Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
. For me, it works fine, language stays as English. Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/28/2011 06:01 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: To make this little wish list come true, needs a the most precious resource of all dev time. Hence my asking the boss if they had time. It really looks good, can we spare a dev to babysit it? Probably; if the upstream obkey author agrees to

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
PyGObject and GTK3? Other than that, it just needs packaging and documentation, as far as I can see. If it were really truly just a matter of packaging, I'd make an attempt; but I'm not about to volunteer for the related documentation- writing and porting-to-PyGObject work. Jonathan -- Jonathan

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Viewnior?

2011-12-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/26/2011 12:09 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Will Viewnior be the default image viewer in 12.04 ? In 11.04 and 11.10 it's not in the repos... There are some issues with the modified included graphics library that Viewnior uses, and Debian/Ubuntu packaging policy. Its author does

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/23/2011 06:52 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the updates and upgrades ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I want to use zsync that I already installed. *From my understanding to all

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver

2011-12-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/23/2011 06:09 PM, ∅ wrote: Really? I've never had this problem, VM or not. Which screensaver are you using? I'm using GLMatrix. The default one does it for me, at least in virtualbox VMs. Although I usually don't notice it for weeks, because I leave only one such VM running unles I

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium (really removing chromium-browser)

2011-12-22 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Please would everyone note that in the world of Debian and Ubuntu packages, chromium is a game, and chromium-browser is a browser :) On Dec 22, 2011 8:43 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively different results. This

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How LSC works? (searching for packages)

2011-12-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/21/2011 06:39 AM, Yorvyk wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:19:04 + Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:49:36 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: ... the same search parameter returns different things... (just try lame in LSC and

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

2011-12-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/20/2011 08:58 PM, PCMan wrote: I have a long-standing unresolved issue on my Thinkpad R60 laptop. My Lubuntu gets overheat and performs shutdown automatically frequently. ... There is some fairly detailed info on Thinkpad fan control under Linux at

[Lubuntu-desktop] Differentiating between logged in users (was: Re: Me again :) )

2011-12-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/17/2011 12:59 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: ... there are 3 different users are using the same PC and they want something to display the name of the current logged in user beside a feature to switch to another user. Sounds like all they really need is a way to tell each login from the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users

2011-12-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/17/2011 04:19 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: 2011/12/17 Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.com Companies, universities, etc. will have a local repo or cache and only download the update once for thousands of machines. Even some home users do this if they have few machines.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users (popularity-contest)

2011-12-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/17/2011 04:36 PM, Philip wrote: Would it be possible to include something like a voluntary survey with a round of updates? That would be better than raw numbers, and the users who care enough to fill it out would probably provide the best data. Would this definitely be better than raw

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Network Manager

2011-12-14 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/14/2011 04:53 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I've finally upggraded from 9.10 Ubuntu to 11.10 Lubuntu, the problem is that my network monitor icon has vanished from my bar whilst I was re-organising things and I do not see it any where on the the list of things that should be there? (1)

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Killing glade and gconf -- are there general guidelines or a blueprint?

2011-11-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/26/2011 01:07 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: No, the priority is the glade migration because only Lubuntu specific packages are involved. OK, that helps. Is there documentation out there somewhere about what to replace glade with? Examples, tutorials, whatever? Is using glade 3.10.x (and

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Killing glade and gconf -- are there general guidelines or a blueprint?

2011-11-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/26/2011 01:38 AM, Michael Rawson wrote: I guess it's possible to remove glade and 'hard-code' the interface, but it might take a while. That would be a step backwards in terms of long term maintainability, though. I'm assuming there is a better replacement for glade, or an upgrade for

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New web site for Lubuntu

2011-11-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/25/2011 04:02 AM, Martin Olesen wrote: I am showing this to more people than the ones who are registered users of the wiki page. If I demand that they begin with a registration I will lose half of the responses. OK, please at least link to the demo site and response page from the wiki

[Lubuntu-desktop] Killing glade and gconf -- are there general guidelines or a blueprint?

2011-11-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
For Precise, we have several work items (15, according to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-lubuntu-p-optimizations ) that are related to killing gconf and glade. I'd like to look at what this takes and why we are doing it; was there a general Ubuntu-wide blueprint defining why

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Killing glade and gconf -- are there general guidelines or a blueprint?

2011-11-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/25/2011 10:02 PM, Andrew Woodhead wrote: gnome3 uses dconf not gconf, so as gnome2 is dying or dead, we all must move on and use what is supported upstream. That makes sense, thanks. Actually it looks like we are supposed to migrate from gconf to GSettings, which is a higher level

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How To Access PCs on Local Network

2011-11-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/22/2011 01:17 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: In pcmanfm, click on Go - Network Drives, and browse to the desired machine and share. Under Go Network I only see Windows Network (I don't have any windows machines, all are either Ubuntu or openSUSE) , clicking on it does nothing.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How To Access PCs on Local Network

2011-11-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/24/2011 12:47 PM, ∅ wrote: On 11/24/2011 12:15 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: Feel free to document all the protocols gvfs handles, if you think that would benefit Lubuntu users. Please don't just document the one protocol you happen to be using :) Actually I have a question about

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New web site for Lubuntu

2011-11-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/24/2011 04:26 PM, Martin Olesen wrote: The site is at https://sites.google.com/site/lubuntunet/ Thanks for putting up a prototype site. and comments can be written at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_mZ5dVbuY5Qk3E7MbqxEkGL1fphAwiSKRqzXkAzyqmg/edit I thought as a team we had

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How To Access PCs on Local Network

2011-11-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/21/2011 12:11 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Under Ubuntu's Nautilus its very easy to connect to other PCs, just use the Connect to Server option, enter the IP of the machine, user name and password and you can access the drives on that PC. How do you do that under Lubuntu? Assuming the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/20/2011 07:29 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 20/11/2011 19:31, Yorvyk wrote: If a CPU can't support PAE it can't support more than 4GiB of RAM, so the PAE part of the kernel shoudn't come into play. From what I understand, PAE has a different set of paging structures compared to

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Site

2011-11-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
: Projects - About Ubuntu - Derivatives I suspect that in practice, more people learn about them by asking others who use them. Word of mouth is *still* a good way to publicize something. So, if you like Lubuntu, tell your friends about it :) Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
makes it impractical to run on a Pentium II, we need to stand up and be counted. If (as I suspect) it only prevents use on Pentium I, really old AMD, VIA C3 and Geode, then ... that's a much smaller population of still-working computers, and I suggest we let it slide. Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/18/2011 04:45 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: So there is no need to support the dropping of chip sets at 10.04, and none of at the next release? The changes in 10.10 that cause it to be unusable on some CPUs are already made. I am unclear which exact CPU models can run 10.10 and 11.04 and

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/18/2011 05:43 PM, Jared Norris wrote: So to this end, my question is, is there a simple command people can run to see if their CPU can run PAE kernels? I would have thought if cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae would not give any output if the CPUs weren't capable? I'm not an expert so just

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/18/2011 11:50 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Last year they dropped support for a lot of machines, now they will drop for a lot more? A lot? How did you determine this, and can you let us know the numeric upper and lower bounds of a lot in the second phrase of this description?

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/15/2011 08:17 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Ok, so I planned the meetings until next year. The current Agenda will be available on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda. 20:00 UTC Wednesday is 12:00 Pacific time Wednesday, so that's tricky for me, I am likely to be at

[Lubuntu-desktop] Viewnior packaging, and bug #889414

2011-11-13 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien, On 11/13/2011 05:03 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Do you contact the person who owns the ITP of Viewnior ? Maybe he is still working on it ? I have now ... I wanted to make sure it wasn't going to be really hard to package, before I started going public :) See

[Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Tracking progress (was: Re: [Lubuntu 12.04] My Suggestions)

2011-11-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/12/2011 12:38 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: *My suggestions*: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11447159postcount=94 *Original thread*: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442 In case I want to add more, shall I update my post or send them through this email? This

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Tracking progress

2011-11-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/12/2011 04:03 PM, Lance wrote: Please don't make extra work for our scarce and overworked developers :) I've honestly wondered about that for some time now. While I'm no dev by any stretch of the imagination I have been involved in Ubuntu iso-testing for well over 3 years, and

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu 12.04] My Suggestions

2011-11-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien, On 11/12/2011 09:15 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Just a quick note, you can now follow progress of Lubuntu development on status.ubuntu.com. Oh, nice :) That's a lot prettier than the wiki page and blueprint text. I've packaged Viewnior 1.1, using its original tarball (there is a

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/05/2011 05:51 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: So far, I don't see advantages to switch to Firefox. Of course, if the benchmarks show a real difference, I may reconsider my opinion. Tom's Hardware regularly benchmarks browsers, but sadly only under Windows and OS X. The relevant page (Memory

[Lubuntu-desktop] DNS troubleshooting basics (was: www.lxde.org is down!)

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 10/25/2011 03:36 PM, Ali Linx wrote: Network Error (dns_server_failure) Your request could not be processed because an error occurred contacting the DNS server. ... Here is how to troubleshoot this kind of issue: (1) Use dig +nssearch to find out the nameservers for the domain:

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] www.lxde.org is down!

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 10/28/2011 11:41 PM, Yao Wei (魏銘廷) wrote: Please help me check out the issue (Maybe the issue is in the proxy server I can't touch: I got a proxy error). I tried to restart the web server but it won't work. I suspect this is because your machine can no longer resolve names such as

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Presentation software for Lubuntu

2011-09-16 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/15/2011 05:00 PM, Arief Rachman wrote: I need some help. Is there any lightweight software like power point in Lubuntu?! Because the main reason why I use netbook is its portability to make presentation. But since there's no lightweight program to make a presentation, I think I buy

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] R: Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb'

2011-09-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Da: br41...@gmail.com mailto:br41...@gmail.com Data: 11/09/2011 18.17 Ogg: [Lubuntu-desktop] Asking: How to read 'chm' and 'pdb' I'm a newbie and I really love my new lubuntu. But I have some problems here. I can't open my 'chm' and 'pdb' files. Is there any I can do? ... Yes, these files

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dentist visit

2011-09-07 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/07/2011 04:36 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I'm am planning to see my dentist (and be told off for the length of time since last visit). Me too... I have a toothache! I see my dentist tomorrow... but her offices are close to my work, near Walmart... travel time is not a problem :) She

[Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???

2011-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says our md5sums for some ISOs vary. Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu iso-testing (and PowerPC)

2011-08-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 08/29/2011 01:02 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: @Jonathan, as I am still new to VM's, can the system I have test out the mac ones? In a word, no. You would need a way to emulate a PowerPC Mac; that's not something Virtualbox does. To do that, you would need something more like PearPC from

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] more ISOs (and image size)

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 08/04/2011 04:00 PM, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) wrote: Notice they're not oversized. Are these images uploaded by any of you? No, they are generated by the Canonical build system, automatically. Normal humans do not have upload rights to cdimage.ubuntu.com :) Incidentally, I think you should

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Second Test Lubuntu Lucid 10.04.3 ISO image available

2011-08-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 08/01/2011 04:11 AM, Lance wrote: Just downloaded it, the md5sum I get is: 3f2d7b310e2db02a08b6085bd03b44ba lubuntu-lucid-20110801-i386.iso I'm going to go ahead and burn it because I seldom get a bad download, but thought I should verify all the same. My fault: I forgot to mention

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Test Lubuntu Lucid 10.04.3 ISO image available

2011-07-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/31/2011 09:12 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I've had two tries at downloading... both got to 100% then 'died' :( I'll have another try later. OK. I uploaded my test 10.04.3 ISO to your server last night, so http://www.phillw.net/lubuntu-lucid-20110731-i386.iso should work now for

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Test Lubuntu Lucid 10.04.3 ISO image available

2011-07-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/31/2011 03:03 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: It seems that Chromium, and most certainly Oracle VM bitch out big time at the filename, when I renamed it as .iso, it was a happy bunny. It *is* a .iso file as provided, isn't it?? Filename is supposed to be lubuntu-lucid-20110731-i386.iso

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Second Test Lubuntu Lucid 10.04.3 ISO image available

2011-07-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/31/2011 06:09 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: HOWEVER: *first*, the 10.04.3 image needs to work as designed, and actually install to a hard disk :) ... Well, I'm a significant step closer. A file called lubuntu-lucid-20110801-i386.iso is being uploaded to Phill W's site as I type

[Lubuntu-desktop] Test Lubuntu Lucid 10.04.3 ISO image available

2011-07-30 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/28/2011 01:15 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I was thinking that possibly using something like remastersys http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html may be possible for Jonathan to get a 'community' 10.04 update out pretty quickly rather than you both having to spend time

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Test Lubuntu Lucid 10.04.3 ISO image available

2011-07-30 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/30/2011 10:02 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: My first attempt at an Lubuntu 10.04.3 ISO (warning: this is an unofficial, community version, which is relatively untested, and may eat your cat/steal your girlfriend/do bad things...) is now at ftp://ftp/jmarsden.org/pub/lubuntu-lucid

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Community Ubuntu Documentation] Update of Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ by mpathy

2011-07-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/28/2011 02:55 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: oops, not proposed, it has been applied. My bad If it is a problem, then I will roll back the page. - pcmanfm $url + open_lxde $url As long as it works (I have not tested this!), this is a positive change.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] community editions of 11.04 (Ubiquity RAM usage vs alternate installer)

2011-07-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/25/2011 09:58 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: When you were poking around with the installer for your low-disk space install version of 11.04, did you see anything that also doubled up the minimal RAM requirement? The standard build now requires 384MB RAM, a couple of people have now flagged

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Language Packs

2011-07-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/21/2011 04:29 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I know we've discussed this before, but for the life of me I cannot find the solution / bug-fix / work around I'm not aware of previous discussion, maybe it was before my time :) (This quote should have an attribution line, so we know

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

2011-07-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/08/2011 04:37 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: As of yet, i have had no input to the presentation. I do need thoughts in by about Wednesday. OK, lets do an outline for people to improve on. Try something like: Title: Lubuntu: Getting Started with a new lightweight Ubuntu Flavour 1. What

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?

2011-06-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/24/2011 03:21 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: And the RAM / CPU Usage for USC on a minimal spec Lubuntu machine is Is kinda what I'm asking :) Why are you asking that? Lubuntu is not about to start shipping USC by default. Nor is Lubuntu about to remove synaptic. People with minimal

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?

2011-06-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Earlier I wrote: This is a non-issue for Lubuntu, as far as I can see. On 06/24/2011 02:47 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Maybe the concern about this should be focus on the future of the app. Will it still be well supported now that's off from Ubuntu? (1) It's not off from Ubuntu --

[Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad 0.8.18.1 packaged -- testing wanted

2011-06-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I've packaged a new upstream version of leafpad, 0.8.18.1, for Debian and Ubuntu, and there are now Ubuntu packages of it in my PPA. Brave volunteers running Ubuntu or Lubuntu natty (or oneiric alpha1) who are willing to test this in the next week or so can obtain it using: sudo

[Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm copyright and licencing (was: Re: Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release. )

2011-06-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
(4) One has a rather different copyright, and a license statement that needs fixing: src/gseal-gtk-compat.h: LGPL (with incorrect FSF address) On 06/23/2011 09:27 AM, PCMan wrote: Is it possible to make it GPL? I forgot who added this file. Only its authors can change the licence

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] autogenerating pcmanfm LINGUAS file

2011-06-19 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/18/2011 10:16 PM, PCMan wrote: Regarding to the LINGUAS file, we have a special issue here. ... Yes, when I did the bzr recipe to package from the git sources more directly I discovered that automation. So perhaps the earlier patch was historical -- created before the automated

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-19 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/18/2011 10:07 PM, PCMan wrote: Add LINGUAS, reference doc files and libfm-pref-apps.desktop launcher: We do not translate desktop files directly. Neither do we commit the translated desktop files. OK... then this patch is not needed upstream. I'm not sure why it was done this way as

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-19 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/19/2011 03:57 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Could we push them to a shared PPA, like lubuntu-dev/lubuntu-daily ? Done :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LP Bug #687458 (was: pcmanfm bug )

2011-06-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
get it fixed would be better added to that but report, rather than discussed here on the mailing list, I think. Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/18/2011 12:53 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 06/13/2011 10:12 AM, PCMan wrote: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=156956atid=801864 I think we might also want to go through the bugs reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm since some of these look like

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Lance, On 06/13/2011 10:59 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: ... you have two options if you want a package of the current libfm and pcmanfm code: (1) go ahead and package it now, yourself, in your own PPA, or (2) wait for someone else to package it. Option (2) happened, or is happening. My

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/14/2011 03:17 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: I'm playing with writing a script to grab the libfm git head and Julien's package and automatically create a new package based on the combination of the two. ... If you want to spend more time on this, you should look at recipes on Launchpad.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-14 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Lance, On 06/11/2011 01:55 PM, Lance wrote: As a complete noob to Lubuntu (moving from Ubuntu/Gnome) I wonder if it would be possible to test this via a PPA before committing to a change for Oneiric. Yes, it is possible :) By definition, a new upstream release of pcmanfm will need to be

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/13/2011 07:11 AM, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: On 2011-06-13 14:27, Julien Lavergne wrote: So, what is missing for having a stable release of pcmanfm ? Any major features are still missing ? This is a key question for Lubuntu right now. Using git HEAD as source for a package in a

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:12:06 +0800 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=156956atid=801864 OK, thanks, that's good to know. SUGGESTION: Let's test the current almost-0.9.9 codebase, fix any major issues found in the next week or so, then bump the SONAME

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The procedure for transforming Ubuntu into Lubuntu

2011-06-07 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/06/2011 11:49 AM, Jason Hsu wrote: Given the similarities in our distros (targeting the lower part of the Linux market and being based on existing distros), I figure that much of what works for Lubuntu will work for Swift Linux. I wouldn't be very confident of that; we use the Ubuntu

[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Re: ISO Image Build Documentation Status?

2011-06-07 Thread Jonathan Marsden
, 06 Jun 2011 06:52:12 -0700 From: Michael Casadevall mcasadev...@ubuntu.com To: Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm It's great to get your email, and know that there's serious interest in this. Right now, debian-cd is currently transitioning from livecd-rootfs to live-helper under the hood which

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: LXDE shutown dependency/permissions?

2011-06-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/06/2011 03:22 AM, Jared Norris wrote: I take no credit for the answer but just wanted to pass on the information apparently the issue with the missing shutdown and reboot buttons has been traced to starting X using the startx command rather than the correct startlubuntu command.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Does Lubuntu still need anything in multiverse?

2011-06-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/05/2011 06:03 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le Saturday 04 June 2011 à 22:13 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gilir/+junk/livecd-rootfs-lubuntu-support/revision/77 that we are telling the build system that we need multiverse. This revision is quite

[Lubuntu-desktop] Does Lubuntu still need anything in multiverse?

2011-06-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I noticed in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gilir/+junk/livecd-rootfs-lubuntu-support/revision/77 that we are telling the build system that we need multiverse. But I *think* we should not be doing that any more. All packages in 11.04 were in main, universe or restricted. Am I mistaken? Can

[Lubuntu-desktop] time-admin broken in Lubuntu 11.10 Alpha 1 - GTK3 issue

2011-06-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I know we don't have GTK3 stuff sorted in Alpha1. This is an example of the kind of issues we may face as we migrate. Clicking on Bird - System Tools - Time and Date does nothing visible. Running sudo time-admin in LXterminal gets me Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages

2011-06-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. Can't

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Permissions and who am i (was: Possible bug? )

2011-06-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/02/2011 07:54 PM, Jared Norris wrote: This is only a fairly recent occurrence or I would have picked up on it I would have thought. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to troubleshoot this sort of issue? I would simply log out and then back in but this is my main machine

[Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts on valuing uptime (was: Re: Possible bug? )

2011-06-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/02/2011 07:54 PM, Jared Norris wrote: I would simply log out and then back in but this is my main machine where I value my uptime so would prefer to leave that until last ditch effort. (1) Logging in and out does not change uptime, rebooting changes uptime. (2) Unless the machine is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating An Accessibility Specification for Lubuntu 11.10

2011-05-30 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/30/2011 12:19 AM, Chris wrote: What I think is going wrong is difference in jargon. When the Lubuntu devs/people asked for a roadmap is what the Accessibility people would see as an priority list. When the Lubuntu people have their priority list, then they can create their own roadmap.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating An Accessibility Specification for Lubuntu 11.10

2011-05-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/27/2011 09:26 AM, Pia wrote: ..., but in open source, if you have a very small group represented, you have to get your hands dirty first in order to sufficiently understand the situation well enough to come up with good system specifications and a reasonable roadmap in a reasonable time

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating An Accessibility Specification for Lubuntu 11.10

2011-05-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/29/2011 12:03 PM, Alan Bell wrote: How about sharing Ubuntu's current official accessibility roadmap with the Lubuntu developers, as a start? ... not a roadmap as such, but I have started drafting a document on the Ubuntu infrastructure for accessibility

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Phill, On 05/28/2011 04:24 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: If we are going to keep pidgin for IM, what do we need xchat for? Mainly for those of us who use IRC, and only IRC, and have used xchat for years :) It's a matter of personal preference, of course. If there is good reason to remove xchat,

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 (Alpha1 just to change sources.list?)

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/27/2011 09:21 AM, Yorvyk wrote: I think an Alpha 1 is needed to provided something for people to install in order to get started testing rather than changing Natty to Oneiric in sources.list. So you are saying that is is easier and quicker to download an entire 600+MB ISO, and then

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/28/2011 05:34 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: wasting RAm actually referred to having x-chat and pidgin both running together... x-chat does IRC fanatastically, but is not too good at MSN messenger, AOL / AIM, Yahoo! etc :) OK. So the fix for that is simple: don't do that, unless you have

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/28/2011 06:47 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: IMHO having two programs that one fit in the other is a waste of space in the CD and effort for the Lubuntu devs. It's definitely extra effort for one of the Lubuntu devs if I have to learn to use Pidgin, after years of using xchat :)

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-27 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/27/2011 07:16 PM, Tim Bernhard wrote: I just noticed that the crashing Keyboard and Mouse/Input Device Prefs app crashes on both of my laptops. ... Anyone else willing to test this? This is a known bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/772749 What we need is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 roadmap proposal

2011-05-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien, On 05/26/2011 02:03 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: I'll do it if nobody have comments on it. Thanks :) * June 2nd : Alpha 1 My instinct would be to skip the Alpha 1 this cycle. I'm concerned that this is too soon and won't really be useful -- what would we gain by having alpha

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Which talk engine etc?

2011-05-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/25/2011 05:32 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: your thoughts on espeak for lubuntu? Given lack of spec for what we want to do, if someone is working on speech output for Lubuntu, using espeak at least as a quick fix seems reasonable. BUT this question in itself is cart before the horse

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Accessibility

2011-05-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/24/2011 01:17 AM, Yorvyk wrote: A 700 MHz PIII Celeron with 256 MiB of PC100 RAM and a 100 MHz drive is quite usable. A 200 MHZ PIII Celeron and 128 MiB of 66MHz RAM with a 33 MHz drive is dog slow. If you add a screen reader into the mix I think the later set-up would become

[Lubuntu-desktop] gtk-doc for libfm

2011-05-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/22/2011 08:43 PM, PCMan wrote: Another problem I got in libfm. When I tried to add gtk-doc and glib-testing supports to it, some errors happened during make. Actually I did not know how to correctly use these tools. Help is needed in this part. An option may be removing gtk-doc

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs (LXDE)

2011-05-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/23/2011 01:33 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: I'm not aware of any big crasher. Right click on the Lubuntu 11.04 desktop. Click Desktop Preferences. In Desktop Preferences dialog box, click on the Wallpaper mode field. Select Fill with background color only. Crash! X disappears, then lxdm

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Accessibility

2011-05-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/23/2011 04:58 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: From a general chat to our head of development on lubuntu, he is of the opinion that if the code is really (and I mean really) tight, that it would be possible to include within the very tight constraints that we are committed to be able to

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs (LXDE)

2011-05-22 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/22/2011 04:06 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Thanks Jonathan :) Don't forget to update the TODO page next time :) OK... I tend to only remember to update TODO when the job is done, not when I start working on it!

[Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE plans and priorities

2011-05-22 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/22/2011 08:41 PM, PCMan wrote: After this one is finished, I'll try to find some time to fix other bugs in the file manager. As for other lx-* stuff, I currently don't have enough time to fix them. Really glad that you can help. OK. Personally, I think that when developer time is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs

2011-05-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/08/2011 02:15 AM, PCMan wrote: Seriously, Lubuntu did a lot of fixes to the original LXDE and most of them are quite good. Can anyone help integrate the fixes with upstream source code? OK, I started on this today. I grabbed the current libfm git tree and added six commits, one for

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files

2011-05-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/18/2011 09:57 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Can some one pass me the details for the community 64 Bit 11.04. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03886.html and https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03889.html and also

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] packaging hooks

2011-05-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/17/2011 02:39 PM, matthew byers wrote: Hey folks, what is the supported method of getting apport hooks packaged? Is the process to do as brian murray suggest and: In the event that you write a hook for a package that you can not *upload* or need help getting sponsored, please report a

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)

2011-05-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/15/2011 11:32 AM, UndiFineD wrote: As discussed at uds, put only fital documentation on disc that gets people online so they can read it on help.ubuntu.com. Is all the Sylpheed and Gnumeric help documentation already on help.ubuntu.com? Where? Does the Help menu item in these programs

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)

2011-05-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Earlier, I wrote: I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. On 05/15/2011 12:44 AM, Mikhail Maksimov wrote: No it can not. Tests done on alpha3 show that the system requires at least 2000 MB (decimal M) just to install

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Thu, 12 May 2011 Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. It's interesting to see the differences between the way things are done here at Lubuntu versus other projects I maintain or contribute to (in addition to Peppermint, I also build the Linux Mint LXDE

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Kendall, Thanks for doing this, as you will see from your web server log, an amd64 Lubuntu is something quote a few people are interested in :) On 05/11/2011 03:33 PM, Kendall Weaver wrote: Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the gauntlet a time or two before

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Uninstalled package asks for updates in updatemanager

2011-05-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Mon, 09 May 2011 08:32:50 -0700 Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com wrote: Sorry for the delay. Also, in case you don't believe me I've included a screen shot of the update manager showing the request for Apache updates, but I don't know if the image attachment will be scrubbed or not...Thanks!

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs

2011-05-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/06/2011 02:53 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO Let me know if it's usable for everyone. Works for me. I fixed a pile of the bitesized bugs already :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list:

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