Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Julián Alarcón
Some notes: Lubuntu is Ubuntu and free software, so, is not JUST for linux geeks, is for all "human beings". Lubuntu will be a light OS, so, no big resources. The main goal of Lubuntu is to bring Ubuntu to old PCs (here on Colombia many people (rural zones) use Pentium II + 256 of RAM + 10 GB DD +

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Stephen Michael Kellat
Frak. My mistake, they made a release six months ago. Dillo, while promising, looks like something to be referred to the paper cuts crew as the package in our repos is not up to speed. When my mother's system was running openSUSE 11.1, it did not have a current Dillo either. SMK -- Stephen Mic

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Stephen Michael Kellat
I thought Dillo was abandoned as it has not seen active development in over a year? SMK -- Stephen Michael Kellat, MSLS +1 702 714 0397 (message phone) DC5A625B (Canonical OpenPGP Key) skel...@fastmail.net (e-mail) http://erielookingproductions.info http://identi.ca/alpacaherder John Collier wr

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread John Collier
Since memory may be an issue on certain machines, I'd suggest maybe Dillo, but due to the lack of support for multiple things (i.e scripts) I won't. Has anyone tested Chromium on such a machine yet to see how well it runs? John. ___ Mailing list: https

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Jonay Santana
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Matteo Pagliazzi < matteopaglia...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, i'm matteo an italian user. > For me the best browser for lubuntu is Chromium because is light, very > fast, well-know and have extension. > For me firefox is too fat. > > > Agreed. Also I want to de-

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Steve
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:30:40 -, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le samedi 30 janvier 2010 à 17:06 +, Steve a écrit : What sort of spec are we talking about. P4 1GB mem P3 512MN mem P2 256MB mem For memory, 256MB is the target, maybe lower if we can. 128Mb should be possible but for limited

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le vendredi 29 janvier 2010 à 22:18 -0500, Julián Alarcón a écrit : > There is one problem... Chromium/Chome waste a lot of memory, please, > take a look to the use of memory of Chomium when you are opening 4 o > more tabs! That what I though when I used Chromium on my main computer. I looked on g

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le vendredi 29 janvier 2010 à 18:28 -0600, flavio muñoz marquez a écrit : > Well, I think that it should be Firefox ... free browser is the > best Chromium still not 100%, but neither should we forget > "Epiphany" Which part of the browser is not free ? Chromium is available in universe, that

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le samedi 30 janvier 2010 à 15:49 +0700, Mario Behling a écrit : > Privacy is a real issue. There is an alternative see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Iron > David Sugar mentioned one time, that the Chromium maintainers might > look into it. Now, that Canonical is changing to Yahoo as its st

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le samedi 30 janvier 2010 à 11:06 +, Steve a écrit : > It’s swings and roundabouts isn’t it. > Firefox is well known, works with most banks, it’s failings are known, > making it easier to assist new users. Sure, Firefox have the advantage to be famous, on Windows or Ubuntu. > Chromium is qui

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le samedi 30 janvier 2010 à 10:53 +0100, Leszek Lesner a écrit : > + You don't need to make google the default search engine, to call this > browser chromium (see firefox: can only be called firefox, if search engine > is google and we don't touch the default profile, thats insane) OT, Ubuntu sw

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Who is Lubuntu aimed at?

2010-01-30 Thread Jaime Humberto Cruz Cruz
We can add people without enough resources to buy the latest hardware (and yes they do exist). Regards, On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:13:58 +0530 Vishal Rao wrote: > 2010/1/30 Steve : > > While replying to mails about which packages should be included in Lubuntu I > > started to wonder who it is aime

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Jaime Humberto Cruz Cruz
Vote for Chromium and Lynx. Regards, On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:42:42 -0500 "Stephen Michael Kellat" wrote: > If we're going to go this far, why not stick with Lynx in an xterm? > Elinks might even be less resource intensive than Firefox and the rest, > too, while being more responsive than tradi

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
Just a remember before I answer to all the replies : the goal is not to determine the best browser for everyone and for all cases. This is for standard Ubuntu version :) The goal is to determine the best browser for the Lubuntu scope : - Old hardware - Possible small screen resolution - Easy to use

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Who is Lubuntu aimed at?

2010-01-30 Thread Vishal Rao
2010/1/30 Steve : > While replying to mails about which packages should be included in Lubuntu I > started to wonder who it is aimed at. > > Tech savvy users trying to get more use out of old machines. > Tech savvy users trying to get more use out of old machines to allow granny > to surf the web a

[Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Matteo Pagliazzi
Hello, i'm matteo an italian user. For me the best browser for lubuntu is Chromium because is light, very fast, well-know and have extension. For me firefox is too fat. -- Matteo - http://mypaglia.altervista.org ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~

[Lubuntu-desktop] Who is Lubuntu aimed at?

2010-01-30 Thread Steve
While replying to mails about which packages should be included in Lubuntu I started to wonder who it is aimed at. Tech savvy users trying to get more use out of old machines. Tech savvy users trying to get more use out of old machines to allow granny to surf the web and mail her MP. New user

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

2010-01-30 Thread Steve
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:33:55 -, Julien Lavergne wrote: Hi, Well, if we continue this way, we can remove all program except the browser and become a Chrome OS But for the email client, using only the web UI mean you have constantly a good Internet connexion, you can't do anything offline.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Steve
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:53:23 -, Leszek Lesner wrote: Hi, Firefox has its good points. But packed with lots of plugins it also sucks at memory usage. So Chromium +1 , because: + FAST (I mean really fast, the time I start firefox the same time, I open almost 10 Tabs within chromium) +

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread friedrichxml
i've been using Opera, Firefox and Chrome in lxde and xfce environments last two months, and Opera works better than Firefox and Chrome. You should consider Opera option beyond the open sources issues. Regards. En Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:53:23 +0100, Leszek Lesner escribió: Hi, Firefox ha

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] i could help translating

2010-01-30 Thread Mario Behling
Hi Jo, Welcome in the team! lubuntu is based on LXDE and other software. Please follow the steps on http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations to join the translation team. At the moment the first version of new PCMan File Manager is looking for translators. And we also look for people who can

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Leszek Lesner
Hi, Firefox has its good points. But packed with lots of plugins it also sucks at memory usage. So Chromium +1 , because: + FAST (I mean really fast, the time I start firefox the same time, I open almost 10 Tabs within chromium) + Stable (Thirdparty plugins, like JAVA and Flash don't bring the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Joe
Up until earlier this week I would have voted for Firefox, because it just works although it is bloated. I've recently tried Chromium, Chrome, Opera and Kazekhaze - none work as you would expect all the time. This week however I tried Midori which just works and is incredibly fast. I recon a good

[Lubuntu-desktop] i could help translating

2010-01-30 Thread yo_yoh
hi, my name is jo gerb. i joined your team and id like to help. i could translate lubuntu into german, and i also could aid you with the design. have a nice day, jo -- This message was sent from Launchpad by the user yo_yoh (https://launchpad.net/~yo-yoh) using the "Contact this team" link on the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Mario Behling
Hi, the discussion is coming up from time to time. This is a good overview. My additions to Julien inline > == Keep Firefox == > + Firefox is well-known > + Well maintained upstream and on Ubuntu > + Many features + supported in many languages > - Slow on startup > - Memory usage > ? Rendering

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-01-30 Thread Zoltan Matlak
Based on browser market share and popularity, other than IE and Safari, Firefox and Chrome are the winners. So I would suggest to keep one of these two and do not try to pick an exotic one, which is used by a very limited number of people. Firefox is mature and stable, would be my primary option f