Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-18 Thread Matthew Byers
Yes it will affect Pentium II. Do we have options of compiling the
kernel within lubuntu to continue support.

2011/11/18 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

 But there're Lubuntu users on Pentium II and similar machines. In fact
 they're happy an OS can handle those trashy computers and make them
 useable.

 Will this affect those users?



   http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/  http://www.lubuntu.net/



 2011/11/18 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com

 I forgot to forward this mail from ubuntu-devel, it may have an impact on
 Lubuntu since we shared the same kernel.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

 Begin forwarded message:

 Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:43:28 -0700
 From: Tim Gardner tim.gard...@canonical.com
 To: Ubuntu Kernel Team kernel-t...@lists.ubuntu.com,
 ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise
 Pangolin


 Per discussion at UDS the kernel team is proposing to drop the non-PAE
 i386 flavour. The upgrade path for non-PAE users will be the PAE kernel.
 Those CPUs that do not have i686 and PAE support will be orphaned. To
 the best of my knowledge, these include Intel CPUs prior to Pentium II,
 400Mhz Pentium M, VIA C3, and Geode LX. As far as I know, there are no
 laptop or desktop class CPUs being produced that do not meet these
 minimum requirements.

 Before I do something that is difficult to revert, I would like to hear
 from the development community why we should continue to maintain a
 kernel flavour that is (in my opinion) getting increasingly low
 utilization. It is my feeling that an extremely high percentage of users
 of the non-PAE kernel have a CPU that is PAE capable.

 If there is sufficient community demand (and support), I would be
 willing to sponsor the first non-PAE kernel upload to Universe.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/PreciseKernelConfigReview

 We'll be conducting a similar survey for powerpc.

 rtg

 P.S. For those of you that are totally confused by this email, PAE
 (Physical Address Extension) was an addition to 32 bit x86 CPUs that
 allowed them to address more then 4GB physical memory.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-15 Thread Matthew Byers
my vote would be for wednesday

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 yes, I forgot to check with the fridge. According to this, we will
 probably need to push it to 8 PM, or on Tuesday 6 PM.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

 On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:45:15 +0100
 Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

  If we want the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting (which is preferred I think)
 then
  we should go an hour later. There is already a meeting every week from
  Unity Contributors Team Meeting. Check the Fridge to see which times
 are
  still available for #ubuntu-meeting.
 
  I think the time is pretty good, but that is for my time-zone.
 
  With metta, Chris
 
  On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:18, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
   On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Are we going to use #lubuntu(-offtopic) or #ubuntu-meeting?
   
  
   It will be better if we have it in #ubuntu-meeting.
  
Time is great for me, cycling it aint bad idea either when thinking
about people living on the other side of the planet, like asia or
western side of the america.
  
   It will be better if we decide about cycling time after seeing the
   members present for the meeting
  
   Julien Lavergne kirjoitti 14.11.2011 9:43:
Hi,
I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can
 do
it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.
   
  
   Exactly, we need topics atleast one day before the meeting so that
   each can come forward and out the opinions.
  
  
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc pause

2011-09-26 Thread Matthew Byers
JFYI from a developer's viewpoint, 14 days of in-activity is quite some
time! I would suggest actually installing say Lubuntu 11.04 and continue on
progress. Especially to get a effective working release of LSC for in time
of Lubuntu release. Just my two cents.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote:

 Ok, i'm switched to debian (xubuntu damaged) and i noticed that apt_pkg has
 changed a lot of functions names (what a mess).
 so i will restart to work on lsc when Lubuntu 11.10 will be released
 (something like 14 days i think), to test it better.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center

2011-09-09 Thread Matthew Byers
As i was unable to install 11.04 on my system from usb i had to install
10.04 awhile back. After not being able to test the lsc i decided to upgrade
via update manager last night. The upgrade went smoothly and i was able to
readd the ppa and install lsc but am unable to run it. I try calling it from
menu but nothing happens and i try running from cli and get this:

stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ lubuntu-software-center
Opening config file
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/lubuntu-software-center, line 464, in module
app = LscControl()
  File /usr/bin/lubuntu-software-center, line 38, in __init__
self.ui = UI.Gui()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/UI.py, line 42, in __init__
control.__init__()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/control.py, line 80, in
__init__
controller = Controller()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/control.py, line 32, in
__init__
self.parser.readfp(self.conf_file)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/ConfigParser.py, line 316, in readfp
self._read(fp, filename)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/ConfigParser.py, line 504, in _read
raise MissingSectionHeaderError(fpname, lineno, line)
ConfigParser.MissingSectionHeaderError: File contains no section headers.
file: /home/stlsaint/.config/lsc/LSC.ini, line: 2
'[General]\n'
stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$


On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Matthew Byers faintstlsa...@gmail.comwrote:

 I readded and tried again but still not working. I will try another way
 later. Thanks folks
 On Sep 8, 2011 9:56 AM, Gareth Rigby gareth.rigby...@gmail.com wrote:
  Matthew,
  My apologies I didn't notice it spelt correctly below that! I had no
  problem installing from synaptic under the name
  lubuntu-software-center Maybe try searching for just lubuntu and
  scroll through. Try reloading in synaptic and if it still doesn't
  appear, click on software sources and edit the PPA you added a box
  will appear, check that it matches these details:-
 
  Type: Binary
  URI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu
  Distribution:natty (Assuming you are on natty of course! Put your
  distro in here if different
  Components: main
  comments :
 
  Hope this helps, mine added straight in on the terminal, but I removed
  it and added it back in synaptic.
  with add in software sources and typed  *ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa* in
  the popup that appears, simply reloaded and and searched for lubuntu.
 
  Cheers
 
  Gareth
 
  On 08/09/11 16:06, Matthew Byers wrote:
 
  Yes I spelled wrong at first but you can see via the rest of my
  snippet that I correctly executed the command. Is it under a different
  name than lubuntu-software-center cause even via synaptic I don't see
  it. I was able to install the lubuntu-control-center just fine just
  not software center.
 
  On Sep 8, 2011 3:31 AM, Gareth Rigby gareth.rigby...@gmail.com
  mailto:gareth.rigby...@gmail.com wrote:
   Matthew,
   Looking through your email and it appears you have spelt repository
   incorrect in your command. you have spelt it repositoriy Might be
   easier to use synaptic to install it
  
   cheers Gareth
  
   On 08/09/11 10:59, James Gifford wrote:
   Hey Matthew - to install it, run sudo apt-get update to update your
   repository list and then try to install it.
  
  
   Cheers,
   James Gifford
   http://jamesrgifford.com
  
   On Sep 8, 2011, at 0:40, Matthew Byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com
  mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com
   mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried
   installing and it was unable to find it.
  
   stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy
   ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
   sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found
   stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository
   ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
   Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options
   --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg
   --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
   --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver
   keyserver.ubuntu.com http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
  http://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv
   F57545CD115BD805E0FE496EACC3E225CF57B0F4
   gpg: requesting key CF57B0F4 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
  http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
   http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
   gpg: key CF57B0F4: Launchpad PPA for Lubuntu not changed
   gpg: Total number processed: 1
   gpg: unchanged: 1
   stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install
  lubuntu-software-center
   Reading package lists... Done
   Building dependency tree
   Reading state information... Done
   E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-software-center
  
  
   On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com
  mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com
   mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   lubuntu-software-center is available in this PPA :
   https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center

2011-09-08 Thread Matthew Byers
Yes I spelled wrong at first but you can see via the rest of my snippet that
I correctly executed the command. Is it under a different name than
lubuntu-software-center cause even via synaptic I don't see it. I was able
to install the lubuntu-control-center just fine just not software center.
On Sep 8, 2011 3:31 AM, Gareth Rigby gareth.rigby...@gmail.com wrote:
 Matthew,
 Looking through your email and it appears you have spelt repository
 incorrect in your command. you have spelt it repositoriy Might be
 easier to use synaptic to install it

 cheers Gareth

 On 08/09/11 10:59, James Gifford wrote:
 Hey Matthew - to install it, run sudo apt-get update to update your
 repository list and then try to install it.


 Cheers,
 James Gifford
 http://jamesrgifford.com

 On Sep 8, 2011, at 0:40, Matthew Byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com
 mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried
 installing and it was unable to find it.

 stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy
 ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
 sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found
 stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository
 ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
 Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options
 --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg
 --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
 --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver
 keyserver.ubuntu.com http://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv
 F57545CD115BD805E0FE496EACC3E225CF57B0F4
 gpg: requesting key CF57B0F4 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
 http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
 gpg: key CF57B0F4: Launchpad PPA for Lubuntu not changed
 gpg: Total number processed: 1
 gpg: unchanged: 1
 stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install
lubuntu-software-center
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-software-center


 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com
 mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,

 lubuntu-software-center is available in this PPA :
 https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
 https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
 Don't forget it's still a work in progress, but it should be
 quite usable now. Please report any bugs on the launchpad project
 : https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center

2011-09-08 Thread Matthew Byers
I readded and tried again but still not working. I will try another way
later. Thanks folks
On Sep 8, 2011 9:56 AM, Gareth Rigby gareth.rigby...@gmail.com wrote:
 Matthew,
 My apologies I didn't notice it spelt correctly below that! I had no
 problem installing from synaptic under the name
 lubuntu-software-center Maybe try searching for just lubuntu and
 scroll through. Try reloading in synaptic and if it still doesn't
 appear, click on software sources and edit the PPA you added a box
 will appear, check that it matches these details:-

 Type: Binary
 URI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu
 Distribution:natty (Assuming you are on natty of course! Put your
 distro in here if different
 Components: main
 comments :

 Hope this helps, mine added straight in on the terminal, but I removed
 it and added it back in synaptic.
 with add in software sources and typed  *ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa* in
 the popup that appears, simply reloaded and and searched for lubuntu.

 Cheers

 Gareth

 On 08/09/11 16:06, Matthew Byers wrote:

 Yes I spelled wrong at first but you can see via the rest of my
 snippet that I correctly executed the command. Is it under a different
 name than lubuntu-software-center cause even via synaptic I don't see
 it. I was able to install the lubuntu-control-center just fine just
 not software center.

 On Sep 8, 2011 3:31 AM, Gareth Rigby gareth.rigby...@gmail.com
 mailto:gareth.rigby...@gmail.com wrote:
  Matthew,
  Looking through your email and it appears you have spelt repository
  incorrect in your command. you have spelt it repositoriy Might be
  easier to use synaptic to install it
 
  cheers Gareth
 
  On 08/09/11 10:59, James Gifford wrote:
  Hey Matthew - to install it, run sudo apt-get update to update your
  repository list and then try to install it.
 
 
  Cheers,
  James Gifford
  http://jamesrgifford.com
 
  On Sep 8, 2011, at 0:40, Matthew Byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com
 mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com
  mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried
  installing and it was unable to find it.
 
  stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy
  ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
  sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found
  stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository
  ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
  Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options
  --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg
  --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
  --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver
  keyserver.ubuntu.com http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
 http://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv
  F57545CD115BD805E0FE496EACC3E225CF57B0F4
  gpg: requesting key CF57B0F4 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
 http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
  http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
  gpg: key CF57B0F4: Launchpad PPA for Lubuntu not changed
  gpg: Total number processed: 1
  gpg: unchanged: 1
  stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install
 lubuntu-software-center
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done
  E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-software-center
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com
 mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com
  mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  lubuntu-software-center is available in this PPA :
  https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
 https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
  https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
  Don't forget it's still a work in progress, but it should be
  quite usable now. Please report any bugs on the launchpad project
  : https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
 
  Regards,
  Julien Lavergne
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center

2011-09-07 Thread Matthew Byers
I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried installing and
it was unable to find it.

stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy
ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found
stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring
--secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg
--keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
--keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv
F57545CD115BD805E0FE496EACC3E225CF57B0F4
gpg: requesting key CF57B0F4 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: key CF57B0F4: Launchpad PPA for Lubuntu not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1
stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install lubuntu-software-center
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-software-center


On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  Hi,

 lubuntu-software-center is available in this PPA :
 https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppahttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
 Don't forget it's still a work in progress, but it should be quite usable
 now. Please report any bugs on the launchpad project :
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Light-Weight software center

2011-07-27 Thread Matthew Byers
Awesome project idea. For starters i will suggest python coding standards,
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/



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 Hi everybody, i'mt trying to do a user-friendly and light package
 manager ( a kind of Lubuntu software center) in python (bad?).
 now the code is very poor, i hope you can help me (simply suggesting or
 coding).
 the active branch is lp:~stephen-smally/+junk/lubuntu-software-center
 i'm using apt and aptdaemon, if somebody knows a better way, please tell
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New ISO images available : Lubuntu

2011-07-27 Thread Matthew Byers
The image size will become smaller.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM, gs linuxman...@att.net wrote:

 **
  On 07/27/2011 12:08 AM, Lance wrote:

   This is excellent news. Hopefully Ubuntu QA will be able to add the
 Lubuntu images to iso-testing by either Alpha3 or Beta1. Once Lubuntu is
 included in iso-testing I'll shift my testing from Ubuntu desktop images to
 Lubuntu desktop images.

 Don't worry too much about the oversize images. I've been iso-testing for
 quite some time and oversize images are the norm during alpha stage, and
 even the daily beta images are often oversize. As RC and final iso-testing
 approaches more effort is made at reducing the size of the images to under
 700MB.

 Many thanks for all of the great work,

 Lance



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 From: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com gi...@ubuntu.com
 Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] New ISO images available : Lubuntu
 To: Ubuntu Developers 
 ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.comubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
 Cc: lubuntu-desktop 
 lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.netlubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 4:52 PM

 Hi Ubuntu developers,

 New images have pop up on cdimage.ubuntu.com [1]. Finally, Lubuntu is
 out of the Ubuntu factory :) [2]

 For people who don't know Lubuntu, this is a quick presentation. Lubuntu
 is a distribution based on Ubuntu, and the LXDE desktop environnement.
 The main goal is to provide a very lightweight distribution, but with
 all the advantages of the Ubuntu world (repositories, support ...).
 Currently we are using :
 - Chromium for the browser
 - Openbox for the windows manager
 - Pcmanfm for the file manager
 - Abiword + Gnumeric for office work
 - Pidgin for IM
 - Audacious for playing music
 - Gnome-mplayer for videos
 - Some GNOME components : evince, file-roller, gnome-keyring
 - Most of the LXDE components
 You can find the complete list of applications by default on the wiki
 [3].

 After 2 years of work, and 3 unofficial releases (10.04, 10.10 and
 11.04), we had recently an official go from the Technical Board and ISO
 images are now made like other Ubuntu flavors. I hope the 11.10 will be
 the 1st official release of Lubuntu as a member of the Ubuntu family :)

 We have 2 important particularities. Like Xubuntu, we use another
 GTK-based desktop environnement than GNOME, and we try to avoid
 unnecessary GNOME depends which could slow the system. We need some
 GNOME parts because LXDE doesn't provide all necessary components. It's
 the reason why we are very careful about dependencies of those
 applications.

 We are also very strict with ressources requirement. It's the reason why
 we don't include all Ubuntu specific applications. For example, we don't
 include Software-Center because it's still a bit heavy for some of our
 targets.

 I would like to thanks all people who make this happen, especially Mark,
 Colin and Emmet, and all people involved in the development of Lubuntu
 and LXDE.

 If you want to talk to the Lubuntu community, you can use our mailing
 list 
 (lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net)
 or IRC : #lubuntu on
 Freenode. You can also find information on our wiki [3].

 Thanks for your attention :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


 [1] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/
 [2] It's still young images, which for now, are oversized, don't load
 the desktop session, and have wrong splash images .. they should be
 better in the futur :)
 [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications
 [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Light-Weight software center

2011-07-27 Thread Matthew Byers
PCMan has expressed a very valid point.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:50 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:

 A key question is, what makes your project lighter than software center?
 What's the bottle neck of software center? What makes it so heavy?
 Practically what will you do to make yours light?
 Usually just rewriting a program with less features won't make it
 significantly lighter or faster unless you overcome the problem of the
 original software. Otherwise it is not worth the effort and maintaince
 cost.

 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Stephen Smally eco.st...@fastwebnet.it
 wrote:
  Hi everybody, i'mt trying to do a user-friendly and light package
  manager ( a kind of Lubuntu software center) in python (bad?).
  now the code is very poor, i hope you can help me (simply suggesting or
  coding).
  the active branch is lp:~stephen-smally/+junk/lubuntu-software-center
  i'm using apt and aptdaemon, if somebody knows a better way, please tell
  me.
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-09 Thread Matthew Byers
 Well, team - Any other ideas? (I'm allowed screen shots in the
presentation as well).
Maybe some screenshots of resource usage doing various activites, IE: idle,
watching a movie, web browsing, music, etc.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Friday 08 July 2011 à 21:48 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit :
   1. What is Lubuntu? (two sentence definition)
   2. Why do we need abother *ubuntu flavour? (reason for our existence)
   3. Who is it useful to? (intended audience)
   4. How to get started (where to download, where to get help)
   5. What do do when you have issues with it (where/how to report bugs)
   6. Minimal hardware needed:
  6.1 for GUI install
  6.2 for manual install on very low RAM machines
   7. Current known issues (point to FAQ)
   8. What changes will Lubuntu Oneiric bring?
   9. How you can help (testing/developing/translating/etc.)
  10. Any questions?
 Sound good. If they have special questions :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs


  That should fill a UDW slot, I'd think?  It's not super
  developer-focused, but that is probably OK?  Depends on who the
  intended audience is, which I am not totally clear about.
 As I understood, the Lubuntu session will not be too much developers
 oriented, more a first description for the Ubuntu world :)

  BTW we should check what we officially are... a Ubuntu variant, or
  flavour or ... whatever it is... and then use that term
  consistently.
 I think flavour is the official term, but I'm not sure the term is
 used consistently, even for the others (Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc ...)


  I'd tend to skip the history -- users and potential developers are
  likely to care more about what Lubuntu can do for them *now* and what
  it
  *will* do in the future, than about the past.
 +1

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some new apps

2011-07-03 Thread matthew byers
 I'm not really satisfied with the applications which comes with lubuntu,
Good thing there is a repository with hundreds of apps to choose from to get
a system to your liking. Lubuntu is meant to be light on resources so having
heavy applications installed on default defeats that purpose. As far as
adding your app to lubuntuwell that will fall on the developers
decision! Glad you like the distro!!

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:24 PM, King Xerxes darklinkcomp...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi!
 I'm not really satisfied with the applications which comes with lubuntu,
 however, lubuntu it self is amazing. I'm making a Text editor for
 lubuntu, which will target developers, since Leafpad is not very handy
 for them, hope you will integrate my application in lubuntu.  Also, as
 for image manipulation programs, I suggest LazPaint, try it your self ;)
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazpaint/.
 Thanks a lot,
 Sincerely,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

2011-06-04 Thread matthew byers
Per the post on the foums that i just read is all this questioning the need
of a official forum for lubuntu?

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

   I may have done a bit of a bad job explaining myself. I'm not too
 concerned ATM about the bugs I encountered, I'm just testing the waters in
 order to be as useful to the Lubuntu project as possible. Since time is
 limited please look at my test bug report and also this forum thread (no
 need to comment at the forums):

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10901610postcount=10

 I did have one other thought however. Do you suppose the Ubuntu Forum mods
 might grant us permission to start a sub-forum here:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46

 All thoughts are welcome. My ideas may stink and I don't mind being told
 so.


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 From: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
 To: Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com
 Cc: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com, lubuntu-desktop 
 lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 8:38 PM


 Hello Lance,

 I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart
 buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in
 creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just
 pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the
 installer (bug 3)?

 Welcome to the crew by the way.

 With metta,

 Chris Druif

 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside 
 phi...@ubuntu.comhttp://mc/compose?to=phi...@ubuntu.com
  wrote:

  hiyas kansasnoob,

 firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I
 used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik,
 just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has
 been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we
 include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break.
 Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000
 dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by
 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building
 system. This should be done for a2.

 The general page for 11.10 is at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers

 Progress on the apport hooks can be found at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO

 If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast
 of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to
 your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!)
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to
 get the lubuntu discussions.

 Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what
 better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing
 area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes.

 Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you
 great people again.
 For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know
 where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we
 need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle
 (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ).
 Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but
 realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough
 devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting
 coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like
 this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our
 devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great
 :P

 My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers,

 Phill.
 P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D
 @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct
 me.



   On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance 
 lbsol...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at
 iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and kansasnoob
 at Ubuntu forums.

 I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of
 the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's
 images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing.

 Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here:

 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/

 And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early
 in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The
 specific bugs are:

 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type *startx*to 
 get the DE.

 2) The default DE lacks restart or shutdown 

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu base/minimal desktop

2011-05-27 Thread matthew byers
Sounds interesting. I would think that if you are leaving all other apps up
to the user you minus well leave the browser up to them as well.

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Just been talking with someone about a spin of Lubuntu he made himself.
  It's basically the live CD with out the applications.  The only stuff on it
 are the System Tools and Preferences menu, and Terminal and Leafpad in the
 Accessories menu.  The idea being that people can install their preferred
 apps. or for use on Eeepc netbooks with 2 gig SSD where not every thing from
 the live CD may be needed.
 One thing we did wonder was, would people need a browser as part of the
 install or would they rather just pick the one they want from Synaptic.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: busy box

2011-05-19 Thread matthew byers
Possible corrupt iso download



On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 hiyas,

 anyone use VM machines and know what this error is?

 Thanks,

 Phill.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Jens Leineweber j.leinewe...@gmx.net
 Date: Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:40 PM
 Subject: busy box
 To: Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com


  hey phil,



 with this mail you get the screenshot i talked to you about a few days
 back.



 hope you could work with that.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] packaging hooks

2011-05-18 Thread matthew byers
I never viewed it that way. But your are absolutely right and I agree to
move in that direction.  I wrote(hacked together) two hooks, one for lxdm
and the other for lxlauncher. So i will move on to packaging. Thanks for the
encouragement Jonathan.
On May 18, 2011 12:32 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On 05/17/2011 02:39 PM, matthew byers wrote:

 Hey folks, what is the supported method of getting apport hooks
 packaged? Is the process to do as brian murray suggest and: In the
 event that you write a hook for a package that you can not *upload*
 or need help getting sponsored, please report a bug about the
 package missing a hook. Then add the hook as a patch (or a merge
 proposal)...

 OR do i just send the hook to say gilir or jmarsden for packaging into
 the appropriate package? Cheers

 You left out another important possibility: open the bug as Brian Murray
 suggested, then attach the hook to it, and *then* package the
 application to include your new hook, and attach the debdiff to the bug
 report.

 This could be a very good way to practice your own packaging skills :)

 Once that is done, you can of course ask gilir (or jmarsden!) to look at
 your work, suggest improvements, etc. gilir can do even more and
 actually approve your newly improved package, of course :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

2011-05-17 Thread matthew byers
I used the startup tool in Ubuntu that gave the same results of the bug.
On May 17, 2011 2:32 AM, Julien Lavergne julien.laver...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Le 17 mai 2011 à 03:20, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With
that being said, due to this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997
 I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if anybody
has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10 until
this is resolved.

 Yes it is for next cycle and you should use the ubuntu tool to generate
the USB. It is usually better than unebootin.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

2011-05-17 Thread matthew byers
Well the mini iso idea as great a idea as it is, it proves to be a bit much
for a user to simply want to install lubuntu! I just reinstalled 10.10 fresh
so i may attempt to upgrade from there (maybe, i always was a fan of 10.10)

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 you can try making a bootable USB with Ubuntu mini-ISO, install a
 commandline system then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop.

 You can also try upgrading your existing 10.10 install.

 Regards!
 Mikhail

   On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:11 PM, matthew byers 
 faintstlsa...@gmail.comwrote:

   I used the startup tool in Ubuntu that gave the same results of the
 bug.
   On May 17, 2011 2:32 AM, Julien Lavergne julien.laver...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Le 17 mai 2011 à 03:20, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com a écrit
 :
 
  Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With
 that being said, due to this bug:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997
  I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if
 anybody has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10
 until this is resolved.
 
  Yes it is for next cycle and you should use the ubuntu tool to generate
 the USB. It is usually better than unebootin.
 
  Regards,
  Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

2011-05-17 Thread matthew byers
Its not the process that worries me, its the bug of others reporting not
being able to install.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well, it's no rocket science, really ;) Give it a try, maybe you're going
 to enjoy it ;)

 Now lubuntu-desktop resides in the official repo so you no longer need the
 add-apt-repository magic... ;)

 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:05 AM, matthew byers 
 faintstlsa...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well the mini iso idea as great a idea as it is, it proves to be a bit
 much for a user to simply want to install lubuntu! I just reinstalled 10.10
 fresh so i may attempt to upgrade from there (maybe, i always was a fan of
 10.10)


 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 you can try making a bootable USB with Ubuntu mini-ISO, install a
 commandline system then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop.

 You can also try upgrading your existing 10.10 install.

 Regards!
 Mikhail

   On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:11 PM, matthew byers 
 faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote:

   I used the startup tool in Ubuntu that gave the same results of the
 bug.
   On May 17, 2011 2:32 AM, Julien Lavergne julien.laver...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Le 17 mai 2011 à 03:20, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com a
 écrit :
 
  Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle?
 With that being said, due to this bug:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997
  I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if
 anybody has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10
 until this is resolved.
 
  Yes it is for next cycle and you should use the ubuntu tool to
 generate the USB. It is usually better than unebootin.
 
  Regards,
  Julien Lavergne

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[Lubuntu-desktop] packaging hooks

2011-05-17 Thread matthew byers
Hey folks, what is the supported method of getting apport hooks packaged? Is
the process to do as brian murray suggest and: In the event that you write
a hook for a package that you can not *upload* or need help getting
sponsored, please report a bug about the package missing a hook. Then add
the hook as a patch (or a merge proposal)...

OR do i just send the hook to say gilir or jmarsden for packaging into the
appropriate package?  Cheers

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[Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

2011-05-16 Thread matthew byers
Per this page does this mean the listed packages require apport hooks?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#Packaging Ubuntu / Debian
tasks

Also i thought packages in the ubuntu repository had hooks per this page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Package Hooks

Or am i missing the point all together here?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

2011-05-16 Thread matthew byers
Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With that
being said, due to this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997
I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if anybody has
been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10 until this
is resolved.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Tuesday 17 May 2011 à 00:36 +0300, matthew byers a écrit :
  Per this page does this mean the listed packages require apport hooks?
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#Packaging Ubuntu /
  Debian tasks   Also i thought packages in the ubuntu repository had
  hooks per this page:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Package Hooks

 You need to write a apport hook to collect additional informations, such
 as configuration files, list of packages installed ... It's something
 you need to add manually, to extend apport support.

 Example, for libfm/pcmanfm :

 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/libfm/oneiric/view/head:/debian/apport/source_libfm.py

 Currently, not all LXDE packages have a hook, the list is on the TODO
 page.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files

2011-05-14 Thread matthew byers
IMO, the more the better. I will be updating the wiki to reflect my download
location so the wiki will have three Direct download links on it. But i
feel we need to also update this to reflect on the website to show all the
available downloads. As of now if you go to lubuntu.net and hit get
lubuntu you will be downloading directly from gilir's link, (not torrent)
so i suggest we create another site page giving the various download links.

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.comwrote:

 Not answering your question or anything but in regards to the 64 bit .iso,
 please be sure to note that it is a contributed non-official build wherever
 it is referenced.

 Thanks.

   On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.comwrote:

  Hi,

 I know you had a great UDS, with the kind availabilty of the new area for
 hosting iso's on, what do wish me to do?

 As torrent is always preferred, I need to update the wiki areas
 (especially for the new 11.04 64 bit version). I'm guessing that the new
 hoster becomes primary direct download site, do you still wish me to be a
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mirror available : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/

2011-05-13 Thread matthew byers
W00T!! Very nice!!

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 Hi,

 A French company offer us a mirror for all Lubuntu ISO (10.04 to 11.04) :
 http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/
 I encourage you to download there, as we have some statistics on downloads
 :)

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: New mirror available : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/

2011-05-13 Thread matthew byers
Sorry, sent to chris only on that one.see below

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From: matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mirror available :
http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/
To: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com


wiki has been updated to show new download location. I will add my link on
there as soon as i finish uploading.


On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also the unofficial 64 bit Natty? ;-)
 On May 13, 2011 2:37 PM, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote:
  W00T!! Very nice!!
 
  On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  A French company offer us a mirror for all Lubuntu ISO (10.04 to 11.04)
 :
  http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/
  I encourage you to download there, as we have some statistics on
 downloads
  :)
 
  Regards,
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[Lubuntu-desktop] more updating...expired domain

2011-05-13 Thread matthew byers
Hey i dont know if Mario Behling is still part of the team but they are
listed as the owner of the lubuntu launchpad page and on there are some lxde
links but since the lxde.org domain expired (2 May 2011) then all the other
sub-domains went down as well to inlcude:

http://lxde.org/
http://lxde.org/http://join.lxde.org/
http://join.lxde.org/http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging#Who

http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging#WhoI am not sure if the site
just moved elsewhere but all wiki's/launchpad and lubuntu website will need
to be updated to reflect this if there are any sites still linking to
lxde.org.

If i am just repeating what everyone already knows then please excuse my
ignorance on this!!

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[Lubuntu-desktop] updated site

2011-05-13 Thread matthew byers
Hey folks i dont know who maintains the lubuntu.net site but i suggest it
get updated to more recent information and download links cause as of now
gilir's direct download is taking the brute force of downloads it seems.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] more updating...expired domain

2011-05-13 Thread matthew byers
Mario, got ya, thanks for the clarification.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote:

 Hi,

 we are transferring the lxde.org domain to another host. It will be
 available again from tomorrow on.

 Thanks for your hints and patience.

 - Mario

 On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hey i dont know if Mario Behling is still part of the team but they are
  listed as the owner of the lubuntu launchpad page and on there are some
 lxde
  links but since the lxde.org domain expired (2 May 2011) then all the
 other
  sub-domains went down as well to inlcude:
  http://lxde.org/
  http://join.lxde.org/
  http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging#Who
  I am not sure if the site just moved elsewhere but all wiki's/launchpad
 and
  lubuntu website will need to be updated to reflect this if there are any
  sites still linking to lxde.org.
  If i am just repeating what everyone already knows then please excuse my
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )

2011-05-05 Thread matthew byers
HA! I never knew peppermint was for off lubuntu!!! nice ;)

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.comwrote:

 For the time being, I can go ahead and whip up a 64 bit .iso if there is
 any interest in me doing so. It shouldn't take but a couple of hours. I have
 most of one put together already as I'll need it to build the 64 bit
 Peppermint release.


 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Wed, 04 May 2011 20:38:25 -0700
 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  As well as the expected publicity and marketing benefits, at a
  technical level we would be able to use the official Ubuntu build
  infrastructure for creating our ISOs, and official test setups for
  tracking which tests have been done on which builds of Lubuntu.

 We will have also 32, 64 bits ISO, + alternate ISO, + ARM ISO (for mobile
 devices), for free :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New header

2011-05-03 Thread matthew byers
I do like the blue scheme but i suggest maxing how many topics are shown in
each box to only 4. The orange lettering when looked at long enough for
reading will start to blur together. The BT scheme only uses 4 topics as you
can see compared the the suggested 5 topics.

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aloha tout moun, Julien,

 I think you meant with too big that it's too high. As I'm clueless as to
 how we could split the sub-teams up into two Blocks. As that block become 5
 high, it's no use making the other block smaller, would only look
 weird/ugly. The dark blue top can be made half it's height (better put, the
 height of the font), so that would make it a bit lower. But that's just
 marginally smaller. About the logo's I can be short: they are attachments
 and not links to online images and I didn't upload images to those
 attachments. I've updated the banner to be smaller in height and uploaded
 one image to the attachment of the Main block. Check again here [1] and give
 m your opinions. Note: second logo is still broken as in nothing uploaded.
 Need too look for a proper image for there.

 With metta,

 Chris Druif

  [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif/Sandbox

 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 22:38, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le Monday 02 May 2011 à 21:47 +0200, UndiFineD a écrit :
  What would be a small screen for you Julien ?

 A eeePC 701, 800x480 :)

 Note that it's not a blocker, just a note :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Well done!

2011-05-03 Thread matthew byers
Very Nice!!

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 Hi,

 It is with immense pleasure that I can tell the team that we are now at #4
 on DistroWatch (http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1) for the last
 seven days.
 This is an outstanding achievement. Each and everyone of you should feel
 proud. Lubuntu is a team effort and every bit of input regardless of being
 from telling people about lubuntu or a minor grumble to a major bug fix has
 made 11.04 something quite special.
 I could gloat, but I'll save that for the offtopic channel :P

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Translations

2011-05-01 Thread matthew byers
Hey folks. Just curious as to what is the process to start the translation
process for lubuntu.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates (wiki standards)

2011-04-30 Thread matthew byers
These two are great start pages:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki
this second page is more focused on guidelines and syntax:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote:

 On 04/29/2011 06:10 AM, matthew byers wrote:

  I give a big +1 to ensuring wiki syntax standards are kept the same
  across the board.

 Where can one find the Ubuntu Wiki standards policy?

 This would be more useful to me than asking questions each time I edit;
 I can learn to follow the official standard.  Just as there is the
 ubuntu-policy package clearly defining Debian Policy and related
 matters, presumably there is something for Ubuntu wiki standards...?

 +1 for following appropriate standards... tell me where I can read the
 appropriate standard please :)

 Thanks,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates

2011-04-29 Thread matthew byers
I give a big +1 to ensuring wiki syntax standards are kept the same across
the board. As a member of the wiki team (BT) i can let everyone know that
there is a bt wiki channel available for questions along with #lubuntu
channel. wiki channel: #ubuntu-beginners-wiki

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:


  On 29 April 2011 16:14, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 On 04/25/2011 10:59 PM, Jared Norris wrote:

  On 26 April 2011 15:27, Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com wrote:

  We have to manually subscribe to each page, which is a pain.

  I have set up to subscribe to /Lubuntu/.* on both wiki.u.c and
  help.u.c which does subscribe you to every change for all sub pages
  as well.

 I thought there *had* to be a better way than manually subscribing to
 each page, and was about to try to prove it on a local MediaWiki
 installation -- thanks for saving me the effort :)


 Took me a while to find it but I've subscribed to 3 whole teams pages and
 subpageson the wiki so I get lots of mail now.



 That should take care of the wiki team tracking changes others make.



 Personally, if I find something I think needs changing in a wiki, I'm
 fairly likely to 'just do it' rather than seek out someone else to make
 the edit for me, unless I am unsure about what the right content
 should be.  Wiki's are all about empowering everyone to make changes as
 needed to improve things :)


 Just doing it is a great way to get everything down, sometimes the
 formatting can be a pain in the backside to keep it up to standard though
 (from Ubuntu's perspective). So I'd always encourage anyone and everyone to
 add information to the wiki pages as they find them either wrong or not
 complete. If you aren't sure and are doing more than a little edit by all
 means just drop by the IRC channel or mailing list and ask someone to peruse
 it for you. We're more than happy to help with all the trimmings, just
 having someone willing to do the content more than makes our job easy (I do
 try to keep an eye to the edits as they come through on the subscribed pages
 as well though but it doesn't hurt to double check and if there are a lot it
 takes a while to go through them all).



 Jonathan



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.04 released

2011-04-29 Thread matthew byers
Also folks please update the wiki page if you are offering a location to
download lubuntu iso from. My direct link on wiki will be updated as soon as
i get the chance to download new release and upload. Lets keep these
torrents rolling as well!!! Lubuntu FTW!!!

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Shabab Mustafa
shabab.must...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have already downloaded Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop. Is there any zsync file
 available? It could save lot of my Bandwidth. :(
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 On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote:

 Hi,

 great work the new release!

 I put it on the site as well.

 Actually the lubuntu.net is not down, there are just masses of hits
 making it extremely slow or unavailable for some people.

 - Mario



 On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 29 April 2011 05:05, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Lubuntu 11.04 is now available :
 
   * Torrent :http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-11.04.iso.torrent
   * Direct download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-11.04.iso
   * Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
 
 
  The torrents are ripping along if anyone is curious - heaps of people
  seeding, heaps of people downloading - GOOD WORK!
 
  *snip*
 
  == Links ==
 
   * Website : http://lubuntu.net/
 
  Please, if someone can look into lubuntu.net being down that would be
  appreciated. It was just reported on the IRC channel and I have
 confirmed,
  it's not working.
 
 
   * Documentation : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
 
  Are we at the stage of being able to change this to
  help.u.c/community/Lubuntu soon?
 
   * LXDE website : http://lxde.org/
   * Announcement:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/NattyNarwhal
 
 
  Regards,
  Julien Lavergne
 
 
  A big thank you to everyone involved in this, there are so many people
  making Lubuntu the great distribution is is today and as a regular
 Lubuntu
  user I really appreciate everyone's efforts.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 3 released

2011-03-11 Thread matthew byers
Does that space issue only pertain to your account? Im asking because i have
nothing in my allocated space for my ubuntu.com space so i would be more
than happy to host iso from there if possible!

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le vendredi 04 mars 2011 à 18:39 +0100, Julien Lavergne a écrit :
  == Download ==
  Torrent:
  http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-natty-alpha3.iso.torrent
  Download: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-natty-alpha3.iso
  Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
 

 Due to usual space problem, the ISO was removed from the
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ server. Please use instead the torrent
 or phillw server : http://phillw.net/lubuntu-natty-alpha3.iso .

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 3 released

2011-03-11 Thread matthew byers
Sorry for the delay but i have uploaded the alpha iso (and md5sum) to here:
http://people.ubuntu.com/~stlsaint/
and it has been updated on the wiki (it is the second direct download link
posted on the wiki below philws link! Enjoy folks! :D

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 à 17:11 +0300, matthew byers a écrit :
  Does that space issue only pertain to your account? Im asking because
  i have nothing in my allocated space for my ubuntu.com space so i
  would be more than happy to host iso from there if possible!

 Only my account, because I host also the 10.10 ISO. So when I add
 another ISO, I reach my 1 Gb limitation :)
 I'll be glad if you can host the ISO :) Please add also the md5sum txt
 file for ISO checking, and a link to the ISO on the wiki.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC

2011-03-11 Thread matthew byers
@Andres, he is not trying to be a jerk or anything but as with any type of
development there is a process. Once a application has been determined for a
OS than work begins to ensure full compatibility and bug fixes. If you try
and change up apps in the middle of development than you must start this
entire process over with. If you would like to see another application for
future releases than you can bring it up *prior* to the development of that
OS release.

2011/3/12 Jorge Andrés winningl...@gmail.com

 On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:23:27 +
 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

  On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:19:25 +0100
  Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
 
   Just a quick note, I'll *NOT* discuss again and again about the music
   player. The choice was done for 11.04, and I don't attempt to change
   this choice for futur version. This is really a waste of time.
  
   We will be able to discuss this for the 11.10, during the usual
   schedule. Outside this, don't expect any answer from me, or any changes
   for the choice.

   I'll *NOT* discuss again ... I don't attempt

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dumb question...

2010-12-30 Thread matthew byers
In my understanding, no the iso is not updated. Once the OS is released than
it only gets updated once you install and update it yourself.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does the download image on Lubuntu.net get updated?

 I downloaded the 10.10 ISO I have back in October.  If I were to download
 10.10 image today would it be any different?

 Thanks,

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Panel bug

2010-12-28 Thread matthew byers
WARNING: If i am correct in the discovery of this bug it will make your
panel disappear and force you to hard kill your system (unless you have Hot
Keys setup to get to a terminal without panel!)

So i think i have found a bug and here are the steps to reproduce:
1. Right click on panel and select, Add/Remove Panel Items
2. Select the, Panel Applets tab
3. Click on the double window iconfiy icon in bottom left corner of screen
next to virtual desktops

Again i state if i am correct in this than your panel should disappear and
you will have to reboot system to get it back. I tried using Task Manager to
get panel back but was unsuccessful. I did this in a installed environment,
NOT in virtual box so i suggest maybe trying in virtual box if lubuntu is
your only OS installed on system.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu v. LXDE

2010-12-02 Thread matthew byers
1. The primary difference between ANY distro is the package selection and
desktop environment and yes that is where the primary difference between
lubuntu and ubuntu resides.
2. Yes you can install any environment( *box) you like.
3. I have never looked at the contents of the metapackage/core packages you
were asking about so i would assume you would have to dig further for that
information.

Lubuntu aims to use a tremendously less amount of resources while still
retaining stability and energy saving. So to say it is just package
differences is a bit underestimating the abilities of the distro.

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 First, I'm not asking to be antagonistic, just out of ignorance on the
 subject.

 So there's no other integration behind the scenes (daemons, etc.);
 it's just a selection of apps and a desktop background?

 Doesn't vanilla openbox have the right-click menu? I thought the start
 menu was an lxde-specific change, and there would be some way to get
 it back since lxde uses openbox.

 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Andrew Woodhead
 andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:
  LXDE is ONLY the desktop environment with a VERY small group of apps.
  LUbuntu is an OS with LXDE as well as some select apps chosen by the
 users,
  for the users.
  You can install fluxbox and selct it as your WM instead of openbox, this
  will ive you the right click menu you desire.
 
  On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Todd Schulman schulmaa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  1. Can someone explain simply what distinguishes Lubuntu from vanilla
  LXDE, and the following packages: lubuntu-desktop from lxde
 (metapackage)
  and lubuntu-core from lxde-core?
 
  2. Can it be configured to use right-click menus like fluxbox instead of
 a
  start menu?
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal

2010-11-11 Thread matthew byers
Zentyal is nothing more then the old all in one server ebox! (i used it
before) This is not related to the Lubuntu distro. There are many linux
respins that use lxde. Lubuntu is not (unless hidden from the public) in any
way tailored to or around zentyal nor interacts with its development!

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was wondering if there was any connection or communications between
 the Lubuntu team and that behind the Zentyal Ubuntu-based server
 distro, as its desktop too is based on LXDE. I'm not aware of any
 other Ubuntu remixes with LXDE.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal

2010-11-11 Thread matthew byers
Well when you ask if there are any connections or communications it makes
it seem as if your wondering if the two are connected. Better wording should
be used next time maybe! ;)
And look here for distros with lxde:
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Linux_Distributions
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Linux_Distributionsand just because a
distro uses a certain environment doesnt mean they need to have anything in
common. Im not sure where you would see how a desktop spin like lubuntu and
a server suite like zentyal have anything to do with each other? Maybe there
is something im missint out of what you are suggesting??

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 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Andrew Woodhead
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  A server OS with an X server, thats so not right

 Hey, neither is top-quoting, spelling that's without an apostrophe
 or ending a sentence without a full stop.

 Zentyal is not bad, actually. It doesn't need a GUI, but like Ubuntu,
 it's not optional - you get what they give you. And at least it's a
 low-resource GUI.

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