Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread Steven 
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:

> On 6 January 2012 17:10, Steven  wrote:
> > Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :)
> >
> > 1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004. It's
> my
> > main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm.
> >
> > I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds like the
> > kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not
> beyond),
> > but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can convince
> > them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin Watson
> > mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1].
> >
> > -Steven
> >
> > [1]:
> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk 
> > wrote:
>
> Steven,
>
> Running a PAE kernel and capable of running a PAE kernel are a couple
> of different things. I'd honestly be surpised if that CPU wasn't
> capable of running a PAE kernel. Are you able to run the command "grep
> pae /proc/cpuinfo" to see if it is capable of running a PAE kernel? If
> you get any output please paste it back if you're not sure what it
> means.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
>


That command doesn't give any output:
$ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
$

It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
first time the other day and got this:
"This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
pae
Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."

-Steven
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread Marvin Reimer 
Hi (my first post to a Lubuntu Maillinglist),

I also had one minor problem with the PAE kernel.
I'm running Lubuntu mainly in VMs (because it is faster than the heavier
Ubuntu).
When installing Lubuntu Precise in Virtualbox I had to turn on PAE support
in the options (this was not a dealbreaker).

But, when installing Virtualbox Guest Additions in Lubuntu Precise, the
headers of the PAE kernel where missing so that the Guest Additions could
not be installed.

I recommend to include the PAE kernel headers in the base install so that
some non advanced users can also install the Guest Additions easily.

Marvin

2012/1/6 Steven 

> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:
>
>> On 6 January 2012 17:10, Steven  wrote:
>> > Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :)
>> >
>> > 1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004. It's
>> my
>> > main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm.
>> >
>> > I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds like
>> the
>> > kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not
>> beyond),
>> > but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can
>> convince
>> > them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin
>> Watson
>> > mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1].
>> >
>> > -Steven
>> >
>> > [1]:
>> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Steven,
>>
>> Running a PAE kernel and capable of running a PAE kernel are a couple
>> of different things. I'd honestly be surpised if that CPU wasn't
>> capable of running a PAE kernel. Are you able to run the command "grep
>> pae /proc/cpuinfo" to see if it is capable of running a PAE kernel? If
>> you get any output please paste it back if you're not sure what it
>> means.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
>>
>
>
> That command doesn't give any output:
> $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
> $
>
> It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
> first time the other day and got this:
> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
> pae
> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
>
> -Steven
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-06 Thread Yorvyk 
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:21:31 +0100
Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It's official, we have a new mailing list :)
> 
> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
> subscribe to this new mailing list (See
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).
> 
> The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions,
> and the team will be close soon.
> 
> Thanks for your attention :)
> 
I've forwarded this the the Ubuntu News Team for a bit of extra publicity. 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-06 Thread Yorvyk 
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:21:31 +0100
Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It's official, we have a new mailing list :)
> 
> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
> subscribe to this new mailing list (See
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).
> 
> The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions,
> and the team will be close soon.
> 
> Thanks for your attention :)
> 
A polite request.
Please don't cross-post to the two lists, this will lead to all manner of 
confusion.

Ta.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread Jared Norris 
On 6 January 2012 19:17, Steven  wrote:
>
>
>
> That command doesn't give any output:
> $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
> $
>
> It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
> first time the other day and got this:
> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
> pae
> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
>
> -Steven

Wow, I stand corrected. I have a VERY similar CPU here in my Dell
laptop that is around the same vintage that is PAE supported. This
does suggest the problem is more widespread than originally thought as
this is pretty much the target market for Lubuntu, older laptops.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA 
Hi,

I went through the whole thread (37 emails so far) and noticed very simple
thing that I already have noticed long time ago (I know what most of you
will say) which is: we do *NOT *have accurate database of Lubuntu Users in
general and those who are "still" using OLD machines and I mean VERY old
here.

I like such kind of discussion and I tend to agree with some opinions and
disagree with others but after all, this is very healthy activity
(discussion) but ... as always ... the real question is: isn't it pointless
to discuss such thing without REAL figures? some guys already pointed that
out, I guess.

Long story short, my simple and humble opinion is: we need a group of
people who do a survey to obtain such figures. No, I have no smart ideas of
HOWTO do that but if we could discuss about this, that would be VERY
helpful. Perhaps we are wasting our time here and there are only 2-3 users
with such old machines? for me, Lubuntu 10.04 didn't work on this:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614 while Mint LXDE 9 did.
Both may be using the same kernel but I'm not really sure why Lubuntu
didn't work. Also, perhaps they are many users that will be affected with
that drop? so we need some figures.

Just a thought I'd like to share with all, as usual :)

Thanks!



On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Marvin Reimer wrote:

> Hi (my first post to a Lubuntu Maillinglist),
>
> I also had one minor problem with the PAE kernel.
> I'm running Lubuntu mainly in VMs (because it is faster than the heavier
> Ubuntu).
> When installing Lubuntu Precise in Virtualbox I had to turn on PAE support
> in the options (this was not a dealbreaker).
>
> But, when installing Virtualbox Guest Additions in Lubuntu Precise, the
> headers of the PAE kernel where missing so that the Guest Additions could
> not be installed.
>
> I recommend to include the PAE kernel headers in the base install so that
> some non advanced users can also install the Guest Additions easily.
>
> Marvin
>
> 2012/1/6 Steven 
>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:
>>
>>> On 6 January 2012 17:10, Steven  wrote:
>>> > Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :)
>>> >
>>> > 1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004.
>>> It's my
>>> > main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm.
>>> >
>>> > I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds like
>>> the
>>> > kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not
>>> beyond),
>>> > but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can
>>> convince
>>> > them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin
>>> Watson
>>> > mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1].
>>> >
>>> > -Steven
>>> >
>>> > [1]:
>>> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Steven,
>>>
>>> Running a PAE kernel and capable of running a PAE kernel are a couple
>>> of different things. I'd honestly be surpised if that CPU wasn't
>>> capable of running a PAE kernel. Are you able to run the command "grep
>>> pae /proc/cpuinfo" to see if it is capable of running a PAE kernel? If
>>> you get any output please paste it back if you're not sure what it
>>> means.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
>>>
>>
>>
>> That command doesn't give any output:
>> $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
>> $
>>
>> It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
>> first time the other day and got this:
>> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
>> pae
>> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
>>
>> -Steven
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread Jared Norris 
On 6 January 2012 19:57, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I went through the whole thread (37 emails so far) and noticed very simple
> thing that I already have noticed long time ago (I know what most of you
> will say) which is: we do NOT have accurate database of Lubuntu Users in
> general and those who are "still" using OLD machines and I mean VERY old
> here.
>
> I like such kind of discussion and I tend to agree with some opinions and
> disagree with others but after all, this is very healthy activity
> (discussion) but ... as always ... the real question is: isn't it pointless
> to discuss such thing without REAL figures? some guys already pointed that
> out, I guess.
>
> Long story short, my simple and humble opinion is: we need a group of people
> who do a survey to obtain such figures. No, I have no smart ideas of HOWTO
> do that but if we could discuss about this, that would be VERY helpful.
> Perhaps we are wasting our time here and there are only 2-3 users with such
> old machines? for me, Lubuntu 10.04 didn't work on this:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614 while Mint LXDE 9 did. Both
> may be using the same kernel but I'm not really sure why Lubuntu didn't
> work. Also, perhaps they are many users that will be affected with that
> drop? so we need some figures.
>
> Just a thought I'd like to share with all, as usual :)
>
> Thanks!

Yeah it's been put forward as an idea before but again, without an
accurate way to get the information the straw poll we're conducting
here is just as valid as an online survey because this is essentially
an online survey.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-06 Thread Peter Matulis 
On 12-01-05 02:21 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It's official, we have a new mailing list :)
> 
> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

I suppose we should have Lubuntu lists showing up on this page:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/

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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

2012-01-06 Thread Charlie Kravetz 
Setting to high importance, since once the new language takes effect,
the center button (back in English) takes me to a desktop in that
language. Not being able to read the language, it makes it difficult to
back up and change back to English. This can have detrimental effects
for those not expecting a desktop in a language they can not read.

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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Title:
  hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When choosing "install xubuntu" from the cd menu, hitting enter on the
  first screen causes the language to jump to the topmost language.

  Verified using both VirtualBox and Hardware, this can be reproduced in
  both Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop images.

  TESTCASE:

  1. when cd spins up, hit enter to accept default language
  2. hold right shift in Ubuntu for cd menu, menu is default in Xubuntu
  3. Select "Install Xubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu"
  4. At first screen in Ubiquity, hit enter to select English and continue
  5. Note next screen is not in English.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: ubiquity 2.9.10
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-7.13-generic-pae 3.2.0-rc7
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-7-generic-pae i686
  ApportVersion: 1.90-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: i386
  CasperVersion: 1.296
  Date: Wed Jan  4 18:04:56 2012
  LiveMediaBuild: Xubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20120104)
  ProcEnviron:
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: ubiquity
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-06 Thread Julien Lavergne 
Le 01/05/2012 11:09 PM, Michael Rawson a écrit :
> So...is this the developer list, the user list, or both? Or some
> combination thereof?
Both, this was discussed in a previous meeting.

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-06 Thread Julien Lavergne 
Le 01/06/2012 02:30 PM, Peter Matulis a écrit :
> I suppose we should have Lubuntu lists showing up on this page:
>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/
Yes, I hope it's updated automaticly :) Otherwise I'll send a mail in a
couple of days to the lists admins for an update.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-06 Thread Michael Rawson 
Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood your original email.

I thought you meant 'we have a new mailing list, x, and if you want to keep up 
with the Lubuntu discussion, there's thsi one: y'

Sorry. :(

Thanks,

michael

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:04:11 +0100
Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le 01/05/2012 11:09 PM, Michael Rawson a écrit :
> > So...is this the developer list, the user list, or both? Or some
> > combination thereof?
> Both, this was discussed in a previous meeting.
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread Yorvyk 
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 04:39:21 -0500
Steven  wrote:

> i think you forgot to 'reply-all' and missed lubuntu-desktop :)
> 
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Yorvyk  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 04:17:29 -0500
> > Steven  wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 6 January 2012 17:10, Steven  wrote:
> > > > > Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :)
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004.
> > It's
> > > > my
> > > > > main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds
> > like the
> > > > > kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not
> > > > beyond),
> > > > > but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can
> > convince
> > > > > them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin
> > Watson
> > > > > mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1].
> > > > >
> > > > > -Steven
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]:
> > > >
> > http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk <
> > yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Steven,
> > > >
> > > > Running a PAE kernel and capable of running a PAE kernel are a couple
> > > > of different things. I'd honestly be surpised if that CPU wasn't
> > > > capable of running a PAE kernel. Are you able to run the command "grep
> > > > pae /proc/cpuinfo" to see if it is capable of running a PAE kernel? If
> > > > you get any output please paste it back if you're not sure what it
> > > > means.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That command doesn't give any output:
> > > $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
> > > $
> > >
> > > It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
> > > first time the other day and got this:
> > > "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
> > > pae
> > > Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
> > >
> > > -Steven
> > >
> > The Pentium M appears to be the most common CPU that can't run a PAE
> > kernel.
> > As Lubuntu is mainly aimed at low end machines I think we should go with
> > the non-PAE kernel as default, this will give us a 'market' not available
> > to the other 'ubuntus.
> > I seem to remember, at one point there were two kernels on a distro and
> > the appropriate one selected depending how much memory was detected.  Is
> > the feasible.
> > What would be really wonderful, would be if the non-PAE kernel was i586.
> >  This would increase, by a small percentage admittedly, the number of cpus
> > Lubuntu could support.
> >
> > --
> > Yorvyk
> >


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread Steven 
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:57 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I went through the whole thread (37 emails so far) and noticed very simple
> thing that I already have noticed long time ago (I know what most of you
> will say) which is: we do *NOT *have accurate database of Lubuntu Users
> in general and those who are "still" using OLD machines and I mean VERY old
> here.
>
> I like such kind of discussion and I tend to agree with some opinions and
> disagree with others but after all, this is very healthy activity
> (discussion) but ... as always ... the real question is: isn't it pointless
> to discuss such thing without REAL figures? some guys already pointed that
> out, I guess.
>
> Long story short, my simple and humble opinion is: we need a group of
> people who do a survey to obtain such figures. No, I have no smart ideas of
> HOWTO do that but if we could discuss about this, that would be VERY
> helpful. Perhaps we are wasting our time here and there are only 2-3 users
> with such old machines? for me, Lubuntu 10.04 didn't work on this:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614 while Mint LXDE 9 did.
> Both may be using the same kernel but I'm not really sure why Lubuntu
> didn't work. Also, perhaps they are many users that will be affected with
> that drop? so we need some figures.
>
> Just a thought I'd like to share with all, as usual :)
>
> Thanks!
>


The problem with a survey is that it will never be representative, since it
is opt-in, and even more unrepresentative based off of where it's
publicized (i.e. a poll of lubuntu-desktop subscribers won't get you all of
the non-pae cpu users). The only fool-proof way of getting this data is to
automatically submit it from users' computers, but that's a privacy issue,
and still limits to internet users and those who do package upgrades
regularly (assuming the submission method results from a package upgrade).

I can offer you this though [1]:
21:35:54  so, as for data, with bdmurray's help, I downloaded 7271
x86 cpuinfos from bug reports on LP about a year ago. 336 of those were
non-pae.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cpu-checker-dev/cpu-checker/trunk/files/head:/test/
21:36:12  so that's just under 5%


I think it's also not how many people are using non-pae cpus, but whether
or not Lubuntu is expected to be able to run on non-pae cpus. For example,
I would expect Lubuntu to run on the 400MHz FSB Pentium M CPUs [2] (only
the 400MHz FSB models don't support PAE [3]); in fact, I'd even argue that
those CPUs are part of the intended audience. And no matter how many users
there are, based off of a QA perspective, if I say that Lubuntu is designed
for a particular kind of machine, it better be able to run on that machine,
plain and simple.

Also, the non-pae kernel is still supported in Precise. All we'd have to do
is change the default kernel on i386.

-Steven


[1]:
http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt
[2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_M_microprocessors
[3]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

2012-01-06 Thread Erick Brunzell 
Maybe I need a better explanation of how to reproduce this behavior.
Just now I've tried both the Ubuntu and Lubuntu i386 20120116 images,
both choosing "try me first" and "install", and I couldn't reproduce
this. I've not tried Xubuntu.

The only "glitch" I've encountered is that the Precise CD/DVD wants to
add itself to my base Oneiric systems sources if I choose "boot first
hard drive" from the live boot menu, but that's only been with todays
image.

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Title:
  hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When choosing "install xubuntu" from the cd menu, hitting enter on the
  first screen causes the language to jump to the topmost language.

  Verified using both VirtualBox and Hardware, this can be reproduced in
  both Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop images.

  TESTCASE:

  1. when cd spins up, hit enter to accept default language
  2. hold right shift in Ubuntu for cd menu, menu is default in Xubuntu
  3. Select "Install Xubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu"
  4. At first screen in Ubiquity, hit enter to select English and continue
  5. Note next screen is not in English.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: ubiquity 2.9.10
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-7.13-generic-pae 3.2.0-rc7
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-7-generic-pae i686
  ApportVersion: 1.90-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: i386
  CasperVersion: 1.296
  Date: Wed Jan  4 18:04:56 2012
  LiveMediaBuild: Xubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20120104)
  ProcEnviron:
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: ubiquity
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

2012-01-06 Thread Charlie Kravetz 
To reproduce this issue, 
1.  insert a cd in the drive
2.  when the cd starts, select the default language. 
3.  Make sure you are at the cd menu, not the later selection screen that has 
only two choices. This has the F-keys across the bottom and at least 4 items in 
the menu
4.  Select the second item in the menu, "Install ???"
5.  At the next screen, hit Enter on the keyboard.


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Title:
  hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When choosing "install xubuntu" from the cd menu, hitting enter on the
  first screen causes the language to jump to the topmost language.

  Verified using both VirtualBox and Hardware, this can be reproduced in
  both Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop images.

  TESTCASE:

  1. when cd spins up, hit enter to accept default language
  2. hold right shift in Ubuntu for cd menu, menu is default in Xubuntu
  3. Select "Install Xubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu"
  4. At first screen in Ubiquity, hit enter to select English and continue
  5. Note next screen is not in English.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: ubiquity 2.9.10
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-7.13-generic-pae 3.2.0-rc7
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-7-generic-pae i686
  ApportVersion: 1.90-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: i386
  CasperVersion: 1.296
  Date: Wed Jan  4 18:04:56 2012
  LiveMediaBuild: Xubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20120104)
  ProcEnviron:
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: ubiquity
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

2012-01-06 Thread Erick Brunzell 
I swear I just did exactly that with Lubuntu i386-20120106, it's
installing as I type this.

I booted the Live CD (actually DVD due to size) and the first screen I
was presented with was the language selection screen. I left it on the
default English and selected "Install". From there things went pretty
much as expected, but some screens were "drawn" twice or out of place.

I don't think any of this is ubiquity or casper related but rather
something to do with other elements being added to the live image in a
haphazard way as is typical during heavy development.

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Title:
  hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When choosing "install xubuntu" from the cd menu, hitting enter on the
  first screen causes the language to jump to the topmost language.

  Verified using both VirtualBox and Hardware, this can be reproduced in
  both Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop images.

  TESTCASE:

  1. when cd spins up, hit enter to accept default language
  2. hold right shift in Ubuntu for cd menu, menu is default in Xubuntu
  3. Select "Install Xubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu"
  4. At first screen in Ubiquity, hit enter to select English and continue
  5. Note next screen is not in English.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: ubiquity 2.9.10
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-7.13-generic-pae 3.2.0-rc7
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-7-generic-pae i686
  ApportVersion: 1.90-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: i386
  CasperVersion: 1.296
  Date: Wed Jan  4 18:04:56 2012
  LiveMediaBuild: Xubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20120104)
  ProcEnviron:
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: ubiquity
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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