Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last changes to applications installed by default

2010-02-14 Thread Lee Briggs
I know you're saying gnome-mplayer is finalised, but for future reference it
might be worth looking at parole from the xfce goodies package. Its actually
lighter than gnome-mplayer and has a brilliant UI

http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/parole
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last changes to applications installed by default

2010-02-14 Thread Leszek Lesner
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:42:43 +
Lee Briggs l...@leebriggs.co.uk wrote:

 I know you're saying gnome-mplayer is finalised, but for future reference it
 might be worth looking at parole from the xfce goodies package. Its actually
 lighter than gnome-mplayer and has a brilliant UI
 
 http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/parole

How can it be lighter when its based on gstreamer ? 
It is basically a clone of totem for xfce. 

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Last changes to applications installed by default

2010-02-13 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

First, I would like to thanks all people for their feedbacks.
Also, I know people will be disagree about some choices, but we can't
make all people agreed :) Remember that the goal is to provide a
distribution ready to use, especially designed for low ressource
hardware. 
This list can evolve before the final release, but I would like to not
change it too much, so we can focus on bug fix and integration.
So, this is the last changes proposal :

=== chromium for the browser ===
Well, it's not because Chromium is the best, it's more because the
others options is not really suitable, for different reasons :
- Firefox have serious performance problem on limited hardware.
- Midori have limited features, limited upstream ressources (compare to
others), with not significant ressources gain.

=== gnome-mplayer for videos ===
There is no reason to keep smplayer which bring extra depends on QT,
when gnome-mplayer have the same functionalities.

=== network-manager instead of wicd ===
This was not planned at the first time, but there are the reasons : new
version of wicd (1.7.0) use 2 instances, and this double the among of
memory it used. Also, there is some reports that wireless is not
supported in some cases.
Network-manager is not perfect, but the support is quite good, and we
can share the maintenance with other teams. Also, memory usage is not
that bad, but it's definitely better than wicd.

=== Using pcmanfm2 instead of old pcmanfm ===
Lubuntu Lucid will be the first real release for Lubuntu. It's not the
end, but I hope the beginning for it. It makes more sense to use
directly the futur pcmanfm, than working on the old one which will be
deprecated very soon.

For others part, no change. It's mean, keeping Aqualung for music player
and Sylpheed for e-mail. There was arguments for and against Sylpheed,
some preferred Claw-Mails. But there is no big arguments for a switch,
as the memory and CPU usage are the same, and main functionalities are
in both clients.

I'll made the changes to the Lubuntu packages and release a testing ISO
tomorrow or Monday. We will have a complete week to test it, until the
IRC meeting next Sunday, and do adjustments if it's needed.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last changes to applications installed by default

2010-02-13 Thread Dallas Wiebelhaus
Fantastic! Thank you.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,

 First, I would like to thanks all people for their feedbacks.
 Also, I know people will be disagree about some choices, but we can't
 make all people agreed :) Remember that the goal is to provide a
 distribution ready to use, especially designed for low ressource
 hardware.
 This list can evolve before the final release, but I would like to not
 change it too much, so we can focus on bug fix and integration.
 So, this is the last changes proposal :

 === chromium for the browser ===
 Well, it's not because Chromium is the best, it's more because the
 others options is not really suitable, for different reasons :
 - Firefox have serious performance problem on limited hardware.
 - Midori have limited features, limited upstream ressources (compare to
 others), with not significant ressources gain.

 === gnome-mplayer for videos ===
 There is no reason to keep smplayer which bring extra depends on QT,
 when gnome-mplayer have the same functionalities.

 === network-manager instead of wicd ===
 This was not planned at the first time, but there are the reasons : new
 version of wicd (1.7.0) use 2 instances, and this double the among of
 memory it used. Also, there is some reports that wireless is not
 supported in some cases.
 Network-manager is not perfect, but the support is quite good, and we
 can share the maintenance with other teams. Also, memory usage is not
 that bad, but it's definitely better than wicd.

 === Using pcmanfm2 instead of old pcmanfm ===
 Lubuntu Lucid will be the first real release for Lubuntu. It's not the
 end, but I hope the beginning for it. It makes more sense to use
 directly the futur pcmanfm, than working on the old one which will be
 deprecated very soon.

 For others part, no change. It's mean, keeping Aqualung for music player
 and Sylpheed for e-mail. There was arguments for and against Sylpheed,
 some preferred Claw-Mails. But there is no big arguments for a switch,
 as the memory and CPU usage are the same, and main functionalities are
 in both clients.

 I'll made the changes to the Lubuntu packages and release a testing ISO
 tomorrow or Monday. We will have a complete week to test it, until the
 IRC meeting next Sunday, and do adjustments if it's needed.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne



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