Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative). These are other distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project. I think it's much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and Ubuntu Server. I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word is derivative correct. Scott why bring this up to the UWN folks who are trying their hardest to bring the news to folks, why not bring it up to the release manager or others to change this. Chris, who is new to the news team, wanted to add a section to cover these distributions, and establish a relationship as well as let you all know what we (the news were doing). Responses like this, to someone who doesn't make those decisions don't help with encouragement, inclusion and good will. It's like you are beating up the messenger. We on the news team are trying our best to bring coverage about as many of the flavors, derivatives, siblings or whatever you want to call them. We were asking for your help and instead you complain about the word. Seriously? Cheers, Amber Scott K On 12/05/2011 09:35 PM, Chris wrote: Hello everyone, I'd like to take this opportunity to tell everyone about the new section on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter. It's a section devoted to the development of the official derivatives of Ubuntu. For this we'd like to receive every week that you have a meeting, a link to the summary of the meeting. This is all to more acknowledgement of the hard work everyone in the derivatives branches are doing. If there are any questions, please ask them here or on #ubuntu-news. akgraner and me (MrChrisDruif) should be around to answer your questions. With metta, Chris -- Amber Graner//akgraner// http://akgraner.com/ http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu Just me Amber. There are lots of Linux users who don't care how the kernel works, but only want to use it. That is a tribute to how good Linux is. Linus Torvalds ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Steve Stalcup stalc...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On 12/06/2011 12:28 AM, Amber Graner wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative). These are other distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project. I think it's much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and Ubuntu Server. I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word is derivative correct. Scott why bring this up to the UWN folks who are trying their hardest to bring the news to folks, why not bring it up to the release manager or others to change this. Chris, who is new to the news team, wanted to add a section to cover these distributions, and establish a relationship as well as let you all know what we (the news were doing). Responses like this, to someone who doesn't make those decisions don't help with encouragement, inclusion and good will. It's like you are beating up the messenger. We on the news team are trying our best to bring coverage about as many of the flavors, derivatives, siblings or whatever you want to call them. We were asking for your help and instead you complain about the word. Seriously? Because I find the term offensive. I bring it up whenever I see it used. I even said that I recognized he was only using a term others use. Why should I not bring it up? It's not meant as an attack on anyone, but to express an opinion. If you're going to add a section as a part of showing appreciation, but name it something that bothers someone, isn't that useful to know? Scott K This is an insult, tbh [0]. But since when does Canonical care about any other flavor? [0] http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives I am sorry you feel this way. I have CC'd Jono Bacon into this conversation b/c we on UWN are community members who are just wanting to bring the news to the masses. I can't speak for what Canonical does or doesn't do and I don't want this thread to be about anything other than what it was originally intended which was to ask for your help in making sure we could bring the community news about each of these distributions and make the community at large aware of the various meetings etc. Thanks for your understanding. Cheers, Amber -- Amber Graner//akgraner// http://akgraner.com/ http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu Just me Amber. There are lots of Linux users who don't care how the kernel works, but only want to use it. That is a tribute to how good Linux is. Linus Torvalds ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] URGENT - Ubuntu Open Week - Call for Sessions
Hi all, Sorry for the short notice on asking you all to join in and lead a session of Open Week [1], As Charlie Kravetz (aka charlie-tca) pointed out earlier emails about open week seemed exclusionary to any of the support Ubuntu Derivatives, I am very sorry about that and that was not the intention at all. Open Week is open to you all as well. Charlie already jumped in and will be giving an Xubuntu: What is that? session. (Thank you again, Charlie) If have some slots available and would love to have you all engage the community what your Derivative Distribution is, what your needs are, and how the community can help. Thanks again, and sorry for any mis-communication on part as it was unintended. If you want to sign up for a session you can email my or jcastro or just add it to the timetable [2] yourself: Please include the following information: Session Name: Session Summary: Session Leader Name (to include IRC Nick) Time Slot: Thanks again in advance for your help and participation in making this another successful open week! with much gratitude, Amber [1] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek [2] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Timetable -- Amber Graner//akgraner// http://akgraner.com/ http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu Need help with Ubuntu? Ask the experts at http://askubuntu.com/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
