Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks
Hi, you can try making a bootable USB with Ubuntu mini-ISO, install a commandline system then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop. You can also try upgrading your existing 10.10 install. Regards! Mikhail On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:11 PM, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.comwrote: I used the startup tool in Ubuntu that gave the same results of the bug. On May 17, 2011 2:32 AM, Julien Lavergne julien.laver...@gmail.com wrote: Le 17 mai 2011 à 03:20, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com a écrit : Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With that being said, due to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997 I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if anybody has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10 until this is resolved. Yes it is for next cycle and you should use the ubuntu tool to generate the USB. It is usually better than unebootin. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks
Well, it's no rocket science, really ;) Give it a try, maybe you're going to enjoy it ;) Now lubuntu-desktop resides in the official repo so you no longer need the add-apt-repository magic... ;) On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:05 AM, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.comwrote: Well the mini iso idea as great a idea as it is, it proves to be a bit much for a user to simply want to install lubuntu! I just reinstalled 10.10 fresh so i may attempt to upgrade from there (maybe, i always was a fan of 10.10) On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, you can try making a bootable USB with Ubuntu mini-ISO, install a commandline system then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop. You can also try upgrading your existing 10.10 install. Regards! Mikhail On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:11 PM, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com wrote: I used the startup tool in Ubuntu that gave the same results of the bug. On May 17, 2011 2:32 AM, Julien Lavergne julien.laver...@gmail.com wrote: Le 17 mai 2011 à 03:20, matthew byers faintstlsa...@gmail.com a écrit : Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With that being said, due to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997 I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if anybody has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10 until this is resolved. Yes it is for next cycle and you should use the ubuntu tool to generate the USB. It is usually better than unebootin. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- God Bless ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
If I understand you correctly, Lubuntu 11.04 default install would (just!) fit on a 2GB (binary GB) disk. Correct. *And* the resulting install will likely be unusable due to the lack of free space. That's pretty lightweight; can you name any common desktop or laptop i386 PC architecture machines made in the the last ten years for general end user use (i.e. not embedded designs) that have less than 2GB of disk storage? I'm not sure is it common or not, but many early netbooks have ridiculously small drives. Some Asus EEE models have 2GB SSD. Hewlett Packard 6720t features just 1 GB SSD (I'm shocked!!!) On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: Earlier, I wrote: I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. to On 05/15/2011 12:44 AM, Mikhail Maksimov wrote: No it can not. Tests done on alpha3 show that the system requires at least 2000 MB (decimal M) just to install with almost no free space left. Too bad Lubuntu is no longer lightweight in terms of disk footprint. Thanks for taking the time to do the testing :) If I understand you correctly, Lubuntu 11.04 default install would (just!) fit on a 2GB (binary GB) disk. That's pretty lightweight; can you name any common desktop or laptop i386 PC architecture machines made in the the last ten years for general end user use (i.e. not embedded designs) that have less than 2GB of disk storage? Setting the limit down from 5.3GB to 2.7GB seems to have helped everyone I know of who has come across this issue (most seem to have 3GB or 4GB disk space available). Is there really a sizeable community of Lubuntu users with total disk space between 1.8GB and 2.0GB that we need to try to help out? If so, who are they -- can they please identify themselves? Thanks, Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
Hi, list. *I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet.* No it can not. Tests done on alpha3 show that the system requires at least 2000 MB (decimal M) just to install with almost no free space left. Too bad Lubuntu is no longer lightweight in terms of disk footprint. Regards, Mikhail PS I know that the original letter is two weeks old :) On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: My workaround works! Replying to myself: On 05/01/2011 12:29 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: There is a file within the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO called casper/filesystem.size but it seems to be unchanged since 2010-09-06 and I don't yet know what if anything actually uses it :) Based on Julien's very handy pointer to the commit that broke this for us, I just edited the file casper/filesystem.size in the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO image to say 137000 (a round-ish number about half the value that was previously in the file, plus 50MB as a safety margin!) and then updated the md5sum.txt file to reflect that edit, and created myself a modified ISO image from the result. That's a pretty trivial change, but, unlike the official 11.04 image, it installs and runs fine in a 3GB virtual disk, at least in my initial testing here (under VirtualBox 4.0.6). So, we seem to have a code-free workaround :) I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. I can make this hacked ISO available for download, but it is a bit 'dubious' at this point from a support point of view, since it does not 'say' anywhere in its menus etc. that I modified it! I need it to refer to itself as 11.04.jm1 or something, so it is clearly not the official Lubuntu 11.04 version, if there is going to be much use of it. If anyone has an urgent need for this ISO image, let me know. It is now 1am here, and I have to go to work tomorrow (today!!) so I don't have time to create the .jm1 identified image right now... I need some sleep :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
er... someone blamed documentation of some sort... ah, here it is: *One area where Lubuntu has gained weight is the help documentation for Gnumeric and Sylpheed, as well as the Gnome language packs.* quoted from the lubuntu-desktop list archive, March, 20, 2011. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:39 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: So who is eating the spaces? Many some disk-analyzing tools are needed here. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, list. I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. No it can not. Tests done on alpha3 show that the system requires at least 2000 MB (decimal M) just to install with almost no free space left. Too bad Lubuntu is no longer lightweight in terms of disk footprint. Regards, Mikhail PS I know that the original letter is two weeks old :) On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: My workaround works! Replying to myself: On 05/01/2011 12:29 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: There is a file within the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO called casper/filesystem.size but it seems to be unchanged since 2010-09-06 and I don't yet know what if anything actually uses it :) Based on Julien's very handy pointer to the commit that broke this for us, I just edited the file casper/filesystem.size in the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO image to say 137000 (a round-ish number about half the value that was previously in the file, plus 50MB as a safety margin!) and then updated the md5sum.txt file to reflect that edit, and created myself a modified ISO image from the result. That's a pretty trivial change, but, unlike the official 11.04 image, it installs and runs fine in a 3GB virtual disk, at least in my initial testing here (under VirtualBox 4.0.6). So, we seem to have a code-free workaround :) I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. I can make this hacked ISO available for download, but it is a bit 'dubious' at this point from a support point of view, since it does not 'say' anywhere in its menus etc. that I modified it! I need it to refer to itself as 11.04.jm1 or something, so it is clearly not the official Lubuntu 11.04 version, if there is going to be much use of it. If anyone has an urgent need for this ISO image, let me know. It is now 1am here, and I have to go to work tomorrow (today!!) so I don't have time to create the .jm1 identified image right now... I need some sleep :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major must fix before Beta issues left in Lubuntu?
+1 for handling alternate CD as a main distribution, with an option to switch to LiveCD+Ubiquity for those who install Lubuntu on more resource-rich configurations. Regards, Mikhail 2011/3/31 Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré winningl...@gmail.com +1 alternate CD It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is 192MB, but with 256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very old computer. My suggestion it´s to share a text install (alternate CD) by default. Anyway now Lubuntu isn't for beginners Linux user, so with a text install no body will be complicated. (My experience: the first Linux distro that i install [Ubuntu 7.04], i installed with the alternate CD, with my 256MB of ram memory [and Pentium 4 celeron] was impossible to install with GUI. Even if was my first install i could do it without a problem. The installations it´s intuitive. Sorry for my English. 2011/3/30 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com Text based installer + 1. The alternate CD with console-based UI is good enough IMO if it can have l10n user interface. Windows installer has long been text-based since windows 3.1 and it's still text-based in windows xp. Nobody complains of this so why should we insist that there should be a graphical one? Yes, if you boot from Windows xp installer cd on a machine without OS, you'll enter text-based installer. The GUI part is only available after the basic system is set up. Actually, we can do the same. The text-based installer (part I) only installs base system and core components and then reboot and automatically login X11 with a super user. After boot, a GUI-based installer (part II) is launched and continues the remaining parts. This can make things much easier. The only problem with this approach is, we cannot have a good GUI-based UI for partitioning. Windows XP handle this in text-mode, too. However, I see no real problem here. The rationale is quite simple. Users who doesn't know how to use text-based UI are also the ones that will almost always choose automatic partitioning. Others who like to use customized and manual partitioning are definitely advanced power users who don't need a GUI installer. So don't put 80% of development resources to do what only 20% people need. Please, if someone know how to work with the text-based debian installer, consider this approach. Let's set up a base system with the text-based one, and continue the remainng parts in a GUI installer after rebooting into X11. This is also what Windows does. Comments? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory footprint of the installer for 11.04. The other question this poses is, is it really necessary to have a graphical installer as the default for Lubuntu? Some time ago, there was a question on the mailing list What do you expect from Lubuntu and i think that a very important point is it will go where Ubuntu can't or something like that. A graphical installer is something that we do only one time (in theory) so if it's a little ugly (text) IMHO i don't see the problem. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Boot problems with Natty Alpha ISOs
Hello everyone. Natty Alpha3 boots normally on the box in question, so I guess the problem was caused by some unidentified minor flaw in the build process for alphas 12, silently corrected by the new automated build process for alpha-20110228 and alpha3. Aftermath: - the CD with all the four alphas (1, 2, 3 and 20110228) are perfectly readable on both my main machine (the one where the discs were burned) and test box. dd if=/dev/cdrom.|md5sum results are as expected *on both systems*. - the main machine boots normally from all the four CDs - the test box rejects alphas 12 (BIOS does not recognize them as bootable) but boots normally from the other two alphas. Thank you all for help. Sincerely, Mikhail Maksimov On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all. I've got a Pentium-IV box to test Lubuntu on. However, I cannot boot it from alpha1 or 2 liveCDs. The discs are being rejected by BIOS reporting NON-SYSTEM DISC PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISC AND PRESS ENTER. However, Lubuntu 10.10 and Natty alpha-20110228 liveCDs both boot normally. I've installed 10.10 to the machine, then checked, double-checked and re-checked again the two alphas that do not boot. Both unbootable CDs are perfectly readable and the checksums are correct (once again, I'm checking it on the system that refuses to boot from them), so I assume it is not a hardware (cd-rom drive vs. cd-rom disc) issue. The BIOS is proven to be capable of booting from cd. I'm willing to do further testing but cannot think of anything to check. Any suggestions? Regards! Mikhail Maksimov ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Boot problems with Natty Alpha ISOs
Hi, all. I've got a Pentium-IV box to test Lubuntu on. However, I cannot boot it from alpha1 or 2 liveCDs. The discs are being rejected by BIOS reporting NON-SYSTEM DISC PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISC AND PRESS ENTER. However, Lubuntu 10.10 and Natty alpha-20110228 liveCDs both boot normally. I've installed 10.10 to the machine, then checked, double-checked and re-checked again the two alphas that do not boot. Both unbootable CDs are perfectly readable and the checksums are correct (once again, I'm checking it on the system that refuses to boot from them), so I assume it is not a hardware (cd-rom drive vs. cd-rom disc) issue. The BIOS is proven to be capable of booting from cd. I'm willing to do further testing but cannot think of anything to check. Any suggestions? Regards! Mikhail Maksimov ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install.
Dropbox link with md5 checksum is now available, maybe it was some kind of short outage. The checksum is correct. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hiyas gang, can some confirm the md5 is 1932a563c99ae40721d1f37c3804c372 for alternate disk, as the md5 checksum link reports a 404 error. head_injury has the documentation done over at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/AlternateInstall Again, any input on this would be welcome. Once I have couple of confirmations that things are okay, I'll release the little bugga into the world :D thanks, Phill. On 22 October 2010 23:13, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:18:58 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Cheers, As you know I'm severely hampered by the fact that only a basic 9.10 ubuntu can 'see' my 3G device, as the pub is moving company I cannot yet order my broadband connection. It's very frustrating, but life goes on. If you can scribble up a set of notes similar to what I put over at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall I'll tidy them all up and get it all posted and documented. Boot from disk, follow instructions :D -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A small suggestion: Gparted
Hi, list. +1 for adding Gparted to the LiveCD. Without it, LiveCD is pretty useless when you need to rearrange your disk prior to installing. BTW, on a minimal box with just 128 Mb RAM gparted failed to start off SystemRescueCD 1.6.1, maybe Lubuntu can perform better on such boxes. Regards! Mikhail On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: I have come back to looking at Lubuntu recently after a while away. I put 10.04 LTS on a client's old workstation (P4, 256MB RAM, 40G hard disk) and today 10.10 on my own laptop (PIII-750, 320MB, 20GB HD). Both times, I've had the same problem, but it was more severe with 10.10. I wanted to dual-boot the machines - the P4 with XP and the P3 notebook with Crunchbang. This means repartitioning, which means I need Gparted (or something like it). On 10.04, I was able to open a terminal, apt-get install gparted, then run it, repartition, and install. On 10.10, though, once I had installed Gparted, it filled up the system's RAMdisk and crashed the desktop. No panel, no window manager, nothing, just the desktop and Ubiquity icon. I rebooted and tried again. This time I could run Gparted and make a new root filesystem, but then I couldn't run Ubiquity. No error was produced. I looked at the properties of the icon to see the command but it does not show this rather critical info. I opened a terminal, took a guess and changed to /home/lubuntu/Desktop and examined the file with less. This gave me the basic command to run. Not knowing what the switches and parameters mean, I just tried ubiquity. It failed, segfaulted, with an error that there was no space on root. I rebooted, ran it again from the desktop, and then was able to install. I rebooted again, manually tweaked my /etc/default/grub file for the kernel parms I need (the machine will not boot without acpi=force and the screen looks very poor without vga=791, which also gets the graphical boot screen working, which does not happen otherwise - I get a text one that says Ubuntu not Lubuntu). Update-manager ran and I accepted the default offerings. Installation failed over a clashing library. I had to run apt-get install -f ... then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade -y ... to resolve this. So finally I have a working system, but install was a bit fraught! The simplest improvement would be to bundle Gparted on the live CD. There's plenty of room - 150MB spare on the disk and Gparted + dependencies is under a tenth of that, I think - and that's uncompressed. The other issues, well, I have no direct suggestions, I was merely reporting them. It is a little bigger and slower than Crunchbang but then Crunchbang is only Ubuntu 9.04. OTOH, Lubuntu has a full and rather attractive desktop, whereas #! is deliberately super-minimal. -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] Lubuntu 10.10 released
Well, you don't have to remove the (Gnome) desktop, there's an option to just not install it. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall for details. I believe that if you use Ubuntu alternate CD instead of mini.iso there's still an option to install a minimal system. One difference (not so big IMHO) between Lubuntu CD install and minimal install is eth0 not being nm-managed after a minimal install. Maybe there is something else, not sure. Regards! Mikhail On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be very nice if there were a 64-bit version of this soon instead of using the method of installing first ubuntu and then removing the desktop and installing lubuntu-desktop. Does this give us exactly the same solution as installing (32-bit) lubuntu with the exception, of course, of the fact that it is 64-bit? Best, T --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: From: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Subject: [Lxde-list] Lubuntu 10.10 released To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net, lxde-list lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 12:14 PM Lubuntu 10.10 is now available : * Torrent : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso.torrent * Direct download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso * Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt == What is Lubuntu ? == Lubuntu is an Ubuntu derivated using the LXDE desktop. It's designed to be a lightweight and easy-to-use desktop environment. Lubuntu is actually not part of the Ubuntu family, and not build with the current Ubuntu infrastructure. This release is considered as a « stable beta », a result that could be a final and stable release if we was included in the Ubuntu family. == Features == * Based on the lightweight LXDE desktop environment. * Pcmanfm 0.9.7, a fast and lightweight files manager using gio/gvfs. * Lxdm, a lightweight GTK display manager. * Chromium, the open-source version of Google Chrome. * ... and, of course, based on Ubuntu 10.10 See the complete list of applications on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications == Improvements since Lubuntu 10.04 == === Applications by default === Programs installed by default have been updated * Added : Update-notifier, to get notification for available updates. Xpad, to create quick notes (similar to Tomboy). Ace-of-penguins, to provide some games * Removed Parcellite, which is not maintained upstream, is less useful since most of copy/paste bugs was gone with pcmanfm 0.9.X Pyneighborhood was replaced by gvfs support of pcmanfm. * Changes LXtask replace Xfce4-taskmanager for tasks monitoring. Evince is now used for reading PDF, ePDFview have some serious memory leaks. === New theme === A new and fresh theme, made by Rafael Laguna, is available. === Installer slideshow === New slideshow is available during the installation, to describe Lubuntu and its features. === Indicators supports === Lxpanel now support Ubuntu indicators applets. This feature is turn off by default, but you can activate it by adding the Indicators applet”. === New extras packages === * A new meta-package (lubuntu-core) is available to install only core packages of Lubuntu. * A new meta-package (lubuntu-restricted-extras) is available to install restricted packages for Lubuntu (such as flash, java and extra codecs for chromium) === LXDE updates === * LXDE is now HAL-free. Lubuntu still depends on HAL for CD-burner, but by removing it, you can obtain a HAL-free system. * New lxappareance from LXDE git (without Openbox integration) And the usual updates of LXDE and Ubuntu packages included in Lubuntu. == Releases notes and known issues == The release notes, with a list of known problems are available on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat == Specific Lubuntu changes == Lubuntu still contains modifications not available in the official repository, you can see them in the Lubuntu PPA [1] : * Autologin support in ubiquity (LP: #546445) * Support Install only mode in ubiquity * Support for lubuntu-restricted package in ubiquity == Reporting bugs == You can find information on how to report bug on this wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs == Thanks == I would like to thanks all people involved in the development of Lubuntu during this past 6 months : Thanks to the LXDE team for providing this fast and nice desktop environment. Thanks to Rafael for his wonderful work on this new artwork. Thanks to Mario for his wonderful work on the website, the wiki and all the advertising. Thanks to all testers which help in the testing process, making Lubuntu
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] marketing
You got my idea, I was talking about buying a distro's CD with a nice (thanks Rafael!) image printed on it, wrapped into a nice (thanks Rafael!) envelope, just for collection. However, not sure if items shipped by that site have all the artwork or just Lubuntu logo. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Rafael Laguna rafaellag...@gmail.comwrote: Well, there's a site that sells everything, about Linux. And our dear Lubuntu is sold tthere for £3.99 (UK pounds). They just burn the ISO and put inti a paper case with the logo, distro name and other few characteristics. Have a lookhttp://www.thelinuxshop.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21products_id=280 . Maybe I don't really understand what you mean, but anyway I think we cannot sell it, and we must no do it, we're under GPL license. That's why we serve it free (both the ISO and the wallet). -- http://www.lubuntu.net a1.pnga3.pnga2.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] marketing
Will it be possible to buy a hard copy of the final ISO wrapped into a hard copy of this wallet image? On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Rafael Laguna rafaellag...@gmail.comwrote: Ok, thank you. If no one has more to say, we have wallet! [image: :D] -- http://lubuntublog.blogspot.comhttp://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Finding Lubuntu-related information
Hi, list. I always have trouble finding some vital information regarding Lubuntu. Maybe it's just me, but it takes definitely more than a couple of mouseclicks to find out, e.g., the status of latest testing iso, its version, release date, download location, etc. Also, I've seen a link to IRC logs somewhere, but cannot find it again, and googling for lubuntu irc log does not show the required item on the first page, you really have to know that there's one site for publishing logs for all ubuntu-related channels, and search for _ubuntu_ irc logs, then navigate to the selected date and channel manually... IMHO such small navigation problems may cause newcomers to not actively join the team. It may even happen that a would-be tester not do any actual good just because he/she does not find the latest beta! I've just updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing with minimal info regarding beta2, however I believe it can be further elaborated. And probably beta1-related part should be removed. Huh, and probably the news section of lubuntu.netcan also be updated with beta2 info. I'm not really good at writing human-readable texts, and I just don't have any more time at the moment. Is anyone willing to add more updates to lubuntu sites? Regards! Mikhail PS Are the command to md5sum the CD and the checksum on h ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testinghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing correct for beta2? Please double-check. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] 10.10 beta installer memory requirements
Hi, all. I was testing the 10.10 betas on a low-spec machine and found that, for both versions, with 256 Mb RAM the Live CD session starts normally, but launching the installer kills the system in a creative way: everything disappears except the wallpaper and mouse pointer (I mean, menu, installer icon, lxtask that I started earlier), however Ctrl+Alt+F(n) works and from a text console ps ax | grep ubiq shows nothing, the installer process is gone. lxtask says I have 243 MB of RAM installed, top says I've got 249844k total memory. AFAIK swap partitions get used silently by Live CD if present, so I cleared the partition table before running tests. Adding another 128 Mb stick to the box solves the problem, so I believe it really is the RAM amount that matters. Unfortunately all my 32 and 64 Mb sticks fail so I cannot be any more precise. Thus the current beta does not seem to be installable with not less than 160 Mb as stated in the wiki. I'm wondering if it's permanent, or just the beta effect which may get fixed when and if the install menu item works, not just the try one. If anyone can confirm or correct my findings it is good to have it all documented in the wiki. Sincerely, Mikhail Maksimov ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] kidnapping
Hi, list. Personally, I always think a well-structured and comprehensive text document is ways better than a bright set of icons linked somewhere. IMHO the front page of Lubuntu wiki looks good enough and we should focus on the text content of the documentation, not with bells and whistles, uhm, icons. Just my two cents. Regards! Mikhail PS The icons of Uruguay Team page do consume the valuable _height_ of my widescreen laptop, about twice as much as Lubuntu wiki navigation. Anyway, 1366x768 is not convenient for me :( On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi team, the more I learn about documentation the more I realise how much I do not know, Take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UruguayTeam Now, that is one seriously good looking front page. I'm wondering if our art team could design some icons / have an idea in their head for how the front page should look (It's done by inkscape, evidently). I can ask Zach team to help me with the coding. What do you all think? Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] NetworkManager bug in Lubuntu?
Update: both Ubuntu and Lubuntu installed from their respective 10.04 CDs do not have any eth0-related entries in /etc/network/interfaces. Lubuntu installed from 10.04 mini iso does have the usual: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp which causes NetworkManager to not manage eth0 by default. Looks like we need to update the instructions... Regards! Mikhail On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Phill, the wired connection works properly on all of my systems, both before and after lubuntu-desktop installation. It just does not become managed by NetworkManager. Regards! Mikhail On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, that certainly leaves me a bit puzzled, as the mini-iso requires a wired connection for it to work !! I'll set up a new partition and try it again (I'm the author of instructions you're referring to). You are the first person to say that you are having a problem when using them. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Yorvyk, for me the problem reproduces on all three Lubuntu installations I have at hand: an old P4-based desktop system and two notebooks, ThinkPad X61 and Lenovo G450. As Julien noticed, this is a known misbehavior of NetworkManager, documented on the Debian wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager, under Wired Networks are Unmanaged). There's also a bug in Debian tracker, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024. Were those many installs of yours done via Lubuntu CD, or via minimal installation (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall)? If the problem occurs only when doing minimal install, we have to update the instructions. Regards! Mikhail On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 19:31:05 +0400 Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, list. Lubuntu Lucid installed from mini.iso seems to be affected by a bug in NetworkManager (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024): the wired network interface is not managed by NetworkManager by default. Does anyone know if this also happens when installing from Lubuntu CD? Never seen a problem with the many installs I’ve done using Lubuntu Lucid. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] NetworkManager bug in Lubuntu?
Yorvik, that 'solution' does not fix the default behavior of NM to not manage interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces. I think it may enable the whole NM management system when and if it is somehow turned off (screwed up?) but this is not the original case. Regards! Mikhail On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:24:23 +0400 Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Update: both Ubuntu and Lubuntu installed from their respective 10.04 CDs do not have any eth0-related entries in /etc/network/interfaces. Lubuntu installed from 10.04 mini iso does have the usual: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp which causes NetworkManager to not manage eth0 by default. Looks like we need to update the instructions... Regards! Mikhail This 'solution' just popped up on my RSS feed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-network-manager-disabled-problem-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid.html -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] NetworkManager bug in Lubuntu?
Yorvyk, for me the problem reproduces on all three Lubuntu installations I have at hand: an old P4-based desktop system and two notebooks, ThinkPad X61 and Lenovo G450. As Julien noticed, this is a known misbehavior of NetworkManager, documented on the Debian wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager, under Wired Networks are Unmanaged). There's also a bug in Debian tracker, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024. Were those many installs of yours done via Lubuntu CD, or via minimal installation (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall)? If the problem occurs only when doing minimal install, we have to update the instructions. Regards! Mikhail On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 19:31:05 +0400 Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, list. Lubuntu Lucid installed from mini.iso seems to be affected by a bug in NetworkManager (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024): the wired network interface is not managed by NetworkManager by default. Does anyone know if this also happens when installing from Lubuntu CD? Never seen a problem with the many installs I’ve done using Lubuntu Lucid. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] How can I lock screen in Lubuntu?
Hi, list. When playing with Lubuntu (Lucid, installed from 10.04 mini.iso, if that matters) I've noticed that it is... er... less paranoid than mainstream Ubuntu. I mean, there's no (obvious) way to lock the desktop, and when resuming from suspend, the system does not ask for password. Am I just missing some well-hidden checkbox? Or maybe lubuntu is so lightweight that one needs an extra package or two for screen-locking to work? Anyway, how can I get desktop locking in Lubuntu? Regards! Mikhail ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] NetworkManager bug in Lubuntu?
Hi, list. Lubuntu Lucid installed from mini.iso seems to be affected by a bug in NetworkManager (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530024): the wired network interface is not managed by NetworkManager by default. Does anyone know if this also happens when installing from Lubuntu CD? Regards! Mikhail ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How can I lock screen in Lubuntu?
Thanks, 'xscreensaver-command -lock' works just fine for deliberately locking the screen. Is there an easy way to get the screen locked in suspend-resume sequence? Regards! Mikhail On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Duy Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! You can create a new blank file on your desktop, open it with leafpad and insert these lines: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Lock Screen Comment=Locks your screen Icon=system-lock-screen Exec=xscreensaver-command -lock Terminal=false Type=Application When you want to lock your screen you can click on this file. And you can go to Preferences, open Screensaver then you can set your screensaver settings include screen locking. Hope this could help you :). On 1 August 2010 21:40, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, list. When playing with Lubuntu (Lucid, installed from 10.04 mini.iso, if that matters) I've noticed that it is... er... less paranoid than mainstream Ubuntu. I mean, there's no (obvious) way to lock the desktop, and when resuming from suspend, the system does not ask for password. Am I just missing some well-hidden checkbox? Or maybe lubuntu is so lightweight that one needs an extra package or two for screen-locking to work? Anyway, how can I get desktop locking in Lubuntu? Regards! Mikhail ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] wiki page
Hi Phillip, hi list IMHO, Just get on with it ;-) Regards! Mikhail On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Julien, I apologise for the multiple messages coming from my editing the wiki area. I've got a couple of wiki people helping me with links etc. As they are not trivial edits, I feel uneasy to use that tag. Hi Gang, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp I'd like to do a make-over of that area. What is proposed is: 'Documentation and Help' becomes 'Help' 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseManagementDiscussion' is removed, as it is out of date. 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Applications and other Features' is moved to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved i also propose that details of 10.10 is moved to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers with the details of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Test Lubuntu being moved over there, leaving just a 'stub'. With the help of the wiki team, I've done some editing for things like the inclusion of code to be typed into a terminal session. Just so as everyone knows, I'm part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki/SoD2010 so, our own wiki area is a good one for me to get help on. As it is the aim of lubuntu to be adopted by Canonical, as per my previous posting I'd like to ensure we comply with their documentation standards. I'd appreciate any input as to what you'd like to see on there along with proof reading to ensure any spelling mistakes etc. are corrected. All those on the mailing list who have their launchpad accouts can log in and edit the pages. As always, your input is needed. Well, that's my and the wiki teams ideas, please shout up anything that you think are wrong, I will take deafening silence to mean Just get on with it :-) Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and openjava-jre
Hi, Daniel. I've experienced that dreadful no sound and no errors issue with at least two different lubuntu installations (an old P4-based system and a powerful x-series Thinkpad). Try starting alsamixer and un-muting some channels using M key. You might want to install graphical mixer control, but the commandline alsamixer is just fine if all you want is un-mute the soundcard. Regards, Mikhail On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Daniel Hallett dhallett2...@gmail.com wrote: Is there going to be flash in chrome on lubuntu? If not how do I get openjava-jdk-jre working properly on lubuntu? How do I get the sound on lubuntu working properly? I'm using lubuntu 10.04 on zareason terra a20 with 2 gigs ram. 160 gig HDD. Is there a better player that I can use to sync my iPod touch 2G? I used to use amerok on kubuntu before I started to use lubuntu. Keep chromium for the web browser for lubuntu. And better .deb installation support and o can't even force install opera browser. Sent from my iPod Daniel Hallett ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Tested on MSI Wind U100
Hello. Just one thing I wanted to note: server GUI is a bad idea. If you want server, you install server, if you want a workstation on low-grade hardware, you install Lubuntu. If you have low-grade hardware to use as a server, you definitely shouldn't be wasting the precious (and, oh, so limited!) RAM and CPU resources on GUI instead of serving something. If someone wants to have lubuntu desktop on server, there's always an option of installing server then adding any desktop environment, or maybe installing Lubuntu then switching to the server kernel. But I think all the possible mix options should not be part of Lubuntu installer, nor should there be a separate server+LXDE remix of Lubuntu (Ubuntu?) Regards! Mikhail PS If you don't like vi, you can use nano, it's part of the server install and it is WYSIWIG. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Josef A. Beroeatwarin rajatanpacel...@gmail.com wrote: Hai everybody Hai I tested Lubuntu on my MSI wind U100, I am not a pro like you guys but I like to have my hands on it because I really believe lubuntu will be much better the Xubuntu. And of course I WANT to have a very lightweight linux on my netbook and PC. I am running on Ubuntu 9.10 remix installed on my MSI Wind U100, after I while I started with Apt to install LXDE After running on LXDE I was satisfied and very optimistic that it will be one that I am looking for.( after a lot of switching for linux to linux) Here are the problems on the MSI wind U100: * Filemanager Pcman 0.5.1 on the left windows are drives displayed twice. if you click one of the with the same name you will get an error-message Directory doesnt exist * Wicd it a very nice looking piece but to bad, to while connection the the wirelles network (WEP) ofcourse it was validated but I got an error message Connection failed:Unable get IP Adress that was during the status Obtaining IP address. * I have no sound I realize I have no mixer something like that so I dont know if its muting or not. * FN keys. FN+F4 and FN+F5 is working very well,its for dimming the back-light and FN+F12 sleep mode is working but after wakeup its starting to sleep again and again after wakeup *My bluetooth is witched on with FN+F11 but no blue-tooth detected (sorry I forgot to listed with lsusb before installing ubuntu remix again) * Harddisk external and flashdisk is working very well. My Questions,request,Ideas,what I hope very soon or whatever it is. 1. The Lubuntu in alpha stage on iso,when. Ofcourse everybody is busy. 2. Lubuntu on flash disk image because there is alot of netbooks without CD or DVD. 3. Sometimes I got netbook that has an SDcard as HDA is it compatible with it ? 4. I think Lubuntu will be great for creating server from old PC's with GUI interface instead having console at from your nose and doing that Vi thing.Maybe is there somebody can make a server edition. While installing you can choose what of kind of server do you want to install. 5. And nice front-end for backup that can make image of the drives. 6. Do you guys think that thunderbird and firefox take of computer sources especially nower days there is allot of websites based on flash like farmville it make even windows xp slow. 7. What is the other syntax like dmesg and lsusb that I can use to get info out of my toys and to send to you guys. 8. Last thing that I want to say is.. I am sorry for starting asking allot of questions even the alpha is not out yet... Well guys thats it... I hope its enough for the input. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
