Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:14:33 +0100 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 19:33:33 +0200 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Sunday 15 May 2011 à 04:19 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : My 1st draft, Yes, it is only a skeleton. Before I put flesh on the bones with all the links etc. Is this okay as the template? Thank you. Some comments : IMO, we should had the last version on top of the page. We should encourage people to use the last version. Don't forget to add a comment about community ISO (alternate 64 bits). Also, you should remove the LTS mention on 10.04. It's not technically a LTS (only Ubuntu and Kubuntu are). It could make confusion for users, we don't do all the security support that LTS have. But, we try to support it as much as possible, mostly by providing a backport PPA (LXDE PPA) and some updates to the Lubuntu PPA. I can do the text for this if you want. This isn't true. As support for i586 chip sets has been dropped from the kernel by the kernel developers for Linux from the 10.10 series onwards, 10.04 Has all the details. It would appear I forgot the rest of this :) It's Ubuntu that's dropped the i386, i486, i586 support not the kernel/Linux developers. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
Le Monday 16 May 2011 à 09:36 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : It would appear I forgot the rest of this :) It's Ubuntu that's dropped the i386, i486, i586 support not the kernel/Linux developers. Dropped from the kernel and GCC, to be precise. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
Le Sunday 15 May 2011 à 18:23 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : If I understand you correctly, Lubuntu 11.04 default install would (just!) fit on a 2GB (binary GB) disk. That's pretty lightweight; can you name any common desktop or laptop i386 PC architecture machines made in the the last ten years for general end user use (i.e. not embedded designs) that have less than 2GB of disk storage? Well there is the space to install the system, and the space to use it :) You need to have a btt of space free to be confortable to use the system. However, having a system that could be installed on 3 Gb, I pretty happy with the result. Like Jonathan said, if you can determine use cases when it's not enough, we can try to work on them. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of UDS regarding Lubuntu
Hi, This is a quick summarize of the UDS, and some impacts on Lubuntu development : == Lubuntu and official status == Like said during the session, we are on track for official status. Infrastructure problems are going to be solved and Lubuntu adding to the list of flavors. We have all the authorizations for it, so I'm pretty sure it will happen this cycle. Once we have a build to test, I can announce the birth of Lubuntu :) We will have to work on stabilize the new ISOs, but I'll write again when it will be available. == Work during this cycle == Like said during the session, a lot of work will be necessary to be ready for gtk3 migration. I don't expect many new exciting features, unless others people come and help and various projects. == Rewrite of the TODO page == To help to know where there is work to do, I re-used my TODO page for Lubuntu to be used by others. You can find it on : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO Let me explain the different sections : * Bitesize : It's little bugs that should be easy to fix, and are suitable for new comers. * Projects : It's more than bitesize :) It's more difficult / long to implement, suitable for people who want to work on a more long-term project. * Discussed projects : items that are discussed, but we are not sure if it's useful, suitable, or possible for Lubuntu. * Packaging : items relative to packaging, for Debian or Ubuntu. * Upstreaming : it's tasks to be done directly on upstream side. * Project Organization : task for the general organisation of the project. * Documentation : Various items for documentation. * Later / To triage : not up to date, don't look at it :) When you want to work on an item, you should put your name at the beginning of the line, or put your name in the table. It should avoid duplicate work. == Other == All should be summarize in the TODO page. If I missed something, let me know. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
Le Monday 16 May 2011 à 14:30 +0200, UndiFineD a écrit : Well, we have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Docs/SoD2011 that could mean we create a list of pages to be created and hopefully along with current existing docs. Why not. Do we have already a list of pages that need updates, or work, or creations ... ? Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
Hiyas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GetLubuntu It is still quite skeletal whilst I ensure I get all the variants in! I will add the links to the community pages and then ensure that they are all upto date before I make that page 'live'. Comments, as always are appreciated. Regards, Phill. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Monday 16 May 2011 à 09:36 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : It would appear I forgot the rest of this :) It's Ubuntu that's dropped the i386, i486, i586 support not the kernel/Linux developers. Dropped from the kernel and GCC, to be precise. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
Hiyas Julien and Kiempe, There are several links on the community section of pages that still link back to the 'old' wiki. Once the GetLubuntu page and it's associated pages are finished, I'll make a start. But if the kind people from SoD want to dive in and check that I've not missed any links, it would be appreciated. It's not the most exciting work in the world, copying and pasting pages but is pretty essential for when we depreciate the 'old' Documents and Help area. As we get them checked, diverts can be put on the 'old' pages for those who have the 'old' pages bookmarked as per Julien's request. Regards, Phill. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Monday 16 May 2011 à 14:30 +0200, UndiFineD a écrit : Well, we have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Docs/SoD2011 that could mean we create a list of pages to be created and hopefully along with current existing docs. Why not. Do we have already a list of pages that need updates, or work, or creations ... ? Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.04 translation errors
Hello, thank you for your reply.Just to give more feedbacks over this issue I would like to inform you thatafter selcting the chinese language (zh_cn) on the log-in window at start upfrom the list:- I will always have the date on the top right of the log-in window written inchinese even I select any different language and reboot or shutdown and restart severaltimes.- I cannot have anymore a selection of languages in case I want to switch languageWhe I installed lubuntu I had a dropdown selection box for the language showing default an morewritten in my language (italian) .. I selected more and it showed a second menu containing just a fewselections just italina english in many flavours and a few ones I cannot remember and chinese (zh_cn)first I choosed en_gb, then get back in it_it and then I choosed zh_cn .. after that the second menuis only showing the chooses I made en_gb, it_it and zh_cn .. no way to get more languages Cheers Le Friday 13 May 2011 à 18:32 +0200, write@xx a écrit : I would like to advice the community of a little problem of translation. Installing the new lubuntu 11.04, if you right-click on the desktop a context menu is shown with Create New... as first row In italian this might be Nuovo as it was in the previous version 10.10 I also tried to change the language on loggin-in selecting for example chinese and this row always remains shown in english as Create New..., maybe it can't be translated anymore in the new version 11.04 It's because the translations are not up-to-date in Lubuntu. It should be fixed in the next version. A second minor thing: I also noticed that if you move the mouse over the shutdown icon on the bottom right a pop-up menu is shown with the label Shutdown, the same of the previous version 10.10 but in my opinion this would be better translated as Chiudi. Thanks for the report. It's actually a real bug, see Regards, Julien Lavergne Non temiamo alcun confronto: Tiscali ha l'Adsl più veloce d'Italia! Risparmia con Tutto Incluso Light: Voce + Adsl 20 mega a soli 17,95 € al mese per 12 mesi. http://abbonati.tiscali.it/telefono-adsl/prodotti/tc/tuttoincluso_light/?WT.mc_id=01fw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Hibernate / Suspend not working properly on Lubuntu 11.04
Hello guys, in my lubuntu 11.04 if I click on the shutdown icon on the bottom right of the bottom panel and then: - I choose *suspend* - it properly stops my pc but NOT its fans which continue on going at the same speed.It properly resume the supsended session if I click something. - I choose *hibernation* - it writes some error on the screen like[some number] codec write timeout, status = 0x660repeated more times, and then it stops my pc, but at the next restart of lubuntuit starts normally with no restored session.I've got 2Gb of ram and a swap of 10Gb, the swap is correctly formatted,listed on /etc/fstab and mounted. Cheers Non temiamo alcun confronto: Tiscali ha l'Adsl più veloce d'Italia! Risparmia con Tutto Incluso Light: Voce + Adsl 20 mega a soli 17,95 € al mese per 12 mesi. http://abbonati.tiscali.it/telefono-adsl/prodotti/tc/tuttoincluso_light/?WT.mc_id=01fw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
Le Monday 16 May 2011 à 15:26 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GetLubuntu It is still quite skeletal whilst I ensure I get all the variants in! I will add the links to the community pages and then ensure that they are all upto date before I make that page 'live'. Comments, as always are appreciated. Ok for me, thanks for your work on this :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
If I understand you correctly, Lubuntu 11.04 default install would (just!) fit on a 2GB (binary GB) disk. Correct. *And* the resulting install will likely be unusable due to the lack of free space. That's pretty lightweight; can you name any common desktop or laptop i386 PC architecture machines made in the the last ten years for general end user use (i.e. not embedded designs) that have less than 2GB of disk storage? I'm not sure is it common or not, but many early netbooks have ridiculously small drives. Some Asus EEE models have 2GB SSD. Hewlett Packard 6720t features just 1 GB SSD (I'm shocked!!!) On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: Earlier, I wrote: I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. to On 05/15/2011 12:44 AM, Mikhail Maksimov wrote: No it can not. Tests done on alpha3 show that the system requires at least 2000 MB (decimal M) just to install with almost no free space left. Too bad Lubuntu is no longer lightweight in terms of disk footprint. Thanks for taking the time to do the testing :) If I understand you correctly, Lubuntu 11.04 default install would (just!) fit on a 2GB (binary GB) disk. That's pretty lightweight; can you name any common desktop or laptop i386 PC architecture machines made in the the last ten years for general end user use (i.e. not embedded designs) that have less than 2GB of disk storage? Setting the limit down from 5.3GB to 2.7GB seems to have helped everyone I know of who has come across this issue (most seem to have 3GB or 4GB disk space available). Is there really a sizeable community of Lubuntu users with total disk space between 1.8GB and 2.0GB that we need to try to help out? If so, who are they -- can they please identify themselves? Thanks, Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks
Per this page does this mean the listed packages require apport hooks? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#Packaging Ubuntu / Debian tasks Also i thought packages in the ubuntu repository had hooks per this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Package Hooks Or am i missing the point all together here? -- God Bless ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks
Le Tuesday 17 May 2011 à 00:36 +0300, matthew byers a écrit : Per this page does this mean the listed packages require apport hooks? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#Packaging Ubuntu / Debian tasks Also i thought packages in the ubuntu repository had hooks per this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Package Hooks You need to write a apport hook to collect additional informations, such as configuration files, list of packages installed ... It's something you need to add manually, to extend apport support. Example, for libfm/pcmanfm : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/libfm/oneiric/view/head:/debian/apport/source_libfm.py Currently, not all LXDE packages have a hook, the list is on the TODO page. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks
Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With that being said, due to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997 I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if anybody has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10 until this is resolved. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Tuesday 17 May 2011 à 00:36 +0300, matthew byers a écrit : Per this page does this mean the listed packages require apport hooks? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#Packaging Ubuntu / Debian tasks Also i thought packages in the ubuntu repository had hooks per this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Package Hooks You need to write a apport hook to collect additional informations, such as configuration files, list of packages installed ... It's something you need to add manually, to extend apport support. Example, for libfm/pcmanfm : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/libfm/oneiric/view/head:/debian/apport/source_libfm.py Currently, not all LXDE packages have a hook, the list is on the TODO page. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- God Bless ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
