Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-03 Thread Tim Bernhard
A. J.,

The one stop Lubuntu thread looks great!  I love what you've done with the
first three posts and can tell you have put a lot of work in to it.  I did
have one suggestion that I think will make it even more useful.  I posted
it to the thread.  You can read it here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11419826postcount=116

I took ownership of a forum
threadhttp://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/424213-acer-aspire-1410-1810-timeline-11-6-thread.htmla
couple of years ago and it became unmanageable within a month.  There
were so many different discussions going on at once it was hard to keep up
with them.  I wanted to keep adding the most useful items to the beginning
of the thread, but couldn't because there was so much going on.  To make
matters worse,  people would often think they had a problem solved and I
would dig through multiple posts trying to add the solution to the top of
the thread only to find out it didn't work after all.  Now the thread is
over 4200 posts long and contains a wealth of useful information but it's
nearly impossible to find it.  Doing a simple search on something like
battery life returns 240 of posts with most of them being useless.   It
would have been much better if I had been able to post a like to a thread
that held that discussion on its own.  People would come to the thread late
in the game with issues that had already been solved, but it was nearly
impossible to find the answers in the thread and the people who could
answer them had moved on to the next latest and greatest laptop and were no
longer active participants in that thread.

I hope this helps.

Tim


On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 This should be very useful as long as you take ownership and keep it up to
 date and until it gets so big it's impossible to navigate.   It should
 prove useful for this release and a new one could be started for subsequent
 releases.

 Tim

 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:


 Dear All,

 I think this will be the first Mega Lubuntu Thread on Ubuntu Forum. Since
 my most activities on the Forum and because I'm trying to put together
 everything related to Lubuntu in one place, I have decided to create this
 thread:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755

 Before, it was just a thread with two guides but now, it has another
 purpose and aim.

 Thank you!

 P.S.
 Needless to say that your contributions will be highly appreciated ;)


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-03 Thread James Gifford
Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K
posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is
where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in
otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top.

Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to
AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate
over as well.

Cheers,
James Gifford



On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
 A. J.,

 The one stop Lubuntu thread looks great!  I love what you've done with the
 first three posts and can tell you have put a lot of work in to it.  I did
 have one suggestion that I think will make it even more useful.  I posted it
 to the thread.  You can read it here:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11419826postcount=116

 I took ownership of a forum thread a couple of years ago and it became
 unmanageable within a month.  There were so many different discussions going
 on at once it was hard to keep up with them.  I wanted to keep adding the
 most useful items to the beginning of the thread, but couldn't because there
 was so much going on.  To make matters worse,  people would often think they
 had a problem solved and I would dig through multiple posts trying to add
 the solution to the top of the thread only to find out it didn't work after
 all.  Now the thread is over 4200 posts long and contains a wealth of useful
 information but it's nearly impossible to find it.  Doing a simple search on
 something like battery life returns 240 of posts with most of them being
 useless.   It would have been much better if I had been able to post a like
 to a thread that held that discussion on its own.  People would come to the
 thread late in the game with issues that had already been solved, but it was
 nearly impossible to find the answers in the thread and the people who could
 answer them had moved on to the next latest and greatest laptop and were no
 longer active participants in that thread.

 I hope this helps.

 Tim


 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 This should be very useful as long as you take ownership and keep it up to
 date and until it gets so big it's impossible to navigate.   It should prove
 useful for this release and a new one could be started for subsequent
 releases.

 Tim

 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 I think this will be the first Mega Lubuntu Thread on Ubuntu Forum. Since
 my most activities on the Forum and because I'm trying to put together
 everything related to Lubuntu in one place, I have decided to create this
 thread:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755

 Before, it was just a thread with two guides but now, it has another
 purpose and aim.

 Thank you!

 P.S.
 Needless to say that your contributions will be highly appreciated ;)


 --
 Best Regards,

 A.J
 amjjawad
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 ~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || I walk by faith, not by sight
 || Imagination is more important than Knowledge || Keep It Simple and Short
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-03 Thread Tim Bernhard
Another great idea!

I like it, but the most useful answer to what?  There were 100s of topics
being discussed in that laptop thread.  The one stop thread is still a nice
clearing house for all things Lubuntu.  Plus some topics might not
actually be issues.  Those might be better served with a traditional
thread.

It might be most useful to ask users with issues to start their subtopics
in Ask Ubuntu and still use A.J.s thread to list them.   No???



On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.comwrote:

 Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K
 posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is
 where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in
 otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top.

 Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to
 AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate
 over as well.

 Cheers,
 James Gifford



 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
  A. J.,
 
  The one stop Lubuntu thread looks great!  I love what you've done with
 the
  first three posts and can tell you have put a lot of work in to it.  I
 did
  have one suggestion that I think will make it even more useful.  I
 posted it
  to the thread.  You can read it here:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11419826postcount=116
 
  I took ownership of a forum thread a couple of years ago and it became
  unmanageable within a month.  There were so many different discussions
 going
  on at once it was hard to keep up with them.  I wanted to keep adding the
  most useful items to the beginning of the thread, but couldn't because
 there
  was so much going on.  To make matters worse,  people would often think
 they
  had a problem solved and I would dig through multiple posts trying to add
  the solution to the top of the thread only to find out it didn't work
 after
  all.  Now the thread is over 4200 posts long and contains a wealth of
 useful
  information but it's nearly impossible to find it.  Doing a simple
 search on
  something like battery life returns 240 of posts with most of them
 being
  useless.   It would have been much better if I had been able to post a
 like
  to a thread that held that discussion on its own.  People would come to
 the
  thread late in the game with issues that had already been solved, but it
 was
  nearly impossible to find the answers in the thread and the people who
 could
  answer them had moved on to the next latest and greatest laptop and were
 no
  longer active participants in that thread.
 
  I hope this helps.
 
  Tim
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  This should be very useful as long as you take ownership and keep it up
 to
  date and until it gets so big it's impossible to navigate.   It should
 prove
  useful for this release and a new one could be started for subsequent
  releases.
 
  Tim
 
  On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear All,
 
  I think this will be the first Mega Lubuntu Thread on Ubuntu Forum.
 Since
  my most activities on the Forum and because I'm trying to put together
  everything related to Lubuntu in one place, I have decided to create
 this
  thread:
 
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755
 
  Before, it was just a thread with two guides but now, it has another
  purpose and aim.
 
  Thank you!
 
  P.S.
  Needless to say that your contributions will be highly appreciated ;)
 
 
  --
  Best Regards,
 
  A.J
  amjjawad
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  ~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || I walk by faith, not by
 sight
  || Imagination is more important than Knowledge || Keep It Simple and
 Short
  ~
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-03 Thread Jared Norris
 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com
 wrote:

 Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K
 posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is
 where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in
 otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top.

 Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to
 AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate
 over as well.

 Cheers,
 James Gifford




My personal preference is to use each segment to the best of it's
ability. The help.u.c/community wiki is useful for howto guides useful
to large audiences, the forums are good for one on one assistance, the
mailing list usually gets help reasonably quickly, IRC is instant and
AU has it's own little place.

We have so many ways to contribute information to the general public,
I think as long as we choose the best option for the type of
information we're trying to request or present then it doesn't really
matter *where* it is.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-03 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi lubunteers,

The most important thing is that each part is up to date. The more we
diverge into different areas, the more impossible this becomes.

I put up to people that our official wiki area should be 1st source and all
other areas should point to it.

We have already had this discussion wıth lubuntu.net pointıng to out of
date stuff and ıt was corrected. There is not a snow flake in hells chance
for our small team to keep every area up to date.

My proposal was, is and continues to be that we PRIMARILY use our wiki area
that includes 'How To' and 'Work Arounds' that are pointed to as. From all
the other areas, a link that is updated is silly. People bookmark them. As
renewed 'How Tos' / Work arounds are placed onto the forum etc. they must
be then put onto the wiki area so that we are 'all singing off the same
hymn sheet' Ali is excentlally placed to both look after the forum thread 
has proven to be good at wiki - So I vote for hım.

Having different sets of instructions / advice for people is simply going
to lead to the chaos that we see generally when someone 'googles' a problem.

I look forward to the replies, and, yes - we need them as to how we are
going to have to decide on where we keep the MASTER set of instructions.

Regards,

Phıll.



On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com
  wrote:
 
  Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K
  posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is
  where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in
  otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top.
 
  Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to
  AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate
  over as well.
 
  Cheers,
  James Gifford
 
 
 

 My personal preference is to use each segment to the best of it's
 ability. The help.u.c/community wiki is useful for howto guides useful
 to large audiences, the forums are good for one on one assistance, the
 mailing list usually gets help reasonably quickly, IRC is instant and
 AU has it's own little place.

 We have so many ways to contribute information to the general public,
 I think as long as we choose the best option for the type of
 information we're trying to request or present then it doesn't really
 matter *where* it is.

 --
 Regards,

 Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

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