Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Le Sunday 12 June 2011 à 01:21 +0800, PCMan a écrit : A new release as 0.9.9 is required. Please help review and test the code in git. Thanks a lot. Thanks PCMan. So far, It's working nice on L/Ubuntu 10.10. Some comments : - Please bump the soname of your library each time you change your API. Distributions can do smooth transitions between versions of libfm/pcmanfm. Also, if you expect other applications to use libfm, you need to use the soname. - Is it possible to force a reload when you do any operations on a remote place ? When I create a file on my sftp place, I expect that it appears on pcmanfm after the creation. Monitoring is not needed, but any user interactions should affect what pcmanfm shows. - I'm not sure having the tabs above the sidebar is good. I personally prefer to have them just above the main window, like Nautilus do. But maybe other people like this behavior ? - Don't hesitate to do releases often, it's better for distributions :) Even if bugs are discovered shortly after the release, you can still do a quick X.X.1 release to fix this. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Sunday 12 June 2011 à 01:21 +0800, PCMan a écrit : A new release as 0.9.9 is required. Please help review and test the code in git. Thanks a lot. Thanks PCMan. So far, It's working nice on L/Ubuntu 10.10. Some comments : - Please bump the soname of your library each time you change your API. Distributions can do smooth transitions between versions of libfm/pcmanfm. Also, if you expect other applications to use libfm, you need to use the soname. I want to do this for stable tarball releases only. In current stage of development, change of API/ABIs can be frequent. - Is it possible to force a reload when you do any operations on a remote place ? When I create a file on my sftp place, I expect that it appears on pcmanfm after the creation. Monitoring is not needed, but any user interactions should affect what pcmanfm shows. PCManFM should show the created files even on remote filesystems right after you create them. Otherwise it's a bug. - I'm not sure having the tabs above the sidebar is good. I personally prefer to have them just above the main window, like Nautilus do. But maybe other people like this behavior ? Firefox + IE + Opera all does this. So does old PCManFM 0.5 series. In addition, design like nautilus greatly limited the usability of tabs since you can only have very few tabs due to limited space. - Don't hesitate to do releases often, it's better for distributions :) Even if bugs are discovered shortly after the release, you can still do a quick X.X.1 release to fix this. Given the program is now used by so many users, it's better to have releases with better quality. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Le Monday 13 June 2011 à 19:17 +0800, PCMan a écrit : - Please bump the soname of your library each time you change your API. Distributions can do smooth transitions between versions of libfm/pcmanfm. Also, if you expect other applications to use libfm, you need to use the soname. I want to do this for stable tarball releases only. In current stage of development, change of API/ABIs can be frequent. Ok, but technically, it's used as a stable application on, at least, Debian and Ubuntu (and probably many other distributions). So, what is missing for having a stable release of pcmanfm ? Any major features are still missing ? - Is it possible to force a reload when you do any operations on a remote place ? When I create a file on my sftp place, I expect that it appears on pcmanfm after the creation. Monitoring is not needed, but any user interactions should affect what pcmanfm shows. PCManFM should show the created files even on remote filesystems right after you create them. Otherwise it's a bug. Ok, so it's a bug. I just test it with sftp, and the folder is not refreshed when I create a directory or a file, from right click and New. - I'm not sure having the tabs above the sidebar is good. I personally prefer to have them just above the main window, like Nautilus do. But maybe other people like this behavior ? Firefox + IE + Opera all does this. So does old PCManFM 0.5 series. In addition, design like nautilus greatly limited the usability of tabs since you can only have very few tabs due to limited space. But I don't think browsers are designed to work full time with a sidebar, like a files manager. I don't think the comparaison is fully accurate. But well, it's just personal taste here :) - Don't hesitate to do releases often, it's better for distributions :) Even if bugs are discovered shortly after the release, you can still do a quick X.X.1 release to fix this. Given the program is now used by so many users, it's better to have releases with better quality. But it's better than no release at all, especially for application still in development. Last official release is 2010-10-14 (according to http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmanfm/files/ ), more than six months ago. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2011-06-13 14:27, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le Monday 13 June 2011 à 19:17 +0800, PCMan a écrit : - Please bump the soname of your library each time you change your API. Distributions can do smooth transitions between versions of libfm/pcmanfm. Also, if you expect other applications to use libfm, you need to use the soname. I want to do this for stable tarball releases only. In current stage of development, change of API/ABIs can be frequent. Ok, but technically, it's used as a stable application on, at least, Debian and Ubuntu (and probably many other distributions). So, what is missing for having a stable release of pcmanfm ? Any major features are still missing ? As far as I see it the current git HEAD is not /released/. When that happens a git tag will be produced and a tar ball distributed to sf.net project pages. Until then pcman do not want to bump things as they might change numerous times before the release is done. Using git HEAD as source for a package in a distribution is not what pcman wants (and I support this way). - Don't hesitate to do releases often, it's better for distributions :) Even if bugs are discovered shortly after the release, you can still do a quick X.X.1 release to fix this. Given the program is now used by so many users, it's better to have releases with better quality. But it's better than no release at all, especially for application still in development. Last official release is 2010-10-14 (according to http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmanfm/files/ ), more than six months ago. I think the old saying release early, release often is key and important. I do think we should aim for qualty too ofc but with frequent updates it will be there and it will draw even more attention to the product imho. I am with gilir on this one. It also ties together with my notion of not using git HEAD to base packages in distributions on, if there are frequent releases it is more likely the distributions will use $LATEST_TAG rather than giot HEAD. If needed be I am willing to set up a development model with branches for this, this is what I do for a living anyhow (I don't think we do need that though). - -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJN9hp/AAoJEJbdSEaj0jV7CEUH/ijymzoTwao/8uDfgBHhyl0n 33umPx1IhWBjsfpI3jw6qF7MmaoGorvKJw7XTgx0nvIog8Hv8Qm6nVTjnd8ayvBo +/Dz0hMG65BY6VPc/eoQkWAwkapCJEW+qLC13/SfvrD+fz/8Cn1SxCQPlFIXtJrD DYtKhOXY4cWX5OhGVx/cuIffodZOxpb0uFd+vtCw+eE9SDtJqS3qng3MFu2bZaEk LimpIxiJMzk8d8YYhlPUvcM0ryb8/vXc20ZbVY+G9bCyx9h40Q/rpmT5NXUb4uBJ gIZaSven2zSpIxO7nk7FphULwap9st/dyJtrujLFeCA1DaFMtyK3SOp5QveG430= =yBsk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Aloha oukou, I've read all the other mails as well, but wanted to reply to this one. Is there an easy way to update/translate sections? I might be able to help in nl and on a side note; which language is the base as no language is 100% translated? With metta, Chris Druif On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 19:51, Martin Bagge / brother brot...@bsnet.sewrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, PCMan wrote: Please help test and update translations in various distros. If things are ok, I propose a new release. PO files at Pootle (and in git ofc) are updated; these are the stats: LC DoneFuzzy TodoRatio af 0 0 159 0,0% am 0 0 159 0,0% ar 30 3 126 18,9% be 144 6 9 90,6% bg 150 3 6 94,3% bn 144 6 9 90,6% bn_IN 0 0 159 0,0% bs 0 0 159 0,0% ca 137 13 9 86,2% cs 148 5 6 93,1% da 148 5 6 93,1% de 148 5 6 93,1% el 150 3 6 94,3% en_GB 150 3 6 94,3% es 150 3 6 94,3% es_VE 0 0 159 0,0% et 0 0 159 0,0% eu 0 0 159 0,0% fa 148 5 6 93,1% fi 149 3 7 93,7% fo 144 6 9 90,6% fr 150 3 6 94,3% gl 151 5 3 95,0% he 151 5 3 95,0% hr 122 2 35 76,7% hu 148 5 6 93,1% id 146 6 7 91,8% it 150 3 6 94,3% ja 148 5 6 93,1% jv 0 0 159 0,0% kk 0 0 159 0,0% km 47 5 107 29,6% ko 0 0 159 0,0% lg 150 3 6 94,3% li 0 0 159 0,0% lt 150 3 6 94,3% lv 146 5 8 91,8% ml 0 0 159 0,0% ms 0 0 159 0,0% nb 0 0 159 0,0% nl 150 3 6 94,3% nn 0 0 159 0,0% pa 141 5 13 88,7% pl 150 3 6 94,3% ps 0 0 159 0,0% pt 150 3 6 94,3% pt_BR 152 3 4 95,6% ro 0 0 159 0,0% ru 150 3 6 94,3% si 40 0 119 25,2% sk 145 8 6 91,2% sl 150 3 6 94,3% sr 148 5 6 93,1% sr@latin148 5 6 93,1% sv 151 5 3 95,0% te 150 3 6 94,3% th 0 0 159 0,0% tr 150 3 6 94,3% uk 150 3 6 94,3% ur 0 0 159 0,0% ur_PK 0 0 159 0,0% vi 150 3 6 94,3% zh_CN 150 3 6 94,3% zh_TW 137 5 17 86,2% you probably ant to check libfm also: LC DoneFuzzy TodoRatio af 0 0 184 0,0% am 0 0 184 0,0% ar 19 0 165 10,3% be 135 3 46 73,4% bg 179 1 4 97,3% bn 130 4 50 70,7% bn_IN 0 0 184 0,0% bs 0 0 184 0,0% ca 130 4 50 70,7% cs 179 1 4 97,3% da 179 1 4 97,3% de 163 17 4 88,6% el 179 1 4 97,3% en_GB 179 1 4 97,3% es 179 1 4 97,3% es_VE 0 129 55 0,0% et 0 0 184 0,0% eu 0 0 184 0,0% fa 179 1 4 97,3% fi 176 2 6 95,7% fo 178 1 5 96,7% fr 179 1 4 97,3% gl 181 0 3 98,4% he 179 1 4 97,3% hr 162 1 21 88,0% hu 179 1 4 97,3% id 135 3 46 73,4% it 179 1 4 97,3% ja 179 1 4 97,3% jv 0 0 184 0,0% kk 0 0 184 0,0% km 0 0 184 0,0% ko 0 0 184 0,0% lg 179 1 4 97,3% lt 179 2 3 97,3% ml 0 0 184 0,0% ms 0 0 184 0,0% nb 0 0 184 0,0% nl 179 1 4 97,3% nn 0 0 184 0,0% pa 0 0 184 0,0% pl 179 1 4 97,3% ps 0 0 184 0,0% pt 179 1 4 97,3% pt_BR 181 0 3 98,4% ro 0 0 184 0,0% ru 179 1 4 97,3% si
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On 06/13/2011 07:11 AM, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: On 2011-06-13 14:27, Julien Lavergne wrote: So, what is missing for having a stable release of pcmanfm ? Any major features are still missing ? This is a key question for Lubuntu right now. Using git HEAD as source for a package in a distribution is not what pcman wants (and I support this way). Agreed -- and the simplest way to prevent this is to release often enough that distributions do not feel any need to package from git :) Last official release is 2010-10-14 ... Which is both fairly old, and also bad timing regarding Ubuntu releases, being only about two weeks before the Ubuntu 10.10 final release. SUGGESTION: Let's test the current almost-0.9.9 codebase, fix any major issues found in the next week or so, then bump the SONAME version and release it before the end of June 2011. Can we do that? Since some testers seem to need packaged versions to test, I'll look at creating a test unofficial package from git for them, so we get slightly more testing. Another way to go would be to release a 0.9.9~rc1 tarball, and a corresponding one for libfm, if that is preferred -- doing that means noone has to use git head for packaging :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Aloha oukou, Last official release is 2010-10-14 ... Which is both fairly old, and also bad timing regarding Ubuntu releases, being only about two weeks before the Ubuntu 10.10 final release. That was 4 days AFTER the Ubuntu 10.10 release. But if you want to get something in L/Ubuntu, you have to keep in mind the Feature Freeze [1] this cycle set on August 11th. With metta, Chris Druif [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/13/2011 07:11 AM, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: On 2011-06-13 14:27, Julien Lavergne wrote: So, what is missing for having a stable release of pcmanfm ? Any major features are still missing ? This is a key question for Lubuntu right now. See this: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=156956atid=801864 I give the bugs different priority. The ones with highest priority should be fixed before 0.9.9, I think. Please see if you can help. Personally I will take this one: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3094303group_id=156956atid=801864 This is my bottom line. At least this one should be fixed before 0.9.9. Using git HEAD as source for a package in a distribution is not what pcman wants (and I support this way). Agreed -- and the simplest way to prevent this is to release often enough that distributions do not feel any need to package from git :) Yes, so I plan to make a new release and asked for testing here. In the past I mistakenly released some broken stuff, and this should not happen again, especially when there are more and more people using this. Last official release is 2010-10-14 ... Which is both fairly old, and also bad timing regarding Ubuntu releases, being only about two weeks before the Ubuntu 10.10 final release. SUGGESTION: Let's test the current almost-0.9.9 codebase, fix any major issues found in the next week or so, then bump the SONAME version and release it before the end of June 2011. Can we do that? Yes, if with help from the community. No if I do it myself. Patches from Lubuntu is appreciated. Since some testers seem to need packaged versions to test, I'll look at creating a test unofficial package from git for them, so we get slightly more testing. Another way to go would be to release a 0.9.9~rc1 tarball, and a corresponding one for libfm, if that is preferred -- doing that means noone has to use git head for packaging :) That's true. Jonathan Actually I have a primitive button-style path bar implemented in libfm already, but I don't have time yet to add it to pcmanfm. I decided to do it next time. Let's fix the important bugs first and make a good release first. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
I'm not a developer and I can't talk about the distribution side of it, but I'm with pcman in the sense that he has been improving and fixing bugs in pcmanfm in a very sensible way, so after accompanying the development process for some time I trust his priorities. Also Ubuntu isn't a parameter for launching nothing (except its own applications). ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Chris wrote: I've read all the other mails as well, but wanted to reply to this one. Is there an easy way to update/translate sections? I might be able to help in nl and on a side note; which language is the base as no language is 100% translated? English is the base language, if you know another language better you can use that as base but it is not really supported and you have to do stuff wourself. It's outside of using Pootle as tool at least. Doing the updates and stuff is very easy, I use intltool-update and some helper scripts around git to do the things. Most are executed by cron and it pings me when I need to manually solve things. Merge conflicts and such. nl got a new translator recently and he is very active (in cc) and you guys should take a chat offlist and stuff. Ping me if you need some assistance in any way. Welcome! -- /brother http://martin.bagge.nu BRUCE SCHNEIER understands that all finite sets are countable , but not all countable sets are finite. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Martin, you're the git specialist. But regarding releasing LXDE components, maybe some could have a new release. LXTask had a memory leak fixed and was about to be released then nobody talked about it anymore. Most components have much improved translations since they were last released and these could have a minor point release. Now an observation. In a constructive manner. I see that Julien Lavergne is mostly the only one that has been working on the apps but ideally, in a non technical opinion as I'm not a programmer, I think that the master branch in git should be reserved for bug fixes and pre-tested improvements. Untested code (like these recent gtk3 compatibility commits that have broken, for instance, lxpanel and lxterminal in a very basic way or gpicview that has something that looks like a typo and makes it not even compile) would be commited to another branch and then the commiter could ask for testing in the mailing list. The benefits for the workflow and for multiple contributions is evident. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Le Monday 13 June 2011 à 19:24 -0300, Sérgio Cipolla a écrit : Now an observation. In a constructive manner. I see that Julien Lavergne is mostly the only one that has been working on the apps but ideally, in a non technical opinion as I'm not a programmer, I think that the master branch in git should be reserved for bug fixes and pre-tested improvements. Untested code (like these recent gtk3 compatibility commits that have broken, for instance, lxpanel and lxterminal in a very basic way or gpicview that has something that looks like a typo and makes it not even compile) would be commited to another branch and then the commiter could ask for testing in the mailing list. I done this in the past, but I didn't have any feedback about my changes. git HEAD should not be used for daily usage. But it's used because there is not enough releases of many components. Martin and I could probably help in the process, but we don't have access for uploading tarballs on sourceforce. That's also why lxtask was not officially release weeks ago. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Sérgio Cipolla wrote: Martin, you're the git specialist. But regarding releasing LXDE components, maybe some could have a new release. I guess they need that indeed. Haven't checked though. LXTask had a memory leak fixed and was about to be released then nobody talked about it anymore. That's on my todo for the week, I posted[1] that I was swamped by other things. Did the git tag but lacked all the other parts to be able to release. The sitution has cleared up now and only remaining thing is to produce the tar file and upload it to SF.net. I guess it should be blogged and stuff but noone has written any release notes so I have to do that too, reading git log to find out what was done. Most components have much improved translations since they were last released and these could have a minor point release. I am not opposing a translation only release, planning for such a thing might even bring attention to other things that need to get there. I am not skilled enough to make these decisions - just tell me that we should go to release and I handle the process. Now an observation. In a constructive manner. I see that Julien Lavergne is mostly the only one that has been working on the apps but ideally, in a non technical opinion as I'm not a programmer, I think that the master branch in git should be reserved for bug fixes and pre-tested improvements. Untested code (like these recent gtk3 compatibility commits that have broken, for instance, lxpanel and lxterminal in a very basic way or gpicview that has something that looks like a typo and makes it not even compile) would be commited to another branch and then the commiter could ask for testing in the mailing list. The benefits for the workflow and for multiple contributions is evident. Yes please, more testing and more contributions. I applaud. I could make the buildbot produce the release tar files on successful builds if that would benefit people. I probably have to find how to make it build on updated git repos then. As it stands now I do the builds when I have time to watch them/as often as I get a build needed message from the Pootle server - a check is done every two hours during my working hours (7-24 CEST). Ideas and thoughts about the process to make things more lean is appreciated. I am not a developer skilled enough to hack on the actual source code but I am more than willing to dig in and do processes and workflows and stuff like that. If I can do things in script it is even better. [1] It's not available from the LXDE-list archives as that mailing list seem to have dropped of the Internet somehow mid May. -- /brother http://martin.bagge.nu If at first you don't succeed at breaking a cipher, you're not Bruce Schneier. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Julien Lavergne wrote: Martin and I could probably help in the process, but we don't have access for uploading tarballs on sourceforce. That's also why lxtask was not officially release weeks ago. According to a mail from pcman I do have access to upload files at SF.net since May or something. Haven't checked the things yet though. -- /brother http://martin.bagge.nu Bruce Schneier doesn't have a chin under his beard -- just more ciphertext. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: LXDM or Lightdm ?
-- Mensaje reenviado -- De: Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré winningl...@gmail.com Fecha: 13 de junio de 2011 22:41 Asunto: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDM or Lightdm ? Para: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com (Sorry for my English) My littler opinion: Use lxdm for this cycle (We have used for long time and seen to be fine, also study the lightDM performance and let less work for developers for this cycle). Use lightDM for the next cycle (Developers will have more time for develop and study lightDM) 2011/6/9 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le Wednesday 08 June 2011 à 23:26 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : I've been running Ubuntu Oneiric with lightdm for a while and it appears to behave it's self OK. Having had a bit of a read about it I don't see an advantage in either, from a user's point of view, and I'm a bit lost with the technical (dis)advantages. A few thoughts. With the change to GTK3 and the potential problems to be resolved with that, are we adding another headache for the few competent devs we have. Or would having Lightdm give us one less problem, as others in the Ubuntu community would be dealing with it and we wouldn't have to worry about lxdm either. Would sticking with what we know be better as lxdm doesn't have any real problems and performs the function for which it is intended. In the past, we discovered some bugs in LXDM which was quite painful to investigate and fix. With a DM used by more people, and more developed, we decrease this kind of risk. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:12:06 +0800 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=156956atid=801864 OK, thanks, that's good to know. SUGGESTION: Let's test the current almost-0.9.9 codebase, fix any major issues found in the next week or so, then bump the SONAME version and release it before the end of June 2011. Can we do that? Yes, if with help from the community. No if I do it myself. Patches from Lubuntu is appreciated. Since you mentioned it: I *already* turned libfm patches from Julien's Ubuntu package of libfm into a git repo for you, six commits, and posted about doing that to this list. All that was left for you to do was to cherrypick which ones you want to include in the upstream sources: https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03977.html As far as I can see, *none* of them have been included so far! Either I did something wrong, or else you don't really want those patches? Help me understand what I have to do so you will accept the commits I made for you from Ubuntu patches, please. Since some testers seem to need packaged versions to test, I'll look at creating a test unofficial package from git for them, so we get slightly more testing. Another way to go would be to release a 0.9.9~rc1 tarball, and a corresponding one for libfm, if that is preferred -- doing that means noone has to use git head for packaging :) That's true. I'm playing with writing a script to grab the libfm git head and Julien's package and automatically create a new package based on the combination of the two. It doesn't quite work yet... if it does, I'll try to do the same for pcmanfm, and then we can create test packages for pcmanfm testers much more easily :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
