[Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread PCMan
Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
git since there are some important fixes.
It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
things are going to be improved.
In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
to support them and provide better user experience.

In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
to test new features.
Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
environment.
So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
release a buggy one.
Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.

Cheers!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [LXDE Translation] PCManFM 0.9.4 beta2 will be released in two days

2010-04-11 Thread PCMan
IIRC I haven't touch the strings due to the freeze, but it's always a
good idea to check in pootle or transifex again to make sure there are
no untranslated strings.

For the future release of PCManFM/Libfm, there will be periods for
freeze like this, so we can get proper translation and testing before
release. :-)

This is the first step toward quality assurance.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are there any new strings we should translate?
 Yaron Shahrabani - Hebrew

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Jo Gerb
i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a
beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more
programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first
lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro.
In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict.

Best regards, Jo.

2010/4/11 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com

 Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important fixes.
 It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
 At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
 things are going to be improved.
 In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
 to support them and provide better user experience.

 In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
 to test new features.
 Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
 need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
 environment.
 So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
 release a buggy one.
 Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
 I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.

 Cheers!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread PCMan
This makes sense.
Since we're not in Ubuntu family, there is no need to follow ubuntu schedule.
Let's take the time and make a good release rather than do things in a hurry.
Another benefit for the delay I found:
After ubuntu 10.04 release, there must be tons of bugs found. This is
predictable.
So, when we release, many bugs should have been fixed then we can make
a more stable release, isn't it?.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a
 beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more
 programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first
 lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro.
 In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict.

 Best regards, Jo.

 2010/4/11 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com

 Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important fixes.
 It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
 At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
 things are going to be improved.
 In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
 to support them and provide better user experience.

 In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
 to test new features.
 Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
 need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
 environment.
 So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
 release a buggy one.
 Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
 I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.

 Cheers!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Leszek Lesner

PCMan schrieb:

This makes sense.
Since we're not in Ubuntu family, there is no need to follow ubuntu schedule.
Let's take the time and make a good release rather than do things in a hurry.
Another benefit for the delay I found:
After ubuntu 10.04 release, there must be tons of bugs found. This is
predictable.
So, when we release, many bugs should have been fixed then we can make
a more stable release, isn't it?.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jo Gerbjo.ge.s...@googlemail.com  wrote:
   

i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a
beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more
programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first
lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro.
In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict.

Best regards, Jo.

2010/4/11 PCManpcman...@gmail.com
 

Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
git since there are some important fixes.
It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
things are going to be improved.
In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
to support them and provide better user experience.

In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
to test new features.
Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
environment.
So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
release a buggy one.
Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.

Cheers!

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Agreed. My experience especially with ZevenOS releases shows me that 
aprox. 1 month after Ubuntu release is a good time to release a ubuntu 
based distro as almost every critical bug has been fixed till then.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Today I hope :)

 Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important fixes.
Already done :)

 It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
This will not stop us to do a release :)
I plan to do a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
state of the project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread PCMan
OK, maybe some press release will be good.
BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
Please update again. :-)
Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very often.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 Today I hope :)

 Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important fixes.
 Already done :)

 It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
 This will not stop us to do a release :)
 I plan to do a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
 state of the project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: bug / problem in detailed list view

2010-04-11 Thread PCMan
Please can anyone reproduce this bug? It doesn't happen on my laptop.

-- Forwarded message --
From: M. Daub m.d...@web.de
Date: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:21 PM
Subject: bug / problem in detailed list view
To: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com


Dear PCMan,

first: thanks for your great work!

second: the problem:
On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing;
you said that you can't reproduce the problem with highlighting in detailed
view.

Because for me it's very annoying too, I'd like to describe it in more detail:

- using lubuntu with the most recent updates and with the desktop-ppa and
proposed-updates enabled.

- using pcmanfm 0.9.3 with detailed list view as default view for every folder

- At first start and at the fist screen I can select each folder and each file
with one click. And with the right-click I could open, open with, cut, ...
and so on.

- But if I go into a folder I cannot select any file or subfolder. With a
double-click I can open it, but I cannot selcect it with a one-click. And so
with a right-click I have only new, past, select all, ... and so on, but not
open, cut, ...

- If I change the view to compact view, then I can select what I want and
after that, if I change back to detailed list view then I can select the
items in that folder too. But after going into another folder the problem is
there and I cannot select anything.

Please take a look and fix the problem.
The detailed list view is the default view for a lot of people.

Thanks in advance!

Best regards

Marcus Daub

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Luther Goh Lu Feng
I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a small 
advantage to do so. We avoid all the noise from Ubuntu in the the other 
websites and blogs.




- Original Message 
 From: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com
 To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
 OK, maybe some press release will be good.
BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in 
 libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
Please update again. 
 :-)
Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very 
 often.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne 
 ymailto=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com; 
 href=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Le 
 dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Ubuntu beta 2 
 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
 Today I hope :)

 Before releasing beta 2, please get the 
 hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important 
 fixes.
 Already done :)

 It's a pity that Lubuntu 
 didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time 
 of 10.10.
 This will not stop us to do a release :)
 I plan to do 
 a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
 state of the 
 project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.

 
 Regards,
 Julien 
 Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Daniel Muntaner
Yeahh..Generating expectation, is a great advantage! :)

2010/4/11 Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com

 I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a
 small advantage to do so. We avoid all the noise from Ubuntu in the the
 other websites and blogs.




 - Original Message 
  From: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com
  To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
  Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
  OK, maybe some press release will be good.
 BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in
  libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
 Please update again.
  :-)
 Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very
  often.

 On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne 
  ymailto=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;
  href=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Le
  dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
  Ubuntu beta 2
  just came out.
  So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
  Today I hope :)
 
  Before releasing beta 2, please get the
  hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
  git since there are some important
  fixes.
  Already done :)
 
  It's a pity that Lubuntu
  didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
  we'll be ready at the time
  of 10.10.
  This will not stop us to do a release :)
  I plan to do
  a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
  state of the
  project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.
 
 
  Regards,
  Julien
  Lavergne
 
 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: bug / problem in detailed list view

2010-04-11 Thread Konstantin Lavrov
2010/4/11 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com:
 Please can anyone reproduce this bug? It doesn't happen on my laptop.

It is reproduced always on my netbook.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: bug / problem in detailed list view

2010-04-11 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 17:58 +0800, PCMan wrote: 
 Please can anyone reproduce this bug? It doesn't happen on my laptop.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: M. Daub m.d...@web.de
 Date: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:21 PM
 Subject: bug / problem in detailed list view
 To: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com
 
 
 Dear PCMan,
 
 first: thanks for your great work!
 
 second: the problem:
 On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing;
 you said that you can't reproduce the problem with highlighting in detailed
 view.
 
 Because for me it's very annoying too, I'd like to describe it in more detail:
 
 - using lubuntu with the most recent updates and with the desktop-ppa and
 proposed-updates enabled.
 
 - using pcmanfm 0.9.3 with detailed list view as default view for every folder
 
 - At first start and at the fist screen I can select each folder and each file
 with one click. And with the right-click I could open, open with, cut, ...
 and so on.
 
 - But if I go into a folder I cannot select any file or subfolder. With a
 double-click I can open it, but I cannot selcect it with a one-click. And so
 with a right-click I have only new, past, select all, ... and so on, but not
 open, cut, ...
 
 - If I change the view to compact view, then I can select what I want and
 after that, if I change back to detailed list view then I can select the
 items in that folder too. But after going into another folder the problem is
 there and I cannot select anything.
 
 Please take a look and fix the problem.
 The detailed list view is the default view for a lot of people.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Best regards
 
 Marcus Daub
 
There does appear to be a problem with Detailed List View. I’m not sure
if this is the same thing as described above.
If you select Detailed List View then open a folder and right click on a
file you get the menu with New, Paste, Select All, etc. IF you then Left
click on it and then right click you get the correct context menu with
Open, Open With... , etc.  If you then right click on a different type
of file you get the same context menu as previous.
E.g. If you left click then right click on a tar.gz file you get Open,
Xarchiver, Open With..., etc. If you then right click on a PDF file you
still get Open, Xarchiver, Open With... If you then left click and right
click on a PDF you get a context menu with Open, Document Viewer, Open
With..., etc.  I.e then correct context menu.  This only occurs in
Detailed List View. 
Hope this makes sense and is the same problem Marcus described.


-- 
Steve (YorvYk)

http://lubuntu.net/


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] [LXDE Translation] PCManFM 0.9.4 beta2 will be released in two days

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Bagge / brother

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, PCMan wrote:


For the future release of PCManFM/Libfm, there will be periods for
freeze like this, so we can get proper translation and testing before
release. :-)

This is the first step toward quality assurance.


bg: 0 translated messages, 145 untranslated messages.
ca: 0 translated messages, 145 untranslated messages.
cs: 145 translated messages.
da: 145 translated messages.
de: 138 translated messages, 7 fuzzy translations.
el: 145 translated messages.
en_GB: 145 translated messages.
es: 145 translated messages.
eu: 0 translated messages, 145 untranslated messages.
fo: 45 translated messages, 11 fuzzy translations, 89 untranslated 
messages.

fr: 145 translated messages.
he: 145 translated messages.
hu: 101 translated messages, 28 fuzzy translations, 16 untranslated 
messages.

it: 145 translated messages.
lt: 103 translated messages, 15 fuzzy translations, 27 untranslated 
messages.

pl: 145 translated messages.
pt: 145 translated messages.
pt_BR: 145 translated messages.
ru: 145 translated messages.
sl: 145 translated messages.
sv: 145 translated messages.
th: 0 translated messages, 145 untranslated messages.
uk: 145 translated messages.
zh_TW: 135 translated messages, 10 untranslated messages.

If your language code is not in the list it means that you have no file in 
the source tree and all strings needs to be translated.


Either add the file yourself to Tx or Pootle or drop me a note and I'll 
assist you.


--
brother

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi,

I've always advised people that lubuntu has to run a little later than
'main'. I'd back this with the fact the devs for 'main' did hold a beta back
by 24 hours because of issues; in fact going back to 6.06 was help back
precisely because of that. I totally support and am in 100% favour of
yourselves holding a release back and leave it marked as beta until you are
all ready. There are plenty enough people already 'playing' with Lubuntu to
make the first full 'official' release a good one, we are patient and you
possibly under estimate the general level of good-will that there is for
this new member of the family.

Besides, have you ever watched the wildlife programmes on Meerkats? Lubuntu
will be a pretty darn good Maverick Meerkat :-D

Thanks and regards to you all,

Phill.


On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Muntaner dan...@muntaner.netwrote:

 Yeahh..Generating expectation, is a great advantage! :)

 2010/4/11 Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com

 I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a
 small advantage to do so. We avoid all the noise from Ubuntu in the the
 other websites and blogs.




 - Original Message 
  From: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com
  To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
  Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
  OK, maybe some press release will be good.
 BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in
  libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
 Please update again.
  :-)
 Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very
  often.

 On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne 
  ymailto=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;
  href=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Le
  dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
  Ubuntu beta 2
  just came out.
  So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
  Today I hope :)
 
  Before releasing beta 2, please get the
  hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
  git since there are some important
  fixes.
  Already done :)
 
  It's a pity that Lubuntu
  didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
  we'll be ready at the time
  of 10.10.
  This will not stop us to do a release :)
  I plan to do
  a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
  state of the
  project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.
 
 
  Regards,
  Julien
  Lavergne
 
 

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Multiple Keyboards

2010-04-11 Thread Knapp
I often have to switch kezboards because I tzpe with a dvork kezboard
and mz wife tzpes German Kezboard but I can,t make it work on this
Lubuntu kezboard.  To make matters worse the y and z are switched.

Would love and help. I got the kezbaord switcher installed but I can,t
find a waz to add other kezbaord systems.
Thanks

-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project.
http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page
http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 2 Auto-login

2010-04-11 Thread Mike Nokel
2010/4/11 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com

 Hi,

 The Lubuntu Lucid Beta 2 is now available. Don't forget that it's build
 with Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) which is still in Beta state of development,
 so same warnings :

 Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
 system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
 frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
 and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

 We passed Feature Freeze, that mean most of the features should now be
 available. It's now time for testing and fixing bugs.

 == New stuff since Beta 1 ==
 * Auto-login at install time
 * Support encrypted home directory
 * Up-to-date lxdm, libfm and pcmanfm2

 == Specific Lubuntu changes ==
 Lubuntu still contains modifications not available in the official
 repository, you can see them in the Lubuntu PPA [1] :
 - New pcmanfm2 and libfm (LP: #523433)
 - lubuntu-default-settings with pcmanfm2 support
 - Fix for blurry shutdown-icon from elementary-icons (LP: #527345)
 - Autologin support in ubiquity (LP: #546445)
 - New lxdm

 == Testing needed ==
 I'll appreciate some feedbacks about the followings recent additions :
 - pcmanfm2, the new filemanager, is still in beta state. Please report
 bugs on
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing
 - The new lxdm may fixed some issue regarding the keyring and PAM
 support, but it needs more tests.

 == Known bugs ==
 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
 you click on Try Lubuntu  Just wait, it will continue as normal.
 * See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

 == Reporting bugs ==
 Bug reported during testing :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

 If you want to create a bootable usb system, please use the usb creator
 directly on Ubuntu.

 Please follow the testing process described on this page :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam . You can also
 report problems and bugs relative to the tests on this page.

 Torrent: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta2.iso.torrent
 Download: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta2.iso
 Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

 [1] :  https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa


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Excellent! I have booted up from livecd. You have fixed many bugs from the
previous beta and now almost everything is looking very exciting) However, I
have found 2 problems with pcmanfm:
1) when trying to access network in pcmanfm, I can see labels of my
computers in my network, but I can't access them.
2) when trying to run pcmanfm via sudo command, it crashes with segmentation
fault (core dumped).

As soon as I can find some free time, I will try to do fresh install and
will send you some more feedbacks.

Regards,
Michael
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[Lubuntu-desktop] State of the development

2010-04-11 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

I think it's a good time to do a quick summarize of the state of the
development of Lubuntu.

== About Lubuntu in the *buntu family ==

As you may know, Lubuntu will probably not be officially part of the
*buntu family. It doesn't mean we will never be part of it. 

More important, it will not stop us to release an iso. The question will
be : what is the statut of this iso. Stable ? Final ? RC ? Beta ? For
now, I'm inclined to make the statut RC, to mark we are not officially
in Ubuntu, but target to have a stable release.

Target for this release is still like others *buntu, end of April. We
may have some delay, depending of the state of Lubuntu at this time.


== About the state of Lubuntu ==

There are several main components which are very young : pcmanfm was
rewritten, and lxdm is quite new. I think the current state of pcmanfm
is quite good. For lxdm, due to many changes in the boot process of
Ubuntu, it was quite unstable during Lucid. I hope main issues are
resolved with the version in Beta2.

To be general, I'm quite happy with the performance result so far,
memory usage is low, CPU usage not too bad. I'm still think it needs
many more tests. General use cases should be ok, but intensive and
not-classic use cases can be more problematic. That's why reporting bugs
is important :-) We also lack some features for everyday uses. As we
can't fix them for this release, some works will remain for futur
release :-) 

To summarize, it's a good starting point, a preview of what Lubuntu is
capable.

Feedbacks over the web are mostly positive, it's a nice indicator, but
doesn't mean it's perfect.

To finish, it's not a technical point of view, but I think we have the
best artwork of all *buntu version ;-)


== About the work needed ==

There are still a lot of works to do, I'll do a summarize when the final
release will be out. For now, keep testing and report bugs please :-)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne 


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