Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section

2011-12-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On 12/06/2011 12:52 AM, Amber Graner wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
 On 12/06/2011 12:28 AM, Amber Graner wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com 
 wrote:
 None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative).  These are other
 distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project.  I think it's
 much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and
 Ubuntu Server.

 I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word
 is derivative correct.

 Scott why bring this up to the UWN folks who are trying their hardest
 to bring the news to folks, why not bring it up to the release manager or 
 others
 to change this.  Chris, who is new to the news team, wanted to add a
 section to cover these distributions, and establish a relationship as
 well as let you all know what we (the news were doing).
 Responses like this, to someone who doesn't make those decisions don't
 help with encouragement, inclusion and good will.  It's like you
 are beating up the messenger.

 We on the news team are trying our best to bring coverage about as
 many of the flavors, derivatives, siblings or whatever you want to
 call them.  We were asking for your help and instead you complain
 about the word.  Seriously?

 Because I find the term offensive.

 I bring it up whenever I see it used.  I even said that I recognized he
 was only using a term others use.

 Why should I not bring it up?
 
 
 You're right you have the right to your opinion; however, its the tone
 of your email (just like this one) that comes across has hostile and
 confrontational. I apologize if misunderstood.

 It's not meant as an attack on anyone, but to express an opinion.  If
 you're going to add a section as a part of showing appreciation, but
 name it something that bothers someone, isn't that useful to know?
 
 Yes, but we don't make the names up, as you know.  So there is no
 sense hashing that out here. :-)   However, because you brought it up
 I will forward your issues onto Kate Stewart.
 Thanks for bringing to our attention.

I am hostile to the term as applied to Ubuntu flavors developed within
the Ubuntu project.  I'm not hostile to any of the people involved in
the discussion.  I'm sorry I communicated it in a way that felt hostile
to people.

Scott K


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section

2011-12-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative).  These are other
distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project.  I think it's
much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and
Ubuntu Server.

I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word
is derivative correct.

Scott K

On 12/05/2011 09:35 PM, Chris wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'd like to take this opportunity to tell everyone about the new section on
 the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter. It's a section devoted to the development of
 the official derivatives of Ubuntu. For this we'd like to receive every
 week that you have a meeting, a link to the summary of the meeting. This is
 all to more acknowledgement of the hard work everyone in the derivatives
 branches are doing.
 If there are any questions, please ask them here or on #ubuntu-news.
 akgraner and me (MrChrisDruif) should be around to answer your questions.
 
 With metta, Chris
 
 
 
 


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section

2011-12-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On 12/06/2011 12:28 AM, Amber Graner wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
 None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative).  These are other
 distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project.  I think it's
 much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and
 Ubuntu Server.

 I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word
 is derivative correct.
 
 Scott why bring this up to the UWN folks who are trying their hardest
 to bring the news to folks, why not bring it up to the release manager or 
 others
 to change this.  Chris, who is new to the news team, wanted to add a
 section to cover these distributions, and establish a relationship as
 well as let you all know what we (the news were doing).
 Responses like this, to someone who doesn't make those decisions don't
 help with encouragement, inclusion and good will.  It's like you
 are beating up the messenger.
 
 We on the news team are trying our best to bring coverage about as
 many of the flavors, derivatives, siblings or whatever you want to
 call them.  We were asking for your help and instead you complain
 about the word.  Seriously?

Because I find the term offensive.

I bring it up whenever I see it used.  I even said that I recognized he
was only using a term others use.

Why should I not bring it up?

It's not meant as an attack on anyone, but to express an opinion.  If
you're going to add a section as a part of showing appreciation, but
name it something that bothers someone, isn't that useful to know?

Scott K


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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
Through New as well and in the archive.

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513
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Status in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in “pam” package in Debian: Invalid

Bug description:
I have a preliminary seed and meta for this related to Karmic blueprint 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop 
and this should get uploaded to revu later today.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
I don't see it as a blocker.

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513
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Bug description:
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https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop 
and this should get uploaded to revu later today.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
In principle adding a metapackage is not a big deal.  Do you expect ISO
images for lubuntu to be built on Launchpad?  Do you have a governance
process for deciding what should be in the package?

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https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop 
and this should get uploaded to revu later today.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 420513] Re: [needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta

2009-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
Additionally, the seeds are currently controlled by an open team with
118 members.  I do not see this as a recipe for success.

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[needs packaging] lubuntu desktop meta
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420513
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https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop 
and this should get uploaded to revu later today.

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