Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy Slow)

2009-06-30 Thread Glen Bizeau
Wow,

I just went through the list if apps, Thats a lot of stuff...

Personally, I think it should be lighter than this, but I guess thats
what I get for missing the IRC meeting :)

Will we have a chance to vote on these things? or do the IRC meetings
denote final say?

Glen

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Luther Goh Lu Fengelf...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Good to see the sudden spike in mailing list activity. I definitely need
 time to follow the threads.

 For those unaware, we have had 3 IRC meetings to discuss the goals and
 applications of Lubuntu. The logs are at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings. The objective of the meeting
 was to narrow down the list of applications, and also to decide the goals of
 Lubuntu I urge patience to go through the logs to understand what has
 transpired so far.

 I believe the goals of Lubuntu that was decided during that meeting is that
 Lubuntu will be a lightweight distro with appropriate functionality and
 usability. (Yes, I know that functionality and usability have subjective
 meaning).

 The list of applications at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications are
 just a list of applications we will choose for inclusion. Generally, only
 one will be included from each application category.

 At the meeting, members have decided to include Firefox, OpenOffice.org, VLC
 I am not sure if there will be changes following the discussion on the
 mailing list. Perhaps this can be discussed in the next IRC meeting?

 From: Ed Hewitt edwardahew...@googlemail.com
 To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:13:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy 
 Slow)

 I would say LXDE is lighter than Xfce, the LXDE developers seem to think so.
 I think 64mb Minimum is enough.

 2009/6/30 Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com

 http://wiki.xfce.org/minimum_requirements

 May help to guide

 I'd say 300Mhz CPU + 192Mb RAM



 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, jon york jr_...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Good point ed,

 we are forgetting our requirements, and getting head of ourselves.

 so now that we are mostly agreed on being small and lightweight, what
 will be the minimum and recommended specs?

 Jon York



 
 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:07:11 +0100
 From: edwardahew...@googlemail.com
 To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy 
 Slow)

 I believe its a bad idea having different versions of Lubuntu, having
 different meta packages of Lubuntu is not what lubutnu needs. Its all about
 lightweight distro. The Ubuntu guidelines requires the distro to have one
 build, lubuntu-desktop.

 All we need to do is make sure that this single meta package is bundled
 with a few lightweight apps for the end user to require out of the box which
 works well with the LXDE environment.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: lubuntu development model - Seeds vs UCK

2009-07-06 Thread Glen Bizeau
In viewing the DEMO of reconstructor 3.0, it looks like it will do a
shared project, and it looks web based???

Glen

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Luther Goh Lu Fengelf...@yahoo.com wrote:

 For anyone interested in creating the builds, you may wish to refer to the 
 forwarded email.



 - Forwarded Message 
 From: Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de
 To: Lubuntu lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:00:54 AM
 Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu development model - Seeds vs UCK

 Hello,

 we had a talk among different people about a good model for building
 the lubuntu distribution. A sustainable model suggested by some is the
 Seed model practiced by the Xubuntu developers.

 There are solutions like Ubuntu Customization Kid
 (http://uck.sourceforge.net´) and Reconstructor
 (http://reconstructor.aperantis.com) out there. However, they have
 some drawbacks and I am not sure how we can build a model to include
 different people in the process.

 I see the seeds model as a viable way to make lubuntu sustainable.
 There is a wiki page on the kubuntu wiki with more information:

 Seeds are the lists of packages we want to include in the
 distribution. The minimal, boot, standard, desktop, and either ship or
 live seeds go onto our CDs. Xubuntu seeds, being built on top of
 Ubuntu, inherit a shared set of seeds called the platform seeds.
 These platform seeds are maintained by Ubuntu Core Developers whereas
 the Xubuntu seeds are primarily taken care of by Xubuntu developers.
 Xubuntu seeds (as with all Ubuntu flavors) manage their seeds using
 the bazaar revision control system and host them on launchpad (build
 scripts pull the official seeds to build the cd).
 (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Xubuntu/Development/Build)

 More information on Seed Management here
 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SeedManagement.

 What do you think about it?

 Best,

 Mario

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-08-31 Thread Glen Bizeau
I like them, especially logo 2

Glen

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mario Behlingm...@mariobehling.de wrote:
 Dear all,

 enclosed a few desktop backgrounds and images I collected from the
 lubuntu designer forum at the lxde website.

 Please include.

 Best,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing alpha2 on msi wind U100

2010-01-26 Thread Glen Bizeau
 Its working very well, After the first time booting I had an error while
 login,there was something with the startlxde.What I did was changing Desktop
 session from default to Lubuntu.

This happened to me as well, same fix to resolve.

Glen




On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Josef Beroeat
rajatanpacel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hai all,

 Its working very well, After the first time booting I had an error while
 login,there was something with the startlxde.What I did was changing Desktop
 session from default to Lubuntu.

 I remember  the Ubuntu Koala Karmic had some display problem with Msi Wind.
 It was the backlight
 that starts flickering.. I realize here was the same problem but it was only
 for couple of seconds after the boot.

 And in the Koala Karmic there was some problem too with  detecting devices
 on usb... but here It didnt notice of it

 About the Wicd, Its still a problem connecting WIFI,I still got that cannot
 obtain IP adress in WEP mode.

 I plugged my modem Huawei E220 in my netbook. And it was detected. But I
 dont know no anymore
 how to use vwdial but It would be nice there is some thing to use it to
 connect my 3G modem

 Bluetooth I switched on but no sign of blue in the corner... So I have to
 install to progam... any suggestion please...

 Further as netbook user I am very satified with the this Alpha stage 2.
 Normally I really relay WIFI,my modem 3G and bluetooth. If hope these 3
 things can be fixed or can be more improved. There are 3 files attached with
 technical info's.I hope it will be enough to get Lubuntu better

 keep up the good work

 Regards Josef A. Beroeat

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default Browser

2010-02-02 Thread Glen Bizeau
I think this is one of those time when we are all going to agree to disagree...

Julien, if we go with Midori, can we put a script or shortcut on the
desktop that will install FF?

Personally I think this would fit the bill, have a lite browser, but
give users who don't know very much a simple way to
install FF. I am thinking about the illiterate here, bot people like
us who know what we are doing.

I'm fine with Midori since it seems to do everything FF does, but I
suspect if we have some way to track it, I think you
would see a lot of FF installs after the fact.

Glen

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:40:49 -, Joe xubu...@ewankeir.co.uk wrote:

 Hi Steve,

 I found changing preferences to identify as Safari was best for online
 banking. I think that's because Safari uses webkit too.

 Joe

 I know that trick, I have the User Agent Switcher plugin on FF for problems
 like that.  I’m just thinking of users who don’t know or understand about
 this.

 On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 22:32 +, Steve wrote:

 On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:09:37 -, supp...@buntfu.com wrote:

  Been using midori all day long at every site i can think of with no
  hiccups... going with firefox is a mistake. if you want a
  lightweight
  distro you have to make the number one program used light weight as
  well... otherwise its a like system but you spend most of your time in
  a
  pokey program
 
 I have found a couple of problems sites with Midori but they appear to be
 known and can be overcome. Sites that claim the browser is unsupported
 tend to work OK, a few sites told me FF 3.0, 3.5  3.6 was unsupported.
 Online banking sites are another matter, obviously I can only test mine,
 which refuses to cooperate with Midori, Opera and FF 3.5  3.6.  I am not
 sure if this will be a major problem, would the target group for this
 distro use online banking.
 The thing is, just how critical are these two.
 http://www.twotoasts.de/bugs/index.php?do=detailstask_id=399
 http://www.twotoasts.de/bugs/index.php?do=detailstask_id=168
 It looks like they are not going to get sorted any time soon.





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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Glen Bizeau
VBOX

installed in a virtual machine, see grub loading and then a _

Thats it...anyone have any insight into this?

Live CD works fine.

Thanks

Glen

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
 snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
 Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
 see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

 Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
 system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
 frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
 and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

 Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
 * Main changes in the seed :
  - chromium for the browser
  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
  - network-manager for the network
 * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
 quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
 it :)
 * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
 to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
 login ubuntu without password.

 Known bugs:
 * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
 to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2
 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
 you click on Try Lubuntu  Just wait, it will continue as normal.
 * Bug reported during testing :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

 Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Glen Bizeau
Can we see some quick concepts?

Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)

GB

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today: what
 about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
 wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth the
 time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why shouldn't we
 try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't have
 to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The colour
 green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources, how
 jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
 So what do you think, guys?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Glen Bizeau
http://iit.bloomu.edu/vthc/design/psychology.htm

Just for fun...

Glen

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can we see some quick concepts?

 Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)

 GB

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today: what
 about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
 wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth the
 time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why shouldn't we
 try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't have
 to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The colour
 green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources, how
 jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
 So what do you think, guys?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?

2010-02-17 Thread Glen Bizeau
I like logo2, looks nice with the black background.

I personally like it, you have my vote.

:)

Glen


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them

 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com

 Can we see some quick concepts?

 Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :)

 GB

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today:
  what
  about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the
  wallpapers, logos and  the whole design, but i think it would be worth
  the
  time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why
  shouldn't we
  try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't
  have
  to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The
  colour
  green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources, how
  jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said.
  So what do you think, guys?
 
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Intersting Article

2010-03-09 Thread Glen Bizeau
I especially like the little list at the bottom

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-a-resource-hog-949634.html

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] iconify windows

2010-03-12 Thread Glen Bizeau
That is usually left-right click at the same time.

Glen

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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@uk.vpolink.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Left Click to iconify all windows.  Middle Click to shade them.
 Middle Click ?? I only have left and right clicks ?
 Regards,
 Phill.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 1 Logo

2010-03-19 Thread Glen Bizeau
I also noticed that when you open pcman and click on the cd-rom icon,
it simply closes. since I am on the live CD, There is a pretty good
chance that there is a CD in the drive, will install and check it with
a non-mounted CD as well.

Glen



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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I have tried livecd. There is huge improvement since last alpha. Thank
 you. But I have noticed following bugs:
 1) when I launch screensaver (from parameters) I see again  annoying error
 telling me that there is no directory /usr/share/backgrounds. May be create
 this directory by default?
 2) I have noticed one way to crash pcmanfm2. I have gone to Go-Network
 and after it showed me my network, I have pressed it. And pcmanfm2 crashes.
 3) Also there is no terminal emulator by default (that is specified in
 preferences). May be it should be?
 4) When I marked to show WM menu (going to parameters of my desktop) it was
 very difficult for me to return to parameters of my desktop. After few
 minutes of trying to find the solution, I go to terminal and type pcmanfm2
 --desktop-pref and it appears. May be this window should be able to appear
 under Desktop Settings in WM menu?
 In the near future as soon as I find some free time I will do fresh install
 on my computer and tell you about my experiences.
 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Glen Bizeau
or the graphical way

alt-f2

gksudo leafpad

Glen


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Open lxterminal

 sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg

 Glen


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 I need to modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg in lubuntu that I've set up in usb 
 drive.
 But I found that it is not possible through lubuntu.
 I had to boot up kubuntu to edit it.

 What is the equivalent in Lubuntu for 'kdesudo kate' or 'gksudo gedit' ?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu

2010-04-21 Thread Glen Bizeau
Open lxterminal

sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Glen


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote:

 I need to modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg in lubuntu that I've set up in usb drive.
 But I found that it is not possible through lubuntu.
 I had to boot up kubuntu to edit it.

 What is the equivalent in Lubuntu for 'kdesudo kate' or 'gksudo gedit' ?

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Hardware Detection ?

2010-04-21 Thread Glen Bizeau
I installed Lubuntu and ubuntu 10.4B on the same laptop, Ubuntu 10B
detected and installed the hardware drivers for the system, Lubuntu
did not, even after I started Jockey manually, no HW detection.

Anyone else notice this?

Thanks

Glen

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