[Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-05 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

It's official, we have a new mailing list :)

lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
subscribe to this new mailing list (See
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).

The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions,
and the team will be close soon.

Thanks for your attention :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Rawson

On 05/01/12 19:21, Julien Lavergne wrote:

Hi,

It's official, we have a new mailing list :)

lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please 
subscribe to this new mailing list (See 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).


The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new 
discussions, and the team will be close soon.


Thanks for your attention :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne




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So...is this the developer list, the user list, or both? Or some 
combination thereof?


Sorry, behind the times and a little confused.

Thanks,

Michael

PS I know, sort of a new topic, but I'm moving.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

2012-01-05 Thread Phill Whiteside
I am still awaiting a deffinitive answer from the devs

Too busy coding to answer us mere mortals :P

Regards,

Phill.

On 5 January 2012 22:09, Michael Rawson michaelrawso...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 05/01/12 19:21, Julien Lavergne wrote:

 Hi,

 It's official, we have a new mailing list :)

 lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

 If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
 subscribe to this new mailing list (See
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).

 The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions,
 and the team will be close soon.

 Thanks for your attention :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne




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  So...is this the developer list, the user list, or both? Or some
 combination thereof?

 Sorry, behind the times and a little confused.

 Thanks,

 Michael

 PS I know, sort of a new topic, but I'm moving.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-05 Thread Steven
Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :)

1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004. It's my
main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm.

I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds like the
kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not beyond),
but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can convince
them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin Watson
mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1].

-Steven

[1]:
http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt


On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:20:35 -0800
 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  On 11/20/2011 07:29 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
 
   On 20/11/2011 19:31, Yorvyk wrote:
 
 
   If a CPU can't support PAE it can't support more than 4GiB of RAM,
   so the PAE part of the kernel shoudn't come into play.
 
 
 
   From what I understand, PAE has a different set of paging structures
   compared to non-PAE. Does the kernel know to fall back onto non-PAE
   mode if it cannot enable PAE on a CPU?
 
 
  Which way to do things is basically a compile time option for the
  kernel, as I understand it.  So, if a PAE kernel is used, it can *only*
  be run on processors that support the additional PAE instructions.  Even
  if a machine only has 128MB RAM, it you try to run a PAE kernel on it,
  and the CPU lacks the PAE instruction, it is not going to run.
 
  The real question is: are there really any CPUs in general purpose
  desktops or laptops, in any significant quantity at all, that Ubuntu
  11.10 i386 kernels work on, which PAE kernels do not work on?
 
  Other than the early 400MHz Pentium-M, which are pretty rare, I don't
  think anyone has seen such a CPU yet.  Via C3 and AMD Geode LX already
  cannot run current Ubuntu 11.10 default kernels anyway.
 
 Having trawled the net for info on this, I have no problem with dropping
 the non-PAE kernel as it appears to only effect a very,very, very small
 number of users.  Whether these are current or potential users is going to
 be very hard to find out, unless they start jumping up-and-down screaming.
 My one concern was the alleged overhead of the PAE kernel but, this
 appears, from the various benchmarks I've seen, to be trivial and probably
 unnoticeable in normal use.  I have installed PAE kernels on a couple of
 machines, one oneiric and one precise, and have not noticed any problems so
 far.
 I would imagine by the time 12.04 is no longer supported, 32 bit ubuntus
 may well be limited to the ARM anyway.




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