Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-14 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le Tuesday 14 June 2011 à 01:10 +0200, Martin Bagge / brother a écrit :
 According to a mail from pcman I do have access to upload files at
 SF.net 
 since May or something.
 Haven't checked the things yet though. 
Good news :)
At least, I can help on testing stuff, if you need.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Sergio Cipolla
I'm not a developer and I can't talk about the distribution side of it, but
I'm with pcman in the sense that he has been improving and fixing bugs in
pcmanfm in a very sensible way, so after accompanying the development
process for some time I trust his priorities.

Also Ubuntu isn't a parameter for launching nothing (except its own
applications).
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Sérgio Cipolla
Martin, you're the git specialist. But regarding releasing LXDE
components, maybe some could have a new release.
LXTask had a memory leak fixed and was about to be released then nobody
talked about it anymore.
Most components have much improved translations since they were last
released and these could have a minor point release.

Now an observation. In a constructive manner.
I see that Julien Lavergne is mostly the only one that has been working
on the apps but ideally, in a non technical opinion as I'm not a
programmer, I think that the master branch in git should be reserved for
bug fixes and pre-tested improvements.
Untested code (like these recent gtk3 compatibility commits that have
broken, for instance, lxpanel and lxterminal in a very basic way or
gpicview that has something that looks like a typo and makes it not even
compile) would be commited to another branch and then the commiter could
ask for testing in the mailing list.

The benefits for the workflow and for multiple contributions is evident.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le Monday 13 June 2011 à 19:24 -0300, Sérgio Cipolla a écrit :
 Now an observation. In a constructive manner.
 I see that Julien Lavergne is mostly the only one that has been
 working
 on the apps but ideally, in a non technical opinion as I'm not a
 programmer, I think that the master branch in git should be reserved
 for
 bug fixes and pre-tested improvements.
 Untested code (like these recent gtk3 compatibility commits that have
 broken, for instance, lxpanel and lxterminal in a very basic way or
 gpicview that has something that looks like a typo and makes it not
 even
 compile) would be commited to another branch and then the commiter
 could
 ask for testing in the mailing list. 
I done this in the past, but I didn't have any feedback about my
changes. 

git HEAD should not be used for daily usage. But it's used because there
is not enough releases of many components.

Martin and I could probably help in the process, but we don't have
access for uploading tarballs on sourceforce. That's also why lxtask was
not officially release weeks ago.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Martin Bagge / brother

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Sérgio Cipolla wrote:


Martin, you're the git specialist. But regarding releasing LXDE
components, maybe some could have a new release.


I guess they need that indeed. Haven't checked though.


LXTask had a memory leak fixed and was about to be released then nobody
talked about it anymore.


That's on my todo for the week, I posted[1] that I was swamped by other 
things. Did the git tag but lacked all the other parts to be able to 
release. The sitution has cleared up now and only remaining thing is to 
produce the tar file and upload it to SF.net. I guess it should be blogged 
and stuff but noone has written any release notes so I have to do that 
too, reading git log to find out what was done.



Most components have much improved translations since they were last
released and these could have a minor point release.


I am not opposing a translation only release, planning for such a thing 
might even bring attention to other things that need to get there. I am 
not skilled enough to make these decisions - just tell me that we should 
go to release and I handle the process.



Now an observation. In a constructive manner.
I see that Julien Lavergne is mostly the only one that has been working
on the apps but ideally, in a non technical opinion as I'm not a
programmer, I think that the master branch in git should be reserved for
bug fixes and pre-tested improvements.
Untested code (like these recent gtk3 compatibility commits that have
broken, for instance, lxpanel and lxterminal in a very basic way or
gpicview that has something that looks like a typo and makes it not even
compile) would be commited to another branch and then the commiter could
ask for testing in the mailing list.

The benefits for the workflow and for multiple contributions is evident.


Yes please, more testing and more contributions. I applaud.

I could make the buildbot produce the release tar files on successful 
builds if that would benefit people. I probably have to find how to make 
it build on updated git repos then. As it stands now I do the builds when 
I have time to watch them/as often as I get a build needed message from 
the Pootle server - a check is done every two hours during my working 
hours (7-24 CEST).


Ideas and thoughts about the process to make things more lean is 
appreciated. I am not a developer skilled enough to hack on the actual 
source code but I am more than willing to dig in and do processes and 
workflows and stuff like that. If I can do things in script it is even 
better.


[1] It's not available from the LXDE-list archives as that mailing 
list seem to have dropped of the Internet somehow mid May.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Pcmanfm-develop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.

2011-06-13 Thread Martin Bagge / brother

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Julien Lavergne wrote:


Martin and I could probably help in the process, but we don't have
access for uploading tarballs on sourceforce. That's also why lxtask was
not officially release weeks ago.


According to a mail from pcman I do have access to upload files at SF.net 
since May or something.

Haven't checked the things yet though.

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