Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] time-admin missing in 11.04 ?
Le samedi 02 avril 2011 à 12:24 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : > In Lubuntu 10.10, gnome-system-tools included /usr/bin/time-admin > which > was a little GUI tool for changing time and date preferences. Lubuntu > used this in the Preferences menu item "Time and Date". > > It no longer seems to exist. Does anyone know what happened to it, > and > whether there is a replacement tool which should be in the Lubuntu > menus > now, but is not? It moved to another package (gnome-time-admin). I updated the meta-package, but forgot to upload it before the Beta. It should be ok after the update of lubuntu-desktop. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] time-admin missing in 11.04 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In Lubuntu 10.10, gnome-system-tools included /usr/bin/time-admin which was a little GUI tool for changing time and date preferences. Lubuntu used this in the Preferences menu item "Time and Date". It no longer seems to exist. Does anyone know what happened to it, and whether there is a replacement tool which should be in the Lubuntu menus now, but is not? Thanks, Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2Xd+sACgkQUGfT4+mKBLKDbACdF6kF+Ssu395TwERWocrWBZW/ nlgAniM0DAkckLasvFmJ5NgkZ21TKQuS =ck0T -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left in Lubuntu?
Am Samstag 02 April 2011, um 20:56:03 schrieb Tyler Raper: > Is there any way to include both install types on the same CD, this would > allow the user to choose either graphical or non-graphical. If that is not > an option then I believe that the non-graphical install would be the best > solution in order to make installation work best on all systems. However, > the graphical installer is slick and nice looking, if it was possible to > have one look that nice and use less memory that would be ideal. Just a few > thoughts. > You can include both but as the debian installer (text based installer) does not support the ubuntu live installation it needs its own repository with all the basic system stuff and the lubuntu packages. So packaging both live system (with live installer) and installation system (repo+debian installer) would exceed the 700 MB cd image limit. > > > From: lubuntu-desktop-bounces+tsr386=sbcglobal@lists.launchpad.net > [mailto:lubuntu-desktop-bounces+tsr386=sbcglobal@lists.launchpad.net] > On Behalf Of PYROcomp > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 10:59 AM > To: Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset > Cc: lubuntu-desktop > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left > in Lubuntu? > > > > +1 > > > .___. > / \ > > | O _ O | > > /\_/\ >.' / \ `. > / _| |_ \ > (_/ | | \_) >\ / >__\_>-<_/__ > ~;/ \;~ > Don't mess with the penguin! > > > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 09:24, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset > wrote: > > +1 here too for no-graphical-installer by default that's way too heavy for > the machines Lubuntu is targetting. > > > > -- > > jpxsat > > 2011/4/2 Mikhail Maksimov > > +1 for handling alternate CD as a "main" distribution, > > 2011/3/31 Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré > > +1 alternate CD - It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is > 192MB, but with 256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very > old computer. > > 2011/3/30 PCMan > > Text based installer + 1. > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left in Lubuntu?
Is there any way to include both install types on the same CD, this would allow the user to choose either graphical or non-graphical. If that is not an option then I believe that the non-graphical install would be the best solution in order to make installation work best on all systems. However, the graphical installer is slick and nice looking, if it was possible to have one look that nice and use less memory that would be ideal. Just a few thoughts. From: lubuntu-desktop-bounces+tsr386=sbcglobal@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:lubuntu-desktop-bounces+tsr386=sbcglobal@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of PYROcomp Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 10:59 AM To: Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset Cc: lubuntu-desktop Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left in Lubuntu? +1 .___. / \ | O _ O | /\_/\ .' / \ `. / _| |_ \ (_/ | | \_) \ / __\_>-<_/__ ~;/ \;~ Don't mess with the penguin! On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 09:24, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: +1 here too for no-graphical-installer by default that's way too heavy for the machines Lubuntu is targetting. -- jpxsat 2011/4/2 Mikhail Maksimov +1 for handling alternate CD as a "main" distribution, 2011/3/31 Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré +1 alternate CD - It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is 192MB, but with 256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very old computer. 2011/3/30 PCMan Text based installer + 1. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left in Lubuntu?
+1 .___. / \ | O _ O | /\_/\ .' / \ `. / _| |_ \ (_/ | | \_) \ / __\_>-<_/__ ~;/ \;~ Don't mess with the penguin! On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 09:24, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: > +1 here too for no-graphical-installer by default that's way too heavy for > the machines Lubuntu is targetting. > > -- > jpxsat > > 2011/4/2 Mikhail Maksimov > >> +1 for handling alternate CD as a "main" distribution, >> 2011/3/31 Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré >> >>> +1 alternate CD - It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is >>> 192MB, but with 256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very >>> old computer. >>> 2011/3/30 PCMan >>> Text based installer + 1. >>> >>> > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left in Lubuntu?
+1 here too for no-graphical-installer by default that's way too heavy for the machines Lubuntu is targetting. -- jpxsat 2011/4/2 Mikhail Maksimov > +1 for handling alternate CD as a "main" distribution, > 2011/3/31 Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré > >> +1 alternate CD - It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is >> 192MB, but with 256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very >> old computer. >> 2011/3/30 PCMan >> >>> Text based installer + 1. >> >> ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left in Lubuntu?
+1 for handling alternate CD as a "main" distribution, with an option to switch to LiveCD+Ubiquity for those who install Lubuntu on more resource-rich configurations. Regards, Mikhail 2011/3/31 Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré > +1 alternate CD > It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is 192MB, but with > 256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very old computer. > > My suggestion it´s to share a text install (alternate CD) by default. > Anyway now Lubuntu isn't for beginners Linux user, so with a text install no > body will be complicated. (My experience: the first Linux distro that i > install [Ubuntu 7.04], i installed with the alternate CD, with my 256MB of > ram memory [and Pentium 4 celeron] was impossible to install with GUI. Even > if was my first install i could do it without a problem. The installations > it´s intuitive. > Sorry for my English. > > 2011/3/30 PCMan > >> Text based installer + 1. >> The alternate CD with console-based UI is good enough IMO if it can >> have l10n user interface. >> Windows installer has long been text-based since windows 3.1 and it's >> still text-based in windows xp. Nobody complains of this so why should >> we insist that there should be a graphical one? >> Yes, if you boot from Windows xp installer cd on a machine without OS, >> you'll enter text-based installer. The GUI part is only available >> after the basic system is set up. >> >> Actually, we can do the same. >> The text-based installer (part I) only installs base system and core >> components and then reboot and automatically login X11 with a super >> user. After boot, a GUI-based installer (part II) is launched and >> continues the remaining parts. This can make things much easier. >> >> The only problem with this approach is, we cannot have a good >> GUI-based UI for partitioning. Windows XP handle this in text-mode, >> too. However, I see no real problem here. The rationale is quite >> simple. >> >> Users who doesn't know how to use text-based UI are also the ones that >> will almost always choose "automatic partitioning". Others who like to >> use "customized" and "manual partitioning" are definitely advanced >> power users who don't need a GUI installer. >> So don't put 80% of development resources to do what only 20% people need. >> >> Please, if someone know how to work with the text-based debian >> installer, consider this approach. Let's set up a base system with the >> text-based one, and continue the remainng parts in a GUI installer >> after rebooting into X11. This is also what Windows does. >> >> Comments? >> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset >> wrote: >> >> >> Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory >> footprint >> >> >> of the installer for 11.04. >> >> >> >> The other question this poses is, is it really necessary to have a >> >> graphical installer as the default for Lubuntu? >> > >> > Some time ago, there was a question on the mailing list "What do you >> expect >> > from Lubuntu" and i think that a very important point is "it will go >> where >> > Ubuntu can't" or something like that. >> > A graphical installer is something that we do only one time (in theory) >> so >> > if it's a little "ugly" (text) IMHO i don't see the problem. >> > -- >> > jpxsat >> > >> > ___ >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> > >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
