Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)

2011-05-15 Thread UndiFineD
As discussed at uds, put only fital documentation on disc that gets
people online so they can read it on help.ubuntu.com.


2011/5/15 Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com:
 er... someone blamed documentation of some sort...  ah, here it is:

 One area where Lubuntu has gained weight is the help documentation for
 Gnumeric and Sylpheed, as well as the Gnome language packs.

 quoted from the lubuntu-desktop list archive, March, 20, 2011.
 On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:39 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:

 So who is eating the spaces?
 Many some disk-analyzing tools are needed here.

 On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi, list.
 
  I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB
  size
  check, but I have not tested that yet.
 
  No it can not. Tests done on alpha3 show that the system requires at
  least
  2000 MB (decimal M) just to install with almost no free space left.
  Too
  bad Lubuntu is no longer lightweight in terms of disk footprint.
 
  Regards,
  Mikhail
 
  PS I know that the original letter is two weeks old :)
 
  On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm
  wrote:
 
  My workaround works!
 
  Replying to myself:
 
  On 05/01/2011 12:29 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
 
   There is a file within the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO called
   casper/filesystem.size but it seems to be unchanged since 2010-09-06
   and
   I don't yet know what if anything actually uses it :)
 
  Based on Julien's very handy pointer to the commit that broke this for
  us, I just edited the file casper/filesystem.size in the Lubuntu 11.04
  ISO image to say
 
  137000
 
  (a round-ish number about half the value that was previously in the
  file, plus 50MB as a safety margin!) and then updated the md5sum.txt
  file to reflect that edit, and created myself a modified ISO image from
  the result.
 
  That's a pretty trivial change, but, unlike the official 11.04 image,
  it
  installs and runs fine in a 3GB virtual disk, at least in my initial
  testing here (under VirtualBox 4.0.6).
 
  So, we seem to have a code-free workaround :)  I suspect the number
  could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have
  not tested that yet.
 
  I can make this hacked ISO available for download, but it is a bit
  'dubious' at this point from a support point of view, since it does not
  'say' anywhere in its menus etc. that I modified it!  I need it to
  refer
  to itself as 11.04.jm1 or something, so it is clearly not the official
  Lubuntu 11.04 version, if there is going to be much use of it.
 
  If anyone has an urgent need for this ISO image, let me know.  It is
  now
  1am here, and I have to go to work tomorrow (today!!) so I don't have
  time to create the .jm1 identified image right now... I need some
  sleep
  :)
 
  Jonathan
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files

2011-05-13 Thread UndiFineD
Always good to have a backup.
If Lubuntu becomes official soon popularity might increase.


2011/5/14 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com:
 Hi,

 I know you had a great UDS, with the kind availabilty of the new area for
 hosting iso's on, what do wish me to do?

 As torrent is always preferred, I need to update the wiki areas (especially
 for the new 11.04 64 bit version). I'm guessing that the new hoster becomes
 primary direct download site, do you still wish me to be a secondary direct
 download site?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )

2011-05-05 Thread UndiFineD
The Bittorrent protocol has one downside, not being able to connect
simple users.
the reason for this is are passive connections, where the torrent
client is not directly accessible through a tcp port from the
internet.

active connections are those clients that did configure a port to be
addressable from the internet
often that requires to configure a port forward in your home router to
your machine.

you can make 'active - active' connections and 'active - passive' connections

client - port 51413 - internet - port 65530 - client



2011/5/5 Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com:
 Only when I'm downloaden the uploading seems to go fast, but besides that,
 it seems really slow. Even thou I'm not online all the time, but should be
 more than 1.241 ratio. Also I can't seem to be able to upload with every
 torrent I've got uploading (8 linux images), even after setting upload slots
 to about 20.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New header

2011-05-02 Thread UndiFineD
Both wiki's fit in a 1024 width screen
the logo's for a new header might need to be remade anyway I think.
Font size is alright with me.

great job Chris

What would be a small screen for you Julien ?


2011/5/2 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com:
 Le Monday 02 May 2011 à 17:49 +0200, Chris a écrit :

 I've spend the afternoon making a new, more modern header for the wiki
 and help pages. To check it out, head over to [1] which will show a
 comparison between my new and the current header. In the bottom you
 see the base for the new header, the UBT header. If you miss any links
 in the new header or have suggestions, please share them with me. I
 would be very honored if you wanted to use my header.

 Very nice :) Adding quick links to Artwork, Translation ... is a good
 idea. But I can't see the logos (broken links).
 Also, I think it's a bit too big. On small screen, it will take too much
 space IMO. For example, the one on
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu is small enough IMO.

 What other people from documumentation think ?

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Beta 1 Installed

2011-04-01 Thread UndiFineD
Congrats on the install, I wonder though, how big is your swap, it may be used ?

2011/4/1 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
 First the good news.
 Just installed Beta 1 one using the Install option from the menu and it 
 installed  on a machine with 256 MiB of RAM and on-board video.  This is the 
 first time I've been able to install Natty from a live CD with any Ubuntu 
 disrto on this machine.  All ways had to use the alternate disk.

 Bad news.
 That damn line is still across the middle of the install screen.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Beta 1 Installed

2011-04-01 Thread UndiFineD
 2011/4/1 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
  First the good news.
  Just installed Beta 1 one using the Install option from the menu and it 
  installed  on a machine with 256 MiB of RAM and on-board video.  This is 
  the first time I've been able to install Natty from a live CD with any 
  Ubuntu disrto on this machine.  All ways had to use the alternate disk.
 
  Bad news.
  That damn line is still across the middle of the install screen.
 
 Congrats on the install, I wonder though, how big is your swap, it may be 
 used ?

 There are 3 swap partitions on the machine 384 MiB each, one on each HDD, and 
 have been for every install.  I set the drives up with GParted before 
 anything else was installed.  Not sure if the installer uses swap though.  I 
 know some don't as some distros insist on formatting swap.  This is a right 
 royal PITA as it changes the UUID and I have to alter it back so the other 
 distros on there don't lose the swap.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Resignation

2011-03-30 Thread UndiFineD
2011/3/30 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
 On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:53:15 -0500
 Zach Kriesse zkrie...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hello all, now I know that I've kinda sent an email like this before but
 the time has come for me to say goodbye. Recent events have occurred
 where I simply do not have the time to contribute nor the desire to
 act like I am...because that's really just lying to not only my fellow
 team-mates but also myself. I will leave the Doc FG for the BT to the
 council, and I will decide on a lead for Ubuntu Youth...I'm sorry but I
 need to really just work on getting back in school, finding a job, and
 starting a career for myself. I simply do not have the time to do
 anything else. It was nice to know all of you, it's been fun and
 awesome. Farwell

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 Cheers!

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 Life does get in the way of things at times, doesn't it :)

 Good luck for the future.


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I wish you good luck with finding yourself a career.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Really odd keyboard and mouse issue

2011-03-16 Thread UndiFineD
Somehow I get the feeling 'scheduler' is in place here
are you running a custom kernel ?


2011/3/16 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com:
 How often is every now and then?  Once a day?  Once a month? :)  If it
 is very infrequent, you will probably need to run monitoring tools all
 the time, so you can catch it in the act.


 The computer is on 24/7 but I'm obviously not at it, so for example
 today it has done it 3 times while I'm at the computer already in the
 space of a few hours. Other days it's not at all.

 (1) Based on the above, I would suggest running system monitoring tools
 to check what else the machine is doing when it is lagging your
 keyboard/mouse input.  htop, iotop, jnettop will do for simple
 text-based what is doing a lot of work on my PC checking. vmstat and
 iostat might be worth a look too.

 I completely forgot about iotop, I've been running htop and can't see
 anything, the CPU is idling along at 1 - 3 % (3.2 P4 Prescott) and the
 RAM is using around 20% (2GB). Last time I had a really weird problem
 with a computer it turned out to be a faulty CPU cooler connection so
 I've been keeping an eye to the temps and they are all fine.


 (2) If you are comfortable working at the command line, you could also
 consider running the machine with no GUI (no X) -- no LXDE stuff at all,
 just plain old text mode consoles) for a while.  If the issue goes away,
 you would then suspect that whatever is causing the problem is X related
 in some way.  With enough time, you could then start X and run just an
 xterm or LXterminal window and see if that lags or not... and so on...
 slowly building back up towards a full LXDE GUI.  Knowing what was added
 that started the problem up again would be a very big clue.

 Ah I was hoping this would have been tested with the SSH because this
 is my main IRC, IM, Web Browsing and Email machine here at home.

 (3) If you have another spare test machine, try setting it up as close
 to identical to the first one as you can, documenting how to do that
 step by step.  Then, see if you can reproduce the problem on the second
 machine too.  If you can reproduce it there, you now have accurate and
 tested step-by-step how to reproduce information for the bug report,
 which could be very handy for others trying to duplicate and track down
 the issue :)
 Realistically, this kind of weird stuff happens occasionally issue is
 going to be hard to track down.  Hopefully the above suggestions will
 help, if you decide you have the patience to really work on doing that.

 Thanks for your thoughts I have already started up iotop so I'll see
 how that goes. I was half hoping there would be a oh I had that
 problem and did this solution, but I think that was a bit of wishful
 thinking. I will make sure I let everyone know if I find a solution
 though as this is really odd. Feel free to keep the suggestions
 coming, it's really bugging me.


 Regards,

 Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update 27 Feb 2am)

2011-02-27 Thread UndiFineD
2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm:
 On 02/22/2011 11:55 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

 Incidentally, I hope to build my first more or less Lubuntu ISO
 from these two scripts, hands off except for entering a sudo
 password, before I go to bed tonight ...

 That worked.  After that, I set up a and downloaded a local Ubuntu
 repository for natty (all 59GB of it), and arranged nightly automated
 updates to it, and then pointed debootstrap and apt at it during the ISO
 creation process, to reduce my ISO creation times -- I'm now down to 12
 minutes, by cheating the number of language-pack-gnome-* I use... so
 maybe 15mins if I undo that English-centric shortcut!

 Today (tonight?) I got the md5sum issue fixed (no need to edit the
 m5dsum.txt file by hand at all now for boot.cat, and no hex checksum
 strings in the script to stuff into md5sums.txt, either!).

 The resulting i386 ISO works for me in qemu as a livecd using

  qemu -cdrom lubuntu-i386-20110227.iso

 The checksum test now passes, and and Try it without installing lets
 me do basic stuff ... minimal testing only, so far :)

 Next likely steps are:

  (a) Look at why virtualbox is so unhappy with these ISO images
  (b) Document the script, and give it back to Julien for comment
  (c) Work on 64bit ISOs (will probably need work on livecd-rootfs
     image creation, current approach has i386-isms in it I think)
  (d) Work on alternate installer ISOs
  (e) Work on automatic daily/weekly ISO creation and publication
  (f) Relax, maybe? :)

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I had no issue loading the install cd in virtualbox 4.0
however, the install cd might use elements from the VM guest additions
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update 27 Feb 2am)

2011-02-27 Thread UndiFineD
2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm:
 On 02/27/2011 02:58 AM, UndiFineD wrote:

 2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm:

 Next likely steps are:

  (a) Look at why virtualbox is so unhappy with these ISO images

 I had no issue loading the install cd in virtualbox 4.0 however, the
 install cd might use elements from the VM guest additions for
 virtualbox and vmware

 Interesting.  This is the Lubuntu 11.04 Alpha2 CD we are talking about,
 right?

 It works for me in virtualbox 4.0.4 on Windows 7 64bit at work, but not
 here at home on Ubuntu 10.04.2 amd64, even though official Ubuntu natty
 ISOs work fine here.  And someone else reported it not working for them
 in virtualbox.  Maybe it is some configurable setting in virtualbox that
 breaks it?  More testing needed.

 Thanks,

 Jonathan


Confirmed.

I just had installed VirtualBox 4.0 again, how did it ever uninstall I
don't know.
Then I downloaded Lubuntu 11.04 Alpha2.
Installed with a fair spec'd virtual machine.

There were 2 small bugs during installation.
 * The menu panel was right in the middle of my screen.
 * The installation did not properly shutdown the machine.
No installation breaker though.

A screenshot of installed Lubuntu.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/desktop/Screenshot-11.png


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] JackyAlcie

2011-02-13 Thread UndiFineD
2011/2/13 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com:
 Hiyas Jacky,

 well what can I say? To be immediately elected to UBT means they have been
 stalking you for a while (they do have a habit of doing so). Congratultions
 to you and the UBT team for getting an excellent new member but also to to
 speechcontrol and accessbiltiy for getting another person onto the team to
 push the cause.

 For those that do yet not yet know him, he is
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jackyalcine

 Regards,

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Congratulations Jacky!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] phillw.net

2011-02-06 Thread UndiFineD
2011/2/6 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com:
 Hiyas,
 as some of you will be aware, I've had a few problems on that area. The
 disappearance of the lubuntu iso's and my forum upgrade getting totally
 borked.
 The are going to reset everything back to 1st Feb. I've taken backups of
 people's areas that I host. Please be patient, the reason it has taken so
 long is that the ticket was not raised for 2nd level support - They are
 severely unhappy about this and will be 'talking' to the members of the 1st
 level support team who had assured me that support tickets had been raised
 (Disciplinary action, as iWeb do pride themselves on their rapid support).
 They have been given the go-ahead now  have said it will acted on promptly.
 Apologies for all inconvenience that this has caused, especially to those
 who use my forum area for classroom notes, quick links to documentation etc.
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I hope things will work out as planned, when lagging over the weekend,
things may fail as a monday-morning product approved

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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 660003] Re: Did not proper start gnome keyring

2011-01-30 Thread UndiFineD
Hello Eric,

We also have an eeepc900, but without the huawei, I have an external stick.
you could install ' bum ' and make sure the modem-manager starts after nm-applet

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Title:
  Did not proper start gnome keyring

Status in “lxdm” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Binary package hint: lxdm

  eric@scylla:~$ lsb_release -rd
  Description:  Ubuntu 10.10
  Release:  10.10

  Could not use ubuntu-bug bout this package. Summary: Updated my eee from 
lubuntu 10.04 to 10.10. Now i have to reenter my umts pin every login, before 
the update this was done by gnome-keyring. The keyring works a bit, login to 
wifi works well with stored pass.
  --- 
  Architecture: i386
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10
  EcryptfsInUse: Yes
  Package: lxdm 0.2.0-0ubuntu1-henry1
  PackageArchitecture: i386
  ProcEnviron:
   LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.34-genusername 2.6.35.4
  Tags: maverick
  Uname: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic i686
  UnreportableReason: Dies ist kein echtes Ubuntu-Paket
  UserGroups: admin



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Introducing Naveen (IRC-wolfpack) as Padawan

2011-01-23 Thread UndiFineD
2011/1/22 Naveen Agrawal nav.coo...@gmail.com:
 Hello,

 I am pleased to share that my Master Phill will be holding my soul, as
 mentor. I am blessed that I will be guided by HIS valuble knowledge 
 experience. I am sure that I will turn into a valuable contributor to Ubuntu
 .

 Regards
 Naveen (wolfpack)

 Links
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