[Lubuntu-desktop] Marketing Team?

2012-01-18 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi Everyone,

As far as I remember, we didn't talk yet about The Marketing Team, did we?
or maybe the communication team will do the marketing job?

I see almost everything is set:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeamsand I hope things will be
finalized soon and everyone will start working on
his/her area which is GREAT :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Marketing Team?

2012-01-18 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Phill :)

I thought so but was in need to check :)
Oh right, it means I'm involved too as long as I'm a member of The
Communication Team :P GREAT!

Since we are talking about Marketing, I have a request or a question to
ask:
Is it possible to have T-Shirt with Lubuntu Printed on? Mugs? stuff like
that? anything I could use over here to convert people to Linux and
Lubuntu? that would be a great tool if you ask me.
I don't mind to wear that T-Shirt and walk daily and if no one will even
bother to ask, I'll talk about it :)

I have already started to talk about Linux and Lubuntu since a long time
but these days, I'm very serious to convert more people and talk more about
it.

I made this: https://www.facebook.com/WOWLubuntu but that's nothing and
won't be enough so I'm looking for person to person contact or whatever
they call it :)

I wonder if Canonical could do this? even if it's Ubuntu T-Shirts that will
do the job, I assume.

Thanks!

P.S.
I wish I could do these T-Shirts myself but that is way too much for
someone like me :P

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi Ali,

 comms will be looking after that. The Art-team do the fantastic banners
 and CD folder graphics along with their work on icons, themes etc. (Keeps
 them out of mischief :P ).

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On 18 January 2012 09:52, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 As far as I remember, we didn't talk yet about The Marketing Team, did
 we? or maybe the communication team will do the marketing job?

 I see almost everything is set: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeamsand 
 I hope things will be finalized soon and everyone will start working on
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 Thanks!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] This mailing list will be closed SOON !

2012-01-18 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
There you go:

Hi,

It's official, we have a new mailing list :)

lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

*If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
subscribe to this new mailing list (See
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).*

The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions, and
the team will be close soon.

Thanks for your attention :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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 I believe Unit193 has the link somewhere to subscribe and otherwise it's
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] This mailing list will be closed SOON !

2012-01-18 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
I have posted the reminder below on Lubuntu One Stop Thread, Lubuntu Page
on G+ and on Lubuntu Page on Facebook.

I think most of the users will be informed if not all.

@Julien
I suggest to wait until next week and then do whatever you like :) let's
give them one last chance to check their emails, etc.

Thanks!




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 There you go:

 Hi,

 It's official, we have a new mailing list :)

 lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

 *If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
 subscribe to this new mailing list (See
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).*

 The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions,
 and the team will be close soon.

 Thanks for your attention :)

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC and Dependencies Talk

2012-01-17 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA

 ACTION WIKI: find a page on the wiki about installing software not aimed
 at a certain DE. E.g. installing ktouch inside Lubuntu, hopefully with
 system impact. If that page doesn't exists create one. Please reply if
 there isn't a page on the wiki before creating a new page. This is to keep
 me up-to-date.



Honestly, I did not search yet but I have made this guide few months ago
and I think it will be handy and helpful in case there is no page on the
Wiki.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880394

Sorry, forgot to mention that earlier :)



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 Hello everyone,

 Firstly the discussion at hand: the MAIN reason why LSC was created is
 because USC is VERY heavyweight. While still having a similar simplified
 interface for installing software, it boots a lot faster. Secondly is
 Synaptic not the most intuitive way to install software. Showing a lot of
 technical (libs etc) between some of the packages you might want to
 install, LSC solves this by only showing the packages one would want to
 install and with a preview readily available. So it's not a means to only
 show packages designed for Lubuntu afaik.

 Thirdly this is a mainly a discussion in how LSC *could* or *should*
 preform, not about the wiki. When you guys have made a decision on what
 should be put on the wiki, please cc the wiki list. I could have the wiki
 group make a page about installing software in Lubuntu, referring to
 packages that depend on libs not included by default and what the impact
 could be, but their might already be a page about that on the main wiki
 which we could refer to.

 ACTION WIKI: find a page on the wiki about installing software not aimed
 at a certain DE. E.g. installing ktouch inside Lubuntu, hopefully with
 system impact. If that page doesn't exists create one. Please reply if
 there isn't a page on the wiki before creating a new page. This is to keep
 me up-to-date.

 With metta, Chris

 P.S.: Ali, you used the old lubuntu list, which will be deprecated
 shortly. I've cc'd the new list.

 On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:36, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi everyone,

 Before I reply to this post:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11613963postcount=252
 I thought it's better to start such a discussion over here so that I
 understand better and we make it clear to everyone what is really going on.

 As far as I have learned so far and I could be wrong, the Dependencies
 Talk on a Low Resources System where usually Lubuntu is installed, is more
 about Space Issue than Loaded Files on RAM issue.
 I don't have a document or something that confirm that but I do know for
 sure that as long as nothing will be loaded in RAM, the performance won't
 be affected.

 I've come across MANY questions from users like: This app has lots of
 dependencies, can I install it on Lubuntu? will that slow my system down??

 For me, I can easily reply that post saying: It's more about space
 issues than memory consuming issue + if you want, you can use the terminal
 for Synaptic.


 This is not necessarily true. Almost always, we add dependencies because
 the program needs them at runtime.
 Most of time, these deps, especially the libraries, will be loaded at
 runtime as well.
 The most important issue is how much RAM is needed by programs constantly
 running throughout the whole desktop session.
 (web browser, panel, file manager, desktop manager, session manager,
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[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC and Dependencies Talk

2012-01-15 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi everyone,

Before I reply to this post:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11613963postcount=252
I thought it's better to start such a discussion over here so that I
understand better and we make it clear to everyone what is really going on.

As far as I have learned so far and I could be wrong, the Dependencies Talk
on a Low Resources System where usually Lubuntu is installed, is more about
Space Issue than Loaded Files on RAM issue.
I don't have a document or something that confirm that but I do know for
sure that as long as nothing will be loaded in RAM, the performance won't
be affected.

I've come across MANY questions from users like: This app has lots of
dependencies, can I install it on Lubuntu? will that slow my system down??

For me, I can easily reply that post saying: It's more about space issues
than memory consuming issue + if you want, you can use the terminal for
Synaptic.

@Stefano
What do you think about specially the bold statement:

 It would be nice if the Lubuntu software centre let the user know which
 packages were also going to be installed, and also if somehow *it could
 tell the user if the package isn't really designed to go with Lubuntu*.



@Wiki and Doc Team
I think we need to highlight this issue because many are wondering and
asking the same Q over and over again.

Thank you!

P.S.
If this email is not clear, please let me know :)
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[Lubuntu-desktop] WOW Lubuntu!

2012-01-14 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Everyone,

amjjawad is back to action yet again :)
I'd like to start my activities with the new Lubuntu Sub Teams by creating
a new project called WOW Lubuntu. This project has one main target and
aim: reach to as many users as possible.
I for one think that every user who has come across Lubuntu needs to return
the favor to such great system and to do that, he/she can simply JUST TALK
about Lubuntu and SHARE his/her experience/story with someone else.

I believe this is the right time for such move and I think the more we talk
and do for Lubuntu, the more support we shall get.
Lubuntu really deserves that, thus this simple and humble project is a
little pay-back for the great and amazing system (Lubuntu).

https://www.facebook.com/pages/WOW-Lubuntu/251544618247684

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

2012-01-06 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi,

I went through the whole thread (37 emails so far) and noticed very simple
thing that I already have noticed long time ago (I know what most of you
will say) which is: we do *NOT *have accurate database of Lubuntu Users in
general and those who are still using OLD machines and I mean VERY old
here.

I like such kind of discussion and I tend to agree with some opinions and
disagree with others but after all, this is very healthy activity
(discussion) but ... as always ... the real question is: isn't it pointless
to discuss such thing without REAL figures? some guys already pointed that
out, I guess.

Long story short, my simple and humble opinion is: we need a group of
people who do a survey to obtain such figures. No, I have no smart ideas of
HOWTO do that but if we could discuss about this, that would be VERY
helpful. Perhaps we are wasting our time here and there are only 2-3 users
with such old machines? for me, Lubuntu 10.04 didn't work on this:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614 while Mint LXDE 9 did.
Both may be using the same kernel but I'm not really sure why Lubuntu
didn't work. Also, perhaps they are many users that will be affected with
that drop? so we need some figures.

Just a thought I'd like to share with all, as usual :)

Thanks!



On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Marvin Reimer therealm...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi (my first post to a Lubuntu Maillinglist),

 I also had one minor problem with the PAE kernel.
 I'm running Lubuntu mainly in VMs (because it is faster than the heavier
 Ubuntu).
 When installing Lubuntu Precise in Virtualbox I had to turn on PAE support
 in the options (this was not a dealbreaker).

 But, when installing Virtualbox Guest Additions in Lubuntu Precise, the
 headers of the PAE kernel where missing so that the Guest Additions could
 not be installed.

 I recommend to include the PAE kernel headers in the base install so that
 some non advanced users can also install the Guest Additions easily.

 Marvin

 2012/1/6 Steven sten...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6 January 2012 17:10, Steven sten...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi, I'm running Lubuntu on a non-PAE kernel too :)
 
  1.4GHz Pentium M in a Dell Latitude D505 with 512MB RAM from 2004.
 It's my
  main production machine and runs Lubuntu like a charm.
 
  I've been reading through the emails and irc logs, and it sounds like
 the
  kernel team is maintaining the non-pae kernel in Precise (but not
 beyond),
  but just not setting it as the default -- any chance someone can
 convince
  them to make the non-pae kernel the default in just Lubuntu? Colin
 Watson
  mentioned this as a possibility in the Technical Board meeting [1].
 
  -Steven
 
  [1]:
 http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-12-21.01.moin.txt
 
 
  On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
  wrote:

 Steven,

 Running a PAE kernel and capable of running a PAE kernel are a couple
 of different things. I'd honestly be surpised if that CPU wasn't
 capable of running a PAE kernel. Are you able to run the command grep
 pae /proc/cpuinfo to see if it is capable of running a PAE kernel? If
 you get any output please paste it back if you're not sure what it
 means.

 --
 Regards,

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 That command doesn't give any output:
 $ grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
 $

 It was also apparent when I ran a Lubuntu Precise daily-live CD for the
 first time the other day and got this:
 This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
 pae
 Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.

 -Steven

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Teams

2012-01-03 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Phill,

I'm up and running now. I'm sorry, didn't reply our email that you sent
previously because I've been so busy and recovering slowly. I feel better
these days and I'm sick of being idle and want to do something interesting
:)

I think it's better to reply that Email to confirm that.

Thank you!

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 The Wiki / Docs team is now created [1] please feel free to ping me if you
 wish to join!

 Regards,

 Phill.
 [1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs


 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi wxl,

 I'll go create a wiki / Doc team on lp. You'll know when it's done as I
 will add you!

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM, ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote:

  One question: would love to add myself but can't. I have no problem
 editing the Lubuntu wiki, however. What am I missing?

 wxl/walter


 On 01/02/2012 02:50 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:

 Hi,

 Following the last meeting, I would like to expose my proposal for the
 teams to everyone.

 You can find the summary on this wiki page :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams

 Currently, we have already :
 - The artwork team (Rafael and Alexander)
 - Testing / QA Team (see Phillw mail on the mailing list)
 - IRC Team (maybe not yet organised)

 If you have any comments / suggestions, feel free to answer this mail :)
 If there is no problem, we can start to work very soon with them.

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Happy New Year 2012

2012-01-01 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi Julien, Rafael and Everyone,

Happy New Lubuntu Year to ALL of you :) wish you all the best and hope
we'll keep dazzling the world in 2012 as we have done in 2011.

Thanks for the NEW Wallpaper, it's AMAZING :D

I'm so glad that I'm a part of this great team ... thank you for accepting
me in ... you'll never regret that ;)

amjjawad

http://i39.tinypic.com/6dticn.jpg

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,

 A quick mail to wish you all, a happy new year :-) 2011 was a very cool
 year for Lubuntu, let's hope 2012 will be also a happy year :-)

 Also, for people who are testing Precise, you should have, with today
 updates, a gift [1] from the Artwork Team, if you kept the default
 wallpaper ;-)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

 [1] For others, it's here :

 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-art/+junk/lubuntu-artwork/download/117/lubuntudefaultwallpa-20111231173218-l0v3jypivw1jw0wl-1/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.pnghttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-art/+junk/lubuntu-artwork/download/117/lubuntudefaultwallpa-20111231173218-l0v3jypivw1jw0wl-1/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png


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[Lubuntu-desktop] My Story in 2011

2011-12-31 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Dear All,

In few words, I'd like to share my story in 2011 with you all.
2011 was A CRAZY YEAR and fill of lots of things that can't be summarized.
I admit it was full of screws up but TWO GREAT THINGS happened in 2011 that
changed my history, present and future.

In 2011, I found the real purpose and aim of my life that I shall spend my
life time ... each year, month, day, minute, second and nano second praying
and be very much grateful for that. The Steps that I have made in 2011,
unquestionably, the best step I've ever made, period. My one and only love,
you have supported me and still do ... you have never let me down and still
do ... you have never given up on me and still do ... no words and nothing
will express how much I'm grateful to you. *Happy New Love Year to
You* 3 *THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING IN MY LIFE* :)

In 2011, my interest, activity, understanding and experience in Linux has
grown up and it became so obvious how much I like Linux and what I'm
capable to do for it. Before that, I used to like everything and anything.
Was jumping here and there with no clear aim or purpose. That vanished and
faded away the moment I did the second great step in 2011 and joined
Lubuntu Team. I've never done something so right like that. I'm quite sure
I have finally done the RIGHT step and I shall never regret it.

Long story short, I'm the Happiest and the Luckiest man on earth with these
two huge achievements and I promise I shall improve that in 2012 :)

I'd like to show my appreciation to each and every member of this amazing
family ... no doubt Lubuntu is my second family. Thank you and I'm so much
proud to be with you :)

Special thanks to very special people here: Phill, Julien and Michael, you
guys are amazing .. THANK YOU for everything :)

May this year be much better for Lubuntu and each one of us ... God bless
you all and wish you all the best in the world. Happy New Year :)

I have made this little thing ... feel free to share it. Nothing much, I
made it with Photoshop in few mins because I was in hurry :P

http://i40.tinypic.com/5mdxe.jpg

Oh yes, my 2012 will definitely be special too ;)


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki

2011-12-27 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Keeping low profile for some days is VERY boring but I won't overdo it so
one reply and I'm off :)

From what I understand:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download

If you read the above two links, you maybe a little bit confused and think
both are the same but in the matter of fact, these two installs are NOT the
same.

From the first link:

The Minimal CD will download packages from online archives at installation
 time instead of providing them on the install CD itself. Downloading
 packages at install time reduces the size of the install CD to
 approximately 5 to 30MB depending on architecture (see below), as well as
 providing only the packages needed for installation. The download time
 savings achieved by using a Minimal CD can be significant, as only current
 packages are downloaded, so there is no need to upgrade packages
 immediately after installation. The Minimal CD uses a text-based installer
 like the Alternate CD, making the CD image as compact as possible.



From the second link:

The text-based alternate installer can be downloaded from a location near
 you http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download. This installation CD is
 suited for computers unable to run the graphical desktop based
 installation, either because their computer does not meet the minimum
 requirements for the live cd or because their computer requires
 configuration after the installation is complete in order to use the
 desktop.



This link here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
May give a better understanding.

From what I understand, the mini install could be used not only for people
with low end hardware but also for those who seek simplicity and want to
build their system as per what they really need and avoid the extra stuff.
Once you have the base or the core system, you can install whatever you
want.

So, I'm with Jared and also happy to be proved wrong :)
If we are wrong, then the above two links MUST be updated and someone must
be more accurate.

By the way, last night, I was SO bored so I downloaded the mini iso and
installed it on one of my test PCs.  I managed to find a wired connection
(finally) because I always use the Wireless connection. I'm actually
planning to build a system that even lighter than Lubuntu (the one that we
all know). I'm planning to do some tests so later on I can install Lubuntu
instead of Linux Mint LXDE 9 on this:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614

By the way, YES, that laptop does work until now. At that time, Lubuntu
10.04 did not work at all and I had less experience than now. I do want to
install Lubuntu and will do whatever it takes to do that.

Thank you everyone :)
Now, logging off.


@Phill
Once I can resume my normal activities, I'm going to finish my test with
the mini install and if I managed to do what I want, I'll write a simple
guide and add it to Lubuntu One Stop Thread :) if there will be more
details then I'll write a new thread and then add it to LOST.

:)


On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I just checked our Minimal Install guide
  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall.
 
  I don't know why we use sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends
  lubuntu-desktop command to install Lubuntu. With
 --no-install-recommends
  we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update
  Manager and Preferred Applications.
 
  As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full
  Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they
  can't use Ubiquity.
  Using --no-install-recommends could make newbie confused when their
  desktops almost have nothing.
 
  Regards,
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 My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is
 correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then
 why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal
 installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand
 the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not
 wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a
 really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't
 want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the
 other stuff anyway?

 I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding
 and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver

2011-12-24 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA

 1 thing I will change for 12.04 is to change the behavior by default,
 using *only a blank screen instead of the animated one*. It should be
 nicer for your type of configuration.


+1



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 Le 12/23/2011 10:16 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit :
  It has been pointed in the past, that for old machines Xcreensaver
  makes everything sluggish (i can make proof of it because some
  installations of Lubuntu have crashed because it tries to launch
  xcreensaver and everything falls apart AND in my pentium 3 @1000mhz
  the first thing i cut is the screensaver because it slows the whole
  system)
  If I remember correctly, drop xcreensaver was a bad idea just for the
  blocking screen.
  I've been using a little Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm wondering if they still
  use a screensaver at all. Maybe they are using something different
  just to block the screen?
  If yes, maybe we could use the same thing and cut xcreensaver from
  Lubuntu.
 
 They are using compiz to lock the screen, so we can't use the same :)
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Super Key

2011-12-24 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi,

Open your Home Folder and Press Ctrl+H

Find this: */.config/openboxlubuntu-rc.xml*

All Key bindings are all there :)

I'm on Lubuntu 12.04 and the Menu shows up if I press the Super Key.

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 not getting this behaviour on my lubuntu laptop :(
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Super Key

2011-12-24 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Sorry, its:
 */.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml*

Path is:  */.config/openbox*
File is:* **lubuntu-rc.xml*


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 Hi,

 Open your Home Folder and Press Ctrl+H

 Find this: */.config/openboxlubuntu-rc.xml*

 All Key bindings are all there :)

 I'm on Lubuntu 12.04 and the Menu shows up if I press the Super Key.

 On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset 
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Merry Christmas :)

2011-12-24 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
To The BEST Team Ever,


Merry Christmas to you, wish you ALL the best in the world and may ALL your
dreams and wishes come true, AMEN!

This is the first time I join a Software Team that work so hard to develop
the most amazing OS that is Lubuntu. I'm proud to be here and so glad that
I can call myself a member of this great family :)

Happy Holidays and thanks for accepting me as a member in this wonderful
team!
I promise I shall carry on with what I have started and will do my best to
support Lubuntu, The Team and The Users.

YOU ARE THE BEST 3

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-23 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi Lance,

Finally I can tell who is* kansasnoob* :)

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I saw it before (but honestly did not read it
all) and I just read it now.

One thing I'm in doubt about it:
I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the
updates and upgrades (
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I
want to use zsync that I already installed. *From my understanding to all
this, I just need to do this*:

zsync
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync


From Terminal and that is all, right?

Now, as per your post that you mentioned (
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4) and as per
this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage ... zsync will NOT
update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso
so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a
CD and Install all over again, right? I just need to double check and make
sure we are in the same page :)

Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do:

sudo apt-get upgrade

and

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


Isn't that enough?

Sorry of my questions are so silly but I'm very new in testing. Last time I
tested Lubutnu 11.10 Beta 2 and that was for 10 days or more so didn't
learn much stuff at that time. I'm very much willing to learn and
understand more at the moment.

Thank you in advance and I wish whatever I do will help Lubuntu and Lubuntu
Users. Yes, I know I did nothing yet but I'm doing my best.

Regards,
amjjawad/A.J


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4

 If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom,
 actually almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to
 burn a new disc!

 I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in
 any way I can.

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 Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
 To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM


 Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
 I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18
 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing
 from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?

 Hope it's clear now :)

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk 
 yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
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 On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
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  Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
 
  Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
 download
  the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it
 stand
  true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
 how
  often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
  daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
 much
  except waiting - any other website will be slow.
 
 Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
 have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
 whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium.

2011-12-22 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi,

I'm not an advanced Linux user but I know there is a difference between
these two (aptitude and apt-get) and personally, I've stopped using
aptitude since 10.04.

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal



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 Hi guys,

 one for the those who like the subtle differences between apt-get and
 aptitude.

 Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively
 different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1] of the
 output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a look at it,
 it's way beyond my limited expertise!

 Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

2011-12-21 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello PCMan,

We had two HP Laptops at home, both are Pavilion DV6 (Windows 7) and DV5
(Ubuntu 10.04). The overheating problem was there for both except DV6 was
working while DV5 was shutting down even though we are using two cooling
fans.

I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update. As
for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I
have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux.

As far as I know, BIOS is controlling the Fan Speed and if there is no
hardware failure (fan is still working) then, as in my case, the BIOS
update will fix that.

Just a thought but in your case, it might be something else. Check the fan
and see if it's working. Try to buy a cooling fan if you don't have one
already.

Hope that helps!

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 Hi list,
 I have a long-standing unresolved issue on my Thinkpad R60 laptop.
 My Lubuntu gets overheat and performs shutdown automatically frequently.
 This happens since ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04 and I never suffered from this
 issue.
 Recently, the overheat problem became more and more severe and I'm not
 able to use Ubuntu sometimes.
 Switching to Windows xp and Vista fixed this problem. The temperature was
 quite low under Windows.
 I did some google search and found that it's a notorious problem of ubuntu.
 Unfortunately, I did not find any good solution to this.
 When I compile programs and browse web pages/documentations at the same
 time,
 the load of my laptop gets high and it becomes overheated easily.
 So recently I mainly use Windows xp.
 Please help if anyone has the right solution for this.
 Otherwise I have difficulty keep using Lubuntu and do programming under
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04

2011-12-21 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Jean-Pierre,

I'm one of those who actually avoid Wubi. It could be helpful but the
headache afterward is a lot sometimes :)

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650699

IMHO, one can always try another alternative but that's me and YMMV :)



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 One thing I would like to see in Lubuntu, is the presence of Wubi.
 I've wanted to show some friend/familiars/co-workers how Lubuntu rocks
 but the only way i get is by livecd... and they want to try it a little :)
 Wubi is a GREAT option for a lot of people (myself included since i have
 only one hard drive and original windows is installed on it ;)

 Is this possible?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)

2011-12-17 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Julien,

Thank you so much for your reply :)

1- I'll put this topic for discussion in the next team meeting. I would
 like to set up teams, and the Marketing team is one of them.


That would be great. We do need such team which should NOT be isolated from
Ubuntu Team (sorry if I didn't explain myself previously). The Marketing
Team Members are Lubuntu Members who will be dedicated to do one main
job/task and that will be Marketing.

Also, we do need a Wiki or Documentation Team.



 2- On http://ubuntuforums.org/, I'm not sure there are dedicated forum
 for Kubuntu, Xubuntu ... Using tag seems to be useful, because some
 requests / questions may apply to all the derivatives.


No, on Ubuntu Forum, there is no dedicated Sub-Forum for the other variant
(Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu or Lubuntu) but instead, there is Prefix
Feature: http://i52.tinypic.com/i2ks2s.jpg

I totally understand and actually SUPPORT the idea of keeping Lubuntu as it
is on Ubuntu Forum but I'm not really sure whether having a Sub-Forum on
Ubuntu Forum for Lubuntu is a good or bad idea?
Ubuntu Forum has many Sub-Forum (Absolute Beginner Talk, General Help,
Hardware and Laptops, Multimedia and Video, Desktop Environment, etc) and I
was just wondering how good or bad if Lubuntu will have a Sub-Forum just
like the other Categories? we are NOT isolating it, we are just Organizing
it. As long as it will have Clear and Obvious Category, everyone can jump
in and help. I see lots of posts from people who are not Lubuntu Users but
they are willing to help and I see that daily, not to mention those who
help out with testing :)

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888933

What about a Sub-Forum on LXDE Forum? if that's possible, it would be great
since I'm a moderator there. However, someone must do something please
about the continuous problem on LXDE Website. It's up and down and when
it's up, it's very slow.


3- Canonical doesn't provide direct financial support, unless they have
 financial interest :) They already provide various support, by giving us
 access to some services, seehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedDerivatives for
 details.


What I'm thinking and wondering about: Having more resources depends on
money or something else? also, if we are an official variant for Ubuntu
then it's not bad idea at all if Canonical spend something to improve
Lubuntu in any possible way. I have no idea how their system work and to be
honest don't want to be involved, I have enough stuff to care about but I
was just wondering.
I'll keep searching for people who can really support us financially. In
case I find someone, what shall I do?


4- Using indicator-session-gtk2 + the indicator applet of lxpanel should
 work. The support for indicators in Lubuntu is not perfect, some of them
 have need Ubuntu / GNOME components to run properly.


Well, I think there is a bug using these on both Lubuntu 11.10 and 11.04.
On 11.10, adding the above two packages will not add the username. Adding
the username must be done through indicator-me which is gone in 11.10 and
no longer in the repositories.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/ubuntu-11-10-menu-goodbye/

As for 11.04, indicator-me package is still in the repositories but when I
added it and rebooted, it's done and on PCManFM, there is no File, Edit,
etc ... I have no idea what happened.

There is already some bugs and I commented on one of them but can't find it
right now.
I have asked that question because there is a case where there are 3
different users are using the same PC and they want something to display
the name of the current logged in user beside a feature to switch to
another user.
indicator-me package has 126 files to be downloaded and installed. I was
wondering if it's impossible to use indicator me in 11.10, is there any
other alternative?


Thank you :)

@Everyone else who replied, thanks a lot and I'll get back to you shortly :)



On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  Le 12/16/2011 05:20 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :

 1- I'm thinking about a Marketing Team which will be dedicated to Lubuntu
 Marketing and its members will focus ONLY on Marketing. As always, I'm
 willing to contribute and join but I just thought to propose the idea here
 and SO SORRY if this is not the right place to do that :)

 I'll put this topic for discussion in the next team meeting. I would like
 to set up teams, and the Marketing team is one of them.


  2- What are the chances of having a dedicated Forum JUST for Lubuntu? or
 maybe a Sub-Forum either on Ubuntu Forum or LXDE Forum? needless to say I'm
 more than up to this but again, I'd like to propose the idea here.

 On http://ubuntuforums.org/, I'm not sure there are dedicated forum for
 Kubuntu, Xubuntu ... Using tag seems to be useful, because some requests /
 questions may apply to all the derivatives.


  3- Lubuntu is an official variant of Ubuntu now

[Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)

2011-12-16 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello everyone,

Long story short:

1- I'm thinking about a Marketing Team which will be dedicated to Lubuntu
Marketing and its members will focus ONLY on Marketing. As always, I'm
willing to contribute and join but I just thought to propose the idea here
and SO SORRY if this is not the right place to do that :)

2- What are the chances of having a dedicated Forum JUST for Lubuntu? or
maybe a Sub-Forum either on Ubuntu Forum or LXDE Forum? needless to say I'm
more than up to this but again, I'd like to propose the idea here.

3- Lubuntu is an official variant of Ubuntu now. Regarding the funds and
stuff like that, is Canonical taking care of that? what if I find someone
who can denote or help us financially?  I understand it's free OS but I'm
working on that ... I'm looking for someone to denote or help us
financially.

4- Like GNOME 2.xx (say Ubuntu 10.04), how can I add my username to the
panel? is there anyway? in Ubuntu 10.04, I can see my username on the top
panel but how hard or easy is it to do the same on Lubuntu?


That's all for now.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

2011-12-15 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA

 Sometimes, the solution you provide may hide a real bug. I'm ok than
 some issues doesn't have to be reported on launchpad. *But it's important
 to use launchpad*, *developers look at launchpad, not the forum*.
 And it's possible that a solution provided can be included directly in
 Lubuntu, to be available for everyone :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne



Hello Julien,

As always and forever, thanks for your reply. I'm very much aware of the
fact that *developers look at launchpad, not the forum* and I'm also aware
of how important to use Launchpad (obviously since the developers don't
look at the forum). However, I was just sharing my opinion and stating what
I think :)

Now, back to topic ... is there any real solution/fix to the issues I sent?
I need to get back to the users and from my side, I have nothing to offer
(unfortunately) except asking for the team help. Someone with better
knowledge than myself can probably jump in to help OR send the solution
here and I'll post it there. What I do care about is helping those users.
One of them was waiting for 6 months without a single word from anyone.

May I re-post the threads here again?

*Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31200
I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
installation - 32 bit.

*

Issues with lxdm in Lubuntu:*
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31470


*Downloading LXDE:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31467
Please note that I'll handle this case but I'm just reporting that so LXDE
Team will look at this issue on LXDE website.


*Disable middle click tab close in LXTerminal: *
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31247


If the real solution to all the above issues is advising the users (OPs -
Original Posters) to report these issues to Launchpad, then please confirm.
Otherwise, I'll be waiting for some answers to them :)

Thanks and keep the good work up, you rock!


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Le 12/13/2011 09:15 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
  Most of users, including me, start their searching for a solution or
  seeking for support journey from the  forums, of course after doing
  some Google Search (which in most cases direct them to one of these
  forums). IMHO, reporting a problem on Launchpad should be done if
  there is NO Real Solution/Fix to a particular issue OR it's an obvious
  bug (but again, how can we tell whether it's a bug or not?).
  For a small (BUT GREAT) team like us (Lubuntu), reporting issues on
  Launchpad directly without checking the forum will add extra work to
  the developer and above all, on forums, you probably could find a
  solution easier and faster. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think.
 Sometimes, the solution you provide may hide a real bug. I'm ok than
 some issues doesn't have to be reported on launchpad. But it's important
 to use launchpad, developers look at launchpad, not the forum.
 And it's possible that a solution provided can be included directly in
 Lubuntu, to be available for everyone :)

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

2011-12-15 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Phill,

I'm glad to see you back to action ;)

Thanks for your reminder but yet again, I'm very much aware of that note *(*
*Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the forums)** *but
thanks, your reminder is highly appreciated.

Two things I'd like to highlight to be extra clear *(seems my emails are
not very clear on the mailing list like my posts on the forum):
*
1- I was asking for Lubuntu-Team's Help to assist those users who have
problems. Now, whether these problems are bugs or not, that's another story
:)

2- NOT everyone on the mailing list, Phill. NOT everyone has Launchpad
account. Those who have posted on LXDE Forum, in most cases, their posts
are the first post they ever make/create, not to mention that in most
cases, they don't even know about Ubuntu Forum. Above all, some are still
confusing between LXDE and Lubuntu. They think the system is called LXDE
which is obviously WRONG.

Having that said, ALL what I have asked was helping those users. That is
all. I have NO idea whether these cases on these threads are bugs or not?
that's why I asked for some help over here :)
As I wrote to Julien, if ALL the cases on these threads are bugs, please
confirm so that I'll communicate that to the users as I have promised to
help them :)

If what you are saying that I need to advice them to either use the mailing
list and/or launchpad instead of the forum (LXDE Forum or Ubuntu Forum)
just because the developers will look at the mailing list and launchpad but
NOT the forums then this is totally a different story.

Your email (reply) is understood, hope mine will be too :)

P.S.
Cases are:

*Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31200
I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
installation - 32 bit.

*
Issues with lxdm in Lubuntu:*
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31470

*Downloading LXDE:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31467
Please note that I'll handle this case but I'm just reporting that so LXDE
Team will look at this issue on LXDE website.

*Disable middle click tab close in LXTerminal: *
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31247





On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi ammjjawad,

 can I simply repeat what Julien says. As a tester for *buntu +1 series, we
 have a forum area at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=412 It
 clearly states at the top..

 *Ubuntu +1 (Precise Pangolin)*
 This forum is for the discussion of the development of the next version of
 Ubuntu (Precise Pangolin). Precise is in development and will be released
 in April 2012. Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the
 forums, to report a problem found in Precise please report the bug in
 Launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug.

 The important part being that

 *Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the forums*
 *
 *
 bugs should be reported via LaunchPad, if some one is unsure, then they
 should ask on the mailing list. These two methods of contact are read by
 the Developers. This applies to both +1, current and previous releases.

 Regards,

 Phill.

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Le 12/13/2011 09:15 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
  Most of users, including me, start their searching for a solution or
  seeking for support journey from the  forums, of course after doing
  some Google Search (which in most cases direct them to one of these
  forums). IMHO, reporting a problem on Launchpad should be done if
  there is NO Real Solution/Fix to a particular issue OR it's an obvious
  bug (but again, how can we tell whether it's a bug or not?).
  For a small (BUT GREAT) team like us (Lubuntu), reporting issues on
  Launchpad directly without checking the forum will add extra work to
  the developer and above all, on forums, you probably could find a
  solution easier and faster. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think.
 Sometimes, the solution you provide may hide a real bug. I'm ok than
 some issues doesn't have to be reported on launchpad. But it's important
 to use launchpad, developers look at launchpad, not the forum.
 And it's possible that a solution provided can be included directly in
 Lubuntu, to be available for everyone :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

2011-12-15 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
What can I say? YOU ARE AMAZING :)
Thanks a lot, I appreciate that.

As for:
*Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31200
 I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
installation - 32 bit.

If you can reproduce it, and produce a step-by-step way to reproduce it,
 it's a bug to report, probably under obconf package if understand correctly
 the problem.


Yes, it's so easy to reproduce that. I'll send more details later because
it's too late now here :)



On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  Le 12/15/2011 03:09 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :


 *Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31200
  I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
 installation - 32 bit.

 If you can reproduce it, and produce a step-by-step way to reproduce it,
 it's a bug to report, probably under obconf package if understand correctly
 the problem.


  *

  Issues with lxdm in Lubuntu:*
 http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31470

 It's because lxdm doesn't support those features.
 But it should be fixed in 12.04 shortly, using lightdm.



  *Disable middle click tab close in LXTerminal: *
 http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31247

 As far as I know, this feature doesn't exist. You can report a feature
 request on LXDE bug tracker :
 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=180858atid=894872
 Lxterminal maintainer is active, so he may be able to add it :)

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne




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[Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

2011-12-13 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi Everyone,

Feel like I haven't sent anything in ages :)

I have noticed some threads that need some attention. Recurring issues with
no REAL fix. Not to expect much from my side as some of these issues are
not a real problem for me. However, these issues might be a real problem
for others.

I'll post the threads and hope someone has a real solution or at least a
final answer to these and ... as always ... your support is highly
appreciated and thanks in advance :)


*Window Position:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31200
I do have the same issue by the way - Lubuntu 11.10 from a normal
installation - 32 bit.

*

Issues with lxdm in Lubuntu:*
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31470


*Downloading LXDE:* http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31467
Please note that I'll handle this case but I'm just reporting that so LXDE
Team will look at this issue on LXDE website.


*Disable middle click tab close in LXTerminal: *
http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31247


That's all for now but I might need more help soon with more threads.
I'm having some personal issues over here and I'm having hard time ... it's
really hard to help others and solving your own problems but I'm enjoying
something at least (which is kind of a relief) and I do hope I can go back
to my activities. I miss the mailing list :P

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

2011-12-13 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Gabriel,

Good to see you still active over here :)

I THINK that some of those problems is better if they report at Launchpad,
 and not at the forum.



Most of users, including me, start their searching for a solution or
seeking for support journey from the  forums, of course after doing some
Google Search (which in most cases direct them to one of these forums).
IMHO, reporting a problem on Launchpad should be done if there is NO Real
Solution/Fix to a particular issue OR it's an obvious bug (but again, how
can we tell whether it's a bug or not?).
For a small (BUT GREAT) team like us (Lubuntu), reporting issues on
Launchpad directly without checking the forum will add extra work to the
developer and above all, on forums, you probably could find a solution
easier and faster. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think.

I understand nothing is perfect but it's good to pursuit for perfection.
One of the cases, the user was waiting for 6 months with no answer. He/She
moved to XFCE and that honestly bothered me. LXDE is good, in fact amazing
but definitely needs more care and support.

Thanks!




On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello amjjawad and everybody!

 I THINK that some of those problems is better if they report at
 Launchpad, and not at the forum.

 Taking advantage of this email, I will comment on a problem at
 LxLauncher. It is the unchangeable blue wallpaper that I believe
 that everybody knows about. But I think I am the only one who uses the
 LxLauncher and everybody have more important things to do at the
 LXDE/Lubuntu project.

 I don't have the knowledge to fix that, so I'm translating what needs
 to be translated (LSC, for example) and waiting the day that someone
 will have the time to change what needs to be changed at LxLauncher.
 =]

 att,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-13 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18
I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from
time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?

Hope it's clear now :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
 
  Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
 download
  the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it
 stand
  true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
 how
  often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
  daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
 much
  except waiting - any other website will be slow.
 
 Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
 have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
 whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java

2011-12-04 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi there,

I don't use it nor need it :)
Someone already posted on my thread that Lubuntu FAQs (Wiki) need to be
updated according to the link I mentioned (
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html)
Since I have never used JAVA on Linux, I'm asking those who are using it to
check whether we need to update our Wiki or not?

So, again, please double check this:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html

and if necessary, update this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java

I didn't update the Wiki because I'm not sure because I don't use Java :)

Thanks :)



On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Andrew Woodhead 
andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 4 December 2011 19:11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 As per this:

 http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html

 The below is no longer valid:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java
 .

 Is that true?
 I didn't want to change it myself unless someone confirms that.

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 If you want sun java use:

 cd
 wget http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/7/jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz
 sudo apt-get -y install unp
 unp ./jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz
 rm ./jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz
 sudo mkdir /usr/lib/jvm
 cd /usr/lib/jvm
 sudo mv ./jdk1.7.0 .
 tar zxvf ./jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz
 rm ./jre-7u1-linux-i586.tar.gz
 sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java
 /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/bin/java 71
 sudo update-alternatives --config java
 cd /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
 sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so .

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Sun/Oracle Java

2011-12-04 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
I do agree with all what have been said/written.

With all the honesty in the world, I don't like the Wiki Pages.
Why?

1- I've been told it MUST be the main source of our information while there
are LOTS of missing information already, NOT to mention it is not organized
nor up to date.

2- One can't find what he/she is looking for easily.

3- The whole structure is bad IMHO.

4- When I tried to contribute to the Wiki Area, I have heard NOTHING but
bad negative and rude attitude so I decided NOT to touch it any more and
take care of Ubuntu Forum as that is where I belong.

5- There is NO dedicated team to maintain our Wiki

Perhaps these are the main reasons.

Again, to be honest, I have another thoughts and different approaches and
I'm having hard time to explain myself over and over again. Thus, I have
decided weeks ago to remain silent and do my job quietly.
I'm doing well on the forum and I'll keep it up, period.
I have so much plans to help Lubuntu Users on the Froum. Writing guides and
more.

I couldn't remain silent anymore.

I can't deny I do have my own style that is different big time than
everyone's style in this team but since this is a Team Work more than
anything else, I'm trying my best to learn more about this team, even more
than learning about Lubuntu which I breath daily.

I'm here as always and ready to help and take our Wiki to the next step but
WE do need to talk and discuss, period.

:)

Excuse my approach, I just couldn't resist.





On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:56 AM, ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 12/04/2011 02:26 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
  On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:43:15 +1000
  Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 5 December 2011 06:17, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:
  So, again, please double check this:
 
 http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
  and if necessary, update this:
 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java
  This is the very big problem I see with having a separate FAQ to the
  main information on the wiki. Unless it's specific to Lubuntu I really
  don't see why it should exist on our FAQ area at all. All this does is
  duplicate information AND reduce the number of people working on a
  topic. This is a perfect example because the proper Java page [0] was
  updated a while ago to reflect the changes.
 
  So my opinion is, unless it's specific to Lubuntu we should contribute
  and rely on the community documentation for *Ubuntu instead of trying
  to carve out our own little niche that will easily be out of date and
  hard to maintain with fewer resources. (To answer your question my
  suggestion would be to remove the java section altogether, if you HAVE
  to have something, link to the main page for Java).
 
  [0] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
  Couldn't agree more Jared.  Repeating the same information over and over
 in different places is not helpful.  Users who aren't quite sure what their
 problem is end up 'not seeing the wood for the trees.'  This is the sort of
 thing a decent index is helps with.
 to me, this begs the question of why we have a FAQ at all. there's no
 reason there shouldn't be an LXDE-specific section to the general
 Ubuntu wiki as it is relevant to LXDE. how many people have you come
 across that run LXDE in Ubuntu rather than doing Lubuntu? it's often a
 gateway to officially making the switch.

 my problem with the main wiki is that it is often so GNOME-centric,
 it's not always apparent whether or not something is truly applicable to
 Lubuntu. so if we updated it for Lubuntu, there would be ONE place to go.

 always the revolutionary,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

2011-11-30 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi,

First of all, don't be sorry, English is not my first language too :)

Yes, I do understand now, thanks for explaining :)
Honestly, I'm not sure how to do that? perhaps if you can login
automatically without a password? I haven't tested that.

For me, I think the password is very important but I understand it's a
personal opinion :)



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

  No, I want to say that now the behavior is normal (my screen doesn't
 lock, with or without screensaver), excepted when my pc set in sleep mode :
 after sleep, my screen is locked. And I would want that my screen never
 locks. Do you understand ? I'm really sorry for my bad English...



 Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is locked
 after some period of time?
 If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me.


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

  After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer with
 the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ?


  Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
 Please, try to check that option Lock Screen After from xscreensaver
 main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your
 mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and
 uncheck Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.

 As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
 could be irreverent in your case.
 I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.



 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

  No, I didn't fix it.

 I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I
 made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.

 But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen
 locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am
 not sure that my screen locks.



 Hello Pierre,

 I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back
 again.

 As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:

 http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg

 There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
 when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
 you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
 Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
 xscreensaver :

 http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

 In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even
 with the two processes of xscreensaver.

 Not really sure how to fix your issue?

 Did you manage to fix it?

 Thanks!



 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

 Hi,

 Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !

 By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver.
 This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp.

 Regards,
 Pierre Gobin




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

2011-11-30 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
I still think in my humble opinion that the password is very important
but that's me :)

Have you checked this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM

I have not tested or tried that but perhaps this will give you what you
want.

I'll try my best to find some time and try it but no promises as I'm having
some personal issues I'm busy with at the moment.

Let me know if you need anything else :)

You most welcome, I did nothing much :)



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

  Yes, I understand that it can be important, but in this case, I'm the
 only one who has access to this PC, so password isn't needed. But I will do
 with it :)

 Thanks for your help !

 Regards,
 Pierre GOBIN

  Hi,

 First of all, don't be sorry, English is not my first language too :)

 Yes, I do understand now, thanks for explaining :)
 Honestly, I'm not sure how to do that? perhaps if you can login
 automatically without a password? I haven't tested that.

 For me, I think the password is very important but I understand it's a
 personal opinion :)



 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

  No, I want to say that now the behavior is normal (my screen doesn't
 lock, with or without screensaver), excepted when my pc set in sleep mode :
 after sleep, my screen is locked. And I would want that my screen never
 locks. Do you understand ? I'm really sorry for my bad English...



 Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is
 locked after some period of time?
 If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me.


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

  After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer with
 the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ?


  Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
 Please, try to check that option Lock Screen After from xscreensaver
 main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your
 mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and
 uncheck Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.

 As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
 could be irreverent in your case.
 I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.



 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

  No, I didn't fix it.

 I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I
 made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.

 But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen
 locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am
 not sure that my screen locks.



 Hello Pierre,

 I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be
 back again.

 As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:

 http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg

 There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
 when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
 you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
 Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
 xscreensaver :

 http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

 In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even
 with the two processes of xscreensaver.

 Not really sure how to fix your issue?

 Did you manage to fix it?

 Thanks!



 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

 Hi,

 Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !

 By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in
 XScreenSaver. This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks
 after slepp.

 Regards,
 Pierre Gobin




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

2011-11-30 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
I'll do the same, thank you :)



On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

  I already use autologin ;) I will go on looking after a solution, and I
 will say you if I find it !


 Le 30/11/2011 13:07, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :

 I still think in my humble opinion that the password is very important
 but that's me :)

 Have you checked this:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM

 I have not tested or tried that but perhaps this will give you what you
 want.

 I'll try my best to find some time and try it but no promises as I'm
 having some personal issues I'm busy with at the moment.

 Let me know if you need anything else :)

 You most welcome, I did nothing much :)



 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

  Yes, I understand that it can be important, but in this case, I'm the
 only one who has access to this PC, so password isn't needed. But I will do
 with it :)

 Thanks for your help !

 Regards,
 Pierre GOBIN

  Hi,

 First of all, don't be sorry, English is not my first language too :)

 Yes, I do understand now, thanks for explaining :)
 Honestly, I'm not sure how to do that? perhaps if you can login
 automatically without a password? I haven't tested that.

 For me, I think the password is very important but I understand it's a
 personal opinion :)



 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

  No, I want to say that now the behavior is normal (my screen doesn't
 lock, with or without screensaver), excepted when my pc set in sleep mode :
 after sleep, my screen is locked. And I would want that my screen never
 locks. Do you understand ? I'm really sorry for my bad English...



 Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is
 locked after some period of time?
 If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me.


  On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

  After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer
 with the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ?


  Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
 Please, try to check that option Lock Screen After from
 xscreensaver main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that,
 move your mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver
 and uncheck Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.

 As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
 could be irreverent in your case.
 I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.



 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

  No, I didn't fix it.

 I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I
 made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.

 But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my
 screen locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without
 sleeping, I am not sure that my screen locks.



 Hello Pierre,

 I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be
 back again.

 As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:

 http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg

 There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working
 so when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and
 take you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. 
 However,
 Lock Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option
 from xscreensaver :

 http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

 In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even
 with the two processes of xscreensaver.

 Not really sure how to fix your issue?

 Did you manage to fix it?

 Thanks!



 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.frwrote:

 Hi,

 Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !

 By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in
 XScreenSaver. This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks
 after slepp.

 Regards,
 Pierre Gobin




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

2011-11-29 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Pierre,

I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back
again.

As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg

There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
xscreensaver :

http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even with
the two processes of xscreensaver.

Not really sure how to fix your issue?

Did you manage to fix it?

Thanks!



On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !

 By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver.
 This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp.

 Regards,
 Pierre Gobin




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

2011-11-29 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
Please, try to check that option Lock Screen After from xscreensaver
main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your
mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and
uncheck Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.

As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
could be irreverent in your case.
I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.



On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

  No, I didn't fix it.

 I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I made
 sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.

 But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen
 locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am
 not sure that my screen locks.



 Hello Pierre,

 I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back
 again.

 As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:

 http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg

 There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
 when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
 you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
 Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
 xscreensaver :

 http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

 In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even
 with the two processes of xscreensaver.

 Not really sure how to fix your issue?

 Did you manage to fix it?

 Thanks!



 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !

 By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver.
 This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp.

 Regards,
 Pierre Gobin




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-11-29 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Julien,

I was unable to open this: http://91.189.93.73
Site is blocked by my ISP and anyway it doesn't seem a valid IP address
anyway.

Another thing: I understand testing in Virtual Machines (VirtualBox) is
SAFE but will that be the same as testing on real installation?
For someone like me who has spare PC and/or HDD, I don't think it will be a
problem but for someone who doesn't have, I think VirtualBox comes in
handy. Am I right?

I had some personal issues and problems in real life so not sure if I'll be
active in Testing but will do my best.

Keep up the good work and thanks for all your efforts :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

2011-11-29 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Are you saying that you disabled the screensaver and your screen is locked
after some period of time?
If that is what you mean then No, it doesn't happen with me.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

  After a few tests, my screen is only locked after Sleep, no longer with
 the only screensaver. Do you have the same behavior after sleep ?


  Sometimes, thinking about the simplest step/solution could be helpful.
 Please, try to check that option Lock Screen After from xscreensaver
 main window and wait until the screensaver starts. After that, move your
 mouse or press any key and type your password, to go screensaver and
 uncheck Lock Screen After option. Let's see what could happen.

 As for the two processes, I was just mentioning what I do have and that
 could be irreverent in your case.
 I think it's a bug but maybe I'm wrong.



 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

  No, I didn't fix it.

 I have two processes of xscreensaver too. I killed one of them, and I
 made sure that Lock Screen option was unchecked : my screen still locks.

 But are we in the same case ? I'm talking about the fact that my screen
 locks after sleep ; maybe it is a normal behavior ? Without sleeping, I am
 not sure that my screen locks.



 Hello Pierre,

 I'm glad to know that. Please let me know if the same issue will be back
 again.

 As for the Screensaver, while I was checking, I found weird thing:

 http://i43.tinypic.com/2m2jdcj.jpg

 There are two Processes of xscreensaver and both of them are working so
 when you stop it and go to your desktop, the other one will work and take
 you back to the screensaver so you need to stop it once more. However, Lock
 Screen in my case works ONLY when I force it. I unchecked that option from
 xscreensaver :

 http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

 In my case, Lock Screen After is unchecked and I have no issues even
 with the two processes of xscreensaver.

 Not really sure how to fix your issue?

 Did you manage to fix it?

 Thanks!



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 Hi,

 Your solutions works for me. Thanks a lot !

 By Lock Screen After, I was talking about the option in XScreenSaver.
 This option isn't checked on my system, but my screen locks after slepp.

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

2011-11-28 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi Pierre,

You welcome!

I had a similar issue and a friend of mine has suggested few steps that
apparently fixed the issue. There you go:

1- gksudo leafpad /etc/pm/config.d/config

2- SUSPEND_MODULES=your_driver

As per this:

*-network
   description: Wireless interface
   physical id: 1
   bus info: usb@1:5
   logical name: wlan1
   serial: 5c:d9:98:9e:57:ae
   capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
   configuration: broadcast=yes *driver=r8712u* ip=192.168.1.54
 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg



SUSPEND_MODULES=*r8712u*

3- Be sure to proofread carefully, save and close leafpad.


If the above steps did not help, please let me know so we can try another
steps.


Sorry but what do you mean by:

Otherwise, Lock Screen After is unchecked...


Sorry for the late reply, I had problems with my Internet Connection (ISP
issue).

Thanks!



On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Pierre Gobin pierre.go...@sfr.fr wrote:

 Thanks for your answer.

 Here is the output of sudo lshw -C network :

 *-network:0
   description: Ethernet interface
   product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
   vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
   physical id: 4
   bus info: pci@:01:04.0
   logical name: eth0
   version: 10
   serial: 00:17:31:2d:ac:e5
   size: 10Mbit/s
   capacity: 100Mbit/s
   width: 32 bits
   clock: 33MHz
   capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt
 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
   configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too
 driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32
 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
   resources: irq:19 ioport:c400(size=256) memory:cdeff800-cdeff8ff
  *-network:1
   description: Ethernet interface
   product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
   vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
   physical id: a
   bus info: pci@:01:0a.0
   logical name: eth1
   version: 10
   serial: 00:1e:2a:c9:75:ed
   size: 10Mbit/s
   capacity: 100Mbit/s
   width: 32 bits
   clock: 33MHz
   capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt
 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
   configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too
 driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32
 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
   resources: irq:22 ioport:c800(size=256) memory:cdeffc00-cdeffcff
  *-network
   description: Wireless interface
   physical id: 1
   bus info: usb@1:5
   logical name: wlan1
   serial: 5c:d9:98:9e:57:ae
   capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
   configuration: broadcast=yes driver=r8712u ip=192.168.1.54
 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg


 Otherwise, Lock Screen After is unchecked...

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

2011-11-28 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Same like Tim, I have the same thing here. However, I don't really care
whether I get a pop up message or not because my PC does NOT shutdown at
all (have tried many thing but it does not shutdown unless I press and hold
the Power Button).
However, it's good to have such option *BY DEFAULT*!

Thanks :)

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 I just tested the power button on my laptop with a fresh 11.10 install and
 I did nothing.  I added the lines to the lubuntu-rc.xml file and it worked
 after rebooting the system.

 Thanks Gabriel.

 Tim


 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Then I think we should change the lubuntu-rc.xml instead of installing a
 new app.
 If the functionality is already is available, then that should be the way
 I think.

 With metta, Chris


 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote:

 Am 28.11.2011 12:42, schrieb Chris:
  Does it give that window for asking what action you want to perform?

 Thats exactly what it does


  2011/11/28 Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.com
 
  I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
  I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:
 
  keybind key=XF86PowerOff
  action name=Execute
  commandlubuntu-logout/command
  /action
  /keybind
 
 
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  2011/11/28 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com
 
  Some  users requested here:
 
  http://120linux.com/lubuntu-el-boton-de-encendido-no-funciona/
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

2011-11-28 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA

 Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.


Go Julien, GO! :D



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 Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.

 Regards,
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  I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
  I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:
 
  keybind key=XF86PowerOff
  action name=Execute
  commandlubuntu-logout/command
  /action
  /keybind
 
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] power button

2011-11-28 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
I do that every day but because I know what I want to do, I didn't care
about any pop up message that would ask me what do I want?

I have installed Lubuntu 11.10 on Lenovo G570 Core i5 2nd Generation with
4GB RAM. I didn't have the time to play with it but I'm planning too. That
would be my first time to use/try Linux on a Laptop.
I guess I'll need these stuff with the laptop :)


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 Funny how something so simple could go undetected by so many.  I guess
 most of us just don't use the power button on our machines.  Ha, ha...



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 Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.


 Go Julien, GO! :D




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 Good catch ! :) I'll add it for precise.

 Regards,
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  I don't know if it is the same thing, but after I install the Lubuntu,
  I go to the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml and add these lines:
 
  keybind key=XF86PowerOff
  action name=Execute
  commandlubuntu-logout/command
  /action
  /keybind
 
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few problems with Lubuntu 11.10

2011-11-27 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA

 With Lubuntu 11.10, my wifi USB key is disconnected after sleep, and I
 have to unplug and plug the key again. A solution ? Maybe it is a problem
 for Ubuntu in general.


Hello Pierre,

Would you please post here the output of:

sudo lshw -C network


After that, I'll write to you the steps you need to follow. I do have a USB
Wireless Adapter too and used to have many issues but not anymore.


Also, I have unchecked the option to lock the screen in XscreenSaver, but
 my screen still locks (and the screenlock is not very beautiful).



http://i39.tinypic.com/6nr2c1.jpg

Just make sure Lock Screen After is unchecked/not selected.



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 have to unplug and plug the key again. A solution ? Maybe it is a problem
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 Also, I have unchecked the option to lock the screen in XscreenSaver, but
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-15 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA

 I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting
 on the 23th.


If that's 7:00pm GMT time, it means it's 11:00pm my time. My time is +4
GMT. If that's the case, I'm ok with that. I don't care about the day, all
are the same to me, just the time what is important.

Thanks!

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 Hi,

 One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting on
 IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's needed.
 I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do it
 less often in the future, if it's not necessary.

 Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it
 during the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and
 Internet connection :)

 I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because
 it's the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after
 some time (like 3 months).

 I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting
 on the 23th.

 It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when
 you have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

2011-11-15 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Chris,

12AM is great for me as I'm a Batman and don't really sleep at that time
unless I'm forced to :)

Thanks!

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aloha Ali,

 Seeing the Fridge [1] or better put it's calender [2] already has it's 7
 PM UTC slot filled did Julian suggest to take the 8 PM UTC (or GMT) slot.
 That would make it 12AM for you Ali.
 By the way, my vote is also for wednesday.

 With metta, Chris

 [1] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
 [2] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/


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  I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting
 on the 23th.


 If that's 7:00pm GMT time, it means it's 11:00pm my time. My time is +4
 GMT. If that's the case, I'm ok with that. I don't care about the day, all
 are the same to me, just the time what is important.

 Thanks!

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 Hi,

 One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting
 on IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's
 needed.

 I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do
 it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.

 Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it
 during the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and
 Internet connection :)

 I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings, because
 it's the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it after
 some time (like 3 months).

 I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC, starting
 on the 23th.

 It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt when
 you have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the
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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu 11.10] It's my turn to report some issues

2011-11-15 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi,

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ekss1v.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2gwfb55.jpg

On Desktop.
Usually it happens when I drag and drop files from desktop to a new folder
on desktop.
Re-producible? YES.
First time? NO.
Happened before? YES, with Lubuntu 11.04 many times.
How to fix it? I logout or restart. When it happened few mins ago, I had to
logout twice.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

2011-11-15 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Phill,

Hope you are doing fine!



 you need to assure our team that you are in for lubuntu for *the long term
 * and not just some college / university project.



Luckily, I'm done with College/University since 2004 :)
Above all, what does it look like I'm doing? sorry if that will sound rude
but if I want to leave Lubuntu, do you think after all the negativity I've
seen so far, what would stop me from leaving? why after each and every time
I feel someone is blocking me, I do give more and more?

*The right Question is:* Does Lubuntu Team want and accept someone with
VERY HIGH Energy like me? does Lubuntu Team accept someone who breathes,
drinks, and eats Linux and Lubuntu? does Lubuntu Team accept someone who is
enjoying what he's doing to the maximum for the first time in this entire
life (I do have a life but never done something I enjoy as much as I enjoy
what I'm doing right now)?
I'm different, Phill. In case you don't know me yet, please allow me to
share this simple fact with you and everyone here. I'm different from those
you have seen who faded away. I'm what they call exception. I do hate to
talk or write much but I'm sure you can see what I'm doing. However, I feel
so bad because there are much to do and I'm still at the very beginning.

*Short version to the above is:* *YES*, I'll be the pain in everyone's neck
here :P I'm here for the long term. Is that all? :)


May I, on a personal note, also warn you against something that my mentor
 warned me upon. Burnout, whereby you work too many hours that cannot be
 sustained (which you have already pretty much said you have done), and your
 not wishing to have a mentor (experienced person) help you. If you run
 yourself to death, or just decide to leave lubuntu the Lubuntu team will
 have to pick up the pieces. Please, my young friend, take your time - we
 have seen burn out before.


Where I came from, if someone is older than me by one year, I must respect
him. Above all, regardless of anything else, I do respect everyone here.
Your advice is very much accepted and respected. I do appreciate that
indeed. Glad there is someone who cares about other members :)

Now, please be sure that I have someone who is taking good care of me and
knows when to stop me. Also, it's true that I'm stubborn but I do listen so
I took your advice and didn't reply you right away.

I enjoy what I do, period. However, I'll take it easy.

As for running myself to death ... well, when it's my time then it's time
time no matter what and that's not something I do have control over.
As for leaving ... yet again, that's is way beyond impossible ;)
As for not wishing to have a mentor, I prefer to talk about that later, not
now :)

Thank you Phill and hope you'll be back to the UK safely :)

Ali/amjjawad




On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:

 Hi Amjjawad,

 for major stuff on lubuntu.net you need to speak to Mario. I have seen
 chats, you need to assure our team that you are in for lubuntu for the long
 term and not just some college / university project. Whilst this may seem
 harsh, so many have done it over the years  teams / threads / projects
 have all gotten the pain of projects being abandoned. Please do not think
 we are being negative, just that like all F/OSS projects we have had people
 come and go.

 May I, on a personal note, also warn you against something that my mentor
 warned me upon. Burnout, whereby you work too many hours that cannot be
 sustained (which you have already pretty much said you have done), and your
 not wishing to have a mentor (experienced person) help you. If you run
 yourself to death, or just decide to leave lubuntu the Lubuntu team will
 have to pick up the pieces. Please, my young friend, take your time - we
 have seen burn out before.

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On 12 November 2011 20:34, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks A. Andjelkovic :)

 We'll start working hopefully soon and get back to you all :)




 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:35 PM, A. Andjelkovic 
 andjelko...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Go for it guys :). If you bring up good ideas, together with mockups,
 your ideas will most likely go through. We all work together and
 constructive criticism is important.*

 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Martin Olesen skovproduk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi everybody.
 
  Thanks for letting me join the group. I am Mörgæs from Ubuntuforums,
 and I
  have been a full-time Buntu user since 5.10. I don't expect people to
  understand Icelandic, so let me first of all reveal that the name means
  penguin - though we don't have them around here.
 
  As you may have seen already, I have some ideas for a new web site:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945postcount=205
  I shall save you from the full explanation. You will see a demo later,
 as I
  believe in show it, don't tell it. Long story short: I am focusing on
  receiving the beginner having Windows background and the intermediate

[Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

2011-11-12 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi there,

Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945postcount=205

This guy (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075) has offered
his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team about
that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful.

Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website, PLEASE
do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website.
www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing OS,
it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your plans
but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to
update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all.

This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it.

So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do love
Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others do
that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what will
happen if you do what others are suggesting?

Now, I'm not going to reply
mörgæshttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075but one of the team
who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO.

Thank you so much!

ALL HAIL LUBUNTU!

P.S.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

2011-11-12 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Thank you for your reply, Yorvuk :)

I'm very much aware of what you wrote but what we all need to be aware is
one simple fact. Lubuntu is growing bigger and if we won't be as fast as
its growth, well, I'm afraid we won't be able to catch up with that.

Having the said, and because I do believe in ACTIONS more than words, I'd
like to inform everyone that Myself and Martin (mörgæs) are willing to help
each other and start a small Marketing Team which will take care first of
all about our website and that will be the very first beginning and that is
exactly what Lubuntu Needs (what the website needs).

I need to hear back from you ... what do you think? since everyone busy
with real life, Me and Martin are willing to help with the Website.

Thank you!

P.S.
Martin has already joined the team so:

Hello and Welcome Martin to a *NEW WORLD* where *Wings* and *Speed of
Light*are your basic tools to explore this astonishing, exceptional,
unbelievable, remarkable and stunning master piece we do call *L*ubuntu



I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
 mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
 overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
 people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
 very small and very busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put
 the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked
 due to real life.


On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:30:02 +0400
 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi there,
 
  Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply:
 
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945postcount=205
 
  This guy (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075) has
 offered
  his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team about
  that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful.
 
  Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website,
 PLEASE
  do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website.
  www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing OS,
  it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your plans
  but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to
  update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all.
 
  This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it.
 
  So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do love
  Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others do
  that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what will
  happen if you do what others are suggesting?
 
  Now, I'm not going to reply
  mörgæshttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075but one of the team
  who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO.
 
  Thank you so much!
 
  ALL HAIL LUBUNTU!
 
  P.S.
  I'll inform him (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075)
 that
  I sent his post and waiting for a reply.
 
 I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
 mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
 overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
 people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
 very small and very busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put
 the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

2011-11-12 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi Phill,

Can I take that as a YES and GO for me and Martin to start working on our
little project to improve the website?

Thanks!

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi amjjawad,

 As you will be aware, hosting for lubuntu,net has only just been gotten
 again. The site was exceeding the bandwidth allowance. As has been
 mentioned previously, please make some mock ups so that the site controller
 can look into how they could be implemented.

 Regards,

 Phill.


 On 12 November 2011 17:31, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for your reply, Yorvuk :)

 I'm very much aware of what you wrote but what we all need to be aware is
 one simple fact. Lubuntu is growing bigger and if we won't be as fast as
 its growth, well, I'm afraid we won't be able to catch up with that.

 Having the said, and because I do believe in ACTIONS more than words, I'd
 like to inform everyone that Myself and Martin (mörgæs) are willing to help
 each other and start a small Marketing Team which will take care first of
 all about our website and that will be the very first beginning and that is
 exactly what Lubuntu Needs (what the website needs).

 I need to hear back from you ... what do you think? since everyone busy
 with real life, Me and Martin are willing to help with the Website.

 Thank you!

 P.S.
 Martin has already joined the team so:

 Hello and Welcome Martin to a *NEW WORLD* where *Wings* and *Speed of
 Light* are your basic tools to explore this astonishing, exceptional,
 unbelievable, remarkable and stunning master piece we do call *L*ubuntu



 I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
 mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
 overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
 people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
 very small and very busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put
 the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked
 due to real life.


 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:30:02 +0400
 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi there,
 
  Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply:
 
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945postcount=205
 
  This guy (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075) has
 offered
  his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team
 about
  that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful.
 
  Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website,
 PLEASE
  do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website.
  www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing
 OS,
  it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your
 plans
  but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to
  update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all.
 
  This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it.
 
  So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do
 love
  Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others
 do
  that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what
 will
  happen if you do what others are suggesting?
 
  Now, I'm not going to reply
  mörgæshttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075but one of the team
  who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO.
 
  Thank you so much!
 
  ALL HAIL LUBUNTU!
 
  P.S.
  I'll inform him (mörgæs http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=939075)
 that
  I sent his post and waiting for a reply.
 
 I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
 mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
 overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
 people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

2011-11-12 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Thanks A. Andjelkovic :)

We'll start working hopefully soon and get back to you all :)



On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:35 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote:

*Go for it guys :). If you bring up good ideas, together with mockups,
 your ideas will most likely go through. We all work together and
 constructive criticism is important.*

 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Martin Olesen skovproduk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi everybody.
 
  Thanks for letting me join the group. I am Mörgæs from Ubuntuforums, and
 I
  have been a full-time Buntu user since 5.10. I don't expect people to
  understand Icelandic, so let me first of all reveal that the name means
  penguin - though we don't have them around here.
 
  As you may have seen already, I have some ideas for a new web site:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945postcount=205
  I shall save you from the full explanation. You will see a demo later,
 as I
  believe in show it, don't tell it. Long story short: I am focusing on
  receiving the beginner having Windows background and the intermediate
 user
  having Ubuntu (but not Lubuntu) background. Also, the site should have a
  clear hierarchy indicating what is important to the user right here,
 right
  now, and what can be left for later.
  For now I just ask for an indication like yes, we would like to
 experiment
  and consider a new wording on the web side. If on the other hand the
  general opinion is that the site can not be improved, there is no point
 in
  going further.
  I expect to be working together with Amjjawad. Our scope is text and
 layout,
  and later on we would be happy to work with someone capable of graphics
 and
  illustrations.
  So, what do you say?
 
  Regards
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-12 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Yes, I do remember but have you seen the long list of dependences that come
with it? :)
I'm afraid with 242MB RAM, I may not get what I really want - just a
thought.


On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:53 AM, leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 As I mentioned it before ksysguard is the only tool that gives numbers
 that are reasonable. The other way would be going into /proc and check it
 manually



 -- Gesendet von meinem HP Veer

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 Am 12.11.2011 21:49 schrieb amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com:

 Hi everyone,

 Being little sick and having problems with sleeping, I wasn't able to do
 much regarding the test. Above all, I'm having different readings using
 some of the tools which have been mentioned here. I'm not sure what to do?
 each tool is having different readings than the other. I'm mainly using
 LXTask and GNOME System Monitor. Each one is showing different process for
 example LXTask is showing 3 process for Chromium while GNOME System Monitor
 is showing 5. Firefox as always will be shown as one process or two
 sometimes (plugin-container).

 I think there must be a better efficient tool to do this benchmark. I
 don't think it should be done manually.

 I'll keep looking ...

 Thanks!

 P.S.
 Just thought to update you about that.


 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comwrote:

 Guys,

 With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
 debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
 I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
 but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
 voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
 mean, they should agree about that.

 EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep
 Lubuntu as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow
 Ubuntu's Steps.
 Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
 could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
 Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
 many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
 own information.

 I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
 with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
 default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.

 I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not do
 some tests and send the report via mailing list?

 As many already mentioned, it's apt-get install and mission
 accomplished.
 IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.

 I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to you:

 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
 everyone.


 I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and I
 could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't disrespect
 is my motto :)

 Cya



 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote:

 Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
  Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather
 This
  is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.
 Isn't that the same ?
 I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
 I guess that is a low machine.
 If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.

  Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
 such
  personal opinions out of this discussion.

 If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
 ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
 experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
 arguments.
 And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
 advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.


  Google is dropping H264 support:
 
 http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html

 Google Chrome != Chromium

  Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
  sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
  available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
  it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.

 At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
 tab cannot crash the whole browser.

  While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
  web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
  than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
  source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
  nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
  continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
  different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-12 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
With LXTask and GNOME System Monitor opened along side with a browser, that
was already slow. I haven't tried the app you suggested so I was JUST
wondering, that is all :)

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:01 AM, leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 What has the ram size todo with the harddisk space the app and it
 dependencies use ?




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 Yes, I do remember but have you seen the long list of dependences that
 come with it? :)
 I'm afraid with 242MB RAM, I may not get what I really want - just a
 thought.


 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:53 AM, leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 As I mentioned it before ksysguard is the only tool that gives numbers
 that are reasonable. The other way would be going into /proc and check it
 manually



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 Hi everyone,

 Being little sick and having problems with sleeping, I wasn't able to do
 much regarding the test. Above all, I'm having different readings using
 some of the tools which have been mentioned here. I'm not sure what to do?
 each tool is having different readings than the other. I'm mainly using
 LXTask and GNOME System Monitor. Each one is showing different process for
 example LXTask is showing 3 process for Chromium while GNOME System Monitor
 is showing 5. Firefox as always will be shown as one process or two
 sometimes (plugin-container).

 I think there must be a better efficient tool to do this benchmark. I
 don't think it should be done manually.

 I'll keep looking ...

 Thanks!

 P.S.
 Just thought to update you about that.


 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comwrote:

 Guys,

 With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
 debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
 I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
 but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
 voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
 mean, they should agree about that.

 EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep
 Lubuntu as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow
 Ubuntu's Steps.
 Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
 could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
 Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
 many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
 own information.

 I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
 with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
 default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.

 I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not
 do some tests and send the report via mailing list?

 As many already mentioned, it's apt-get install and mission
 accomplished.
 IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.

 I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to
 you:

 1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
 2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
 everyone.


 I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and
 I could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't
 disrespect is my motto :)

 Cya



 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote:

 Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
  Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather
 This
  is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.
 Isn't that the same ?
 I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
 I guess that is a low machine.
 If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.

  Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please
 keep such
  personal opinions out of this discussion.

 If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
 ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
 experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
 arguments.
 And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
 advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.


  Google is dropping H264 support:
 
 http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html

 Google Chrome != Chromium

  Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
  sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
  available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
  it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.

 At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
 tab cannot crash the whole browser.

  While I'm not a Google-hater, I

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Tracking progress (was: Re: [Lubuntu 12.04] My Suggestions)

2011-11-12 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi Jonathan,



 This mailing list is more likely to be seen and responded to by Lubuntu
 developers than forum threads, IMO.


I do respect your opinion and I do understand what you are saying and I
also see your point but ... have you checked how many users have actually
posted over that thread? and they are still doing that on daily basis? I
hope you do :)

Plus, when I posted over there, I could simple have done it here but I did
that over there to be just like them and be one of them and add my voice to
their voice. Being a member of Lubuntu (NO, I'm not a developer - too bad
I'm not) and be so close to users IS IMHO VERY important, period.

I did that I did as a Lubuntu User. Please, don't look at it as a feedback
or suggestion from a fellow member of the same team :)


Please don't make extra work for our scarce and overworked developers :)


Sorry but don't really know what to comment here so I'll remain silent.
Sorry if my suggestions caused any confusion and/or delay, my bad.

Thanks a lot :)

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote:

 On 11/12/2011 12:38 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:

  *My suggestions*:

  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11447159postcount=94
 
  *Original thread*: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442
 
  In case I want to add more, shall I update my post or send them through
  this email?


 This mailing list is more likely to be seen and responded to by Lubuntu
 developers than forum threads, IMO.

  If there is any kind of updates about 12.04, please let me know. Thanks!


 Please don't make extra work for our scarce and overworked developers :)

 Instead, if you are interested in tracking progress towards Lubuntu
 12.04, please login to the wiki and read the wiki page at

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/P-Plan

 then click the Subscribe button so you are emailed about all changes
 to that page.

 Then, subscribe to each of the Lubuntu 12.04 blueprints on Launchpad, so
 you will automatically get emails as they are updated.


 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-lubuntu-p-users-experience


 is one such blueprint, I can't seem to find the others right now, I
 think that there should (theoretically) be one each for the clean
 house and organization parts of the plan too.  Maybe Julien can
 provide pointers to those for us.

 Thanks,

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[Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE Forum

2011-11-11 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello everyone,

Yet again, http://forum.lxde.org is so slow and not responsive at all. I
have a friend in another country with a high Internet speed connection so I
asked him to test it and he confirmed the website is SO SLOW so it's not my
PC or connection.

Is there anything wrong? some kind of maintenance? in case there is any, is
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can know at least what is going on?

Please check and update us.

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2011-11-11 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi there,

It's a bit better but yet slow.

No, we have not. I'm not sure how to do that.

Thanks!

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Benny Hult hul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Works okay from my phone with 1Mbit HSDPA connection.
 Sounds more like a routing problem.

 Have you or your friend with high speed internet connection tested
 this with traceroute?amjjawad HOOHAA kirjoitti 11.11.2011 12:45:

 Hello everyone,

 Yet again, http://forum.lxde.org is so slow and not responsive at all.
 I have a friend in another country with a high Internet speed
 connection so I asked him to test it and he confirmed the website is
 SO SLOW so it's not my PC or connection.

 Is there anything wrong? some kind of maintenance? in case there is
 any, is there any way that we can be informed? a banner maybe or an
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-09 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA

 Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
 such personal opinions out of this discussion.I think we can all agree that
 both Firefox and Chromium are rich in features.
 We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
 Chromium, use the least resources.
 We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
 browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
 *Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather
 This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.*


Could NOT agree more :)
Well said!

I second this:

 *Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather
 This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.*


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote:

 Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
 such personal opinions out of this discussion.
 I think we can all agree that both Firefox and Chromium are rich in
 features.
 We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
 Chromium, use the least resources.
 We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
 browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
 Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather This
 is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.

 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On 9 November 2011 06:03, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

  In my view Chromium offers still better features than firefox. Just look
  at the HTML5 capabilities it just beats firefox here with in my view
  important things just like HTML5 videoplayback (H264 is supported)

 Google is dropping H264 support:
 http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html

  or the fact that every browser tab in chromium is running as a different
  process in a sandbox which makes a crash of one tab not concerning for
  other tabs.

 Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
 sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
 available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
 it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.

  All in all I am in flavor of Chromium as its still faster and offers the
  better features.

 That's a bit subjective as Firefox also offers unique features: It's
 possible to run a few hundred tabs in Firefox; the design of
 Chromium's tabbar makes that much more painful in Chromium. Firefox
 has a much more powerful addon framework (although Chromium may
 improve this next year). The user has more control over his data with
 Firefox Sync than with Google's version.

 While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
 web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
 than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
 source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
 nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
 continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
 different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
 the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
 supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-09 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Ok, on the PC where I'm planning to do the test, the reading of both LXTask
and GNOME System Monitor are equal now :)

http://i39.tinypic.com/10ym7me.jpg

I don't know what is wrong with my Lubuntu 11.04? it's acting crazy
recently.

Will try to do the test today and will let you know :)


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
 such personal opinions out of this discussion.I think we can all agree that
 both Firefox and Chromium are rich in features.

 We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
 Chromium, use the least resources.
 We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
 browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
 *Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather
 This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.*


 Could NOT agree more :)
 Well said!

 I second this:

 *Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather
 This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.*


 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote:

 Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
 such personal opinions out of this discussion.
 I think we can all agree that both Firefox and Chromium are rich in
 features.
 We are simply trying to find out which browser, out of Firefox and
 Chromium, use the least resources.
 We want to chose the lightest of the two to be our out-of-the-box web
 browser, whatever users prefer to use after that is simply an apt-get away.
 Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather
 This is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.

 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On 9 November 2011 06:03, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

  In my view Chromium offers still better features than firefox. Just
 look
  at the HTML5 capabilities it just beats firefox here with in my view
  important things just like HTML5 videoplayback (H264 is supported)

 Google is dropping H264 support:
 http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html

  or the fact that every browser tab in chromium is running as a
 different
  process in a sandbox which makes a crash of one tab not concerning for
  other tabs.

 Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
 sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
 available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
 it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.

  All in all I am in flavor of Chromium as its still faster and offers
 the
  better features.

 That's a bit subjective as Firefox also offers unique features: It's
 possible to run a few hundred tabs in Firefox; the design of
 Chromium's tabbar makes that much more painful in Chromium. Firefox
 has a much more powerful addon framework (although Chromium may
 improve this next year). The user has more control over his data with
 Firefox Sync than with Google's version.

 While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
 web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
 than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
 source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
 nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
 continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
 different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
 the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
 supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-09 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Guys,

With all due respect to EVERYONE, I'm not sure if this
debate/discussion/argument is even healthy or not any more?
I know we, as Lubuntu Team Members, must discuss between us first of all
but we must not forget about one simple fact ... USERS have the louder
voice IMHO. I do believe that such choice must first be made by users. I
mean, they should agree about that.

EVERYONE, and I mean everyone on Ubuntu Forum is asking us to keep Lubuntu
as it's and to improve it to be even better BUT NOT TO follow Ubuntu's
Steps.
Everyone is aware that Mint is Rank 1 now on Distrowatch. Who knows what
could happen? Do you guys know how many users has moved from Ubuntu to
Lubuntu? I almost see 5-10 every day. I'm ready to do a survey and see how
many actually moved to Lubuntu and will start that today, at least for my
own information.

I downloaded Fedora 16 LXDE today because I'm having Multi-Boot machine
with many LXDE Distributions to compare between them. It has Firefox by
default, not Chromium. This is FYI not FYA.

I suggest instead of spending some time discussing about that, why not do
some tests and send the report via mailing list?

As many already mentioned, it's apt-get install and mission accomplished.
IMHO, there are a lot to talk about rather than Firefox VS Chromium talk.

I'm out of this discussion and going to do two things and get back to you:

1- I'll do my test and send it via mailing list.
2- I'll write my suggestions regarding 12.04 on my thread and send it to
everyone.


I don't mean to be rude here at all, just stating my humble opinion and I
could be wrong but that's my point after all. Disagree but don't disrespect
is my motto :)

Cya


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote:

 Am 09.11.2011 15:55, schrieb A. Andjelkovic:
  Let's not think in terms of This is what I would prefer but rather
 This
  is what a user on a low spec machine would prefer.
 Isn't that the same ?
 I am running Chromium here on a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex A8 with 256 MB RAM.
 I guess that is a low machine.
 If you get to even lower hardware than both browsers feel slugish.

  Let's not start a war here... I don't want to be rude, but please keep
 such
  personal opinions out of this discussion.

 If you only choose software on the base of how much ram they use on
 ancient hardware then you will definitely fail in delivering a good user
 experience. Personal opinions matter a lot if they are supported by good
 arguments.
 And no I don't want to start a war here. I just want to discuss the
 advantages and disadvantages of both browsers.


  Google is dropping H264 support:
  http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in-chrome.html

 Google Chrome != Chromium

  Firefox might do that in the future also, but it costs memory to
  sandbox each browser tab. And I believe Chromium cheats: when
  available memory gets too low, tabs begin sharing the same process so
  it's a bit harder to know what's really going on.

 At least from the user perspective you have still the advantage that one
 tab cannot crash the whole browser.

  While I'm not a Google-hater, I think it's very important for the free
  web that Mozilla continues to exist. Since Mozilla is a bit more open
  than Chromium and multiple steps more open than Android, I think open
  source fans should consider supporting Firefox if the features are
  nearly equal, which in my opinion they are. This is why I hope Firefox
  continues to remain the Ubuntu default browser. Since Lubuntu has
  different constraints in choosing default apps, I'll let Julien and
  the Lubuntu devs make their own evaluation. Both browsers are fully
  supported in Ubuntu (Canonical is looking to hire someone who can help
  maintain Chromium).

 I really don't think that if Lubuntu would ship Chromium instead of
 Firefox it will hurt Mozilla soo much that they have to fear their
 existens.
 And to be clear here, if we would to have choose a non free vs. a free
 software then I would also argue its definitely better to promote the
 free software. But in our case we have to made a choice between two free
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-08 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
It's true that I have both Ubuntu 11.04 (which I'll get rid of soon) and
Lubuntu 11.04 installed but just to be extra clear, I'm just using Lubuntu
11.04 as I'm writing this. I have LXTask (installed by default) and I have
installed recently System Monitor too.
The figures are not the same.

If some of you think conky is not accurate then let's ignore it but still,
I'm having two different readings.

Anyway, lovinglinux, an add-on developer for Firefox and Ubuntu Forum
Moderator has suggested to use about:memory.

The test that I'm willing to do is on another PC (P4 with 256MB RAM) and it
has fresh new Lubuntu 11.10 installed.

Thanks!

P.S.
Jean-Pierre
I don't think Dual-Booting Ubuntu and Lubuntu has anything to do with that
extra 100MB IMHO. Each on different partition and each has its own files,
etc.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
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 2011/11/8 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com

 Guys,

 I was wondering if someone has noticed that LXTask actually shows +100MB
 usage more than System Monitor and Conky so what is going on?
 I have System Monitor installed on Lubutnu 11.04 (was testing something)
 and Conky as well. While each of System Monitor (GNOME APP) and Conky are
 showing the same memory usage, LXTask add *100MB* to that.
 Example: System Monitor + Conky shows 287MB while Firefox Loaded with two
 tabs. On the other hand, LXTask shows 387MB.

 Any idea?


 I have similar issue when lubuntu is installed alongside with ubuntu :/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help Needed

2011-11-08 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Thanks for your reply but the OP already managed to fix it:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872753

Thanks again :)

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:55 AM, ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm feeling lazy and don't want to make another forum account, even
 though, for lxde, I probably should. That being said, the solution is quite
 simple.

 For a login shell, ~/.profile is the go to file. This works where the
 login command is being used, i.e. this even works if you open lxterminal
 and then use said command to login within the shell, thereby creating a
 shell (that is using ~/.profile) within a shell (that is not using
 ~/.profile as it does not work for interactive shells). To put the
 questions to rest, this is also what is being employed by the display
 manager to log you in and ultimately start lxde.

 I believe the OP wanted to add ~/bin to his $PATH, which, actually,
 ~/.profile does by default, after first checking for the existence of
 ~/bin. Of course, it could be explicitly added with

 PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin

 but a more elegant solution is certainly the one contained within:

 # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
 if [ -d $HOME/bin ] ; then
 PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH
 fi

 To make clear what's happening here, if -d checks to see whether the given
 argument exists as a directory. That being said, the comment pretty clearly
 describes in words exactly what is happening.

 If you really want to first hand see the effectiveness of ~/.profile, try
 this:

 echo ace-minesweeper  ~/.profile

 then logout and log back in again. You'll apparently be stuck in purgatory
 between lxdm and lxde with nothing but ace-minesweeper. Finish your game
 and quit and you'll be whisked off to lxde. :D

 I'm going to go add this to the wiki now.

 wxl/walter


 On 11/07/2011 10:57 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:

 Please check the OP reply: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31421

  On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Woodhead 
 andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:


  On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

   A user has a problem and he posted on Ubuntu Forum but got no solution
 so he posted on LXDE Forum seeking for help:
 http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31421
 I don't know anything about what he's asking so hope someone could help
 him.




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-08 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA

 I don't know if this is correct, but I'm a little concerned for if the
 machines will support the test? We're talking about Pentium 3  4 and 256
 to 512 ram.


My machine is P4 @3GHz - 1M Cache. RAM is 512MB which can be dropped to
256MB.
One browser will be running at one time and reading will be written down.
Then the other browser will be running and same scenario applies.
Then, we compare between the readings.

With newer machines, users shouldn't notice any difference. With old
machine, I think it might be some differences. Only test will tell :)

I think my machine will be a good match for such test. It's a desktop. By
the way, the HDD is IDE so it's typical old :)

Ps: Ali, on my new machine i have ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop installed...
 readings of both monitors are different, that's what i was telling you :)


If you check ALL my posts on Ubuntu Forum, you'll find out that I always
keep telling the users that installing lubuntu-desktop is NOT like
installing Lubuntu itself from LiveCD or LiveUSB.

*I see that Walter agrees with me* :)

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
jpx...@gmail.comwrote:

 I don't know if this is correct, but I'm a little concerned for if the
 machines will support the test? We're talking about Pentium 3  4 and 256
 to 512 ram.

 Ps: Ali, on my new machine i have ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop installed...
 readings of both monitors are different, that's what i was telling you :)



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help Needed

2011-11-07 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Andrew,

Please check the OP reply: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31421

Thank you!

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Woodhead 
andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 A user has a problem and he posted on Ubuntu Forum but got no solution so
 he posted on LXDE Forum seeking for help:

 http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8t=31421

 I don't know anything about what he's asking so hope someone could help
 him.

 If you don't have an account on the forum, never mind, I can post your
 answer to him. I have already asked him to join the mailing list or login
 to IRC channel.

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 at the bottom of ~/.bashrc add:

 export PATH=$PATH:/mynew/bin

 Will add /mynew/bin to the PATH variable

 Save the new file after editting and run:

 source ~/.bashrc

 to apply the new changes to the current console.




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?

2011-11-07 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Guys,

I was wondering if someone has noticed that LXTask actually shows +100MB
usage more than System Monitor and Conky so what is going on?
I have System Monitor installed on Lubutnu 11.04 (was testing something)
and Conky as well. While each of System Monitor (GNOME APP) and Conky are
showing the same memory usage, LXTask add *100MB* to that.
Example: System Monitor + Conky shows 287MB while Firefox Loaded with two
tabs. On the other hand, LXTask shows 387MB.

Any idea?

Thanks!

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:21 AM, ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the idea of a script.. at least for most of it. The one bugaboo
 will be doing start up and shut down tests. Maybe we could use an
 appropriate signal? I'm not sure which one would be used to cleanly
 shutdown the program, but, for example, with SIGTERM we could do:

 kill -n 15 $(pidof firefox)
 kill -n 15 $(pidof chromium-browse)

 We need to know what systems these are being run on.

 Therefore:
 uname -srov
 lsb_release -a
 cat /proc/cpuinfo
 cat /proc/meminfo

 We need to use new/fresh profiles.

 So:
 firefox -CreateProfile foo  firefox -P foo space separated list of URLs
 to be opened in tabs
 chromium-browser --user-data-dir=foo space separated list of URLs to be
 opened in tabs

 One problem with this is that Chromium defaults to loading a choice of
 search engines.. so it's not technically started up.

 It IS important we use as many tabs as reasonable. There tends to be a bit
 of diversion in performance between browsers depending on the number of
 tabs opened.

 As for getting resource usage, I'm thinking that a good solution would be
 to use proc. Rather than try to follow a moving target (e.g. lxtask),
 something more static might be useful:
 cat /proc/$(pidof firefox)
 cat /proc/$(pidof chromium-browse)

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