pages to be
> our Primary Source of Information? be careful because that means the Wiki
> Area will be much bigger than what it looks like now.
> If you have a plan to make it as good as Arch Wiki (which has almost
> everything about Arch) then I'm more than ready but ... I'm doing many
> other things like Forum, Testing, etc etc and I don't want to lose my focus
> on that. More people must be involved on the Wiki Pages IMHO.
> 
> For me, Forum is much easier to maintain and then I update the Wiki
> Pages accordingly.
> Also, Traffic on Forum is much more.
> Above all, I don't really feel comfortable when I browse our Wiki because I
> feel there is something missing. I think the whole thing needs to be
> reviewed and re-organized. IMHO of course.
> 
> Another thing is: www.lubuntu.net must be back to action again. I see NO
> POINT of re-directing the page to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
> 
> I have asked before if I can update it and I've been told that this access
> can't be given to new people. Understood. But someone must take the
> responsibility and focus on our website. As a user, I don't feel happy when
> the page re-direct to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
> 
> You see I have tons of ideas but I'm not sure yet when to discuss all that?
> I'm still doing that here on the mailing list but I guess we need some
> other place.
> 
> In the mean time, I prefer to focus on what I'm doing and not to do many
> things at one time.
> 
> I'm really glad to get all these replies from you, that means a lot to me,
> seriously :)
> I promise that I'll do my best to provide the best to everyone in this
> community and one thing you need to know about me is that when I go extra
> miles, I really go EXTRA MILES so don't worry about me. However, I can't do
> everything alone, I need more people to be involved. I do love team work.
> That's why I made another thread: Lubuntu One Stop Group.
> 
> Everyone here is doing great job, no doubt about it but we need to be
> little bit more organized and each one of us focus on one or two things,
> not everything. That will increase our performan

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I can use Lubuntu for remaster?

2011-11-04 Thread Gabriel Salles
Ola João.

Como já responderam, pode sim fazer. Eu dei uma olhada no seu site e vi que
se trata de uma distribuição um tanto voltada para a educação. Como o
Lubuntu não tem ainda versão LTS (e não terá num futuro próximo), talvez
não seja a melhor opção neste caso. Sendo assim, eu queria sugerir outras
distribuições que de repente sirvam melhor para você utilizar ou fazer um
remaster. A primeira seria o Edubuntu http://www.edubuntu.org/ , que
oficialmente faz parte da família "Buntu".

Há também uma distro que nunca cheguei a usar, mas já ouvi falar algumas
vezes, que é o http://linuxeducacional.com/

Outra, que não aparece no DistroWatch, é a distro Tucunaré, criada pelo
Banco do Brasil e utilizada em muitos telecentros e escolas aqui no Brasil
http://www.redetelecentro.com.br/ . Até onde eu sei, é baseada no próprio
Debian. Penso que vale a pena conhecer este ultimo.


Abraço!

Gabriel Salles
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I can use Lubuntu for remaster?

2011-11-04 Thread Yorvyk
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:49:20 +0100
Chris  wrote:

> As far as I know is everyone free to alter and redistribute any given
> distribution when all the proper people/teams are thanked. You can read all
> about it in the GPL(v3?) licence supplied with the installation disk. It
> should also be readable somewhere in the system, but I don't know where
> that can be found.
> 
Also to be considered is trademark policy, infomation at 
http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-04 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> For the 2nd time and yet again, I'd like to THANK YOU for each and every
> word you wrote and for each and every suggestions, be sure I'll keep that
> in mind and I'm very sure you wrote all that because you want to help :)
> totally understood.
>
However, I'm afraid you are not seeing my point
>

*I'm afraid you're not seeing my point.  I understand your point and I'm
asking you to change it!  (The nerve or me!! I know!  :) )  Of course I'm
just trying to help.  LOST is already great.  I just think it could be even
better.  That's just my opinion and it's your baby so I'll respect that.*


> Another point I'd like to highlight. If your thread went 4K and became
> LOST, it doesn't mean same will happen with my thread :)
> If I'll fail to control things and my thread will be lost, that's not a
> problem. By that time, I would have something better than that thread, be
> sure of that :)
>

*I hope your thread far exceeds 4k post and proves more useful than my
little laptop thread (who knew a 11.6" Acer laptop could be so popular?
LOL).  Lubuntu should reach a much wider audience and last longer than any
piece of hardware.  Please, don't let your thread become useless.  People
will hash our solutions in there, don't let them get lost helping them help
you.*

Thank you for your support and thanks again for your suggestions. I already
> started to take that into actions, let's see what will happen :)


*You took action in post
#122.
It's my opinion that you need to do this at the top where everyone can see
it.  Post #122 will be buried in no time.
*

I love the bookmark concept.  I'm just saying that you could to ask the
users to start and use them, so that you can bookmark the unsolved ones
alongside the ones that are solved.  I think it will make your already
useful thread even more useful.

Not much more I can say.  I can't make it any more clear than I have.  I've
explained myself as best as I can.   There is no real reason for us to keep
this discussion ongoing and I don't want to waste everyone's time.  *I
respect your position and you understand mine so it's up to you to you to
do what you think is best.*  I'll do my best to support you where I can.
Keep up the good work.

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I can use Lubuntu for remaster?

2011-11-04 Thread Chris
As far as I know is everyone free to alter and redistribute any given
distribution when all the proper people/teams are thanked. You can read all
about it in the GPL(v3?) licence supplied with the installation disk. It
should also be readable somewhere in the system, but I don't know where
that can be found.

With metta, Chris

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 17:56, jt  wrote:

> Hello for everyone team members of Lubuntu Launchpad channel.
> Im a developer of a little project called FlavituLinux.
>
> I have a question i think in Lubuntu to remaster for my next release.
>
> I can use Lubuntu base to remaster or no?
>
> Many thanks for the time.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-04 Thread Ali Linx
Tim,

For the 2nd time and yet again, I'd like to THANK YOU for each and every
word you wrote and for each and every suggestions, be sure I'll keep that
in mind and I'm very sure you wrote all that because you want to help :)
totally understood.
However, I'm afraid you are not seeing my point.

Again, if you go back to my email, or just go to that thread and check the
banner I posted which was done in Photoshop at 4am last night, you'll
understand EVERYTHING :)

That thread is NOT meant to be for posing problems and fixes. That thread
is meant to be an online huge bookmarks thread where anyone can find
everything.
Also, this thread is to analyse users reactions and experience. I'm having
another thoughts much more than just a thread.

For me, even though in one week or less, the thread became Sticky and the
viewers are increasing in a rapid rate - Thank God for that, this is really
promising. However, I don't see anything huge in that. That's nothing.
Thing is, I'm a man with unlimited ambitions. If you want to motivate me,
just de-motivate me and wait for the out-come because you'll be dazzled :)
Believe me, I'm not showing off at all, I'm just trying to tell you one
simple thing: Don't worry, keep supporting me :)

We are one team and serving one noble purpose. Our thoughts and approaches
may vary but after all, we are doing what we do for one simple purpose:
Seeing Lubuntu at the top where it MUST be.

I'm a strong believer in Lubuntu and I'm not going to waste one single day
... I'll invest all my energy in this.

Another point I'd like to highlight. If your thread went 4K and became
LOST, it doesn't mean same will happen with my thread :)
If I'll fail to control things and my thread will be lost, that's not a
problem. By that time, I would have something better than that thread, be
sure of that :)

Thank you for your support and thanks again for your suggestions. I already
started to take that into actions, let's see what will happen :)

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Ali Linx  wrote:
>
>> Note: This is for everyone so lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net :)
>>
>> Dear ALL,
>> ... Above all, I can NOT ask people NOT to post over there because that
>> is against the real purpose of my thread. However, what I can do is to keep
>> it simple and short and organized as much as possible and I do have some
>> plans for that but again, wait please :)
>>
>
> A.J.,
>
> I don't think it's too much to *ask* users to either use the appropriate
> thread to discuss issues or start a new one if one doesn't exist.  If you
> read my suggestion, it's about making their experience more useful to
> others and providing you with a way to mange that information.  They can
> still post to the thread, but try to take specifics to the appropriate
> thread so that information can be more useful to others.   *You just need
> to explain why your asking them to do it that way and how and provide
> instructions. *   I think if you were to make these changes in post #3,
> LOST will be the bomb!  You may have to "police" it a little in the
> beginning, but it gets rolling, people will follow along.
>
> It's not about telling what they can't do.  It's about telling them what
> the CAN do to make their contributions more useful.  It's up to you
> though.  LOST is your baby.  Keep up the good work.
>
> Tim
>
>
>


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-04 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> Note: This is for everyone so lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net :)
>
> Dear ALL,
> ... Above all, I can NOT ask people NOT to post over there because that is
> against the real purpose of my thread. However, what I can do is to keep it
> simple and short and organized as much as possible and I do have some plans
> for that but again, wait please :)
>

A.J.,

I don't think it's too much to *ask* users to either use the appropriate
thread to discuss issues or start a new one if one doesn't exist.  If you
read my suggestion, it's about making their experience more useful to
others and providing you with a way to mange that information.  They can
still post to the thread, but try to take specifics to the appropriate
thread so that information can be more useful to others.   *You just need
to explain why your asking them to do it that way and how and provide
instructions. *   I think if you were to make these changes in post #3,
LOST will be the bomb!  You may have to "police" it a little in the
beginning, but it gets rolling, people will follow along.

It's not about telling what they can't do.  It's about telling them what
the CAN do to make their contributions more useful.  It's up to you
though.  LOST is your baby.  Keep up the good work.

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-04 Thread Tim Bernhard
Phill,

I agree that the wiki is a great place to put "learned" information.  But
most people will find forums easier to use  when the don't understand
something or have a problem they can get help quickly and ideas can be
exchanged more rapidly.  I actually prefer forums to mailing lists and
blogs for most things. *To me the wiki should be the first source for
general information and the forums should be the first place to hash out
problems.*  I think the focus should be on those two areas and they should
point to each other.

BUT, forums can be difficult to navigate.  I may need help with a .desktop
file and a search of the forums will bring up many threads.  Some will be
more useful than others.  It may take much more time and energy to find
that answer on a forum than is should.  So it ends up in a wiki.  Great,
but I'm still digging through the forums.  Ali's LOST points to the wiki
and it may also point to a thread that covers Lubuntu .desktop files.  No
if I have problems following the wiki (remember, I am most likely a noob
here!)  I can pop over to that thread and ask for assistance.  When someone
posts the answer I need it is now there for others to see and it's in a
logical place.  What's great about the forums is that they are
self-updating and long lasting (they don't go away.)  And being in the
Ubuntu forums is the best place for it IMO.

What Ali's LOST has a chance to do is draw Lubuntu users to one place on
the forum and then point them in the right direction.  It's a place the
devs can look to for bugs that may not be reported.  It's could be a place
to find out who needs help.  An it could be a place to find out what we
really need in the wiki.  It could be the most useful tool we have IF it's
managed correctly.  Right now, it's close, but as I pointed out, it's
currently flawed.  It does a great job of pointing people in need to
helpful information, but it does a poor job of pointing out who needs
help.  I've posted a possible solution for that.  But I can't do it for Ali.

Which brings me up to another drawback to the LOST.  Only Ali can control
how effective it will be.  If for any reason he can't do it anymore, then
it can no longer kept current.  It's still a great thread, but it will turn
into a 4K post monster like my laptop thread.  Which would be shame in my
opinion.  Think about how much great information about that laptop is in
that thread.  Now think about how difficult it would be to mine that
information.  I had good intentions when I started it, but I set it up to
fail.  It didn't achieve what I wanted it to do.  Actually I think it made
things worse because if you search those forums for information about that
laptop, it will always point to that thread.  How will anyone ever find
what they need in there?

My hope is Ali implements my suggestion so that doesn't happen with LOST.

Tim



On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi lubunteers,
>
> The most important thing is that each part is up to date. The more we
> diverge into different areas, the more impossible this becomes.
>
> I put up to people that our official wiki area should be 1st source and
> all other areas should point to it.
>
> We have already had this discussion wıth lubuntu.net pointıng to out of
> date stuff and ıt was corrected. There is not a snow flake in hells chance
> for our small team to keep every area up to date.
>
> My proposal was, is and continues to be that we PRIMARILY use our wiki
> area that includes 'How To' and 'Work Arounds' that are pointed to as. From
> all the other areas, a link that is updated is silly. People bookmark them.
> As renewed 'How Tos' / Work arounds are placed onto the forum etc. they
> must be then put onto the wiki area so that we are 'all singing off the
> same hymn sheet' Ali is excentlally placed to both look after the forum
> thread & has proven to be good at wiki - So I vote for hım.
>
> Having different sets of instructions / advice for people is simply going
> to lead to the chaos that we see generally when someone 'googles' a problem.
>
> I look forward to the replies, and, yes - we need them as to how we are
> going to have to decide on where we keep the MASTER set of instructions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phıll.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jared Norris  wrote:
>
>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, James Gifford 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K
>> >> posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is
>> >> where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in
>> >> otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top.
>> >>
>> >> Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to
>> >> AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate
>> >> over as well.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> James Gifford
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> My personal preference is to use each segment to the best of it's
>> abi

[Lubuntu-desktop] I can use Lubuntu for remaster?

2011-11-04 Thread jt

Hello for everyone team members of Lubuntu Launchpad channel.
Im a developer of a little project called FlavituLinux.

I have a question i think in Lubuntu to remaster for my next release.

I can use Lubuntu base to remaster or no?

Many thanks for the time.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 664206] Re: SSH_AUTH_SOCK not being properly set: user has to type password even if saved in the password manager

2011-11-04 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/664206

Title:
  SSH_AUTH_SOCK not being properly set: user has to type password even
  if saved in the password manager

Status in GNOME keyring services:
  Unknown
Status in “gdm” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in “gnome-keyring” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in “lubuntu-default-settings” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in “lxde-common” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed
Status in “lxdm” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Binary package hint: lxde-common

  SSH_AUTH_SOCK is not being properly set. (Or it is pointing to a sock
  that doesn't accomplish its job.)

  Expected behavior:
  You run "ssh myn...@mydomain.net" and the password manager opens a GUI to ask 
for the passphrase. Once unlocked, it remains unlocked until you log off. 
Moreover, at that moment of unlocking you can tell it to remember the 
passphrase forever so it gets automatically unlocked next time you login. Any 
other application that uses ssh-like connections will find this key unlocked as 
well.

  Observed behavior:
  You run "ssh myn...@mydomain.net" and it prompts you for the key passphrase 
in the terminal. You run it again, you are prompted again. Any other 
application that uses ssh-like connections will result in a passphrase prompt 
as well.

  How to reproduce:
  Enter Lubuntu session
  Open Passwords and Encryption Keys
  Create a Secure Shell key
  Configure this key to some domain you can ssh to
  Open a terminal and run ssh myn...@mydomain.net
  You are promted for a password in the terminal interface.

  Partial workaround:
  Here is a partial workaround for a terminal session: export 
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=`echo /tmp/keyring*/ssh` after the keyring-daemon has been loaded.
  But it only works within the same terminal session, not for other 
applications that launch ssh-like processes.
  Disclaim: it works for Lubuntu session inside a Ubuntu 10.04 install, with 
GDM as session manager.

  $ printenv SSH_AUTH_SOCK
  /tmp/ssh-PZgdl10603/agent.10603
  $ ssh mydomain
  Enter passphrase for key '/home/leorolla/.ssh/id_rsa': [pressed ^C]
  $ export SSH_AUTH_SOCK=`echo /tmp/keyring*/ssh`
  $ printenv SSH_AUTH_SOCK
  /tmp/keyring-k3BQQd/ssh
  $ ssh mydomain
  Last login: Wed Oct 20 19:58:06 2010 from 
  Your default printer is 
  mydomain:leorolla> [blinking cursor!]

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