Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
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On 2011-06-13 14:27, Julien Lavergne wrote:
 Le Monday 13 June 2011 à 19:17 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 - Please bump the soname of your library each time you change your API.
 Distributions can do smooth transitions between versions of
 libfm/pcmanfm. Also, if you expect other applications to use libfm, you
 need to use the soname.
 I want to do this for stable tarball releases only. In current stage
 of development, change of API/ABIs can be frequent.
 Ok, but technically, it's used as a stable application on, at least,
 Debian and Ubuntu (and probably many other distributions).
 
 So, what is missing for having a stable release of pcmanfm ? Any major
 features are still missing ?

As far as I see it the current git HEAD is not /released/. When that
happens a git tag will be produced and a tar ball distributed to sf.net
project pages. Until then pcman do not want to bump things as they might
change numerous times before the release is done. Using git HEAD as
source for a package in a distribution is not what pcman wants (and I
support this way).

 - Don't hesitate to do releases often, it's better for distributions :)
 Even if bugs are discovered shortly after the release, you can still do
 a quick X.X.1 release to fix this.

 Given the program is now used by so many users, it's better to have
 releases with better quality.

 But it's better than no release at all, especially for application still
 in development. Last official release is 2010-10-14 (according to
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmanfm/files/ ), more than six months
 ago.

I think the old saying release early, release often is key and
important. I do think we should aim for qualty too ofc but with frequent
updates it will be there and it will draw even more attention to the
product imho. I am with gilir on this one.
It also ties together with my notion of not using git HEAD to base
packages in distributions on, if there are frequent releases it is more
likely the distributions will use $LATEST_TAG rather than giot HEAD.
If needed be I am willing to set up a development model with branches
for this, this is what I do for a living anyhow (I don't think we do
need that though).

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Chris
Aloha oukou,

I've read all the other mails as well, but wanted to reply to this one. Is
there an easy way to update/translate sections? I might be able to help in
nl and on a side note; which language is the base as no language is 100%
translated?

With metta,

Chris Druif

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 19:51, Martin Bagge / brother brot...@bsnet.sewrote:

 On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, PCMan wrote:

 Please help test and update translations in various distros. If things
 are ok, I propose a new release.


 PO files at Pootle (and in git ofc) are updated; these are the stats:

 LC  DoneFuzzy   TodoRatio
 af  0   0   159 0,0%
 am  0   0   159 0,0%
 ar  30  3   126 18,9%
 be  144 6   9   90,6%
 bg  150 3   6   94,3%
 bn  144 6   9   90,6%
 bn_IN   0   0   159 0,0%
 bs  0   0   159 0,0%
 ca  137 13  9   86,2%
 cs  148 5   6   93,1%
 da  148 5   6   93,1%
 de  148 5   6   93,1%
 el  150 3   6   94,3%
 en_GB   150 3   6   94,3%
 es  150 3   6   94,3%
 es_VE   0   0   159 0,0%
 et  0   0   159 0,0%
 eu  0   0   159 0,0%
 fa  148 5   6   93,1%
 fi  149 3   7   93,7%
 fo  144 6   9   90,6%
 fr  150 3   6   94,3%
 gl  151 5   3   95,0%
 he  151 5   3   95,0%
 hr  122 2   35  76,7%
 hu  148 5   6   93,1%
 id  146 6   7   91,8%
 it  150 3   6   94,3%
 ja  148 5   6   93,1%
 jv  0   0   159 0,0%
 kk  0   0   159 0,0%
 km  47  5   107 29,6%
 ko  0   0   159 0,0%
 lg  150 3   6   94,3%
 li  0   0   159 0,0%
 lt  150 3   6   94,3%
 lv  146 5   8   91,8%
 ml  0   0   159 0,0%
 ms  0   0   159 0,0%
 nb  0   0   159 0,0%
 nl  150 3   6   94,3%
 nn  0   0   159 0,0%
 pa  141 5   13  88,7%
 pl  150 3   6   94,3%
 ps  0   0   159 0,0%
 pt  150 3   6   94,3%
 pt_BR   152 3   4   95,6%
 ro  0   0   159 0,0%
 ru  150 3   6   94,3%
 si  40  0   119 25,2%
 sk  145 8   6   91,2%
 sl  150 3   6   94,3%
 sr  148 5   6   93,1%
 sr@latin148 5   6   93,1%
 sv  151 5   3   95,0%
 te  150 3   6   94,3%
 th  0   0   159 0,0%
 tr  150 3   6   94,3%
 uk  150 3   6   94,3%
 ur  0   0   159 0,0%
 ur_PK   0   0   159 0,0%
 vi  150 3   6   94,3%
 zh_CN   150 3   6   94,3%
 zh_TW   137 5   17  86,2%



 you probably ant to check libfm also:
 LC  DoneFuzzy   TodoRatio
 af  0   0   184 0,0%
 am  0   0   184 0,0%
 ar  19  0   165 10,3%
 be  135 3   46  73,4%
 bg  179 1   4   97,3%
 bn  130 4   50  70,7%
 bn_IN   0   0   184 0,0%
 bs  0   0   184 0,0%
 ca  130 4   50  70,7%
 cs  179 1   4   97,3%
 da  179 1   4   97,3%
 de  163 17  4   88,6%
 el  179 1   4   97,3%
 en_GB   179 1   4   97,3%
 es  179 1   4   97,3%
 es_VE   0   129 55  0,0%
 et  0   0   184 0,0%
 eu  0   0   184 0,0%
 fa  179 1   4   97,3%
 fi  176 2   6   95,7%
 fo  178 1   5   96,7%
 fr  179 1   4   97,3%
 gl  181 0   3   98,4%
 he  179 1   4   97,3%
 hr  162 1   21  88,0%
 hu  179 1   4   97,3%
 id  135 3   46  73,4%
 it  179 1   4   97,3%
 ja  179 1   4   97,3%
 jv  0   0   184 0,0%
 kk  0   0   184 0,0%
 km  0   0   184 0,0%
 ko  0   0   184 0,0%
 lg  179 1   4   97,3%
 lt  179 2   3   97,3%
 ml  0   0   184 0,0%
 ms  0   0   184 0,0%
 nb  0   0   184 0,0%
 nl  179 1   4   97,3%
 nn  0   0   184 0,0%
 pa  0   0   184 0,0%
 pl  179 1   4   97,3%
 ps  0   0   184 0,0%
 pt  179 1   4   97,3%
 pt_BR   181 0   3   98,4%
 ro  0   0   184 0,0%
 ru  179 1   4   97,3%
 si  

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Martin Bagge / brother

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Chris wrote:


I've read all the other mails as well, but wanted to reply to this one. Is
there an easy way to update/translate sections? I might be able to help in
nl and on a side note; which language is the base as no language is 100%
translated?


English is the base language, if you know another language better you can 
use that as base but it is not really supported and you have to do stuff 
wourself. It's outside of using Pootle as tool at least.


Doing the updates and stuff is very easy, I use intltool-update and some 
helper scripts around git to do the things. Most are executed by cron and 
it pings me when I need to manually solve things. Merge conflicts and 
such.


nl got a new translator recently and he is very active (in cc) and you 
guys should take a chat offlist and stuff. Ping me if you need some 
assistance in any way.


Welcome!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-12 Thread Cilyan Olowen
Hello all,

After a crash of my disk, I'm no longer on ArchLinux, but there the
pcmanfm-git PKGBUILD from aur could not compile. Did you check that ?

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=BANLkTinj4%2BqhE5PtFBfer88zsxqAFdfz%2Bw%40mail.gmail.comforum_name=lxde-list

Regards,

2011/6/11 Sergio Cipolla secipo...@gmail.com:
 It's still showing the filesystem in the side-pane untranslated.
 libfm/src/udisks/g-udisks-volume.c, line 241.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-11 Thread Martin Bagge / brother

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, PCMan wrote:

Please help test and update translations in various distros. If things
are ok, I propose a new release.


PO files at Pootle (and in git ofc) are updated; these are the stats:

LC  DoneFuzzy   TodoRatio
af  0   0   159 0,0%
am  0   0   159 0,0%
ar  30  3   126 18,9%
be  144 6   9   90,6%
bg  150 3   6   94,3%
bn  144 6   9   90,6%
bn_IN   0   0   159 0,0%
bs  0   0   159 0,0%
ca  137 13  9   86,2%
cs  148 5   6   93,1%
da  148 5   6   93,1%
de  148 5   6   93,1%
el  150 3   6   94,3%
en_GB   150 3   6   94,3%
es  150 3   6   94,3%
es_VE   0   0   159 0,0%
et  0   0   159 0,0%
eu  0   0   159 0,0%
fa  148 5   6   93,1%
fi  149 3   7   93,7%
fo  144 6   9   90,6%
fr  150 3   6   94,3%
gl  151 5   3   95,0%
he  151 5   3   95,0%
hr  122 2   35  76,7%
hu  148 5   6   93,1%
id  146 6   7   91,8%
it  150 3   6   94,3%
ja  148 5   6   93,1%
jv  0   0   159 0,0%
kk  0   0   159 0,0%
km  47  5   107 29,6%
ko  0   0   159 0,0%
lg  150 3   6   94,3%
li  0   0   159 0,0%
lt  150 3   6   94,3%
lv  146 5   8   91,8%
ml  0   0   159 0,0%
ms  0   0   159 0,0%
nb  0   0   159 0,0%
nl  150 3   6   94,3%
nn  0   0   159 0,0%
pa  141 5   13  88,7%
pl  150 3   6   94,3%
ps  0   0   159 0,0%
pt  150 3   6   94,3%
pt_BR   152 3   4   95,6%
ro  0   0   159 0,0%
ru  150 3   6   94,3%
si  40  0   119 25,2%
sk  145 8   6   91,2%
sl  150 3   6   94,3%
sr  148 5   6   93,1%
sr@latin148 5   6   93,1%
sv  151 5   3   95,0%
te  150 3   6   94,3%
th  0   0   159 0,0%
tr  150 3   6   94,3%
uk  150 3   6   94,3%
ur  0   0   159 0,0%
ur_PK   0   0   159 0,0%
vi  150 3   6   94,3%
zh_CN   150 3   6   94,3%
zh_TW   137 5   17  86,2%



you probably ant to check libfm also:
LC  DoneFuzzy   TodoRatio
af  0   0   184 0,0%
am  0   0   184 0,0%
ar  19  0   165 10,3%
be  135 3   46  73,4%
bg  179 1   4   97,3%
bn  130 4   50  70,7%
bn_IN   0   0   184 0,0%
bs  0   0   184 0,0%
ca  130 4   50  70,7%
cs  179 1   4   97,3%
da  179 1   4   97,3%
de  163 17  4   88,6%
el  179 1   4   97,3%
en_GB   179 1   4   97,3%
es  179 1   4   97,3%
es_VE   0   129 55  0,0%
et  0   0   184 0,0%
eu  0   0   184 0,0%
fa  179 1   4   97,3%
fi  176 2   6   95,7%
fo  178 1   5   96,7%
fr  179 1   4   97,3%
gl  181 0   3   98,4%
he  179 1   4   97,3%
hr  162 1   21  88,0%
hu  179 1   4   97,3%
id  135 3   46  73,4%
it  179 1   4   97,3%
ja  179 1   4   97,3%
jv  0   0   184 0,0%
kk  0   0   184 0,0%
km  0   0   184 0,0%
ko  0   0   184 0,0%
lg  179 1   4   97,3%
lt  179 2   3   97,3%
ml  0   0   184 0,0%
ms  0   0   184 0,0%
nb  0   0   184 0,0%
nl  179 1   4   97,3%
nn  0   0   184 0,0%
pa  0   0   184 0,0%
pl  179 1   4   97,3%
ps  0   0   184 0,0%
pt  179 1   4   97,3%
pt_BR   181 0   3   98,4%
ro  0   0   184 0,0%
ru  179 1   4   97,3%
si  0   0   184 0,0%
sk  151 28  5   82,1%
sl  179 1   4   97,3%
sr  155 25  4   84,2%
sr@latin155 25  4   84,2%
sv  179 1   4   97,3%
te  179 1   4   97,3%
th  0   0   184 0,0%
tr  179 1   4   97,3%
uk  179 1   4   97,3%
ur  0   0   184 0,0%
ur_PK   0   0   184 0,0%
vi  179 1

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-11 Thread Martin Bagge / brother

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On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, PCMan wrote:


Hi all,
I'm here to call for a review for PCManFM as the source code in git is
in quite good shape now.
Many known bugs are fixed and I did much refactor to the tabbed
browsing part and merge changes in tab-rework3 branch with master.
Please help test and update translations in various distros. If things
are ok, I propose a new release.


First impressions is that it works fine.
I've built and installed it at Debian Testing.

Three strings in libfm:sc/gtk/fm-side-pane.c was not translatable 
rendering the menu thingie for the side pane (click places and you 
should be able to select directory tree (or places if you already had the 
tree showing))

line 49-51
{Places, NULL, N_(Places), NULL, NULL, FM_SP_PLACES},
{DirTree, NULL, N_(Directory Tree), NULL, NULL, FM_SP_DIR_TREE},
{Remote, NULL, N_(Remote), NULL, NULL, FM_SP_REMOTE},

I did translate these strings somewhere but they were not used in this 
particular menu, the view menu works as intended. As well as the labeling.


Screenie:
http://lxde.bsnet.se/~brother/2011-06-libfm_places_menu.png

Also!
It would be a good thing if some native speaker could check the 
strings for both libfm and pcmanfm. I am not a native speaker and I 
haven't read all the strings for a very long time but they probably can be 
improved given that pcman isn't a native speaker either. If you know of 
anyone being able to do this let them/me know.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-11 Thread Sergio Cipolla
Thank you, pcman.

I'll comment on the interface things as it seems everything is working (I
don't have remote filesystems to test that).

The drop-down in the side-pane doesn't show translated, as Martin said.

Regarding the new sign for pcmanfm as root, first I agree it should be
changed because setting the tooltip colour to the address bar sometimes
would leave the text and the background with the same colour. For me that
old warning icon in the address bar was fine.
The new icon, depending on the icon theme, can be almost unoticeable. It
should be the dialog-warning icon.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-i18n] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-11 Thread Sergio Cipolla
It's still showing the filesystem in the side-pane untranslated.
libfm/src/udisks/g-udisks-volume.c, line 241.
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