Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
As discussed at uds, put only fital documentation on disc that gets people online so they can read it on help.ubuntu.com. 2011/5/15 Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com: er... someone blamed documentation of some sort... ah, here it is: One area where Lubuntu has gained weight is the help documentation for Gnumeric and Sylpheed, as well as the Gnome language packs. quoted from the lubuntu-desktop list archive, March, 20, 2011. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:39 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: So who is eating the spaces? Many some disk-analyzing tools are needed here. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Mikhail Maksimov mcwil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, list. I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. No it can not. Tests done on alpha3 show that the system requires at least 2000 MB (decimal M) just to install with almost no free space left. Too bad Lubuntu is no longer lightweight in terms of disk footprint. Regards, Mikhail PS I know that the original letter is two weeks old :) On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: My workaround works! Replying to myself: On 05/01/2011 12:29 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: There is a file within the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO called casper/filesystem.size but it seems to be unchanged since 2010-09-06 and I don't yet know what if anything actually uses it :) Based on Julien's very handy pointer to the commit that broke this for us, I just edited the file casper/filesystem.size in the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO image to say 137000 (a round-ish number about half the value that was previously in the file, plus 50MB as a safety margin!) and then updated the md5sum.txt file to reflect that edit, and created myself a modified ISO image from the result. That's a pretty trivial change, but, unlike the official 11.04 image, it installs and runs fine in a 3GB virtual disk, at least in my initial testing here (under VirtualBox 4.0.6). So, we seem to have a code-free workaround :) I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. I can make this hacked ISO available for download, but it is a bit 'dubious' at this point from a support point of view, since it does not 'say' anywhere in its menus etc. that I modified it! I need it to refer to itself as 11.04.jm1 or something, so it is clearly not the official Lubuntu 11.04 version, if there is going to be much use of it. If anyone has an urgent need for this ISO image, let me know. It is now 1am here, and I have to go to work tomorrow (today!!) so I don't have time to create the .jm1 identified image right now... I need some sleep :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files
Always good to have a backup. If Lubuntu becomes official soon popularity might increase. 2011/5/14 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com: Hi, I know you had a great UDS, with the kind availabilty of the new area for hosting iso's on, what do wish me to do? As torrent is always preferred, I need to update the wiki areas (especially for the new 11.04 64 bit version). I'm guessing that the new hoster becomes primary direct download site, do you still wish me to be a secondary direct download site? Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )
The Bittorrent protocol has one downside, not being able to connect simple users. the reason for this is are passive connections, where the torrent client is not directly accessible through a tcp port from the internet. active connections are those clients that did configure a port to be addressable from the internet often that requires to configure a port forward in your home router to your machine. you can make 'active - active' connections and 'active - passive' connections client - port 51413 - internet - port 65530 - client 2011/5/5 Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com: Only when I'm downloaden the uploading seems to go fast, but besides that, it seems really slow. Even thou I'm not online all the time, but should be more than 1.241 ratio. Also I can't seem to be able to upload with every torrent I've got uploading (8 linux images), even after setting upload slots to about 20. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New header
Both wiki's fit in a 1024 width screen the logo's for a new header might need to be remade anyway I think. Font size is alright with me. great job Chris What would be a small screen for you Julien ? 2011/5/2 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com: Le Monday 02 May 2011 à 17:49 +0200, Chris a écrit : I've spend the afternoon making a new, more modern header for the wiki and help pages. To check it out, head over to [1] which will show a comparison between my new and the current header. In the bottom you see the base for the new header, the UBT header. If you miss any links in the new header or have suggestions, please share them with me. I would be very honored if you wanted to use my header. Very nice :) Adding quick links to Artwork, Translation ... is a good idea. But I can't see the logos (broken links). Also, I think it's a bit too big. On small screen, it will take too much space IMO. For example, the one on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu is small enough IMO. What other people from documumentation think ? Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Beta 1 Installed
Congrats on the install, I wonder though, how big is your swap, it may be used ? 2011/4/1 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com: First the good news. Just installed Beta 1 one using the Install option from the menu and it installed on a machine with 256 MiB of RAM and on-board video. This is the first time I've been able to install Natty from a live CD with any Ubuntu disrto on this machine. All ways had to use the alternate disk. Bad news. That damn line is still across the middle of the install screen. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Beta 1 Installed
2011/4/1 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com: First the good news. Just installed Beta 1 one using the Install option from the menu and it installed on a machine with 256 MiB of RAM and on-board video. This is the first time I've been able to install Natty from a live CD with any Ubuntu disrto on this machine. All ways had to use the alternate disk. Bad news. That damn line is still across the middle of the install screen. Congrats on the install, I wonder though, how big is your swap, it may be used ? There are 3 swap partitions on the machine 384 MiB each, one on each HDD, and have been for every install. I set the drives up with GParted before anything else was installed. Not sure if the installer uses swap though. I know some don't as some distros insist on formatting swap. This is a right royal PITA as it changes the UUID and I have to alter it back so the other distros on there don't lose the swap. Try labeling the partitions and activate partitions by label -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Resignation
2011/3/30 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:53:15 -0500 Zach Kriesse zkrie...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello all, now I know that I've kinda sent an email like this before but the time has come for me to say goodbye. Recent events have occurred where I simply do not have the time to contribute nor the desire to act like I am...because that's really just lying to not only my fellow team-mates but also myself. I will leave the Doc FG for the BT to the council, and I will decide on a lead for Ubuntu Youth...I'm sorry but I need to really just work on getting back in school, finding a job, and starting a career for myself. I simply do not have the time to do anything else. It was nice to know all of you, it's been fun and awesome. Farwell -- Cheers! ~zkriesse Life does get in the way of things at times, doesn't it :) Good luck for the future. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) Zach don't be a stranger and come round from time-to-time, even just for a casual chat. I wish you good luck with finding yourself a career. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Really odd keyboard and mouse issue
Somehow I get the feeling 'scheduler' is in place here are you running a custom kernel ? 2011/3/16 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com: How often is every now and then? Once a day? Once a month? :) If it is very infrequent, you will probably need to run monitoring tools all the time, so you can catch it in the act. The computer is on 24/7 but I'm obviously not at it, so for example today it has done it 3 times while I'm at the computer already in the space of a few hours. Other days it's not at all. (1) Based on the above, I would suggest running system monitoring tools to check what else the machine is doing when it is lagging your keyboard/mouse input. htop, iotop, jnettop will do for simple text-based what is doing a lot of work on my PC checking. vmstat and iostat might be worth a look too. I completely forgot about iotop, I've been running htop and can't see anything, the CPU is idling along at 1 - 3 % (3.2 P4 Prescott) and the RAM is using around 20% (2GB). Last time I had a really weird problem with a computer it turned out to be a faulty CPU cooler connection so I've been keeping an eye to the temps and they are all fine. (2) If you are comfortable working at the command line, you could also consider running the machine with no GUI (no X) -- no LXDE stuff at all, just plain old text mode consoles) for a while. If the issue goes away, you would then suspect that whatever is causing the problem is X related in some way. With enough time, you could then start X and run just an xterm or LXterminal window and see if that lags or not... and so on... slowly building back up towards a full LXDE GUI. Knowing what was added that started the problem up again would be a very big clue. Ah I was hoping this would have been tested with the SSH because this is my main IRC, IM, Web Browsing and Email machine here at home. (3) If you have another spare test machine, try setting it up as close to identical to the first one as you can, documenting how to do that step by step. Then, see if you can reproduce the problem on the second machine too. If you can reproduce it there, you now have accurate and tested step-by-step how to reproduce information for the bug report, which could be very handy for others trying to duplicate and track down the issue :) Realistically, this kind of weird stuff happens occasionally issue is going to be hard to track down. Hopefully the above suggestions will help, if you decide you have the patience to really work on doing that. Thanks for your thoughts I have already started up iotop so I'll see how that goes. I was half hoping there would be a oh I had that problem and did this solution, but I think that was a bit of wishful thinking. I will make sure I let everyone know if I find a solution though as this is really odd. Feel free to keep the suggestions coming, it's really bugging me. Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update 27 Feb 2am)
2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: On 02/22/2011 11:55 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: Incidentally, I hope to build my first more or less Lubuntu ISO from these two scripts, hands off except for entering a sudo password, before I go to bed tonight ... That worked. After that, I set up a and downloaded a local Ubuntu repository for natty (all 59GB of it), and arranged nightly automated updates to it, and then pointed debootstrap and apt at it during the ISO creation process, to reduce my ISO creation times -- I'm now down to 12 minutes, by cheating the number of language-pack-gnome-* I use... so maybe 15mins if I undo that English-centric shortcut! Today (tonight?) I got the md5sum issue fixed (no need to edit the m5dsum.txt file by hand at all now for boot.cat, and no hex checksum strings in the script to stuff into md5sums.txt, either!). The resulting i386 ISO works for me in qemu as a livecd using qemu -cdrom lubuntu-i386-20110227.iso The checksum test now passes, and and Try it without installing lets me do basic stuff ... minimal testing only, so far :) Next likely steps are: (a) Look at why virtualbox is so unhappy with these ISO images (b) Document the script, and give it back to Julien for comment (c) Work on 64bit ISOs (will probably need work on livecd-rootfs image creation, current approach has i386-isms in it I think) (d) Work on alternate installer ISOs (e) Work on automatic daily/weekly ISO creation and publication (f) Relax, maybe? :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp I had no issue loading the install cd in virtualbox 4.0 however, the install cd might use elements from the VM guest additions for virtualbox and vmware -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update 27 Feb 2am)
2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: On 02/27/2011 02:58 AM, UndiFineD wrote: 2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: Next likely steps are: (a) Look at why virtualbox is so unhappy with these ISO images I had no issue loading the install cd in virtualbox 4.0 however, the install cd might use elements from the VM guest additions for virtualbox and vmware Interesting. This is the Lubuntu 11.04 Alpha2 CD we are talking about, right? It works for me in virtualbox 4.0.4 on Windows 7 64bit at work, but not here at home on Ubuntu 10.04.2 amd64, even though official Ubuntu natty ISOs work fine here. And someone else reported it not working for them in virtualbox. Maybe it is some configurable setting in virtualbox that breaks it? More testing needed. Thanks, Jonathan Confirmed. I just had installed VirtualBox 4.0 again, how did it ever uninstall I don't know. Then I downloaded Lubuntu 11.04 Alpha2. Installed with a fair spec'd virtual machine. There were 2 small bugs during installation. * The menu panel was right in the middle of my screen. * The installation did not properly shutdown the machine. No installation breaker though. A screenshot of installed Lubuntu. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/desktop/Screenshot-11.png -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong (UndiFineD) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] JackyAlcie
2011/2/13 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com: Hiyas Jacky, well what can I say? To be immediately elected to UBT means they have been stalking you for a while (they do have a habit of doing so). Congratultions to you and the UBT team for getting an excellent new member but also to to speechcontrol and accessbiltiy for getting another person onto the team to push the cause. For those that do yet not yet know him, he is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jackyalcine Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp A bright future for the young man from Harlem! Congratulations Jacky! -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] phillw.net
2011/2/6 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com: Hiyas, as some of you will be aware, I've had a few problems on that area. The disappearance of the lubuntu iso's and my forum upgrade getting totally borked. The are going to reset everything back to 1st Feb. I've taken backups of people's areas that I host. Please be patient, the reason it has taken so long is that the ticket was not raised for 2nd level support - They are severely unhappy about this and will be 'talking' to the members of the 1st level support team who had assured me that support tickets had been raised (Disciplinary action, as iWeb do pride themselves on their rapid support). They have been given the go-ahead now have said it will acted on promptly. Apologies for all inconvenience that this has caused, especially to those who use my forum area for classroom notes, quick links to documentation etc. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp I hope things will work out as planned, when lagging over the weekend, things may fail as a monday-morning product approved -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 660003] Re: Did not proper start gnome keyring
Hello Eric, We also have an eeepc900, but without the huawei, I have an external stick. you could install ' bum ' and make sure the modem-manager starts after nm-applet -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Lubuntu, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/660003 Title: Did not proper start gnome keyring Status in “lxdm” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Binary package hint: lxdm eric@scylla:~$ lsb_release -rd Description: Ubuntu 10.10 Release: 10.10 Could not use ubuntu-bug bout this package. Summary: Updated my eee from lubuntu 10.04 to 10.10. Now i have to reenter my umts pin every login, before the update this was done by gnome-keyring. The keyring works a bit, login to wifi works well with stored pass. --- Architecture: i386 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10 EcryptfsInUse: Yes Package: lxdm 0.2.0-0ubuntu1-henry1 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcEnviron: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.34-genusername 2.6.35.4 Tags: maverick Uname: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic i686 UnreportableReason: Dies ist kein echtes Ubuntu-Paket UserGroups: admin ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Introducing Naveen (IRC-wolfpack) as Padawan
2011/1/22 Naveen Agrawal nav.coo...@gmail.com: Hello, I am pleased to share that my Master Phill will be holding my soul, as mentor. I am blessed that I will be guided by HIS valuble knowledge experience. I am sure that I will turn into a valuable contributor to Ubuntu . Regards Naveen (wolfpack) Links 1. Launchpad account : https://launchpad.net/~nav.coder 2. Wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nav.coder ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Welcome wolfpack ! -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp