Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/28/2011 06:01 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 To make this little wish list come true, needs a the most precious
 resource of all dev time. Hence my asking the boss if they had
 time. It really looks good, can we spare a dev to babysit it?


Probably; if the upstream obkey author agrees to port to GTK3, and
someone agrees to write a usable man page for it, then I'll attempt
packaging it.  If Julien likes my packaging, then (assuming no
copyright/licencing issues emerge) he can get it into Ubuntu for us :)

How's that for (proposed) teamwork?

Jonathan

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-29 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 12/28/2011 02:26 PM, David Reimer a écrit :
 There is a small, fast, simple keybinding utility for Lubuntu available:

 http://code.google.com/p/obkey/

 I wonder what the thinking might be on whether it (or something like
 it) should get bundled into a Lubuntu base install?
Yes, it's a good idea to include such software. However, before spending
time to package / test / fix it, I would like to know if there are other
applications like this available, and try to pick the best one.

Currently, not having GTK3 support is not a blocker, but we need to have
it in mind when choosing the application. For example, having support
for openbox 3.5.0 is IMO much more important.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread David Reimer
There is a small, fast, simple keybinding utility for Lubuntu available:

http://code.google.com/p/obkey/

I wonder what the thinking might be on whether it (or something like
it) should get bundled into a Lubuntu base install?

With Lubuntu's new and growing popularity (I'm among the recent,
grateful converts), it seems reasonable to think of small enhancements
that will make the migration a little easier. There has been a fair
bit of call in the Ubuntu forums for some simple GUI means of editing
the applications menu, for example.

Making assignments to keys is another one of those tasks that is
easily done in other OS's, but non-trivial in Lubuntu. With obkey,
there is already a solution to hand. It needs some documentation, but
that is more easily done than the coding!

Any reactions/responses welcome (even if to tell this new but
enthusiastic use that there is a better place to raise this sort of
question).

Best wishes from a very wet and windy Scotland,

David [djreimer | dajare]
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread A. Andjelkovic
Interesting find, doesn't look very user friendly though (I've only
watched the screencast, looked weird to me).

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:26 PM, David Reimer djrei...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is a small, fast, simple keybinding utility for Lubuntu available:

 http://code.google.com/p/obkey/

 I wonder what the thinking might be on whether it (or something like
 it) should get bundled into a Lubuntu base install?

 With Lubuntu's new and growing popularity (I'm among the recent,
 grateful converts), it seems reasonable to think of small enhancements
 that will make the migration a little easier. There has been a fair
 bit of call in the Ubuntu forums for some simple GUI means of editing
 the applications menu, for example.

 Making assignments to keys is another one of those tasks that is
 easily done in other OS's, but non-trivial in Lubuntu. With obkey,
 there is already a solution to hand. It needs some documentation, but
 that is more easily done than the coding!

 Any reactions/responses welcome (even if to tell this new but
 enthusiastic use that there is a better place to raise this sort of
 question).

 Best wishes from a very wet and windy Scotland,

 David [djreimer | dajare]
 --
 David Reimer | Edinburgh, UK
 http://wiki.ubuntu.com/djreimer | https://launchpad.net/~djreimer

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset

El 28/12/11 15:43, A. Andjelkovic escribió:

Interesting find, doesn't look very user friendly though (I've only
watched the screencast, looked weird to me).

That vs nothing i prefer that :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread Tim Bernhard
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 El 28/12/11 15:43, A. Andjelkovic escribió:

  Interesting find, doesn't look very user friendly though (I've only
 watched the screencast, looked weird to me).

 That vs nothing i prefer that :)

 --
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+1  Maybe create a launcher to make it more user friendly.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Boss,

what are the chances of getting this into the repos? Do you have time to
chat with the author to get it through testing? I'll help if you tell me
what I need to do.

Thanks,

Phill.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset 
 jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 El 28/12/11 15:43, A. Andjelkovic escribió:

  Interesting find, doesn't look very user friendly though (I've only
 watched the screencast, looked weird to me).

 That vs nothing i prefer that :)

 --
 jpxsat


 +1  Maybe create a launcher to make it more user friendly.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread David Reimer
On 28 December 2011 14:38, Martin Olesen skovproduk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wasn't it better to use the same application for keybindings as in
 Ubuntu rather than including something new? Everybody benefits from as
 much recycling as possible.

My understanding was that the Ubuntu keybinder wouldn't work on
Lubuntu (ibus vs. openbox??), which is why this coder developed obkey.
Could be quite wrong there, though, so open to correction!

 Also, 'Development is halted' looks scary to me.

I *think* that's because it's stable and does what it's supposed to
do, not because it is almost-there-but-abandoned. I've used it myself
and it's pretty simple and solid -- though it could certainly use some
documentation.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, at 09:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 what are the chances of getting this into the repos?

It needs packaging first, before that is possible :)

Obkey seems to use pyGTK 2.x, so I think we'd have a GTK2 vs GTK3 issue,
unless the author is willing to update it to use PyGObject and GTK3?

Other than that, it just needs packaging and documentation, as far as
I can see.  If it were really truly just a matter of packaging, I'd make
an attempt; but I'm not about to volunteer for the related
documentation-
writing and porting-to-PyGObject work.

Jonathan
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

2011-12-28 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Jonathan,

well at least it was not an out right NO!

To make this little wish list come true, needs a the most precious resource
of all dev time. Hence my asking the boss if they had time. It really
looks good, can we spare a dev to babysit it?

Regards,

Phill

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote:

 On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, at 09:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

  what are the chances of getting this into the repos?

 It needs packaging first, before that is possible :)

 Obkey seems to use pyGTK 2.x, so I think we'd have a GTK2 vs GTK3 issue,
 unless the author is willing to update it to use PyGObject and GTK3?

 Other than that, it just needs packaging and documentation, as far as
 I can see.  If it were really truly just a matter of packaging, I'd make
 an attempt; but I'm not about to volunteer for the related
 documentation-
 writing and porting-to-PyGObject work.

 Jonathan
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