Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] About lxpanel2

2011-12-29 Thread Tim Bernhard
Alexis,

Good luck with your studies.  I commend you for looking outside of the
classroom for knowledge.
You will soon find that what we learn from books and in classes, doesn't
always happen in the real world.  I changed careers a few years back and
got my first programming job a little over a year ago.  The company I work
for built a software package on top of a legacy database that breaks all of
the basic DRY principals.  On the server side, we use Linux, MySQL, and
Java (they let me use Groovy and Grails on my projects. Woot!!)  The client
side runs on Windows and is programed using C#.

So we have a lot of OO technology around here right? So, not county my
Grails projects or the native C# objects like forms, buttons etc, guess how
many objects you will find in our software???  If you guessed between 0 and
maybe 5, you would probably be correct.  Somehow, the software was written
in a procedural manner using OO technology.   All of the logic is tied to
the forms we use and it's often repeated in several places.  We have no
DAOs either, all of our data calls are straight up SQL statements dumped in
to datasets.  My attempts to create reusable objects usually break
something unexpected as does any changes made to legacy tables in the
database.  I found one class that has over 24k lines of code.  Yes, I said
over 24,000 lines of code!!!

I'm lucky because I'm able avoid our client code and program on the server
side in a nice OS envornment, but I still have to deal with that legacy
database everyday and I can't do much with it because if I change it, I
break our client.

When I first got here I was floored by what I saw.  I would call friends I
know who work for fortune 500 companies and found out that other than the
24K line monster I found, what I was seeing is actually pretty common.
Programmers are problem solvers.  We figure out how to make things work
using the knowledge we have, the knowledge we can obtain and the tools we
can use.  It may not always be pretty, it may not always be the best
solution, but we figure out how to make it work.  I'm sure someone is
going to come along some day, take a look at my code and wonder what I was
thinking (if I'm still here, I'll tell them to look at the database I was
stuck with!)  But I'm doing the best that I can right now.

So study hard and pray that you don't end up at a company that somehow
managed to everything as backwards like I did!  LOL  (We all have to start
somewhere right? :) )

Tim


On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:39 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Alexis Lopez Zubieta 
 azubi...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:

 Thanks for your replies Klaus Knopper and PCMan.
 As I understood you are planing to use an structured approach to create
 lxpanel2 and the rest of the LXDE desktop environment.
 Now I want to expose something. I'm an student of informatics engineering
 in the UCI where I learned to design and create applications with Object
 Oriented techniques. But when I came to the world of LXDE I found that
 there is not an object in the whole code and also I didn't find any design
 or  model of the programs that you build.
 So two questions come to me:
 - Are you designing the aplications before start to write code?

 Sure, but I did not receive any formal training and taught myself
 programming with books, other OSS projects, and, google only.
 So the design can be a little bit weird sometimes.
 GTK+ itself is designed in a fully OO way and uses a lot of design
 patterns, but it's written in C.
 However there is no language support for objects in C. We only have struct
 + functions.
 A virtual function table in GTK+ world is a C struct which needs to be
 filled by hand.
 Things does not look like OO initially, but its spirit is OO sometimes.

 - How do you do it? (wich engineering thechniques do you use?)

 None. I did try and error in the past.
 Now I often tried to figure out the design/interfaces/APIs first, and
 start implement them later.
 For the GUI programs, now I tend to design the GUI first.

 Regards
 Alexis.

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 *To: *Klaus Knopper l...@knopper.net
 *Cc: *Alexis Lopez Zubieta azubi...@estudiantes.uci.cu, lxde-list 
 lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net, lubuntu-desktop 
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 If your object oriented refers to the programming language, I'm using
 Vala now, which is a OO language built on top of GObject/C runtime. The
 language itself is OO. This, however, does not mean that the program
 written in it will be OO.
 I'm not a fan of making everything an object approach. No single
 programming style is best for all cases.
 Using too much OO stuff in GObject will create extra overhead as its type
 system is all created at runtime.
 Type-casting and virtual function calls sometimes requires looking up in
 tables. Signal emission 

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 El 28/12/11 15:43, A. Andjelkovic escribió:

  Interesting find, doesn't look very user friendly though (I've only
 watched the screencast, looked weird to me).

 That vs nothing i prefer that :)

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+1  Maybe create a launcher to make it more user friendly.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

2011-11-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
I just tested the power button on my laptop with a fresh 11.10 install and
I did nothing.  I added the lines to the lubuntu-rc.xml file and it worked
after rebooting the system.

Thanks Gabriel.

Tim


On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Then I think we should change the lubuntu-rc.xml instead of installing a
 new app.
 If the functionality is already is available, then that should be the way
 I think.

 With metta, Chris


 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 Am 28.11.2011 12:42, schrieb Chris:
  Does it give that window for asking what action you want to perform?

 Thats exactly what it does


  2011/11/28 Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.com
 
  I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
  I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:
 
  keybind key=XF86PowerOff
  action name=Execute
  commandlubuntu-logout/command
  /action
  /keybind
 
 
  Gabriel Salles
 
 
 
  2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com
 
  Some  users requested here:
 
  http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/
 
  the power button ability again, reinstalling acpid. Is it really
  removed? Does it have heavy dependencies?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

2011-11-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
Funny how something so simple could go undetected by so many.  I guess most
of us just don't use the power button on our machines.  Ha, ha...



On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:11 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.


 Go Julien, GO! :D




 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote:


 Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

 Le 11/28/2011 12:14 PM, Gabriel Salles a écrit :
  I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
  I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:
 
  keybind key=XF86PowerOff
  action name=Execute
  commandlubuntu-logout/command
  /action
  /keybind
 
 
  Gabriel Salles
 
 
 
  2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com
  Some  users requested here:
 
  http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/
 
  the power button ability again, reinstalling acpid. Is it really
 removed? Does it have heavy dependencies?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem

2011-11-18 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:


 It would appear there isn't really a solution for this problem, from what
 I've found googling. :(
 To cheer you up though, todays xkcd http://xkcd.org/ :)

 My only sugestion is to try the alternate install, rather than the minimal
 method.

 --
 Yorvyk

Thanks,

I ended up using Wary (from Puppy Linux) and was able to get it running.
Not the most elegant solution, but it works.  It will probably never get
used anyway.  My friend just wanted something for his father to use when he
hangs around his office.  He was going to buy something else so I decided
to see if I could get Lubuntu on it.

Thanks for the XKCD too.  Perfect!  I love this one:  http://xkcd.com/149/
:)

Tim
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Site

2011-11-18 Thread Tim Bernhard
I'm wondering how people find out about Ubuntu derivatives?  When I look at
the Ubuntu site  I don't see anything about other Ubuntu based distros.

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2011-11-18 Thread Tim Bernhard
I guess the point ends up simply being lxde Ubuntu.

That is fine for a guy like myself because Lubuntu is awsome on my modern 
laptops, but I can see how it deviates from the original mission. nbsp; I feel 
bad for you guys.

Maybe official status isn't what's best for Lubuntu OR maybe you guys need to 
do a side project/distro? (I know, you need more devs.)

Tim



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On Nov 18, 2011 7:48 PM, Phill Whiteside lt;phi...@vpolink.comgt; wrote:

Hiyas JM,
So there is no need to support the dropping of chip sets at 10.04, and none of 
at the next release?
If nbsp;Lubuntu cannot support old hardware, as julien has argued amp; 
pleaded about

nbsp;What is the point of Lubuntu?nbsp;
Have a think of that question. It is one I have been asked many times, and is 
it exactly things like this that let me say me say This is the point...nbsp;

regards,
Phill.




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wrote:

On Friday, November 18, 2011 7:43 PM, Matthew Byers

lt;faintstlsa...@gmail.comgt; wrote:



gt; Yes it will affect Pentium II.



Evidence, please? nbsp;That is not what the original email said at all. 
nbsp;It

is also not what all the info I have on which CPUs can do PAE says.



As far as I know, Pentium Pro and Pentium II CPUs all can do PAE, except

for some 400MHz Pentium M mobile CPUs.



As I understand the email, and based on by fading memory of which CPUs

do PAE, requiring PAE will only exclude Pentium I, a few 400MHz Pentium

M, really old AMD chips, and the less known alternatives such as the

Geode and the VIA C3.



All normal Pentium II processors should handle PAE just fine. nbsp;It looks

like wikipedia agrees with this (not that it is always 100% accurate,

but still, it's an easy to find online source).



Do you have info (or real world experience) that indicates otherwise?



*If* this proposed change makes it impractical to run on a Pentium II,

we need to stand up and be counted. nbsp;If (as I suspect) it only prevents

use on Pentium I, really old AMD, VIA C3 and Geode, then ... that's a

much smaller population of still-working computers, and I suggest we

let it slide.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem

2011-11-17 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks Stephen,

I found that to enter GRUB you simply press and hold SHIFT.  I added the
parameter to the end of the the boot command and booted they system and it
did the same thing.Lubuntu splash and then the screen goes blank.


Tim

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Smally eco.st...@fastwebnet.itwrote:

  On 11/17/2011 04:49 AM, Tim Bernhard wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

  I'm, trying to resurrect an old Sony Vaio PCG-9401.  This thing is an
 old Windose ME machine that came with AMD processor, 12GB hard drive and
 64mb of RAM.  I had a 128mb stick of pc-100 so I dropped that in to bring
 the RAM up to 192mb.  I installed Lubuntu using the mini.iso.  It took a
 while but the install completed.

  The problem is that after rebooting the system I get the following
 message:

  vt596_smbus :00:07.4: SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not
 enabled! - upgrade BIOS or use force=1


  After that, the Lubuntu splash screen is briefly displayed and then the
 screen goes blank.

  Any ideas?

  Thanks,

  Tim


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 try to enter into the grub (you have to hit some keys if it doesn't show
 up automatically, something like Canc, google for it), go on the line that
 says L/Ubuntu * with Linux * (* means the version of the system, 11.10
 with linux 3 or so on), enter e (to edit the entry) and add force=1 after
 quiet splash.

 this because the message says:

 upgrade BIOS or use force=1

 This mean that you grub is too old for Lubuntu, you have to upgrade it, or
 you can add force=1 at the start to avoid the problem.
 if it works i will tell you how to make it persistent (by default when you
 edit an entry the changes you made aren't persistent).

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem

2011-11-16 Thread Tim Bernhard
Hi Everyone,

I'm, trying to resurrect an old Sony Vaio PCG-9401.  This thing is an old
Windose ME machine that came with AMD processor, 12GB hard drive and 64mb
of RAM.  I had a 128mb stick of pc-100 so I dropped that in to bring the
RAM up to 192mb.  I installed Lubuntu using the mini.iso.  It took a while
but the install completed.

The problem is that after rebooting the system I get the following message:


vt596_smbus :00:07.4: SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not enabled!
- upgrade BIOS or use force=1


After that, the Lubuntu splash screen is briefly displayed and then the
screen goes blank.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-09 Thread Tim Bernhard
Again, what is the goal of this?  If the goal is to find the lighter of the
two, will Lubuntu test and choose the lightest with each release?  Does
Lubuntu want to be constantly changing browsers?  Dose Lubuntu care if it's
open source?

I agree it should be one of the two mentioned.  I think Lubuntu should
choose one and stick with it as long as it doesn't substantially fall
behind the other.  I don't think Lubuntu should split hairs over
benchmarks.  If the two are close, move on to the next question.

So what is the long range stance on this.  Lightest no matter what or
lightweight balanced of other criteria?

Tim



On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:55 AM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote:

 Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
 such personal opinions out of this discussion.
 I think we can all agree that both Firefox and Chromium are rich in
 features.
 We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
 Chromium, use the least resources.
 We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
 browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
 Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather This
 is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.

 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On 9 November 2011 06:03, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

  In my view Chromium offers still better features than firefox. Just look
  at the HTML5 capabilities it just beats firefox here with in my view
  important things just like HTML5 videoplayback (H264 is supported)

 Google is dropping H264 support:
 http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html

  or the fact that every browser tab in chromium is running as a different
  process in a sandbox which makes a crash of one tab not concerning for
  other tabs.

 Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
 sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
 available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
 it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.

  All in all I am in flavor of Chromium as its still faster and offers the
  better features.

 That's a bit subjective as Firefox also offers unique features: It's
 possible to run a few hundred tabs in Firefox; the design of
 Chromium's tabbar makes that much more painful in Chromium. Firefox
 has a much more powerful addon framework (although Chromium may
 improve this next year). The user has more control over his data with
 Firefox Sync than with Google's version.

 While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
 web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
 than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
 source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
 nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
 continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
 different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
 the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
 supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
 maintain Chromium).

 Jeremy

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-04 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tim,

 For the 2nd time and yet again, I'd like to THANK YOU for each and every
 word you wrote and for each and every suggestions, be sure I'll keep that
 in mind and I'm very sure you wrote all that because you want to help :)
 totally understood.

However, I'm afraid you are not seeing my point


*I'm afraid you're not seeing my point.  I understand your point and I'm
asking you to change it!  (The nerve or me!! I know!  :) )  Of course I'm
just trying to help.  LOST is already great.  I just think it could be even
better.  That's just my opinion and it's your baby so I'll respect that.*


 Another point I'd like to highlight. If your thread went 4K and became
 LOST, it doesn't mean same will happen with my thread :)
 If I'll fail to control things and my thread will be lost, that's not a
 problem. By that time, I would have something better than that thread, be
 sure of that :)


*I hope your thread far exceeds 4k post and proves more useful than my
little laptop thread (who knew a 11.6 Acer laptop could be so popular?
LOL).  Lubuntu should reach a much wider audience and last longer than any
piece of hardware.  Please, don't let your thread become useless.  People
will hash our solutions in there, don't let them get lost helping them help
you.*

Thank you for your support and thanks again for your suggestions. I already
 started to take that into actions, let's see what will happen :)


*You took action in post
#122http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11423987postcount=122.
It's my opinion that you need to do this at the top where everyone can see
it.  Post #122 will be buried in no time.
*

I love the bookmark concept.  I'm just saying that you could to ask the
users to start and use them, so that you can bookmark the unsolved ones
alongside the ones that are solved.  I think it will make your already
useful thread even more useful.

Not much more I can say.  I can't make it any more clear than I have.  I've
explained myself as best as I can.   There is no real reason for us to keep
this discussion ongoing and I don't want to waste everyone's time.  *I
respect your position and you understand mine so it's up to you to you to
do what you think is best.*  I'll do my best to support you where I can.
Keep up the good work.

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-03 Thread Tim Bernhard
A. J.,

The one stop Lubuntu thread looks great!  I love what you've done with the
first three posts and can tell you have put a lot of work in to it.  I did
have one suggestion that I think will make it even more useful.  I posted
it to the thread.  You can read it here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11419826postcount=116

I took ownership of a forum
threadhttp://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/424213-acer-aspire-1410-1810-timeline-11-6-thread.htmla
couple of years ago and it became unmanageable within a month.  There
were so many different discussions going on at once it was hard to keep up
with them.  I wanted to keep adding the most useful items to the beginning
of the thread, but couldn't because there was so much going on.  To make
matters worse,  people would often think they had a problem solved and I
would dig through multiple posts trying to add the solution to the top of
the thread only to find out it didn't work after all.  Now the thread is
over 4200 posts long and contains a wealth of useful information but it's
nearly impossible to find it.  Doing a simple search on something like
battery life returns 240 of posts with most of them being useless.   It
would have been much better if I had been able to post a like to a thread
that held that discussion on its own.  People would come to the thread late
in the game with issues that had already been solved, but it was nearly
impossible to find the answers in the thread and the people who could
answer them had moved on to the next latest and greatest laptop and were no
longer active participants in that thread.

I hope this helps.

Tim


On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 This should be very useful as long as you take ownership and keep it up to
 date and until it gets so big it's impossible to navigate.   It should
 prove useful for this release and a new one could be started for subsequent
 releases.

 Tim

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 Dear All,

 I think this will be the first Mega Lubuntu Thread on Ubuntu Forum. Since
 my most activities on the Forum and because I'm trying to put together
 everything related to Lubuntu in one place, I have decided to create this
 thread:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755

 Before, it was just a thread with two guides but now, it has another
 purpose and aim.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-11-03 Thread Tim Bernhard
Another great idea!

I like it, but the most useful answer to what?  There were 100s of topics
being discussed in that laptop thread.  The one stop thread is still a nice
clearing house for all things Lubuntu.  Plus some topics might not
actually be issues.  Those might be better served with a traditional
thread.

It might be most useful to ask users with issues to start their subtopics
in Ask Ubuntu and still use A.J.s thread to list them.   No???



On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.comwrote:

 Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K
 posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is
 where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in
 otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top.

 Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to
 AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate
 over as well.

 Cheers,
 James Gifford



 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
  A. J.,
 
  The one stop Lubuntu thread looks great!  I love what you've done with
 the
  first three posts and can tell you have put a lot of work in to it.  I
 did
  have one suggestion that I think will make it even more useful.  I
 posted it
  to the thread.  You can read it here:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11419826postcount=116
 
  I took ownership of a forum thread a couple of years ago and it became
  unmanageable within a month.  There were so many different discussions
 going
  on at once it was hard to keep up with them.  I wanted to keep adding the
  most useful items to the beginning of the thread, but couldn't because
 there
  was so much going on.  To make matters worse,  people would often think
 they
  had a problem solved and I would dig through multiple posts trying to add
  the solution to the top of the thread only to find out it didn't work
 after
  all.  Now the thread is over 4200 posts long and contains a wealth of
 useful
  information but it's nearly impossible to find it.  Doing a simple
 search on
  something like battery life returns 240 of posts with most of them
 being
  useless.   It would have been much better if I had been able to post a
 like
  to a thread that held that discussion on its own.  People would come to
 the
  thread late in the game with issues that had already been solved, but it
 was
  nearly impossible to find the answers in the thread and the people who
 could
  answer them had moved on to the next latest and greatest laptop and were
 no
  longer active participants in that thread.
 
  I hope this helps.
 
  Tim
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  This should be very useful as long as you take ownership and keep it up
 to
  date and until it gets so big it's impossible to navigate.   It should
 prove
  useful for this release and a new one could be started for subsequent
  releases.
 
  Tim
 
  On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear All,
 
  I think this will be the first Mega Lubuntu Thread on Ubuntu Forum.
 Since
  my most activities on the Forum and because I'm trying to put together
  everything related to Lubuntu in one place, I have decided to create
 this
  thread:
 
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755
 
  Before, it was just a thread with two guides but now, it has another
  purpose and aim.
 
  Thank you!
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

2011-10-21 Thread Tim Bernhard
I'm not finding the link to Lubuntu  from Community Documentation.  Also
you might want to add a space in LubuntuDocumetation

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Done.
 Page updated:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts



 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Leszek,

 Ok then, no problem, I'll do that myself.
 Will update this:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts

 Thanks!


 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote:

 Am 21.10.2011 11:38, schrieb Ali Linx:
  If you are talking about the Wiki Pages, I don't mind to update that
 myself
  if you are busy.
 *Yes I am only talking about the screencast. I am not responsible for
 the
 website ;)*
 
  If you are talking about the website (lubuntu.net), then any idea when
 that
  will be? just an approximate date will be great.
 
  Thank you so much!
 
  P.S.
  Lubuntu Screencasts on my signature now (Ubuntu Forum).
  http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822
 
  On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:07 PM, leszek.les...@web.de wrote:
 
  Patients. I am working on it.
  I am pretty occupied by other stuff right now.
 
 
 
  -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer
 
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  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts
  *This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or
 use
  one of the page templates.*
 
  This is what I get when I try to open any Screencast from the above
 link.
 
  Where are ALL the old Screencasts now? users are asking about that all
 the
  time.
 
  Also, what happened to the website? when exactly it will be up and
 running?
 
 
  Thank you!
 
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Leszek,
 
  would you be so kind as to update
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts
 
  Thanks,
 
  Phill.
 
 
  On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Leszek Lesner 
 leszek.les...@web.dewrote:
 
  Am 17.10.2011 23:37, schrieb Gabriel Salles:
  There are some people in Brazil asking me that too..
 
  Gabriel Salles
 
 
  2011/10/17 vanyok van...@gmail.com
 
  Hello everybody,
 
  Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website.
  There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it
 possible
  to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to
  place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts,
  links or whatever)?
 
  Thank you!
  Best regs,
  Ivan aka vanyok
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

2011-10-21 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu (click on Document and Help)
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu (click on Lubuntu Documentation)
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation

 Not sure what link you mean?

 If you are talking about this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community
 There was no link for Lubuntu since beginning (UserDocumentation (last
 edited 2011-08-18 20:20:58 by 
 manzdagratianohttps://launchpad.net/%7Emanzdagratiano
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

2011-10-21 Thread Tim Bernhard
This should be very useful as long as you take ownership and keep it up to
date and until it gets so big it's impossible to navigate.   It should prove
useful for this release and a new one could be started for subsequent
releases.

Tim

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 Dear All,

 I think this will be the first Mega Lubuntu Thread on Ubuntu Forum. Since
 my most activities on the Forum and because I'm trying to put together
 everything related to Lubuntu in one place, I have decided to create this
 thread:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755

 Before, it was just a thread with two guides but now, it has another
 purpose and aim.

 Thank you!

 P.S.
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Extend desktop across dual monitors -- a feature I would like to see in Lubuntu 12.xx

2011-10-06 Thread Tim Bernhard
Hello,

Is there anyway to add Extend Desktop option to the ...?

I was able to find out how to do from the terminal, but it would be really
nice if it were built into the system by default.  It doesn't seen like it
would be too hard to build a script that would let the user set it up
through the GUI, but maybe I'm wrong.

Here is were I found out how to do it:
http://www.pixelshine.net/howto/2011/02/03/dual-monitors-lxde-lubuntu-fixed/
http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html

At the very least, maybe this info could be linked to the wiki.

Thanks,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Extend desktop across dual monitors -- a feature I would like to see in Lubuntu 12.xx

2011-10-06 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks Phill,

I will try GrandR and see how it works on my laptops later today/tonight.
Both are fairly new so there probably won't be any surprises.  One is
running Lubuntu and the other has Peppermint Two.

Tim

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 It was mooted  is on the 'wish list'... However, as stated on
 http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=84 it does not work for
 everyone, so advising caution  telling people that they are 'on thier own'
 is the best for now.

 Regards,

 Phill.

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 Actually I believe that this option should be added to the LxRandr.

 Thanks for sharing the link... I will use it on future... =]

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu

2011-09-08 Thread Tim Bernhard
I agree.  A link to sound preferences makes sense.

The only issues I see are 1) alsamixer is not very intuitive and 2) it dumps
users into a terminal which might scare the crap out of many of them. :)

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com
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 I know we are pass the freeze, but maybe this shortcut could be added to
 preferences menu for 11.10. I think for a lot of people it's useful to
 control the mic and all that stuff in alsamixer. Plus, there's nothing to
 add but this little shortcut :)
 And maybe there's a way to show lxterminal without the menus???


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Sound Editing Software

2011-08-17 Thread Tim Bernhard
I've had to adjust the mic balance in alsamixer to get the mic working on my
last few laptops.  Seems to be a bug were both channels can't be at full
volume.  It's pretty common for people trying to use Skpe with
Acer/Gateway/Packard Bell laptops needing to do this.  A quick internet
search might help.

Also, there is a toggle in alsamixer to turn lines on and off.  I think it
worked with my hardware.

I know it's just a workaround.  Sorry I can't be of more help.

Tim

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 2011/8/17 Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com

 you have checked from alsamixer you dont have microphone muted or on low
 level settings?

 Alsa Mixer doesn't work well... i doesn't allow me to turn the mic nor the
 line on/off.
 It's suposed that Audacity controls the levels himself, but it doesn't
 work...
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new ubuntu software center

2011-08-02 Thread Tim Bernhard
Peppermint has one.  Maybe we should look at that?

Tim

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 yeah, i agree, it looks orrible.
 synaptic is written in C (++?), i know only python as language...
 Mint software center have reviews and other unuseful things, but it
 could be better than USC.

 On 02/08/2011 11:51, Benny Hult wrote:
  Looks horrible and its full of Free software,
  like Android Market or other samekind of variants.
 
  Propably that kind of software is needed for marketing OS for the
  masses. Typing mystical spells into a blackbox is just too geek even
  for the hipsters using OS X ;)
 
  If I could code, I would rather use synaptic as the starting point.
  But, Linux Mint has also own software center, is that lighter than the
  USC? Could that be used or even forked?
 
  Sent from my Sony Ericsson XPERIA™ X1.
 
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  Aihe: [Lubuntu-desktop] new ubuntu software center
  here the new layout of ubuntu software center for oneiric (with webkit).
  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/ubuntu-software-centre-lands-oneiric/
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-07-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
Kendall,

I had a chance two download the new 64-bit* Peppermint Two *image today and
I must say that it looks great!  Seems to be using a little less battery
that One or Ice did.  I'm going to replace the 64-bit Lubuntu build you gave
us with P2 on my Acer 3820 and keep 32-bit Lubuntu on my Acer 1810 until
11.10 is released.

I think both distros are going to be a huge hit.

Tim


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 Hey guys,

 I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg package
 that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing
 it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the i386
 as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test
 are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows
 system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be
 made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones
 used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.

 I need to find a way to get this distributed amongst the Lubuntu testers
 and developers. I can stick this up on the Peppermint server probably
 tomorrow sometime or I can throw it in my Dropbox and share it with a couple
 of people (gotta be careful not to max out my available bandwidth though).
 When I figure out how to get this to you guys, it's my hope that you'll take
 it and make it available to everyone who's been wanting a 64 bit Lubuntu for
 all this time. I figured it would be a small thanks to you guys for putting
 together such an excellent distro. Currently I use Lubuntu as the base for
 Peppermint OS and for some of the Linux Mint editions I build.

 Just let me know how best to get this to you guys and I'll start uploading.
 If there are any mission critical changes that need to be made, I can
 probably step back in and take care of them if necessary. Again, just wanted
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Mouse and Keyboard control problem

2011-07-20 Thread Tim Bernhard
I agree.



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2011/7/19 Lee Gold lt;leeg...@operamail.comgt;


Hey, lots of people use laptops with Synaptic touchpads - there should
really be stable native support to config it in Lubuntu.

I think this could be a good idea. Including gpointing-device-settings or a 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Is Bluetooth needed by default?

2011-06-19 Thread Tim Bernhard
Yes.



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Does anybody actually use Bluetooth?  Does it need to be on the default install?



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default

2011-06-19 Thread Tim Bernhard
No comment on the first point but agee with the other two.




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+1 here



Fully agree.



1. LXDM is working really well. LightDM is not polished.



2. XChat is used by those who are members of something (coders, 
collaborators, corporate...) not by normal people.



3. Leafpad is enough. Remember that many of us use even nano on a console, 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

2011-06-05 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:





 IMHO Lubuntu is just great, besides being lightweight it could be a great
 bridge for those who don't quite love Unity and/or gnome3.

 I find the DE very easy to adapt to having used gnome2 since Gutsy.




+ 1 on that statement.   Lubuntu should not be regarded as *just *a great
lightweight OS for low spec hardware, but as a great OS for anyone.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks



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On May 28, 2011 12:56 AM, Jonathan Marsden lt;jmars...@fastmail.fmgt; wrote: 

On 05/27/2011 07:16 PM, Tim Bernhard wrote:



gt; I just noticed that the crashing Keyboard and Mouse/Input Device 

gt; Prefs app crashes on both of my laptops.  ...

gt; Anyone else willing to test this?



This is a known bug.



  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/772749



What we need is someone with time and developer skills to fix it; more

testing is probably not useful at this point.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-27 Thread Tim Bernhard
I just noticed that the crashing Keyboard and Mouse/Input Device Prefs
app crashes on both of my laptops.  The other laptop uses a Synaptic
track-pad.  It worked fine out of the box so I never tried to adjust the
speed or sensitivity, but I just gave it a test and it crashed the app as
soon as I moved and released the slider.   If I reopen the app, it still
shows the default settings.

Anyone else willing to test this?

Tim



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just a quick note.  I've been using Lubuntu 32 and 64 bit on my 11.6
 Gateway EC1458u and Acer 1810TZ laptops with out any issues.  I purchased a
 new laptop and found a few bugs.  I tested with both  64-bit installed and
 32-bit live.

 Here is the short list:

 1) Can't adjust screen brightness.  The application shows changes, but
 doesn't actually affect the display.

 2) If I try to mouse settings, the Input Device Prefs applications
 crashes.  (I only tested with trackpad.  will try mouse later.)

 3) No scrolling on the on the touch pad.

 4)  Can set tool bar style/window list to display icons only.  I can select
 the option, but it has no affect.

 My guess is that there are some compatibility issues with this machine
 (Acer 3820T).  I'll do some more testing when I have a little more time and
 see if there are any known problems with running Ubuntu in general with this
 machine.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-26 Thread Tim Bernhard
Just a quick note.  I've been using Lubuntu 32 and 64 bit on my 11.6
Gateway EC1458u and Acer 1810TZ laptops with out any issues.  I purchased a
new laptop and found a few bugs.  I tested with both  64-bit installed and
32-bit live.

Here is the short list:

1) Can't adjust screen brightness.  The application shows changes, but
doesn't actually affect the display.

2) If I try to mouse settings, the Input Device Prefs applications
crashes.  (I only tested with trackpad.  will try mouse later.)

3) No scrolling on the on the touch pad.

4)  Can set tool bar style/window list to display icons only.  I can select
the option, but it has no affect.

My guess is that there are some compatibility issues with this machine (Acer
3820T).  I'll do some more testing when I have a little more time and see if
there are any known problems with running Ubuntu in general with this
machine.

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-26 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks

2011/5/26 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

  As far as I know, the toolbar icons maybe a GTK bug. It happened to me
 with Gnome. I'll test it and, if I can reproduce the error, I'll mark it as
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-26 Thread Tim Bernhard
No Luck.  I'm beginning to think I'm looking in the wrong place.  What I'm
trying to do is have my Task Bar (Window List) show only the icons for
open applications.  I have this set on my other Acer.  Maybe I need to look
at it again an see if I can figure out how I did it.

Tim

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:31 PM, 神癒礁湖 rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have no problem with it. Check this out. Open gconf-editor and go to
 /desktop/gnome/interface, look for a key called toolbar_style. You can have
 four posible values: both, both-horiz, icons, and text.  Try to change here.
 Have a PCManFM window opened near gconf-editor to see the changes. If
 nothing happens, please, tell me again, but test it first with another theme
 (open LXAppearance and select Clearlooks, for example).

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-26 Thread Tim Bernhard
OK, item 4 is not a bug.  I found the Icons only setting for the Task Bar
(Window List).  You have to open panel preferences panel appletsTask Bar
(Window List)edit!  Very hard to find and not very intuitive.  I've done
this 4-5 times so far and I still have a hard time changing this setting.
 If I remember correctly, Peppermint made this setting available in a much
easier fashion.  I don't have a Live USB of Peppermint right now, but I'll
make one up and check into it.

So the real issue is the touch pad.  I HAVE to get scrolling to work on this
sucker  I didn't realize this thing came with an Alps touch-pad. :(

Tim

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 No Luck.  I'm beginning to think I'm looking in the wrong place.  What I'm
 trying to do is have my Task Bar (Window List) show only the icons for
 open applications.  I have this set on my other Acer.  Maybe I need to look
 at it again an see if I can figure out how I did it.

 Tim


 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:31 PM, 神癒礁湖 rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have no problem with it. Check this out. Open gconf-editor and go to
 /desktop/gnome/interface, look for a key called toolbar_style. You can have
 four posible values: both, both-horiz, icons, and text.  Try to change here.
 Have a PCManFM window opened near gconf-editor to see the changes. If
 nothing happens, please, tell me again, but test it first with another theme
 (open LXAppearance and select Clearlooks, for example).

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs (LXDE)

2011-05-24 Thread Tim Bernhard
I can confirm this behavior (using 64-bit ISO).

Tim

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:16 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
  On 05/23/2011 01:33 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
 
  I'm not aware of any big crasher.
 
  Right click on the Lubuntu 11.04 desktop.  Click Desktop Preferences.
   In Desktop Preferences dialog box, click on the Wallpaper mode field.
   Select Fill with background color only.
 
  Crash!  X disappears, then lxdm shows up, your old session is history.
  Worse still, sometimes (maybe one time in ten?  I can't do it repeatedly
  or reliably!) lxdm does not come back, and you are left in a text mode
  screen with no prompt or other obvious way to proceed.
 
  That probably qualifies as a big crasher, doesn't it? :)
 Actually, this might be related to a recent bug of X11 itself rather
 than the file manager.
 http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2011-May/022281.html
 http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2011-May/022455.html
 
  I'm not picky about my wallpaper, but IMO that's a fairly nasty bug.  If
  you have any unsaved work in open windows in your session, most likely,
  you will lose it.
 
  There is a (possibly related) strange (but less dramatic!) effect if you
  select the Wallpaper field instead, and then press Escape.  It sets it
  to (none), but closing the dialog does not then do what it should, it
  seems to just totally ignore the setting change.
 Then this sounds like a bug.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs (LXDE)

2011-05-24 Thread Tim Bernhard
I think you accidentaly forgot to reply to all so I cc'ed the list so they
can read your response below.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote:

  - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -
  I can confirm this behavior (using 64-bit ISO).
 
  Tim
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:16 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jonathan Marsden
   jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On 05/23/2011 01:33 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
   
 I'm not aware of any big crasher.
   
Right click on the Lubuntu 11.04 desktop.  Click Desktop
Preferences. In Desktop Preferences dialog box, click on the
Wallpaper mode field. Select Fill with background color only.
   
Crash!  X disappears, then lxdm shows up, your old session is
history. Worse still, sometimes (maybe one time in ten?  I can't do
it repeatedly or reliably!) lxdm does not come back, and you are
left in a text mode screen with no prompt or other obvious way to
proceed.
   
That probably qualifies as a big crasher, doesn't it? :)
   Actually, this might be related to a recent bug of X11 itself

 Its a known problem of xserver 1.10. There are several other apps which set
 background color of xorg that seem to crash xserver.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-13 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote:



 Agreed, although I'm a little puzzled by it; generally speaking 64bit
 addressing doesn't get you anything useful until you have 4GB or more
 of RAM, and most 64bit PC CPUs are multicore; run on that level of PC
 hardware, the extra overhead of GNOME or Xfce is really not all that
 noticeable/bad, IMO.  .

 Jonathan


It's because some people prefer a lightweight system with a simple UI.  I
use Lubuntu because it consumes between 1-2 watts less power than the last
version of Ubuntu I used.  As a result, I can get around 8 hours of battery
life out of my dual-core 11.6 laptop with wifi on, listening to music while
surfing the web.  But I also do a little java/grails development and I want
to use a 64-bit IDE.  I think Lubuntu has a lot to offer anyone, not just
people with low powered machines.  That's why there is interest in 64-bit.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-12 Thread Tim Bernhard
Dumb question.  Why doesn't startup disk creator recognize the 64-bit
iso?  It won't let me make a bootable usb stick.

Thanks,

Tim

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.comwrote:

 Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the
 gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If
 there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this
 is released to the public.


 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ?

 Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com a écrit :

 I'll upload it to http://phillw.netphillw.net during this evening.
 So we will have a mirror of it.

 Who will upload it to a torrent site?
 I'm eager to seed after I have it.

 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com
 kend...@peppermintos.com wrote:

 Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the
 md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis:

 http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso
 http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso

 http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.isomd5sum
 = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6

 Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing.
 Thanks.


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 gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
 Kendall Weaver  kend...@peppermintos.comkend...@peppermintos.com
 wrote:

  I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64
 Lubuntu
  11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg
 package
  that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished
 installing
  it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to
 the i386
  as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to
 test
  are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a
 Windows
  system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to
 be
  made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same
 ones
  used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.

 Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a
 script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?

 If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an
 non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-12 Thread Tim Bernhard
Not yet, but I will as soon as I get home. nbsp;



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On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Tim Bernhard lt;ohiom...@gmail.comgt; wrote:

Dumb question.nbsp; Why doesn't startup disk creator recognize the 64-bit 
iso?nbsp; It won't let me make a bootable usb stick.

Thanks,

Tim

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver 
lt;kend...@peppermintos.comgt; wrote:


Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the gauntlet 
a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If there are 
issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this is released 
to the public.




On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne lt;gi...@ubuntu.comgt; wrote:



Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ?

Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult lt;hul...@gmail.comgt; a écritnbsp;:




I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.


So we will have a mirror of it.
Who will upload it to a torrent site?I'm eager to seed after I have it.


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver 
lt;kend...@peppermintos.comgt; wrote:




Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the 
md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis:
http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso





md5sum =nbsp;f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6
Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks.






On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne lt;gi...@ubuntu.comgt; wrote:





On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400

Kendall Weaver lt;kend...@peppermintos.comgt; wrote:



gt; I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu

gt; 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg 
package

gt; that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing

gt; it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the 
i386

gt; as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test

gt; are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows

gt; system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be

gt; made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones

gt; used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.



Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script or 
did you do it manualy with a chroot ?



If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an 
non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.



Regards,

Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-12 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks Andrew.  I knew it was a dumb question.  BAD md5sum.  I was in a rush
to leave for work and didn't bother to check it.  Just got another copy,
checked the md5 and created the USB stick.  I'll test it out later and
report back if I have any issues.

Tim

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 Not yet, but I will as soon as I get home.



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 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dumb question.  Why doesn't startup disk creator recognize the 64-bit
 iso?  It won't let me make a bootable usb stick.

 Thanks,

 Tim

 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com
  wrote:

 Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the
 gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If
 there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this
 is released to the public.


 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ?

 Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com a écrit :

 I'll upload it to http://phillw.netphillw.net during this evening.
 So we will have a mirror of it.

 Who will upload it to a torrent site?
 I'm eager to seed after I have it.

 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com
 kend...@peppermintos.com wrote:

 Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify
 the md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here
 'tis:

 http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso
 http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso

 http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.isomd5sum
 = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6

 Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing.
 Thanks.


 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne  gi...@ubuntu.com
 gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
 Kendall Weaver  kend...@peppermintos.comkend...@peppermintos.com
 wrote:

  I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64
 Lubuntu
  11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg
 package
  that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished
 installing
  it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to
 the i386
  as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity
 to test
  are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a
 Windows
  system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need
 to be
  made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the
 same ones
  used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.

 Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a
 script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?

 If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an
 non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )

2011-05-05 Thread Tim Bernhard
Kendal,

I would also like a 64-bit option.  I have a dual-core machine and would
love to run 64-bit STS/Eclipse.  At the same time, I'm getting between 7-8
hours of run time on my battery.  Generally speaking, will 64-bit be more
hungry or more efficient than the same 32-bit OS?

BTW, I like your distro a lot.  I gave Peppermint One and Peppermint Ice a
whirl about the same time I tried Lubuntu.  I loved all three distros.
 Lubuntu was drawing less power than Pepperment or Ubuntu so I stuck with
it.  I still recommend Peppermint along with Lubuntu to others.  Keep up the
good work.

Tim


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 For the time being, I can go ahead and whip up a 64 bit .iso if there is
 any interest in me doing so. It shouldn't take but a couple of hours. I have
 most of one put together already as I'll need it to build the 64 bit
 Peppermint release.

 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Wed, 04 May 2011 20:38:25 -0700
 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  As well as the expected publicity and marketing benefits, at a
  technical level we would be able to use the official Ubuntu build
  infrastructure for creating our ISOs, and official test setups for
  tracking which tests have been done on which builds of Lubuntu.

 We will have also 32, 64 bits ISO, + alternate ISO, + ARM ISO (for mobile
 devices), for free :)

 Regards,
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[Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Does anyone know how to output sound through HDMI in Lubuntu?

I've done it a couple of times with Ubuntu in the past, but couldn't find
anything that would allow me to do it in Lubuntu.  There is nowhere to
adjust sound preferences that I could see.  I tried alsamixer, but didn't
see anything that would do the job.   I understand that Lubuntu is supposed
to be lightweight, but this is  a feature I would expect to find in all
modern OS.  Shouldn't we have a sound preferences in the menu like Ubuntu
has?

Tim
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Hey Chris, I'm forwarding this to the list for everyone to see.

But include it for those who want a CPU hogging screen beauty =P


LOL, that's funny.  I guess that's what I was thinking.  But maybe most
people wouldn't miss it anyway.  If it does stay I would say disable it by
default for sure.

Tim


-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
To: Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com


Screensavers are for CRT monitors, to prevent in burning of pixels. To a
lesser degree also LCD screens.
Other then that I can't think of use-cases. But include it for those who
want a CPU hogging screen beauty =P


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 14:48, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow,  I'm really surprised that the screen saver can hit a CPU that hard.
 I still think should be included as an option for those who want it, but
 maybe people really don't use them anymore anyway.  I know I haven't run one
 for years.



 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hai everyone,

 Agreed the screensaver shouldn't be energy consuming, it should be the
 opposite.
 I like Mod4 + L for locking btw.

 Cheers, Chris Druif

 I like

 2011/2/25 Marcelo Zacarias da Silva marc...@ciagri.usp.br

 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré wrote:
  The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that
 the
  default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated
 it. For
  me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only for
 slow
  machine, it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say
 it:
  lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of
 Ubuntu
  using LXDE.
 
  So, in my opinion xscreensaver should be removed and
 gnome-power-preferences
  should be in the start menu (or whatever you call :))
 

 Agreed. IMHO, running CPU intensive programs when the user is way makes
 no sense. An
 option to blank and/or lock the screen (automatically or by user request,
 like
 CTRL-ALT-L in Ubuntu) is useful (again, IMHO).


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
For me it's really three main areas.

First is battery consumption under normal use.  I want my 8 hour battery
to last a close to 8 hours, not less than 6 like it did with Ubuntu.

Second, I look at the user interface.  I hate having two task-bars when
everything I need will fit in one.  I never use a mouse so I like to keep
everything at the top of the screen because that's where my application
menus are located.   Why track all to all over the screen when you can put
all the things you use the most in one area - the upper left corner.  I also
use multiple desktops to organize my work.  LXDE does all of this for me
with very little personalization.  I had Ubuntu Netbook Remix set up this
way before, but I had to do a little more work to get it how I wanted. (And
UNR was a power hog compared to Lubuntu.)

Lastly, I don't want my OS to be a full time hobby.  Mostly I just want it
to work without having to spend much time tweaking it.  I want a live USB
installer, a sub-20 minute install and a then have a system that does all of
the basics when it's done.

That's it really.  I think both Lubuntu and Pepermint One are really close
to meeting all of MY expectations and I found that Lubuntu gets better
battery life.   Right now it is the only OS I use at home - I'm stuck with
XP at work. :(

Tim

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hai Tim,

 Welcome on the mailing-list first of all. You seem to have a pretty clear
 image in what might be efficient. You might enlighten us with your
 definition of an efficient OS. Love to hear your thoughts.

 Cheers, Chris

 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 15:10, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 What should Lubuntu do?

 I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree
 100%.  But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for
 their OS and that not everyone will use it only on older hardware (Lubuntu
 is too nice not to use it on modern hardware!)

 My main point is that Lubuntu should be for everyone and not just us
 tweakers and geekers.  I want to be able to install it on anyone's
 computer and not have to worry about what it won't do for them.

 So my question is what dose the average user expect their OS to do out of
 the box?  Pretend you are putting it on someone's  machine.  Maybe your
 mother, or the neighbor who has never used anything other than Windows.
 What will they expect?

 Here's my list:
 - be efficient (most overlooked by most OS)
 - handle music, video and Internet
 - find anything on my local network
 - download and open files properly
 - let me use it with external monitors/TV as a basic media player (HDMI
 out)
 - have basic office apps (even though I don't use them)
 - allow basic personalization (LXDE's lack of menu editor is a bummer, but
 I don't fault anyone for that.)

 Lubuntu has come pretty close to meeting my expectations.  I've had to
 tweak a little bit and I might still be missing a few things here and there,
 but overall, I love it.  The one area it blows everything else away is with
 it's efficiency.  It seems like that's the most overlooked item in all the
 other Ubuntu variants I've used.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:12 -0500
 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:




  So my question is what dose the average user expect their OS to do out
 of
  the box?  Pretend you are putting it on someone's  machine.  Maybe your
  mother, or the neighbor who has never used anything other than Windows.
  What will they expect?
 
 Don't pick on mothers.


ha, ha..



 They expect it to look and behave like Windows, especially if they have
 been to classes at the local school or college.


Let's not get too carried away!  Ha, ha. But yeah they would expect Lubuntu
to do everything Windows does and complain if it doesn't.  But I switched my
mother-in-law over to Ubuntu a few years ago.  She got used to it and now
she likes it.  So let's not give up on these poor souls.



  Here's my list:
  - be efficient (most overlooked by most OS)
 Define efficient.


See my last reply.



  - find anything on my local network
 Most people of the type you're talking about wouldn't no what a LAN is.


Yes, but they get people like you and I to set them up anyway and then we
have to show them how to use them.


  - let me use it with external monitors/TV as a basic media player (HDMI
 out)
 Had very few problems with desktop machines but, portables on the other
 hand.  They seem to be either plug 'n' play or a royal PITA.


I can't figure out how to output sound to my TV...I might have a royal PITA
in store for me.  lol


  - allow basic personalization (LXDE's lack of menu editor is a bummer,
 but I
  don't fault anyone for that.)
 Again the sort of user you're talking about rarely customises their desktop
 beyond changing the wallpaper.


I agree.  Still hoping to be able to edit menu items in LXDE as you would in
Ubuntu.  Not a deal breaker though and I don't expect anything to happen
soon.  Just dreaming.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] No sound output to HDMI

2011-02-25 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks!  I'll try that when I get home tonight.  I thought I might need to
read up on alsamixer.  I didn't know about the m switch. Hopefully this
will work.

Does anyone know off the top of their head what package I can add to gain
access to the system sound setting via the main menu?

I would like something GUI.  I'm almost positive UNR 9.10 had something in
it that I used once in a while.

Also, could such a package be included in future Lubuntu distros?

Thanks,

Tim

2011/2/25 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

  I've read about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1332261

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver

2011-02-24 Thread Tim Bernhard
Haven't screen-savers been around forever?  Should most hardware be able to
handle them?  Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further?

I sort of think that many users expect a screen-saver built into their OS. I
know my mother-in-law loves them for some reason. :)  Personally, I have no
use for screen-savers, especially since I'm concerned with maximizing
battery life.  But Lubuntu needs to satisfy all users.

Would shipping Lubuntu with xscreensaver disabled by default be a better
option?

Also, I hate screen locks on my machines.  I would NOT want my screen to
lock every time it went blank.  Having it as an option would be nice, but
not as default.

Tim


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:23:36 -0300
 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

  Lubuntu team:
 
  Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a
 good
  choice to use since it causes problems such as:
  - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order
 to
  be able to install the system.
  - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards
 the
  screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow.
  In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove
  xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my
  screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is
 done
  (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it...
 so
  it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*)
  Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen:
  lock the screen.
  So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to
 use
  that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked
  and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be
  off, you won't tell ;)
  The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager
 shuts
  off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu
 devs
  to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager.
 
  I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :)
 
 
 I think I've commented before about screen-savers.  I have never seen a
 justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if
 required..  They serve no other purpose, other than using energy,  like you,
 I either disable or remove them from my machines.  Your idea for locking the
 machine for those that require this function but, it's a bit late in the
 cycle for anything new to be implemented as feature freeze occurs at the end
 of the month.  I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing

2011-02-14 Thread Tim Bernhard
John,

Lubuntu working great for me with very little effort on my part.  I'm using
it as my only OS (though I do still have Windows 7 installed) on a nearly
new Laptop running a dual-core Intel processor with 4GB of RAM.   I settled
on Lubuntu because I get 20-25% more runtime out of my battery compared to
any other flavor of Ubuntu or Peppermint OS I have tried.  It seems to use
about 1-2 watts less Peppermint One or the stripped down Ubuntu Netbook
Remix install I was using before.

Tim

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Kristian Nordestgaard kristia...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi John,
 Welcome aboard. To me, the environment is third or second, to be honest ;).
 I find it very nice to have (old, bad) batteries last longer and I also like
 the idea of having a fully functional desktop on a computer that costs a
 fraction of what a new machine (as would be required for the mainstream
 OS's) would cost. So economics and battery life is what decides it for me -
 with the environmental effect (or more precisely, lack of effect) is an
 added bonus. As for the scientific proof of the battery efficiency - I have
 not seen it, but I think it makes very much sense because you have lesser
 and smaller processes running, simply. I hope this is of use to you and look
 forward to seeing Lubuntu on the cover of Time magazine ;)

 Kristian


 On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:16 PM, John Eischeid jteisch...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I am a freelance writing and I am researching energy efficiency and
 sustainable computing.  I installed Lubuntu on an old laptop that once
 had Windows and had gotten a very, very bad virus.  The machine was just
 sitting around my apartment, but I didn't want to throw it in the trash
 or give it to a recycling company, some of which don't actually recycle
 the machines.  I am looking for two things:

 1)  Other Lubuntu users like me.  Did the environment factor into your
 decision to start using Lubuntu?  Did you use it to bring an old machine
 back to life?
 2)  Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient.  I've
 seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof that
 Lubuntu uses less electricity?

 I'm not sure who I'll pitch this story to, assuming that there is one,
 but my previous work as been published in the New York Times and
 Scientific American.  You can find links to those clips here:
 www.johneischeid.com/clips .  You can reply to this list, or reach me at
 my personal email address:  john [at] johneischeid.com

 Thanks to everyone working on Lubuntu!  I've been very happy with it.  I
 tried Ubuntu, but it was a little too much for my old machine, which is
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [ubuntu-uk] Lubuntu

2011-02-10 Thread Tim Bernhard
Oops!  Sorry about the top posting.

Keep up the good work Lubuntu team!  You've got fans.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyway, Lubuntu's the first 'lite' Ubuntu flavour that really does the
 job oob yet is a grown-up OS which I could feel confident giving to
 non-techie charity orgs too.



 Right on!  Lubuntu hits the sweet spot that others have failed to find.

 Tim

 On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 I thought I'd forward this on, it's nice when people take the time to say
 'thanks' :)

 Regards,

 Phill.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: gazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk
 Date: 10 February 2011 15:04
 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Lubuntu
 To: Talk UK Ubuntu ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com


 By the way, thanks to whomever suggested Lubuntu for my eeePC. I've
 finally had to bite down on the fact that it can't run Ubuntu Netbook
 sensibly with a 4GB USB HD even stripping out locales and other clutter
 and constantly cleaning up apt like a madwoman.

 Xubuntu's too big as well. I tried Puppy but whilst it's a really good
 little distro for non-techie's to do web/email/office, it's a bit of a
 shag learning a slack-based distro so you can get it to do *anything*
 else - and you end up having to compile everything onto it cos the
 package handler isn't really functional yet - then the compiler breaks
 if you install it to HD! DSL is grumpyl. I was contemplating slapping
 XFCE on Debian or something but obviously that isn't going to work for
 the non-techie users. I'm really looking for something with oob
 functinality for non-tech users that can revive the clapped out PCs used
 by lots of smaller charities (besides something low-hassle for the
 eeePC).

 Lubuntu does the job, your basic web/email/office stuff oob, and I can
 get stuff I need like sshfs and nfs clients etc working on the cli in 10
 mins. Chromium gets on my nerves but I thought I'd try Midori which
 seems OK. Pity the swiftfox/swiftweasel projects seem a bit lacking in
 energy - need the functionality of FF but it just hogs ridiculous
 amounts of HD :(

 Anyway, Lubuntu's the first 'lite' Ubuntu flavour that really does the
 job oob yet is a grown-up OS which I could feel confident giving to
 non-techie charity orgs too.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] How many OSs do you use?

2011-02-09 Thread Tim Bernhard
At one point I had UNR 9.10  10.04 , Peppermint One, Peppermint Ice, and
Lubuntu 10.10 running on my laptop (along with my almost never used Windows
7 partition.)   When I received my new laptop about a month ago, I installed
Windows 7 which I have yet to use and Lubuntu which I use everyday.  So far,
I'm really pleased with Lubuntu and don't plan on switching back to Ubuntu
anytime soon.

So while I still keep two OSs, I only use one and it's Lubuntu.

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Network issue.

2011-01-06 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Fabio Silva fabio_flor...@hotmail.comwrote:

 I decided to left lubuntu and GO back to regular ubuntu. Is better wait
 then never do! Lubuntu is much faster than ubuntu, light and clean.. I loved
 but I cant make my usb work, Windows network does not work either. I tried
 many tutorials but no really help was given. Nautilus almost worked...
 I thought Lubuntu was the solution but it is more or less like Arch linux.
 It is just a distro that left many stuffs out to be lightweight, If you need
 something you must put by yourself.

 Unfortunately for people like me (beginner) it is a pain in the a**. I
 guess lubuntu will be even better than ubuntu when few thing work out of the
 box as network, USB sticks etc..

 I wish I knew how to programming to help the community but I don't :(


I had a similar issue.  Did you try this:

Network File Browsing with PCManFM

 There has been reports of PCManFM having problems displaying networked
 drives and folders correctly. This is not actually a bug but a feature where
 it allows the user to decide if this package is required for them. If you
 would like to use PCManFM to browse networked drives and folders this is
 easily accomplished by simply installing the package gvfs-backends:

  sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends



It worked for me.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE Clock Settings

2011-01-05 Thread Tim Bernhard
I agree.

Tim

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This is my first post on your mailing list and I have been enjoying the hard 
work you guys put into the Lubuntu distro. I am by far no linux expert, but I 
love how lightweight Lubuntu is and how useful it can be to bring old PC’s back 
to a realm of usefulness. nbsp;However, I did have a suggestions regarding the 
LXDE Clock settings. On a default install %R is what the clock is set at, many 
PC users are more used to the standard time that is used in Windows, on phones, 
watches and other devices. Currently military time is the standard. I would 
like to propose a change to how time is displayed on the taskbar. I think %l:%M 
%p is another format that more people are used to. Which looks like (7:37 PM ) 
when it is displayed. To find out how to do this I had to look it up, which is 
fine because I am a bit more technical. Another idea if changing the time 
perhaps a dropdown box could be used here to allow users to change the style of 
the time display. It would be much more intuitive for new users, I consider 
this another of the small “papercuts” that this Ubuntu derivative 
has.nbsp;Thanks for your time, I really do appreciate the effort you guys put 
in and will try to chime in from time to time if I have any thoughts on 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu for anyone?

2010-12-30 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks for the replies.

Steve,

I'll try to sort out the details of a few of my issues and post them in
another thread.  I think they are known issues though.  Not sure if any are
also in the latest versions of Ubuntu as I have not really used it since
9.10. (I did install 10.04 from a USB without issues though.) I prefer the
speed and long battery life I get with Lubuntu and don't plan on going back
to Ubuntu at this point.

Also the first thing I do with Lubuntu is move the panel to the top and set
it up to use icons.  It makes the most sense to me.  :)

Tim

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 On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:22:47 -0500
 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  Here is my short list:
  1. Installing from USB didn't work until I made the USB without storage.
 Isn't this a general Ubuntu problem.

  2. Grub not updating after install.
 A cock-up with the installer where os-prober didn't get installed.

  3. Chrome not opening downloads properly until I changed xdg-open.
 xdg-open does seem to be a mess in lubuntu and does need sorting

  4. Having to learn how to add menu items to lxde.
 Can you give some examples, as this is probably programs not complying with
 the freedesktop.org standard.

  5. Not being able to find my NAS from PCmanFM.
 A bit more information on this would be useful

  6. Loosing some of my changes when Lubuntu updates. (Am I doing something
  wrong here???)
 Again, some more information would be useful.

 
  I'll admit that the list isn't too bad, but keep in mind that I had to
 spend
  a good bit of time researching and implementing the solutions.
 
  So the question is what is the ultimate goal for Lubuntu.  I know you
 guys
  want it to be resource friendly.  But who is it aimed at?  The Linux geek
  who can tweak it or the average Joe who just want to be able to use it?
   Can it be resource friendly and not need tweaking? Is it just a matter
 of
  time to sort it out or a matter philosophy?
 
 The problem is, people, no matter how Lubuntu is set up out of the box not
 everybody will be happy.  As an example, I can't do with the panel on the
 bottom of the screen so move it to the top before adjusting anything else.
 Really Lubuntu has to cope with both your average Joe and your average
 geek.  The real problem, with all software, are those people that fall
 between the two groups.  In this area there are again two groups.  Those
 that would like to tweak but don't know how, so don't.  The other is those
 that would like to tweak and don't know how, but do.  These two groups are
 the ones we need to listen to in order to make things easier (more user
 friendly?).
 The main thing that comes from your missive is that Lubuntu needs to state
 it's goals louder and more clearly.  Some distros hide their weaknesses
 behind 'shiny', a lot of distros derived from Lubuntu do this.  Lubuntu
 isn't about 'shiny', it should be about functionality and this is what we
 shoul try and get across.

 Sorry if this has been a bit rambling and thanks to Tim for bringing this
 up.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu for anyone?

2010-12-30 Thread Tim Bernhard
Here are the answers to Steve's questions:

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:22:47 -0500
 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

  4. Having to learn how to add menu items to lxde.
 Can you give some examples, as this is probably programs not complying with
 the freedesktop.org standard.


http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu  I realize that this is a lxde limitation
at the present time, but it's still a pain.



  5. Not being able to find my NAS from PCmanFM.
 A bit more information on this would be useful


I just found this in the latest release notes:

 Network File Browsing with PCManFM

 There has been reports of PCManFM having problems displaying networked
 drives and folders correctly. This is not actually a bug but a feature where
 it allows the user to decide if this package is required for them. If you
 would like to use PCManFM to browse networked drives and folders this is
 easily accomplished by simply installing the package gvfs-backends:

 sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends



It worked like a charm!  It wasn't in the notes when I installed Lubuntu.
 Also, I think it would be better to include this package by default. I
think most users would assume this functionality would be standard.



  6. Loosing some of my changes when Lubuntu updates. (Am I doing something
  wrong here???)
 Again, some more information would be useful.


I lost the changes I made to xdg-open after one of the updates.  Not sure
why.

I also lost a hacked wireless module I compiled that would allow me to use a
wireless hotspot on my phone.  (Which is too bad because it worked fine up
to Ubuntu 9.10, but not with any of the 10.xx distros.)  Maybe it's
something I did wrong or it has to do with kernel updates? Like I said, I am
not an expert.




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I think that covers it for now.  Most of the stuff if more or less fixed on
this system, but I'm in the process of setting up Lubuntu on my new laptop
so I'll have to dig through a few of these issues again.  None of them are
deal beakers for me, but should I really need to dig around wikis and search
the net for this stuff?

I bet Average Joe won't bother and simply give up.

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu for anyone?

2010-12-30 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:

 Hiyas Tim,

 I'm one of the pour souls who try to keep documentation up to date :P  As
 we are also in the middle of transferring stuff over to the 'new home' for
 our information there are times it gets a little hectic (like forgetting to
 up date the new area to 10.10). Reading the release notes is always a good
 idea :)

 The comments from our user base are greatly appreciated by the team, it
 helps us work out where our time is best devoted. Thanks for your comments,
 they do get taken on board.

 Hiyas Julien, is the gvfs-backends by default going to take Lubuntu over
 the RAM and CPU usage? It has been raised a few times.

 Regards,

 Phill.


Thanks Phill,

I feel sorry for you guys who have to document this stuff.  Also to be
clear, I'm not complaining.  I'm simply pointing where Lubuntu falls short
in my opinion.   I still think it's the best Linux option out there for me
and I'm rooting for you guys.  That's why I'm throwing my opinions out
there.

Tim
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Dumb question...

2010-12-30 Thread Tim Bernhard
Does the download image on Lubuntu.net get updated?

I downloaded the 10.10 ISO I have back in October.  If I were to download
10.10 image today would it be any different?

Thanks,

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm not seeing nas?

2010-12-30 Thread Tim Bernhard
Update:  This works great!!!  Makes me very happy.

Network File Browsing with PCManFM

There has been reports of PCManFM having problems displaying networked
drives and folders correctly. This is not actually a bug but a feature where
it allows the user to decide if this package is required for them. If you
would like to use PCManFM to browse networked drives and folders this is
easily accomplished by simply installing the package gvfs-backends:

sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends

*Link to version
historyhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/maverick-changes/2010-June/001112.html
of
PCManFM*
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dumb question...

2010-12-30 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks guys.

Tim
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu for anyone?

2010-12-29 Thread Tim Bernhard
Hi everyone,

I was thinking about this the past couple of days and figured I would throw
it out there.  Does Lubuntu handle basic tasks well enough that anyone can
use it?

I've been using Ubuntu since 6.04 and by 8.04 I pretty much gave up Windows
all together.  (I keep a copy on my machine just in case, but never really
need to use it.)  I've also played around with Fedora and more recently
Peppermint and Lubuntu.  In addition, I took two Red Hat Enterprise
Linux Administrator course while finishing up my Enterprise Computer
Programming degree at a local community college.
*
*
*Despite all of that I am NOT a expert Linux user. * I prefer GUI over
command line for most tasks.  And I usually have to do a little research
when trying to solve issues with my OS.  I can do the basics in Linux, but
really not much more without Google.  So I would say I'm armed with a lot
more Linux knowledge than your typical newbie, but not really skilled at it
using it.

So here's the deal.  I've run across several issues while using Lubuntu that
have consume a little more of my time that I would have liked.  Mostly just
little things, but they have all been things that I would expect my OS to
handle out of the box.

Here is my short list:
1. Installing from USB didn't work until I made the USB without storage.
2. Grub not updating after install.
3. Chrome not opening downloads properly until I changed xdg-open.
4. Having to learn how to add menu items to lxde.
5. Not being able to find my NAS from PCmanFM.
6. Loosing some of my changes when Lubuntu updates. (Am I doing something
wrong here???)

I'll admit that the list isn't too bad, but keep in mind that I had to spend
a good bit of time researching and implementing the solutions.

So the question is what is the ultimate goal for Lubuntu.  I know you guys
want it to be resource friendly.  But who is it aimed at?  The Linux geek
who can tweak it or the average Joe who just want to be able to use it?
 Can it be resource friendly and not need tweaking? Is it just a matter of
time to sort it out or a matter philosophy?

Personally, I would like to see it stay lightweight AND handle all of the
basics at the same time.  I realize Lubuntu is young and the devs are
busting their asses on it.  I really do appreciate it, but I really believe
that details matter and I hoping the Lubuntu team agrees because I want
Lubuntu to succeed.

Thanks for listening,

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] drop box

2010-12-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
I think I have those stored on my computer at home.  I'll forward it to you
guys later.

Tim

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:06:02 +0100
 Mårten Behm marten.b...@bredband.net wrote:

  Hi,
 
  If it is of any help for an entry in the wiki, this is the slightly
 extended Dropbox.desktop file that I use in both .config/autostart and
 .local/share. The latter will make it appear in the menu (should you need to
 restart). I also attach the dropbox icon to be put in /usr/share/pixmaps.
 When the deamon starts it shows up in the system dock.
 
  [Desktop Entry]
  Encoding=UTF-8
  Name=Dropbox
  Comment=Starts the Dropbox daemon
  Comment[sv]=Startar Dropbox-demonen
  Exec=.dropbox-dist/dropboxd
  Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/dropbox.png
  Terminal=false
  Type=Application
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mårten
 
 
 Nice, all we need now is the mods to xdg-open so pcmanfm is opened, which I
 can't find.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] drop box

2010-12-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
Here is a link with the instructions I used.  I think I made the last post.
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046The only issue I have it
that it gets wiped when I get updates.  Maybe I have it in the wrong place.
  Please advise.

Also, shouldn't this be something that is set out of the box in Lubuntu?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
Here is the code:

used leafpad to edit xdg-open:

Code:

[r...@ohiomoto ~]#sudo leafpad /usr/bin/xdg-open

My changes looked like this when done and it works great with Chromium.
Code:

generic)
pcmanfm $url
;;

#generic)
#open_generic $url
#;;


On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think I have those stored on my computer at home.  I'll forward it to you
 guys later.

 Tim


 On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:06:02 +0100
 Mårten Behm marten.b...@bredband.net wrote:

  Hi,
 
  If it is of any help for an entry in the wiki, this is the slightly
 extended Dropbox.desktop file that I use in both .config/autostart and
 .local/share. The latter will make it appear in the menu (should you need to
 restart). I also attach the dropbox icon to be put in /usr/share/pixmaps.
 When the deamon starts it shows up in the system dock.
 
  [Desktop Entry]
  Encoding=UTF-8
  Name=Dropbox
  Comment=Starts the Dropbox daemon
  Comment[sv]=Startar Dropbox-demonen
  Exec=.dropbox-dist/dropboxd
  Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/dropbox.png
  Terminal=false
  Type=Application
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mårten
 
 
 Nice, all we need now is the mods to xdg-open so pcmanfm is opened, which
 I can't find.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] drop box

2010-12-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
Wow!  Thanks for the encouragement.  Maybe you would rather me use Windoz?
 You are clearly an ass.

Tim

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Andrew Woodhead 
andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you are root, you don't need to use sudo. Are you logging on as
 root? You are clearly novice with regards to access in Linux


 On Tuesday, December 28, 2010, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
  Here is a link with the instructions I used.  I think I made the last
 post.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
 
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046The only issue I have
 it that it gets wiped when I get updates.  Maybe I have it in the wrong
 place.   Please advise.
 
  Also, shouldn't this be something that is set out of the box in
 Lubuntu?
 
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
  Here is the code:
  used leafpad to edit xdg-open:
 
 
  Code:
  [r...@ohiomoto ~]#sudo leafpad /usr/bin/xdg-openMy changes looked like
 this when done and it works great with Chromium.
 
  Code:
  generic)
  pcmanfm $url
  ;;
 
  #generic)
  #open_generic $url
  #;;
  On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I think I have those stored on my computer at home.  I'll forward it to
 you guys later.
 
  Tim
 
  On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:06:02 +0100
  Mårten Behm marten.b...@bredband.net wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  If it is of any help for an entry in the wiki, this is the slightly
 extended Dropbox.desktop file that I use in both .config/autostart and
 .local/share. The latter will make it appear in the menu (should you need to
 restart). I also attach the dropbox icon to be put in /usr/share/pixmaps.
 When the deamon starts it shows up in the system dock.
 
  [Desktop Entry]
  Encoding=UTF-8
  Name=Dropbox
  Comment=Starts the Dropbox daemon
  Comment[sv]=Startar Dropbox-demonen
  Exec=.dropbox-dist/dropboxd
  Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/dropbox.png
  Terminal=false
  Type=Application
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mårten
 
 
  Nice, all we need now is the mods to xdg-open so pcmanfm is opened, which
 I can't find.
 
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] drop box

2010-12-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
and no, I was not logged on as root.  The code I put in my post was probably
copied from someone else and I simply edited it to convey what I had done.
 I guess I should have looked closer before I pasted it here.  I should have
know there would be a snob among us.

So do you want to help or should I go back to Peppermint?

Tim

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Andrew Woodhead 
andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you are root, you don't need to use sudo. Are you logging on as
 root? You are clearly novice with regards to access in Linux


 On Tuesday, December 28, 2010, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
  Here is a link with the instructions I used.  I think I made the last
 post.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
 
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046The only issue I have
 it that it gets wiped when I get updates.  Maybe I have it in the wrong
 place.   Please advise.
 
  Also, shouldn't this be something that is set out of the box in
 Lubuntu?
 
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
  Here is the code:
  used leafpad to edit xdg-open:
 
 
  Code:
  [r...@ohiomoto ~]#sudo leafpad /usr/bin/xdg-openMy changes looked like
 this when done and it works great with Chromium.
 
  Code:
  generic)
  pcmanfm $url
  ;;
 
  #generic)
  #open_generic $url
  #;;
  On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I think I have those stored on my computer at home.  I'll forward it to
 you guys later.
 
  Tim
 
  On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:06:02 +0100
  Mårten Behm marten.b...@bredband.net wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  If it is of any help for an entry in the wiki, this is the slightly
 extended Dropbox.desktop file that I use in both .config/autostart and
 .local/share. The latter will make it appear in the menu (should you need to
 restart). I also attach the dropbox icon to be put in /usr/share/pixmaps.
 When the deamon starts it shows up in the system dock.
 
  [Desktop Entry]
  Encoding=UTF-8
  Name=Dropbox
  Comment=Starts the Dropbox daemon
  Comment[sv]=Startar Dropbox-demonen
  Exec=.dropbox-dist/dropboxd
  Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/dropbox.png
  Terminal=false
  Type=Application
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mårten
 
 
  Nice, all we need now is the mods to xdg-open so pcmanfm is opened, which
 I can't find.
 
 
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  http://lubuntu.net
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] drop box

2010-12-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
It's obvious that you are not reading my replies.  I know how sudo works.
 You choose to read what you want and act like a troll.  This is my last
reply to you, so you can have the last word if you like. You need that more
than I do.

Thanks,

Tim

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Andrew Woodhead 
andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:

 Who is being an ass now?

 If you have a root tefminal, you don't need to use sudo as the root
 account already has full system access. If you need to run admin tasks
 as user then sudo is needed.

 Try to remain calm..



 On Tuesday, December 28, 2010, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
  Actually I did answer the question. No I am NOT logging on as root.  Is
 that clear enough for you?
 
  On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Woodhead 
 andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:
  It makes no difference to me what OS you use. You didn't answer the
  question either.
 
 
  On Tuesday, December 28, 2010, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
  and no, I was not logged on as root.  The code I put in my post was
 probably copied from someone else and I simply edited it to convey what I
 had done.  I guess I should have looked closer before I pasted it here.  I
 should have know there would be a snob among us.
 
  So do you want to help or should I go back to Peppermint?
  Tim
  On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Andrew Woodhead 
 andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you are root, you don't need to use sudo. Are you logging on as
  root? You are clearly novice with regards to access in Linux
 
 
  On Tuesday, December 28, 2010, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:
  Here is a link with the instructions I used.  I think I made the last
 post.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
 
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046The only issue I
 have it that it gets wiped when I get updates.  Maybe I have it in the wrong
 place.   Please advise.
 
  Also, shouldn't this be something that is set out of the box in
 Lubuntu?
 
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046
  Here is the code:
  used leafpad to edit xdg-open:
 
 
  Code:
  [r...@ohiomoto ~]#sudo leafpad /usr/bin/xdg-openMy changes looked like
 this when done and it works great with Chromium.
 
  Code:
  generic)
  pcmanfm $url
  ;;
 
  #generic)
  #open_generic $url
  #;;
  On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I think I have those stored on my computer at home.  I'll forward it to
 you guys later.
 
  Tim
 
  On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:06:02 +0100
  Mårten Behm marten.b...@bredband.net wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  If it is of any help for an entry in the wiki, this is the slightly
 extended Dropbox.desktop file that I use in both .config/autostart and
 .local/share. The latter will make it appear in the menu (should you need to
 restart). I also attach the dropbox icon to be put in /usr/share/pixmaps.
 When the deamon starts it shows up in the system dock.
 
  [Desktop Entry]
  Encoding=UTF-8
  Name=Dropbox
  Comment=Starts the Dropbox daemon
  Comment[sv]=Startar Dropbox-demonen
  Exec=.dropbox-dist/dropboxd
  Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/dropbox.png
  Terminal=false
  Type=Application
 
  Best regards,
 
  Mårten
 
 
  Nice, all we need now is the mods to xdg-open so pcmanfm is opened,
 which I can't find.
 
 
  --
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  http://lubuntu.net
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu removes windows from Grub

2010-11-22 Thread Tim Bernhard
Look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat/

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Whenever I install Lubuntu 10.10 w/a windows partition  side by side, after
 the 1st update the windows is gone from the grub menu.

 Only happens with Lubuntu and happens consistently.
 Will this ever be fixed?

 Thanks

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 10.10 RMX

2010-11-09 Thread Tim Bernhard
I agree that (most) everyone likes eye candy.  Lubuntu it should be as
light, fast and good looking as possible.  *But more importantly they OS
should plain work.*  There are a few items that don't work right now and I
think those things should be address.

I recently tried Lubuntu, Peppermint Ice and Peppermint One.  I found that
Peppermint is a little further ahead of Lubuntu. The installer works on a
USB stick, you can actually open your downloads from Chrome and seems
slightly more polished.   I don't think I had to apply one workaround on
either of my Peppermint installs.  Peppermint also boots a little faster
which is nice when you have a lightweight laptop.  Lubuntu isn't too bad in
that area, but not quit as fast.  Where Lubuntu is killing both Peppermint
installs and my tweaked UNR 9.10 in the area of power consumption!  I've
never been able to get more than ~4.5 hours of battery life from the 6 hour
battery in my Acer AS1410.  With Lubuntu I'm seeing 6+ hours!  That's why
I'm using it and that's why I will stick with it.

Tim
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 10.10 RMX

2010-11-09 Thread Tim Bernhard
I think they were reported already. I'll double check when I get back to my 
computer. nbsp;I'm new to this stuff so maybe I was in the wrong place.

Tim



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On Nov 9, 2010 1:38 PM, Julien Lavergne lt;gi...@ubuntu.comgt; wrote: 

Le mardi 09 novembre 2010 à 13:22 -0500, Tim Bernhard a écrit :

gt; 

gt; I agree that (most) everyone likes eye candy.  Lubuntu it should be as

gt; light, fast and good looking as possible.  But more importantly they

gt; OS should plain work.  There are a few items that don't work right now

gt; and I think those things should be address. 



Just report bugs : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs



We can't fixed bugs if we are not aware of them ...



Regards,

Julien Lavergne




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 10.10 RMX

2010-11-09 Thread Tim Bernhard
Jullien,

The link you posted is new to me.  I started with Lubuntu.net and followed
the link to launchpad were I found the bugs and reported that they affected
me and even reported workarounds that I had found.  But now that I'm
looking,

The three major issues I had and where I found the report.  My posts are at
the last on each bug.

1) Couldn't install from USB:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/522031 Not even sure
if this is the same issue I had.  Maybe I should have started a new one.
 Either way, I think my workaround should be added to the wiki so that it
may help others.

2) Had to add OS prober after install:  I think I suggested that in this
mailing list and it has since been added to a wiki that I can't seem to
find!!  Shouldn't it be on Lubuntu.net??

3) Chorminum doesn't open downloads properly:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/657335
 Again,
I'm not the only one who had this problem. I think the workaround should be
added to wiki and the problem should be fixed.

I will be honest.  I'm finding it hard to keep up with all of the different
places to find answers.  I don't even know how many different wiki pages
I've stumbled on and find launchpad a little overwhelming.  Seems like it's
harder to find the workarounds and answers than it should be.

I just want to find the answers I need to get my system going and a place to
share what I've learned.  I would expect the developers to look at what I've
learned and use it to make Lubuntu better. I'm not trying to be negative.
 I'm not a developer.  I joined the mailing list because I figured this is
how I can best contribute as a user.

Thanks,

Tim



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le mardi 09 novembre 2010 à 13:22 -0500, Tim Bernhard a écrit :
 
  I agree that (most) everyone likes eye candy.  Lubuntu it should be as
  light, fast and good looking as possible.  But more importantly they
  OS should plain work.  There are a few items that don't work right now
  and I think those things should be address.

 Just report bugs : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs

 We can't fixed bugs if we are not aware of them ...

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] dropbox and pcmanfm

2010-11-09 Thread Tim Bernhard
I'm not and expert, but look here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499046  pay close attention to
post #5, but look at posts 7  8 to see how us Lubuntu users needed to make
it work.  I THINK this might be related to your problem.  Just make sure you
only comment out the original entry so you can uncomment it if it doesn't
produce the desired results.

Good luck and let us know if it works.

Tim

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:34 PM, kosaidpo kosai...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello guys
 i've installed dropbox but when i clik right and choose open the
 folder it gets opened with chromuim
 so guys any tip how to open it with pcmanfm ??

 thanks

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: People having trouble with dualboots?

2010-11-02 Thread Tim Bernhard
The workaround for this issue is simple and should be included in the wiki
until the problem is solved.

To get around this run sudo apt-get install os-prober. Run sudo os-prober
and then sudo update-grub.


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:



 Begin forwarded message:

 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:00:45 +0100
 From: njin marconifa...@hotmail.it
 To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] People having trouble with dualboots?


 Il giorno mar, 02/11/2010 alle 09.08 +, Yorvyk ha scritto:
  On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 08:29:42 +
  Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  
   Hi zoltan,
   nice to hear your problem is solved now. This problem is pretty big for
 first time users and I think affects every dual-boot user. Should we post
 this (with the fix) on the lubuntu website or on a blog like OMG ubuntu?
  
  
  I’ve not had this problem, all the other (Linux) OS have been picked up
 by GRUB.  But, if others are, then the cure should be in the Wiki.
  Personally, I don’t regard OMG Ubuntu as a reliable source.
 
 Hello to all
 I've experienced this issue just yesterday.
 The installation went fine without net connection, rebooting the system
 i've got all my partition, i've done a fully update, and at the
 requested reboot (for kernel update), others partitions are not listed
 in the grub list.
 Fabio




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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: People having trouble with dualboots?

2010-11-02 Thread Tim Bernhard
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From: Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] People having trouble with dualboots?
To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com


I'm using 10.10.  Besides Lubuntu, I have Windows 7, Ubuntu 9.10 and
Peppermint One (based on Lubuntu 10.04?) installed.  None were detected when
I installed Lubuntu 10.10.  Only after installing and running os-prober did
update-grub find the other operating systems.

I also ran across another odd behavior today.  I had booted to Peppermint
One to test something.  When I did, I installed the recommended updates.
 One of the updates was grub-common.  Upon rebooting, it had reordered my
OS'es and moved Peppermint back to the top.  After rebooting to Lubuntu, I
ran os-prober and update-grub.  It appeared that my list would have Lubuntu
at the top, but when I rebooted, Peppermint was still there.  Finally I
reinstalled the grub packages via synaptic on Lubuntu.  After that I had
Lubuntu on top again.  This might be normal, but I have never run across
this issue before.

Tim

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:39:27 +
 Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
  Are you using 10.10?It only seems to be found in Lubuntu 10.10.And do you
 have a windows partition, is it found by grub?
 
 Yes
 No

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