[Lubuntu-desktop] Following development of Lubuntu 12.04

2011-11-14 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi again,

I have a bit more time to explain how you can follow the development of Lubuntu 
12.04.

The first source of information is here : 
http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-lubuntu.html

It shows the advancement and the tasks planned for 12.04.

To edit the tasks, you need to go to each blueprints, in Contributing 
Blueprints section. See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorkItemsHowto to how you 
can edit the tasks.

Another important page is the Schedule, which is shared with Ubuntu and other 
derivatives : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule . For 
example, FeatureFreeze is the date when no more feature should be added.

You also subscribe to changes done on Ubuntu : 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Precise-changes

With this, you should be pretty much up-to-date :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-14 Thread Yorvyk
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:43:05 +0700
Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting on 
 IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's needed.
 I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do it 
 less often in the future, if it's not necessary.
 
 Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it during 
 the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and Internet 
 connection :)
 
 I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because it's 
 the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after some 
 time (like 3 months).

We could alternate the times.  7PM one week 7AM another?
 
 I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting on 
 the 23th.
 
 It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when you 
 have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the schedule, 
 so people can discuss it even if you can't be online at this time.
 
 Let me know what you think about this.
 
It doesn't matter what time the meetings are, they will be inconvenient for 
some.  As long as the logs of the meeting are available for others to comment 
on, everybody should be able to have a say.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu 12.04] My Suggestions

2011-11-14 Thread Julien Lavergne

This is some comments about some proposals you made. Some concerns are probably 
shared among the community, so it's not useless that I answer some of them :

LTS :
Again, it's not a choice which depends on the users, but a decision made by the 
developers. Of course I would like to be LTS, like I would like to buy an 
expensive car. The fact is, we can't. And even if we try, it could be so 
expensive that it will block us to do new cool stuff, because we have to 
maintain 12.04.

Applications by default :
The policy is to keep existing applications, unless we think there are serious 
reasons to switch. In this case, we open a discussion, case by case, on the 
mailing list. Changing application by default is not something we should do 
often. People who rely on them expect stability. The others can just install 
what they want (they have the skills to do this). 

Bug reports :
Some suggestions you made should be bug reports, not suggestions. Adding them 
on the forum will not help developers to fix them. We already have not enough 
time to look at all the bugs, so I'm sure we will have no time to look at them 
on a forum, or IRC.

Finally, some of your suggestions was already discussed in the past. I don't 
know how we can do to avoid the same subjects to come over and over ...

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:38:21 +0400
amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Julien,
 
 Hope it's not too late for me to send some suggestions for Lubuntu 12.04 :)
 I was so busy lately and couldn't have some free time until last night
 beside I'm a bit sick these days.
 
 *My suggestions*:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11447159postcount=94
 
 *Original thread*: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442
 
 In case I want to add more, shall I update my post or send them through
 this email?
 
 Thank you!
 
 P.S.
 If there is any kind of updates about 12.04, please let me know. Thanks!
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-14 Thread Benny Hult
+1 from here too for this.
Easier to talk and have debates.
Are we going to use #lubuntu(-offtopic) or #ubuntu-meeting?

Time is great for me, cycling it aint bad idea either when thinking
about people living on the other side of the planet, like asia or
western side of the america.Julien Lavergne kirjoitti 14.11.2011 9:43:
Hi,

One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting
on IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's
needed.
I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do
it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.

Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it
during the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and
Internet connection :)

I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings,
because it's the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can
change it after some time (like 3 months).

I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC,
starting on the 23th.

It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt
when you have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject
to the schedule, so people can discuss it even if you can't be online
at this time.

Let me know what you think about this.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-14 Thread mohi
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are we going to use #lubuntu(-offtopic) or #ubuntu-meeting?


It will be better if we have it in #ubuntu-meeting.

 Time is great for me, cycling it aint bad idea either when thinking
 about people living on the other side of the planet, like asia or
 western side of the america.

It will be better if we decide about cycling time after seeing the
members present for the meeting

Julien Lavergne kirjoitti 14.11.2011 9:43:
 Hi,
 I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do
 it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.


Exactly, we need topics atleast one day before the meeting so that
each can come forward and out the opinions.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-14 Thread Chris
If we want the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting (which is preferred I think) then
we should go an hour later. There is already a meeting every week from
Unity Contributors Team Meeting. Check the Fridge to see which times are
still available for #ubuntu-meeting.

I think the time is pretty good, but that is for my time-zone.

With metta, Chris

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:18, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote:

  Are we going to use #lubuntu(-offtopic) or #ubuntu-meeting?
 

 It will be better if we have it in #ubuntu-meeting.

  Time is great for me, cycling it aint bad idea either when thinking
  about people living on the other side of the planet, like asia or
  western side of the america.

 It will be better if we decide about cycling time after seeing the
 members present for the meeting

 Julien Lavergne kirjoitti 14.11.2011 9:43:
  Hi,
  I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do
  it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.
 

 Exactly, we need topics atleast one day before the meeting so that
 each can come forward and out the opinions.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] lxde.org down again?

2011-11-14 Thread Michael Rawson
Am I being stupid, and haven't noticed, or is lxde.org down again? Using 
chrome from the UK, broadband connection from BT.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxde.org down again?

2011-11-14 Thread Ian Gilfillan

It's down for everyone. You can always check it's not just you at:
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/lxde.org

On 14/11/2011 16:23, Michael Rawson wrote:
Am I being stupid, and haven't noticed, or is lxde.org down again? 
Using chrome from the UK, broadband connection from BT.




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxde.org down again?

2011-11-14 Thread Michael Rawson

On 14/11/11 14:43, Ian Gilfillan wrote:

It's down for everyone. You can always check it's not just you at:
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/lxde.org

On 14/11/2011 16:23, Michael Rawson wrote:
Am I being stupid, and haven't noticed, or is lxde.org down again? 
Using chrome from the UK, broadband connection from BT.




I kinda meant if somebody had reported it before-I knew it was down and 
then it was up again, but I thought might have missed someone saying 
about it. Thank you, though.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxde.org down again?

2011-11-14 Thread 魏銘廷
Andrew,

Please help us check if the DNS server of the VM has down.
I can connect to the server's ssh, but not the web server.

Thanks,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu 12.04] My Suggestions

2011-11-14 Thread Gabriel Salles
Hi Julien

I understand that now it is not possible to support an LTS for 3 or 5 five
years... But is it possible to support during 2 years?? (Just 6 months more)
Because 2 years is the time that takes to release the 14.04 (another
LTS), and maybe, at 2014, we will be able to have a true LTS. =]

Att,

Gabriel Salles
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-14 Thread Julien Lavergne
yes, I forgot to check with the fridge. According to this, we will probably 
need to push it to 8 PM, or on Tuesday 6 PM.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:45:15 +0100
Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 If we want the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting (which is preferred I think) then
 we should go an hour later. There is already a meeting every week from
 Unity Contributors Team Meeting. Check the Fridge to see which times are
 still available for #ubuntu-meeting.
 
 I think the time is pretty good, but that is for my time-zone.
 
 With metta, Chris
 
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:18, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Are we going to use #lubuntu(-offtopic) or #ubuntu-meeting?
  
 
  It will be better if we have it in #ubuntu-meeting.
 
   Time is great for me, cycling it aint bad idea either when thinking
   about people living on the other side of the planet, like asia or
   western side of the america.
 
  It will be better if we decide about cycling time after seeing the
  members present for the meeting
 
  Julien Lavergne kirjoitti 14.11.2011 9:43:
   Hi,
   I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do
   it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.
  
 
  Exactly, we need topics atleast one day before the meeting so that
  each can come forward and out the opinions.
 
 
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