Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm bug
I confirm this bug in Lubuntu 10.10 (I don´t remember verion) 2011/6/17 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset > I'm confirming this bug on Lubuntu 10.04 with pcmanfn 0.9.7 > > -- > jpxsat > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: LXDM or Lightdm ?
-- Mensaje reenviado -- De: Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré Fecha: 13 de junio de 2011 22:41 Asunto: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDM or Lightdm ? Para: Julien Lavergne (Sorry for my English) My littler opinion: Use lxdm for this cycle (We have used for long time and seen to be fine, also study the lightDM performance and let less work for developers for this cycle). Use lightDM for the next cycle (Developers will have more time for develop and study lightDM) 2011/6/9 Julien Lavergne > Le Wednesday 08 June 2011 à 23:26 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : > > I've been running Ubuntu Oneiric with lightdm for a while and it > > appears to behave it's self OK. > > Having had a bit of a read about it I don't see an advantage in > > either, from a user's point of view, and I'm a bit lost with the > > technical (dis)advantages. > > A few thoughts. With the change to GTK3 and the potential problems to > > be resolved with that, are we adding another headache for the few > > competent devs we have. > > Or would having Lightdm give us one less problem, as others in the > > Ubuntu community would be dealing with it and we wouldn't have to > > worry about lxdm either. > > Would sticking with what we know be better as lxdm doesn't have any > > real problems and performs the function for which it is intended. > > In the past, we discovered some bugs in LXDM which was quite painful to > investigate and fix. With a DM used by more people, and more developed, > we decrease this kind of risk. > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left in Lubuntu?
+1 alternate CD It´s suppose that the minimal memory for use Lubuntu is 192MB, but with 256MB to install it, it´s impossible to use it with a very old computer. My suggestion it´s to share a text install (alternate CD) by default. Anyway now Lubuntu isn't for beginners Linux user, so with a text install no body will be complicated. (My experience: the first Linux distro that i install [Ubuntu 7.04], i installed with the alternate CD, with my 256MB of ram memory [and Pentium 4 celeron] was impossible to install with GUI. Even if was my first install i could do it without a problem. The installations it´s intuitive. Sorry for my English. 2011/3/30 PCMan > Text based installer + 1. > The alternate CD with console-based UI is good enough IMO if it can > have l10n user interface. > Windows installer has long been text-based since windows 3.1 and it's > still text-based in windows xp. Nobody complains of this so why should > we insist that there should be a graphical one? > Yes, if you boot from Windows xp installer cd on a machine without OS, > you'll enter text-based installer. The GUI part is only available > after the basic system is set up. > > Actually, we can do the same. > The text-based installer (part I) only installs base system and core > components and then reboot and automatically login X11 with a super > user. After boot, a GUI-based installer (part II) is launched and > continues the remaining parts. This can make things much easier. > > The only problem with this approach is, we cannot have a good > GUI-based UI for partitioning. Windows XP handle this in text-mode, > too. However, I see no real problem here. The rationale is quite > simple. > > Users who doesn't know how to use text-based UI are also the ones that > will almost always choose "automatic partitioning". Others who like to > use "customized" and "manual partitioning" are definitely advanced > power users who don't need a GUI installer. > So don't put 80% of development resources to do what only 20% people need. > > Please, if someone know how to work with the text-based debian > installer, consider this approach. Let's set up a base system with the > text-based one, and continue the remainng parts in a GUI installer > after rebooting into X11. This is also what Windows does. > > Comments? > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset > wrote: > >> >> Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory > footprint > >> >> of the installer for 11.04. > >> > >> The other question this poses is, is it really necessary to have a > >> graphical installer as the default for Lubuntu? > > > > Some time ago, there was a question on the mailing list "What do you > expect > > from Lubuntu" and i think that a very important point is "it will go > where > > Ubuntu can't" or something like that. > > A graphical installer is something that we do only one time (in theory) > so > > if it's a little "ugly" (text) IMHO i don't see the problem. > > -- > > jpxsat > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps
I think it's very useful. For example for windows users that are accustomed to Alt + xx (like me), or when you need to write a strange character or when you don't know the unicode code of a character. Something else, when i do a in my Lubuntu 10.10 the output is (sorry, i don't want to translate everything): Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho Creando árbol de dependencias Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho Se instalarán los siguientes paquetes extras: libgucharmap7 Se instalarán los siguientes paquetes NUEVOS:* (packsges to be instaled)* *gucharmap libgucharmap7* 0 actualizados, 2 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados. Necesito descargar *(download) 1336kB* de archivos. Se utilizarán *(need after installed) 4137kB* de espacio de disco adicional después de esta operación. 2011/2/25 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset > 2011/2/25 Yorvyk > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:20 - >> Chris Druif wrote: >> >> > Hai everyone, >> > >> > Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try >> > to give the "full" experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with >> > a character map installed, I would like to suggest that Lubuntu also >> > comes installed with an character map. Seeing gucharmap (ubuntu's >> > default) doesn't require any addition dependencies and should take 561kB >> > on disk. >> > >> > It was discussed in the latest meeting, and gilir suggested to put it on >> > the mailing-list to check if anyone was against the addition, so let >> > yourself be heard if you do. >> > >> Not something I use very often, but is useful occasionally. >> >> >> -- >> Yorvyk > > > Some users need it... like me for doing my documents that have characters > used in math classes. > It seems to me a great idea for bringing a "full desktop experience" like > Chris said! > > -- > jpxsat > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated it. For me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only for slow machine, it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: "lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE". So, in my opinion xscreensaver should be removed and gnome-power-preferences should be in the start menu (or whatever you call :)) 2011/2/24 Tim Bernhard > > > Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Should most hardware be able to > handle them? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? > > I sort of think that many users expect a screen-saver built into their OS. > I know my mother-in-law loves them for some reason. :) Personally, I have > no use for screen-savers, especially since I'm concerned with maximizing > battery life. But Lubuntu needs to satisfy all users. > > Would shipping Lubuntu with xscreensaver disabled by default be a better > option? > > Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to > lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but > not as default. > > Tim > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Yorvyk wrote: > >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:23:36 -0300 >> Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: >> >> > Lubuntu team: >> > >> > Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a >> good >> > choice to use since it causes problems such as: >> > - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order >> to >> > be able to install the system. >> > - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards >> the >> > screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. >> > In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove >> > xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my >> > screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is >> done >> > (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... >> so >> > it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) >> > Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: >> > "lock the screen". >> > So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to >> use >> > that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is >> locked >> > and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be >> > off, you won't tell ;) >> > The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager >> shuts >> > off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu >> devs >> > to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. >> > >> > I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) >> > >> > >> I think I've commented before about screen-savers. I have never seen a >> justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if >> required.. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy, like you, >> I either disable or remove them from my machines. Your idea for locking the >> machine for those that require this function but, it's a bit late in the >> cycle for anything new to be implemented as feature freeze occurs at the end >> of the month. I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. >> >> -- >> Steve Cook (Yorvyk) >> >> http://lubuntu.net >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing
My computer is not too old, but Ubuntu (gnome) and Xubuntu (xfce) is slow for me. Lubuntu is faster and is a update SO, so i don't have to use a old SO (like WinXP) to use decently my all day work. Other reason that makes Lubuntu my default desktop is that is base on Ubuntu, a OS that i am very familiar, i don't need to learn news things (except the GUI and lubuntu default program). 2011/2/15 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset > Hi John: > > 1) Other Lubuntu users like me. Did the environment factor into your >> decision to start using Lubuntu? Did you use it to bring an old machine >> back to life? > > The reason i had to use this OS is that my machine was not working at all > with XP and since with a P3 & 256 ram there's not a lot of OS that runs > smoothly and are functional, i tried a lot of systems since i found it crazy > to change a healthy machine because of it's OS! One day i found Lubuntu, > tried it... and stayed with it since! For me, it has all the benefits of > Ubuntu but it's very simple, clean... and really fast. Later, I even > installed in a very old amd-k6 and runs nice. > > > 2) Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient. I've >> seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof that >> Lubuntu uses less electricity? > > I could not tell you with scientific proofs, but with Lubuntu my battery > that has 10 years can work for more or less 1,6 hours (starting with the > battery as power source) and i find it incredible... even once it lasted two > hours, starting connected to AC power. With Ubuntu or XP is about 1 hour > only. > > > -- > >> jpxsat > >> Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) > >> Linux user #522.597 > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
