[Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread PCMan
Hi everyone,
As the original author and prior maintainer of GPicView, I'd like to ask for
some comments from users and other developers. Since I no longer have the
time to maintain GPicView and it still has many problems. I consider
dropping GPicView in LXDE and replace it with a better one.

Viewnior is a lightweight and feature-rich image viewer which I think is
better than gpicview and it also meets the goals of LXDE.
http://xsisqox.github.com/Viewnior/

It has very good balance between resource usage and feature set. Please give
it some tests and gave me some feedback.
I'd suggest replacing GPicView with Viewnior in LXDE. Any objections?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About GTK2 - GTK3 Migration, a critical issue

2011-08-18 Thread 魏銘廷
Current lxterminal is not GTK+3 compatible as what I tested. Though it is
compilable, it can't be configured and window size is not handled correctly.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread Glenn de Groot

Hello,
what about contacting the XFCE people to work on one lightweight image 
viewer?Xubuntu discussed about Ristretto because it isn´t very good and they 
also looked at replacing it with Gpicview.Maybe if we combine resources we end 
up with something better then both Gpicview and Ristretto.
-Glenn

Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 21:00:15 +0800
From: pcman...@gmail.com
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Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView

Hi everyone,As the original author and prior maintainer of GPicView, I'd like 
to ask for some comments from users and other developers. Since I no longer 
have the time to maintain GPicView and it still has many problems. I consider 
dropping GPicView in LXDE and replace it with a better one.

Viewnior is a lightweight and feature-rich image viewer which I think is better 
than gpicview and it also meets the goals of 
LXDE.http://xsisqox.github.com/Viewnior/

It has very good balance between resource usage and feature set. Please give it 
some tests and gave me some feedback.I'd suggest replacing GPicView with 
Viewnior in LXDE. Any objections?



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread Rafael Laguna
Wasn't Mirage developed for XFCE initially? I think it's a great viewer and
can crop images too (no other can). But I don't know its development status.

I love EOG colour profiles support, but I know it's unthinkable that layer
on Lubuntu.

(sorry for redundance, answering list)



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread PCMan
Please try Viewnior before making comments. It's better than GPicView in
many ways.
It has all the feature GPicView has and is as fast. It's GTK+ 3 ready, too.
Though I don't like to drop my own program and use others', I see no reason
not to use it because it's indeed superior than mine. Even better, it's
desktop independent.

Please give it a try and give me some feedback.
Developing another one with XFCE devs is not needed. I see no reason to do
so.
Viewnior is good enough for this. If it's not, I'm sure that several patches
will be enough.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread A. Andjelkovic
I just installed Viewnior through their PPA, here are my results and thoughts...

1) Memory usage[1]:
viewnior: 23.0 MB
gpicview: 20.0 MB

Pretty much identical, Viewnior is just as fast if not faster when
browsing through a folder of images.

2) Thoughts:
So far Viewnior is great, I like it. If this is what you want to do
(Gpicview is your project after all) I'd support your decision. It's
fast, light and has ability to crop images (a very big plus tbh,
especially for Lubuntu's targeted audience). We should also look into
other alternatives before deciding however.

[1]: Tested using:
Lubuntu 10.10
Asus Eee PC 1001PX
Viewing the same picture (1920x1080 jpg-file)

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 6:29 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please try Viewnior before making comments. It's better than GPicView in
 many ways.
 It has all the feature GPicView has and is as fast. It's GTK+ 3 ready, too.
 Though I don't like to drop my own program and use others', I see no reason
 not to use it because it's indeed superior than mine. Even better, it's
 desktop independent.
 Please give it a try and give me some feedback.
 Developing another one with XFCE devs is not needed. I see no reason to do
 so.
 Viewnior is good enough for this. If it's not, I'm sure that several patches
 will be enough.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
2011/8/18 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com

 Please try Viewnior before making comments. It's better than GPicView in
 many ways.

Except in Ram consumption: for the same picture (very small one) i have 8,8
for gpic and 13,6 for viewnior. Other than that, i'm lliking it so far :)

 Though I don't like to drop my own program and use others', I see no reason
 not to use it because it's indeed superior than mine. Even better, it's
 desktop independent.

For Set as Wallpaper doesn't work here on Lubuntu 11.04

 Please give it a try and give me some feedback.
 Developing another one with XFCE devs is not needed. I see no reason to do
 so.

Maybe not needed, but if the light desktops could join in some projects,
*maybe* things will be easier.

 Viewnior is good enough for this. If it's not, I'm sure that several
 patches will be enough.

Does this mean that viewnior will be adopted by lxde?? That would be nice!


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Sorry i haven't said this: +1 for Viewnior
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le Thursday 18 August 2011 à 21:00 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Viewnior is a lightweight and feature-rich image viewer which I think
 is better than gpicview and it also meets the goals of LXDE.
 http://xsisqox.github.com/Viewnior/ 
 
 It has very good balance between resource usage and feature set.
 Please give it some tests and gave me some feedback. I'd suggest
 replacing GPicView with Viewnior in LXDE. Any objections? 
+1
As far as I can tell, viewnior have a nice interface and the code seems
also easy to read. It should be just fine :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxshortcut integration in pcmanfm PATCH

2011-08-18 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le Friday 12 August 2011 à 16:00 +0200, Leszek Lesner a écrit : 
 I created a little patch which creates a new menuitem in the new menu called 
 Shortcut. 
 When its called it will execute 
 lxshortcut -i filename_you_entered_for_the_new_desktop.file
 I originally created this patch for ZevenOS-Neptune and the debian version of 
 pcmanfm (which seems to be an older version). 
 I hope this patch works also for the ubuntu package and the newer version and 
 is useful until a 'real' integration for desktop creation is done in pcmanfm 
 / 
 libfm. 

Thanks Leszek for the patch. You should post it to pcmanfm bugtracker so
upstream can have a look at it :)

I'm not sure the use case you try to cover with this patch. Do you have
an example ? Also, IMO it should handle the case when lxshortcut is not
installed (adding a text box asking to install lxshortcut).

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About GPicView

2011-08-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
If you are happy with it, and it comes in before feature freeze, I am
personally happier to take a bit of work load from pcman on a project he is
struggling to support and bring this one in.

Regards,

Phill.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Thursday 18 August 2011 à 21:00 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
  Viewnior is a lightweight and feature-rich image viewer which I think
  is better than gpicview and it also meets the goals of LXDE.
  http://xsisqox.github.com/Viewnior/
 
  It has very good balance between resource usage and feature set.
  Please give it some tests and gave me some feedback. I'd suggest
  replacing GPicView with Viewnior in LXDE. Any objections?
 +1
 As far as I can tell, viewnior have a nice interface and the code seems
 also easy to read. It should be just fine :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lxshortcut integration in pcmanfm PATCH

2011-08-18 Thread PCMan
For me, my plan for this part is to make lxshortcut a library, or have this
functionality built into libfm directly.
A library might be more appropriate since this can also be used by
lxsession-edit later.
A separate binary is better when we want to make it an optional component
and handle cases when it's not installed.
Making it a library will let other programs integrate it nicely and easily
since many other desktop components might need this functionality, such as
lxpanel, pcmanfm, and lxsession-edit.
Putting it in libfm has the benefit that we don't have to maintain yet
another library. The cons is other programs requiring this feature will
depend on libfm.
I have not decide how to do this yet, but personally I prefer the library
one. (maybe libdesktop-edit?)

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Friday 12 August 2011 à 16:00 +0200, Leszek Lesner a écrit :
  I created a little patch which creates a new menuitem in the new menu
 called
  Shortcut.
  When its called it will execute
  lxshortcut -i filename_you_entered_for_the_new_desktop.file
  I originally created this patch for ZevenOS-Neptune and the debian
 version of
  pcmanfm (which seems to be an older version).
  I hope this patch works also for the ubuntu package and the newer version
 and
  is useful until a 'real' integration for desktop creation is done in
 pcmanfm /
  libfm.

 Thanks Leszek for the patch. You should post it to pcmanfm bugtracker so
 upstream can have a look at it :)

 I'm not sure the use case you try to cover with this patch. Do you have
 an example ? Also, IMO it should handle the case when lxshortcut is not
 installed (adding a text box asking to install lxshortcut).

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne



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[Lubuntu-desktop] New Greeter for LightDM 0.9

2011-08-18 Thread PCMan
Hi list,
I migrated my old GtkBuilder-based LightDM greeter to LightDM 0.9.x APIs.
Now it works well again with the latest LightDM.
It's still GTK+ 2 based. Migration to gtk3 will begin along with other LXDE
components later.

The source code is here:
git://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/lxde/ldm-gtk-builder-greeter

Main features:
1. Highly themable and much more flexible than the gtk greeter built into
lightdm.
2. Works with gtk2 (so we don't need gtk3 for the login manager)
3. Possible to port old gdm themes to this.

Things don't work:
1. Language selection feature is REMOVED from LightDM, so there is no way to
support this anymore. We're still discuss with upstream authors about this
regression.
2. The themes cannot be edited with Glade when GTK+ 3 is used.

Please take some time to test if the new greeter works for you. Thanks.
I think is a nice alternative to the built-in one provided by LightDM.
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