Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] State of the development

2010-04-15 Thread Zoltan Matlak
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think it's a good time to do a quick summarize of the state of the
> development of Lubuntu.
>
> == About Lubuntu in the *buntu family ==
>
> As you may know, Lubuntu will probably not be officially part of the
> *buntu family. It doesn't mean we will never be part of it.
>
> More important, it will not stop us to release an iso. The question will
> be : what is the statut of this iso. Stable ? Final ? RC ? Beta ? For
> now, I'm inclined to make the statut RC, to mark we are not officially
> in Ubuntu, but target to have a stable release.
>
> Target for this release is still like others *buntu, end of April. We
> may have some delay, depending of the state of Lubuntu at this time.
>
>
> == About the state of Lubuntu ==
>
> There are several main components which are very young : pcmanfm was
> rewritten, and lxdm is quite new. I think the current state of pcmanfm
> is quite good. For lxdm, due to many changes in the boot process of
> Ubuntu, it was quite unstable during Lucid. I hope main issues are
> resolved with the version in Beta2.
>
> To be general, I'm quite happy with the performance result so far,
> memory usage is low, CPU usage not too bad. I'm still think it needs
> many more tests. General use cases should be ok, but intensive and
> not-classic use cases can be more problematic. That's why reporting bugs
> is important :-) We also lack some features for everyday uses. As we
> can't fix them for this release, some works will remain for futur
> release :-)
>
> To summarize, it's a good starting point, a preview of what Lubuntu is
> capable.
>
> Feedbacks over the web are mostly positive, it's a nice indicator, but
> doesn't mean it's perfect.
>
> To finish, it's not a technical point of view, but I think we have the
> best artwork of all *buntu version ;-)
>
>
> == About the work needed ==
>
> There are still a lot of works to do, I'll do a summarize when the final
> release will be out. For now, keep testing and report bugs please :-)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] memory leak

2010-04-15 Thread ¤•thony•¤ Rulez

I 
have the same problem installing firefox and check the memory usage, use
 firefox instead of chromium

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:41:37 +0100
From: phi...@phillw.net
To: yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] memory leak

Hi Steve
top - 16:08:54 up 35 min,  1 user,  load average: 1.07, 0.71, 0.45Tasks: 114 
total,   1 running, 113 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombieCpu(s):  9.3%us,  
2.0%sy,  0.3%ni, 87.4%id,  0.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   1016908k total,   559736k used,   457172k free,19948k buffers
top - 20:40:50 up  5:07,  1 user,  load average: 0.38, 0.52, 0.60Tasks: 118 
total,   1 running, 117 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.3%us,  0.7%sy,  0.3%ni, 98.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  
0.0%stMem:   1016908k total,   845600k used,   171308k free,47212k buffers
I'm running Chromium and pidgin only, on a 'clean' Beta2 install (I have LAMP 
on my other one and wanted to remove that from the possible cause).

I'm rather stuck :-(
Regards,
Phill.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Steve  wrote:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:22:42 +0100, Phillip Whiteside  wrote:





hi Steve,



you will have read 'war and peace' which is why I missed you on IRC.

Addons... Hmmm,



1) Full LAMP Server aka 'main' Ubuntu - Updated as per updates by them; be

very surprised if it were that, else all hell would break out but I'm sure

the leak was here before that.



2) Chromium daily ppa - There WAS a memory leak but it was fixed ages ago -

that's why I changed to daily ppa a few weeks back.



3) All the stuff that pcman had me install to be able to compile pcmanfm

from source with debug on



I use pidjin for my Im/IRC stuff, bog-standard no additional stuff on that

one as they can cause problems. I found xChat to be very memory hungry, and

need IM as well as IRC



If you know of no-one seeing it, I'll put the beta2 onto a 'clean' partition

& see how it runs, the leak has always been very evident within a few hours.




No sign of a memory leak here at the moment on beta 2..





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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] memory leak

2010-04-15 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi Steve

top - 16:08:54 up 35 min,  1 user,  load average: 1.07, 0.71, 0.45
Tasks: 114 total,   1 running, 113 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  9.3%us,  2.0%sy,  0.3%ni, 87.4%id,  0.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.3%si,
 0.0%st
Mem:   1016908k total,   559736k used,   457172k free,19948k buffers

top - 20:40:50 up  5:07,  1 user,  load average: 0.38, 0.52, 0.60
Tasks: 118 total,   1 running, 117 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.3%us,  0.7%sy,  0.3%ni, 98.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
 0.0%st
Mem:   1016908k total,   845600k used,   171308k free,47212k buffers

I'm running Chromium and pidgin only, on a 'clean' Beta2 install (I have
LAMP on my other one and wanted to remove that from the possible cause).

I'm rather stuck :-(

Regards,

Phill.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Steve  wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:22:42 +0100, Phillip Whiteside 
> wrote:
>
>  hi Steve,
>>
>> you will have read 'war and peace' which is why I missed you on IRC.
>> Addons... Hmmm,
>>
>> 1) Full LAMP Server aka 'main' Ubuntu - Updated as per updates by them; be
>> very surprised if it were that, else all hell would break out but I'm sure
>> the leak was here before that.
>>
>> 2) Chromium daily ppa - There WAS a memory leak but it was fixed ages ago
>> -
>> that's why I changed to daily ppa a few weeks back.
>>
>> 3) All the stuff that pcman had me install to be able to compile pcmanfm
>> from source with debug on
>>
>> I use pidjin for my Im/IRC stuff, bog-standard no additional stuff on that
>> one as they can cause problems. I found xChat to be very memory hungry,
>> and
>> need IM as well as IRC
>>
>> If you know of no-one seeing it, I'll put the beta2 onto a 'clean'
>> partition
>> & see how it runs, the leak has always been very evident within a few
>> hours.
>>
>>  No sign of a memory leak here at the moment on beta 2..
>
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] memory leak

2010-04-15 Thread Steve
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:22:42 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



hi Steve,

you will have read 'war and peace' which is why I missed you on IRC.
Addons... Hmmm,

1) Full LAMP Server aka 'main' Ubuntu - Updated as per updates by them;  
be
very surprised if it were that, else all hell would break out but I'm  
sure

the leak was here before that.

2) Chromium daily ppa - There WAS a memory leak but it was fixed ages  
ago -

that's why I changed to daily ppa a few weeks back.

3) All the stuff that pcman had me install to be able to compile pcmanfm
from source with debug on

I use pidjin for my Im/IRC stuff, bog-standard no additional stuff on  
that
one as they can cause problems. I found xChat to be very memory hungry,  
and

need IM as well as IRC

If you know of no-one seeing it, I'll put the beta2 onto a 'clean'  
partition
& see how it runs, the leak has always been very evident within a few  
hours.



No sign of a memory leak here at the moment on beta 2..


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu logout menu does not offer "switch user"

2010-04-15 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le jeudi 15 avril 2010 à 11:06 +0100, Oliver Schonrock a écrit :
> Great job on Lubuntu, awesome performance, might be switching from kubuntu!
> 
> There seems to be no way to "switch user".  Logout menu or elsewhere that I 
> could find.

This feature is only available if you use gdm for the display manager
instead of lxdm. It is something on the TODO list of the lxdm
developers :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing report - network manager

2010-04-15 Thread Andrew Woodhead
If you then run:

sudo iwlist scan

Do you see the network?

You may have to connect to it after you make it.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Roger Dean
wrote:

> Hi there
>
> Congrats and thanks for all the hard work with Lubuntu!
>
> I've noticed that lubuntu B2 (updated) doesn't seem able to 'create new
> wireless network'. Steps to reproduce -
>
> 1. Click network icon in notification area, and select 'create new
> wireless network'
> 2. Select wireless security 'none', give the network a name and click
> 'create'
> 3. Network manager tries and fails to create the network. Notifies
> 'disconnected'
>
> This is reproducible every time, and I've tried it on a thinkpad x60s
> and an eee 901. Network creation works fine on ubuntu lucid B2. I've not
> tried the other security options, but I think there's something to look
> at here anyway
>
> Cheers
> Roger
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Testing report - network manager

2010-04-15 Thread Roger Dean
Hi there

Congrats and thanks for all the hard work with Lubuntu!

I've noticed that lubuntu B2 (updated) doesn't seem able to 'create new
wireless network'. Steps to reproduce -

1. Click network icon in notification area, and select 'create new
wireless network'
2. Select wireless security 'none', give the network a name and click
'create'
3. Network manager tries and fails to create the network. Notifies
'disconnected'

This is reproducible every time, and I've tried it on a thinkpad x60s
and an eee 901. Network creation works fine on ubuntu lucid B2. I've not
tried the other security options, but I think there's something to look
at here anyway

Cheers
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[Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu logout menu does not offer "switch user"

2010-04-15 Thread Oliver Schonrock
Great job on Lubuntu, awesome performance, might be switching from kubuntu!

There seems to be no way to "switch user".  Logout menu or elsewhere that I 
could find.

Using a fresh install of the latest Lucid beta2 fully updated.

Other users have also noticed this, although there is some disagreement:
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1382584.html

Is this feature intentionally omitted (because you should not be running 
multiple X-sessions on slow hardware), or is this a bug/omission?

happy to help test, etc...


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