Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Uninstalled package asks for updates in updatemanager
On 10/05/2011 23:29, Lee Gold wrote:
Hi,
Following your instructions, here's what I get. Could it be that only
the graphic utility - the Update Manager - has the problem? Anyway here
is the output of the command:
giga1@giga1:~$ aptitude full-upgrade --show-deps --simulate
The following packages will be REMOVED:
cryptsetup{u} dcraw{u} dmraid{u} ecryptfs-utils{u} gedit-common{u}
keyutils{u} (D: ecryptfs-utils) libasound2-plugins{u}
libdmraid1.0.0.rc16{u} (D: dmraid) libecryptfs0{u} (D:
ecryptfs-utils)
libgtksourceview2.0-0{u} (D: python-gtksourceview2)
libgtksourceview2.0-common{u} (D: libgtksourceview2.0-0)
libspeexdsp1{u} (D: libasound2-plugins) localechooser-data{u}
lzma{u}
ndiswrapper-common{u} python-gtksourceview2{u} python-pyicu{u}
rdate{u} reiserfsprogs{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
libjson-glib-1.0-0 libperl5.10 perl perl-base perl-modules php5
php5-cgi php5-cli php5-common php5-gd php5-mysql xdg-utils
12 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 19 to remove and 0 not
upgraded.
Need to get 18.4MB of archives. After unpacking 9,396kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
Would download/install/remove packages.
giga1@giga1:~$
Hi Lee,
The output from aptitude doesn't show anything about wanting to install apache.
I can't think of a reason update-manager would want to install apache, in that
case. Perhaps there's a bug in update-manager, and you should file it at
http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager
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Kind regards,
Loong Jin
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.
Dumb question. Why doesn't startup disk creator recognize the 64-bit iso? It won't let me make a bootable usb stick. Thanks, Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.comwrote: Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this is released to the public. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ? Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll upload it to http://phillw.netphillw.net during this evening. So we will have a mirror of it. Who will upload it to a torrent site? I'm eager to seed after I have it. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis: http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.isomd5sum = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6 Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400 Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.comkend...@peppermintos.com wrote: I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg package that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the i386 as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones used in the amd64 Xubuntu build. Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ? If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- Kendall Weaver CTO, Peppermint LLC 828-489-9757 kend...@peppermintos.comkend...@peppermintos.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Kendall Weaver CTO, Peppermint LLC 828-489-9757 kend...@peppermintos.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.
Not yet, but I will as soon as I get home. nbsp; -- Sent from my Palm Pre On May 12, 2011 3:36 PM, Andrew Woodhead lt;andrew.woodhead...@gmail.comgt; wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Tim Bernhard lt;ohiom...@gmail.comgt; wrote: Dumb question.nbsp; Why doesn't startup disk creator recognize the 64-bit iso?nbsp; It won't let me make a bootable usb stick. Thanks, Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver lt;kend...@peppermintos.comgt; wrote: Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this is released to the public. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne lt;gi...@ubuntu.comgt; wrote: Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ? Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult lt;hul...@gmail.comgt; a écritnbsp;: I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening. So we will have a mirror of it. Who will upload it to a torrent site?I'm eager to seed after I have it. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver lt;kend...@peppermintos.comgt; wrote: Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis: http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso md5sum =nbsp;f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6 Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne lt;gi...@ubuntu.comgt; wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400 Kendall Weaver lt;kend...@peppermintos.comgt; wrote: gt; I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu gt; 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg package gt; that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing gt; it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the i386 gt; as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test gt; are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows gt; system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be gt; made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones gt; used in the amd64 Xubuntu build. Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ? If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- Kendall WeaverCTO, Peppermint llc828-489-9757kend...@peppermintos.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to nbsp; nbsp; : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help nbsp; : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help nbsp;nbsp;: https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to nbsp; nbsp; : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help nbsp; : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Kendall WeaverCTO, Peppermint llc828-489-9757kend...@peppermintos.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to nbsp; nbsp; : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help nbsp; : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to nbsp; nbsp; : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help nbsp; : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Did you nbsp;MD5 test the ISO? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.
Thanks Andrew. I knew it was a dumb question. BAD md5sum. I was in a rush to leave for work and didn't bother to check it. Just got another copy, checked the md5 and created the USB stick. I'll test it out later and report back if I have any issues. Tim On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: Not yet, but I will as soon as I get home. -- Sent from my Palm Pre -- On May 12, 2011 3:36 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote: Dumb question. Why doesn't startup disk creator recognize the 64-bit iso? It won't let me make a bootable usb stick. Thanks, Tim On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this is released to the public. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote: Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ? Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll upload it to http://phillw.netphillw.net during this evening. So we will have a mirror of it. Who will upload it to a torrent site? I'm eager to seed after I have it. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis: http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.isomd5sum = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6 Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400 Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.comkend...@peppermintos.com wrote: I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg package that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the i386 as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones used in the amd64 Xubuntu build. Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ? If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- Kendall Weaver CTO, Peppermint LLC 828-489-9757 kend...@peppermintos.comkend...@peppermintos.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Kendall Weaver CTO, Peppermint LLC 828-489-9757 kend...@peppermintos.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Did you MD5 test the
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.
On Thu, 12 May 2011 Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. It's interesting to see the differences between the
way things are done here at Lubuntu versus other projects I maintain or
contribute to (in addition to Peppermint, I also build the Linux Mint LXDE
and Fluxbox editions). At Peppermint, all testing and developer
collaboration is very locked down ...
While it can have its downside too, I like the be open/public, don't
make a big distinction between those with commit privs and those without
them, make decisions in public view approach. It is also the approach
recommended by Karl Fogel's book Producing Free Software
http://producingoss.com , at least as I understand/intrepret what Karl
says. Worth reading :)
It really is kind of crazy how quickly this was leaked. Do know that this
was not my intention, I just wanted to do something nice for you guys.
Oh, sure! I didn't see the appearance of your ISO as a negative event,
but it may mean that if we do release an official Lubuntu 11.04 amd64
ISO at some stage, finding out whether users have that one, or yours,
when doing support, may be a minor challenge (although see below re.
your volume id!)
I guess it's kind of a habit to go ahead and set labels. Setting this stuff
is usually the first thing I do when putting together an .iso file. I've
seen far too many official images that have been mislabeled in my life so
I usually just go ahead and set this up without thinking much about it.
If the script does the labelling, it is much harder to get wrong than
if a human has to remember to change it each time by hand, see below :)
I'm not sure how the real Ubuntu image creation setup handles this; I suspect
I'll get to know it fairly deeply in a few weeks time!
I want to be able to use that infrastructure to create and publish
daily or weekly ISO images as we progress through Alpha and Beta for
11.10. It is already set up for doing that. In contrast, that high a
frequency of image updating is probably beyond the patience of most
humans, even if they are as comfortable and experienced with
hand-creating ISOs as you seem to be :)
On that note, signing .iso files is a rather
fantastic idea and I'll consider this in Peppermint and will bring it up to
Clem at Linux Mint and see what he says.
Go for it... our script does something like
IMAGE_NAME=Lubuntu ${release} $(date -u +%Y%m%d) - ${arch}
ISOFILE=lubuntu-${release}-$(date -u +%Y%m%d)-${arch}.iso
sudo mkisofs -r -V $IMAGE_NAME -cache-inodes -J -l \
-b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat \
-no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \
--publisher Lubuntu Packaging Team \
--volset Ubuntu Linux http://www.ubuntu.com; \
-p ${DEBFULLNAME:-$USER} ${DEBEMAIL:-on host $(hostname --fqdn)} \
-A $IMAGE_NAME \
-m filesystem.squashfs \
-o ../$ISOFILE .
at the moment. ISO images have many fields in them for info on
the publisher, application, etc., in the ISO filesystem header -- so we
might as well fill some of them in! Your image seems to be leaving all
of Volume set id, Data preparer id, and Publisher id empty, and using
the default (an ad for genisoimage!) in the application id.
If you don't want to remember all the option switches, you can create a
~/.genisoimagerc file with a set of strings that will become your new
defaults -- that might suit your style of ISO creation better than the
lengthy command above :)
If I were in your shoes I would go ahead and take a bit of time to address
the current build script. Causality is very important in my opinion and
regardless of the potential future obsolescence of the script, moving
forward with that knowledge strikes me as more sound than moving forward
without it.
Agreed in principle; my time for all this is not infinite though :)
As long as each component is correct and in the
correct location, then I don't see why it matters how each one got there.
Repeatability, ease of automated daily builds, etc. are the main
pluses I can see that are difficult for humans to match. At least in
theory, with a script you only make a mistake once; thereafter you fix
the script, and that particular mistake will not happen again :)
..., it's been rather obvious that the demand for a well put together
Ubuntu based 64 bit LXDE distro has been there for a while.
Agreed, although I'm a little puzzled by it; generally speaking 64bit
addressing doesn't get you anything useful until you have 4GB or more
of RAM, and most 64bit PC CPUs are multicore; run on that level of PC
hardware, the extra overhead of GNOME or Xfce is really not all that
noticeable/bad, IMO. I'm not discouraging 64bit Lubuntu at all, once we
have an official one, I'm likely to run it on my own main development
PC, ... *but* I'm not really sure why there is so much interest in a
64bit LXDE-based distro. Are there really a lot of slow, old, low-RAM
64bit PCs out there that people feel a need to run a
